What are the criteria for Russia's victory or defeat in the war with the collective West


The idea of ​​writing this publication has been hatched for a very long time, but the author of the lines was forced to its speedy appearance by numerous comments of our esteemed readers on article about the need to "neutralize" Germany. This is an integral part of one big painful and extremely complex topic devoted to how Russia will emerge from the Third World War, if not a winner, then at least not a loser.


Undeclared World War III


Yes, World War III has indeed already begun. However, contrary to popular belief, it will take place not in the form of an exchange of strikes by intercontinental ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads, but as a series of regional and local conflicts, setting fire to entire regions and pushing many countries against each other. Its goal is not to turn the whole world into radioactive ashes, but to bring down the world the economy, while crushing all the competitors of the United States and Great Britain, and then start a new cycle of recovery and economic growth, enriching even more customers of the war. Capitalism as it is.

If nothing fundamentally changes in the world order, and the Anglo-Saxons do not receive a harsh “answer”, when capitalism reaches the next systemic crisis, there will be the fourth and fifth world wars, and so on. In fact, this war began a long time ago - in Libya, Syria and other hot spots, but it acquired the status of a world war after Russia openly entered into it, starting a special military operation in Ukraine, and now the Americans have also deliberately pushed into her China, stirring up the situation around Taiwan.

The war is going on, and our opponents have clearly outlined its goal - to achieve a military defeat of Russia in Ukraine, followed by internal unrest, and then the collapse of the country into several fragments of the “Yugoslavian scenario” that are endlessly hostile to each other. That is why the comments of some of our readers, who complain that Gazprom may lose some amount of income from a decrease in exports to Germany, are bewildering.

Friends, wake up already! Germany, as part of the NATO bloc, is now indirectly fighting against Russia in Ukraine with the ultimate goal of its collapse. This, as they say, is a medical fact. The enemy must either be defeated or withdrawn from the war, making further participation in it unacceptable.

Criteria for victory or defeat


So, I would like to hope that all the dots over I are placed and we will no longer have to return to this issue. Now we need to talk about how exactly Russia should build its strategy so that if not defeat the collective West with all its combined financial and industrial power, then at least not lose to it with a devastating score. To do this, you need to decide on the criteria for victory or defeat.

At this stage of the hot stage of the Third World War, Russia is participating in a special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine. A huge problem seems to be a certain “blurring” of its ultimate goals, which we discuss in detail reasoned previously. One can endlessly discuss where, at the end of the NWO, the line of demarcation with the NATO bloc will pass - in the Donbass, along the Dnieper, along the Zbruch, or even along the border with Poland, Hungary, Romania and Moldova. The problem is that it won't end there.

Even if Russian troops with allies from the LDNR reach the Polish border, the Anglo-Saxons will then set fire to the situation in Transnistria, forcing Moscow to intervene in the situation in Moldova, where NATO member Romania has a direct and undisguised interest. We'll have to get in there too, but then the Baltics will blaze, followed by the conflict between Serbia and Kosovo, between Armenia and Azerbaijan (already), Northern Kazakhstan, and so on. In other words, Washington and London will set fires step by step on the ruins of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, turning everything around into blood-drenched ruins.

The foregoing allows us to conclude that it will be possible to speak about victory or non-defeat in the Third World War only if the “USSR-2” is restored, say, in the form of the Union State, and the NATO bloc is thrown far to the west. And here we return to Putin's so-called ultimatum, with the announcement of which, in fact, the real preparation of the Kremlin for a special operation in Ukraine began.

Recall that in 1997 Russia and NATO signed the Founding Act, where they confirmed that they did not consider each other as military opponents. At the same time, there were some verbal promises from Western partners not to expand further to the east, to the Russian borders. However, in 1999 Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic joined the North Atlantic Alliance. In 2004 Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia and Estonia joined it. Albania and Croatia joined NATO in 2009, Montenegro joined NATO in 2017, and North Macedonia joined in 2020. The last straw in Moscow's patience was the prospect of Ukraine and Georgia joining the anti-Russian military bloc. The expansion of the North Atlantic Alliance at the expense of Finland and Sweden can also be considered a major geopolitical defeat of the foreign policy Kremlin.

In other words, we now have quite clear and unambiguous criteria for Russia's victory or defeat in World War III. If we can create not a virtual, but a real Union State of Russia, Belarus and the entire liberated Ukraine, and then expand it to the entire post-Soviet space, making "USSR 2.0" a new world center of power and pushing back the borders of the NATO bloc as of 1997, this will will be a definite victory. All other options will be a defeat of greater or lesser severity, as the burden of economic problems will only increase and the flames of war will be regularly stoked by adversaries along the Russian borders.

How exactly this goal can be achieved, we will talk separately.
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  1. Ladislav Sedlak Offline Ladislav Sedlak
    Ladislav Sedlak (Ladislav Sedlak) 5 August 2022 12: 51
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    This is a good time when you can move part of the bloody war to the south of the United States or to the border with Mexico. I believe that Putin and his guys figured everything out. am
  2. sat2004 Offline sat2004
    sat2004 5 August 2022 12: 56
    -4
    World War III has not started yet. To start it, it is necessary to have military superiority in space, at sea, in the air, and to have at least equal weapons on the ground. As you can see, no one owns these conditions. When these conditions are met, then there will be a high probability of starting a war because of an accidentally spoken word.
    The criterion for victory is NATO within the borders of 1980 or the dissolution of the bloc.
    1. Starik59 Offline Starik59
      Starik59 (Starik) 5 August 2022 18: 03
      -1
      We didn't start it! turn on your brains!!
      1. sat2004 Offline sat2004
        sat2004 5 August 2022 22: 46
        +1
        Turned on the brain. They are chasing Ukrainians on the box, go to the army. They fire at civilians, is it the army or the bandits who were given weapons?
        NATO will never send its troops to confront the Russian military, who hit hard and all the time on the head. Here, shelling civilians with the help of mercenaries, fascists, yes, it’s in their blood. We have nothing to do with the principle, it's all of them, so what if they have our weapons. Remember how in Syria, when the Turks shot down our plane. The Turks were called to order, forced to take action, but NATO contemplated everything and was silent. What is wrong here, please explain?
    2. monarchist Offline monarchist
      monarchist (Foma) 6 August 2022 23: 15
      0
      wy izliszne umerenny mne ne hwatajet znameni pobedy nawezy eiffla kontribucjii i reparacji i wozwrata wsego
      zworowanego Rosji ijej grazdanom w razmere 200%
  3. Pavel Mokshanov_2 (Pavel Mokshanov) 5 August 2022 12: 57
    +8
    For an effective confrontation with the Anglo-Saxons and their satellites, it is undoubtedly necessary to unite not only with Belarus and the territories of Ukraine, but also to pursue a tight unifying policy with friendly countries through the SCO, BRICS, etc. What is actually trying to do the Kremlin. In addition, we need a new paradigm in the power management of the economy, and not gray import substitution schemes that bureaucrats are trying to introduce. This requires new people on the ground, with new thinking and responsibility. Why did the USSR hold out for a long time under the strong external influence of the West? There were no economic crises, the economy was closed to domestic consumption, only raw materials were traded, specialists had the appropriate engineering and scientific qualifications, and not effective managers as they are now. Treachery and sabotage, especially in wartime, were punished severely. And the fact that the elders from the CPSU screwed up the internal decay of society, without creating conditions for the production of consumer goods for citizens and all sorts of bans on freedom of speech, then came back to haunt the arrival of satanic capitalism with an oligarchic muzzle in the country.
  4. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 5 August 2022 13: 03
    +4
    It makes no sense to wait for a "breakfast" from a respected Author: decades of rule of the Putin-Medvedev duumvirate have shown the inability of the Russian authorities to turn the country into an economic leader - a center of attraction for neighbors!
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 August 2022 17: 44
      +1
      The point, of course, is not in themselves, but in those who are behind them. They would have found a third one, but even so it still rolled
      1. aslanxnumx Online aslanxnumx
        aslanxnumx (Aslan) 5 August 2022 21: 27
        -1
        And that they simply lead without knowing what, and from behind they do what they want
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 August 2022 21: 47
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          Yes Aslan. Therefore, simply changing this screen is not enough. It is necessary to put under the control of the people those who are hiding behind it, and this is the Central Bank, the bureaucracy, big capital. We need people's power. Something that has long been done and is working in China. He, by the way, will help us to do this, finding in our face a real ally.
        2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 August 2022 22: 46
          +1
          At one time I thought about how to do it.
          The result resulted in a kind of "method", which, with the necessary calculations and explanations, is set out here: &
          Unfortunately, this technique was written by me as an instruction for the existing government. Naturally - in this case, everything would be much simpler. Now I no longer count on our government, but the tools, I think, are the same.
          The main thing will be to achieve the consent of all the forces of the country in the face of its inevitable death in the way out of our situation.
  5. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 5 August 2022 13: 31
    +7
    I do not think that Russia is ready today for the Third World War. The reason is simple, naive and I am sure that the sincere faith of the GDP and its entourage in Europe "from Lisbon to Vladivostok." The epiphany has finally come, but at least 10 years have been lost
  6. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 August 2022 13: 58
    +3
    In fact, apparently it is worth dividing the war of the West against the Soviet Union (Russia) and the Third World War. The first could have ended in victory for the West after Yeltsin's coup inspired by him and the collapse of the Soviet Union, but the West did not stop there and continued this campaign against Russia.
    Accordingly, now we are in the conditions of the continuation of that war with its smooth development (according to the plan of the Hegemon) into a large European one. Secondary beneficiaries, if desired, can turn it into a global one. Hegemon doesn't mind.
    In the same war, even the USSR, in its best years, could not be considered the winning side. It was an approximate parity of opportunities with the West.
    Accordingly, now Russia is in a position of the body subordinate to the Hegemon, that is, on its knees, with a minimum of its ability to change this. The instrument of this subordination is the dependence of the authorities on the Hegemon and the incapacity of the political and economic systems of the country. Such is the deplorable (no other way to say) result of the work of the authorities for 20 years after Yeltsin.
    Accordingly, the real task of Russia now is not Victory in the Third World War, but a way out in its conditions (if it fails to force the Hegemon to rewind everything) to parity of opportunities with the Hegemon. And this is when he has already given her the role of a blind expendable weapon against the independence of Europe. Russia (wittingly or unwittingly) has already stepped into this role by conducting NWO in Ukraine, and exposing itself to a clash with NATO - when it suits the Hegemon.
    Such a statement of the problem reflects its real complexity for us, the criteria for its solution, and stringent requirements for tools suitable for this
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 August 2022 15: 02
      +6
      I am sure that for us and our Motherland (our history also speaks of this) the problem of death is not worth it. Simply, we and the country need to decide in time to use some tools to urgently and radically correct the situation.
      For example, I recall the Time of Troubles and the Zemsky Sobor of 1613, which elected (by the whole country) a new capable government. Probably it's time for us too
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 6 August 2022 09: 41
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        Of course, a simple change of "screen" from the top leadership will not give us anything. It is necessary to put under the control of the people of Russia those who stand behind it and really govern the country: the Central Bank, controlled by the States, big capital and the army of bureaucracy. We need a popular mass party ruling and governing the country, created instead of a formal multi-party system
  7. InanRom Offline InanRom
    InanRom (Ivan) 5 August 2022 14: 09
    +9
    What kind of victory can there be when there are outright wreckers and traitors-admirers of the West in high positions and offices inside the country?:

    For example:

    The “Strategy for the Development of the Metallurgical Industry until 2030” developed by officials of the Ministry of Industry and Trade is an openly wrecking document, the purpose of which is the destruction of Russian industry. Copper and aluminum are proposed to be exported from the country - they say, they are not needed in the Russian Federation - and their production is designated as "excessive". At the same time, the prices for wiring and aluminum structures in Russia are simply going through the roof.

    Another "pearl" born by the liberal bureaucracy - "Strategy for the development of the metallurgical industry until 2030" - became public. The document is not only remarkable, it is terrible. It says in black and white that, for example, non-ferrous metallurgy in Russia, in fact, is not needed - production capacities are redundant. This applies to aluminum, copper, zinc and other metals. Over the three decades of capitalist stagnation, the oligarchs have not built anything; plants that were put into operation back in the Soviet Union are being operated. By the way, all factories for the production of electric motors have been destroyed, they are no longer produced in principle. Transformers are not made where this metal is also needed, even wires - and very few of them are produced. The market is filled with Chinese products, domestic crumbs, and the quality is very lame. This is a consequence of the abolition of GOSTs, now everyone does what they want. Plus the wild high cost of raw materials. For example, aluminum, Oleg Deripaska's concern, sells them all over the world for billions of dollars. Which, as you might guess, do not return to Russia. At the same time, the winged metal has simply become unavailable for the population of the Russian Federation, any piece of it is sold almost worth its weight in gold, above world prices. It is difficult to call it anything other than sabotage.

    At first glance, the situation is absurd. On the second, too, the Ministry of Finance declares that it will not give money for science, industry, infrastructure development (road construction), and even for defense. Although in any crisis, it was precisely such actions of the state that saved countries. For example, the United States during the Great Depression.
    But, if we analyze the situation in the Russian Federation, then everything falls into place. The officials have no desire to save the country - on the contrary, everything is being done for its death. Various strategies, including this one, are a clear confirmation of this. We were told today that Russia does not need metalworking. We'll take everything out. That is, there will be nothing, including shells and cartridges. Somehow this smells really bad.

    ps.

    Former Deputy Minister of Education Marina Rakova pleaded guilty to embezzlement and asked to be released from the pre-trial detention center under house arrest. This was reported by her lawyers. “She admits her guilt in the crime, testifies in the case. Thanks to her testimony, more and more new defendants appear, ”stressed Rakova’s lawyer, the Izvestia newspaper writes.
    According to the lawyer, the defendant also stated that she wants to pay damages.
    Recall that on June 2, the Tverskoy Court of Moscow extended until August 6 the arrest of Rakova in the case of fraud on an especially large scale. Rakova is a defendant in a criminal case on embezzlement of funds from the Federal State Autonomous Institution “Fund for New Forms of Education Development”. We are talking about more than 50 million rubles. Rakova was detained in October last year.

    Ordinary people are imprisoned for stealing bread in a store, and the deputy head wants to be under "house arrest" (like a certain passion of Serdyukov-Vasilyev) and compensate for the damage -50 rubles?!!! Here is a portrait of the Russian bureaucracy ....
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 August 2022 14: 42
      +3
      I think that the subordination of the country to the West continues. After Yeltsin, it did not stop. Only now the Hegemon is going to use us and our Motherland as the main participant and expendable weapon in the war with Europe
    2. Valera75 Online Valera75
      Valera75 (Valery) 5 August 2022 16: 04
      +8
      When I listened to the St. Petersburg Forum and it was funny for me to listen to top officials, who in fact have a great responsibility for the country, as they said they say the West imposed sanctions and limited us, but we will find everything that we need in the east, turning around from the west. That is we will no longer become dependent on the West, but on the East. But they did not say anything that after the sanctions of the West we will create what we need in Russia. With such officials, we will only come to the collapse of the country and not to its prosperity and import substitution.
      1. Starik59 Offline Starik59
        Starik59 (Starik) 5 August 2022 18: 07
        -3
        Well done! spoke to the whole world on an Internet! Go work at the factory, and not sit in the guard del! MACHINE...
        1. sat2004 Offline sat2004
          sat2004 6 August 2022 12: 10
          +1
          Can you tell me the factory address?
        2. Valera75 Online Valera75
          Valera75 (Valery) 8 August 2022 19: 02
          0
          And where do you work? When you have nothing to say, it is better to keep silent, you will look smarter.
        3. monarchist Offline monarchist
          monarchist (Foma) 8 August 2022 19: 36
          0
          w proizwodstwe oryzja ne tolko stanoczniki kostruktory glawnyje =Kalasznikow i Grabin mozgom
          rabotali eto neponjatno tolko durakom
      2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 11: 09
        -1
        Valera, you need to live at least 500 years to the highest officials in order to understand not your own problems, but the whole state.
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 12: 31
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          to understand not their own problems, but the whole state

          And also to secure income levels (tens of millions per year) that these senior officials annually declare.
          Question: which of these two things is their priority?
          RBC data:
          https://www.rbc.ru/politics/16/04/2021/6079c11d9a7947677d93a934
        2. Valera75 Online Valera75
          Valera75 (Valery) 10 August 2022 17: 26
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          Valera, you need to live at least 500 years before senior officials in order to understand not your own problems, but the whole state

          And one of the top officials lived 500 years to become smart, to understand everything and understand everything? I have enough experience that I have to understand that these top officials, as you say, did not comply with 75% of the May decrees of the president. Do you know for what year? For 2012 May decrees. According to your logic, these stupid people need to live another 500 years to lead my country into a brighter future? God forbid!
    3. InanRom Offline InanRom
      InanRom (Ivan) 5 August 2022 20: 17
      +6
      and this is an example when the American "Snowman" Johnson is more Russian than the above officials:

      18.00 Legendary MMA fighter Jeff Monson in an interview with Sport24:
      “What have I already done? I am a deputy. I help people who have lost their apartments. I have a Russian and LPR passport. I went to Donetsk and Lugansk many times, helped people there. He opened a free school in Lugansk, opened two sports schools in Ufa and one in Krasnogorsk. All are free. I help people in Russia. Well, who am I, if not Russian? I am Russian. Ok, I don't speak Russian very well. But I try, I try. I will talk soon. I don't go to America now. Live here. My family is in Ufa. The wife is Russian. I am Russian".
    4. Patrick Tiso Offline Patrick Tiso
      Patrick Tiso (Patrick Tiso) 6 August 2022 21: 32
      0
      La sénatrice Elizabeth Warren disait: un pauvre qui vole une bicyclette fait plusieurs années de prison, mais un financier qui a détourné des fonds s'en tire largement. Finalement je ne vois aucune différence entre le monde russe et américain. On peut même dire que la Russie copie et veut ressembler à l'Amérique, et peut-être même, l'égaler dans l'ignominie. En réponse à InanRom (Ivan) hier 14.09, des gens ordinaires sont emprisonnés pour avoir volé du pain dans un magasin.
    5. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 10: 42
      -1
      Are you jealous of Russian officials because you don't have the brains to be a Russian official?
  8. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 5 August 2022 16: 00
    +8
    The author asked such questions that one volume would not be enough to answer, a multi-volume book would be needed, because, like a thread, the answer initially leads far and deep. And in the "bottom line", the first to restore order in Russia itself, because there are no hopes for high bureaucrats, ministers and others, they look like enemies both in their actions and conversations, while children and money are often held hostage (as they called it in the old days) at enemy... That's when Russian and Russian patriots begin to rule Russia, then only talk about victory is possible. Now with graduates of Yale University and others in the United States, and today in high ranks of the Russian Federation, so they consider the United States to be "correct" and adjust the Russian Federation to the United States, what does this mean, we see today as an example - hundreds of billions of dollars abroad, and our own industry and business suffocates without credits. Such examples of failed and disgusting economic rule of the Russian Federation have been going on for decades. Everyone sees, but in the end: "and things are still there." What kind of victories can we talk about in such an internal economic situation in the Russian Federation ...
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 11: 14
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      Vladimir, who do you mean for the role of Russian and Russian patriots who will do everything right? Just in case -Power is either won by force or elected by democratic elections. You are not there. What is the meaning of your statements - zero.
      1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 9 August 2022 21: 02
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        You have questions - only by election, by voting. It seems that the NVO will stir up Russian society and will already be looking for whom to vote for ... And to persecute various Medvedevs and other Nabiullins, Siluanovs from the Eltsin era, who studied in the USA and became American novices from ministries and other high positions. Russia is ruled in such a way that after listening to professors of economics M. Delyagin, Katasonov and others, how is it possible to rule for decades by essentially sabotage anti-Russian acts. (you can’t pick another word) .... Next, take an interest in the topic and the statements of Katasonov, M. Delyagtin, - (today a member of the Duma Economic Committee.) ...
  9. Starik59 Offline Starik59
    Starik59 (Starik) 5 August 2022 18: 05
    -4
    Well, I see, all the strategists are assembled! from the author on the couch, to those who are on the couch! And there is nothing to say! Everything was explained to us suckers!!
  10. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 5 August 2022 18: 13
    0
    Well, less than six months have passed since Comrade. Marzhetsky repeated my words that the West would not let Russia stop at the borders of Poland.
    That's right - the United States will incite more and more conflicts, as long as it benefits them. And it is beneficial for them until they fly over them.
    Oh, it’s not for nothing that Russia and China almost simultaneously got a working hypersound.
    If this window of opportunity is not realized while the US is lagging behind, it may never happen again.
    Don’t go to a fortuneteller, a joint Russian-Chinese headquarters has been created, in which plans are being developed for a massive preemptive strike with hypersonics on the United States.
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 5 August 2022 20: 05
      -1
      Better a bad peace than a good war. Yes, hypersonic missiles are not a panacea for everything. As for the Russian-Chinese headquarters, it’s necessary to live up to this, as long as diplomats shake hands and assure them of friendliness. Of course, if Pelosi and the like fly often, where the PRC does not want, everything will flow faster. So Pelosi go ahead for the Taipei orders, earn your whole shirtfront, and we will rejoice at the creation of the then common headquarters of the PLA-MOD of the Russian Federation. According to the doctrines of both states, the outbreak of war by the first is not provided for ..
      1. monarchist Offline monarchist
        monarchist (Foma) 8 August 2022 19: 43
        0
        gospodin Tuzakow wy iz Partii Mira wam Brest2 luczsze znamenja pobedy nad Berlinom? prawdu skazite
        was na uczet wzjat polozeno ochrane
  11. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 5 August 2022 21: 37
    +6
    If the "elite" of the Russian Federation does not want to decide what to do with Ukraine and is constantly looking for how to go back so that they can have a house in London and rob money from Russia, then what kind of victory can Russia speak of. The dreamers of the "elite" will not allow Russia to become strong and independent, because this is death for the "elite".
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 11: 24
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      Vlad, voice the names of the elite, otherwise it somehow sounds from a lantern like Russia is to blame for everything. Weak? I'm sure you won't be able to name a single name! The elite are statesmen who do everything for the good of the state. What have you personally done for the benefit of the state?
  12. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 5 August 2022 22: 18
    +5
    Now we need to talk about how exactly Russia should build its strategy so that if not defeat the collective West with all its combined financial and industrial power, then at least not lose to it with a devastating score.

    Since the author speaks about the collective West, it becomes clear that he does not understand a thing about the current situation in the world.
    The world is divided into currency zones, the boundaries of which have already been largely determined. Here everyone is for himself. And the dynamics of the "West" is bad.
    If 3 years ago it was possible to say that the United States would keep the entire American continent in its zone (within the framework of the Monroe Doctrine), then over the past 2 years the United States has lost ALL of South and Central America. From the word "completely". The last straw is the anti-American government that came to power in Colombia in June 2022.
    Johnson resigned at the WB. His task was to force Putin to agree to the WB's right to assume the role of leader of its zone. As a result, he flew out of his post. Until they choose a new prime minister, until they form a new strategy ... Time is running out.
    The EU is not subject. The United States set itself the task of robbing the EU, dragging them into anti-Russian sanctions and solving its internal problems through the outflow of capital from the EU to the United States. This task was partially solved, but not enough money was withdrawn, they had already run out and inflation in the United States began to grow again.
    The World Bank wanted to destroy the EU in order to form a zone for itself out of the remnants. To do this, she set up comprador governments in European countries (with rare exceptions). But that didn't work out either.
    That's all the "unity" of the "collective" West.
    Sanctions have already begun to slowly roll back. Support for Ukraine (as an instrument of pressure on the Russian Federation) too.
    And the countries of the former West are facing an imminent economic collapse that is clearly at hand (several months).
    It is the proximity of the collapse of the West that is one of the reasons for the unhurried manner of conducting the NWO. Putin has nowhere to hurry. Knocking out the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not so obvious to the West. And it is more important than occupying some territories at the cost of losing HP. RF Armed Forces.
    For Russia, the most important thing now is the removal of the liberal elite from power. We have about 3 million saboteurs who "manage" the country and, above all, the economy and finances. The task is very difficult, but the process is ongoing and visible.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 August 2022 23: 24
      +3
      You have been singing this "song" of yours about Putin's wisdom and his "economic weapons" on forums for more than a year, while a country ruled by the existing government, losing its resources and capabilities, falls into all the pits on its way. As before - the collapse of the West is always ahead of you and "soon"
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 5 August 2022 23: 59
        +3
        I described specific facts. What's wrong?
        The West is losing resources. Not Russia.
        When was it seen that Saudi Arabia was sending Biden on a foot erotic trip?
        Can you imagine the scale of industrial inflation in the West? Given that they do not have their own resources? Everything happens before your eyes, but you do not see. It's your problems.
    2. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
      Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 6 August 2022 04: 06
      +1
      For Russia, the most important thing now is the suddenness from the decline in grain exports to the mass expulsion of diplomats.
    3. aslanxnumx Online aslanxnumx
      aslanxnumx (Aslan) 6 August 2022 11: 55
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      And a lot of liberal leaders have been fired.
    4. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
      vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 7 August 2022 11: 52
      0
      Eat Russia, that's what unites them all. It already happened, for example, under Hitler, a united fascist Europe devoured the USSR. Hoping for discord within the Alliance is only hurting yourself. All power in the Russian Federation, from top to bottom, consists of crap liberals, strangers do not go there, everything looks the same there. How will you remove the liberal "elite" from power? In the 1990s, they staged a coup d'etat, seized power, appropriated the wealth of the people, and you want them to voluntarily quietly leave. The liberal "elite" in the struggle for power will drown Russia in blood and NATO will help it in this. The entire power "elite" is no longer Russian, it is NATO.
    5. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 11: 31
      0
      Boriz, how do you see yourself in power?
  13. Spasatel Offline Spasatel
    Spasatel 5 August 2022 22: 29
    +1
    If we can create not a virtual, but a real Union State of Russia, Belarus and the entire liberated Ukraine, and then expand it to the entire post-Soviet space, making "USSR 2.0" a new world center of power and pushing back the borders of the NATO bloc as of 1997, this will will be a definite victory.

    And what will be the slogans?
    Under what ideology?
    For what purpose will it be created?
    Putin is neither "be" nor "me", Volodin and Matvienko do not care, Medvedev already has everything, the rest of the "druzhbans" do not need this hemorrhoids.
    Maybe we should take care of ourselves?
    Without this muddy company ...
  14. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 6 August 2022 02: 09
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    The Third World War began on March 5, 1946 and never stopped. In 1991, the USSR lost in it and fell apart. On February 10, 2007, Russia, as the successor of the USSR, returned to this war again. The operation in Ukraine was one of the battlefields of this war.3 the world war will end only with the defeat of the United States and the disappearance as a state in the form it is now. There will be no winners in it. The world order itself will change. America lost this war at the moment when it stopped making material contributions to the world economy and living in debt. The laws of the economy ruthless. Russia has one task in this war, to reach a zero score with minimal effort. Ukraine here is generally a bow on the side, a distracting maneuver.
    1. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
      Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 6 August 2022 04: 04
      +3
      Russia's task in this war is not to bear losses.
      1. shinobi Offline shinobi
        shinobi (Yuri) 6 August 2022 07: 15
        0
        Wars without losses, only in bad movies. Zero score with minimal effort, this is not to bear losses.
  15. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
    Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 6 August 2022 04: 03
    +2
    Those who do not have enough resources will lose.
  16. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 6 August 2022 04: 54
    +2
    Russia, by and large, does not need Moldova, Armenia and the Baltic states at all. And to get in to sort out something hypothetical there is absolutely not necessary. It is obvious. And yet, what kind of "liberated Ukraine" is there, this unviable and permanently anti-Russian project must be closed tightly, completely, once and for all.
    1. shinobi Offline shinobi
      shinobi (Yuri) 6 August 2022 07: 16
      0
      do you propose to reach the frontiers of 1939?
    2. Vova Zhelyabov Offline Vova Zhelyabov
      Vova Zhelyabov (Vova Zhelyabov) 7 August 2022 05: 57
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      How not needed! Russia has big interests. There will be no us, others will come.
    3. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 11: 35
      0
      Cooper, we need all the land we had. If you do not need anything, this is your opinion, but not the Russian State.
  17. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
    syndicalist (Dimon) 6 August 2022 08: 13
    0
    Yes, World War III has begun. Its outcome is basically clear and practically does not depend on the course of the current battles. Moreover, the main players not only do not directly participate in this war, but do not even oppose each other, since they agreed on everything a long time ago.
    America and China have divided not just spheres of influence, they have actually divided the territory of the planet. Now they are pushing small players against each other so as not to get in the way. When they exhaust their forces, the remnants will be offered long-negotiated political alliances, which in real life will become just a takeover. Now, for example, the theme of the USSR-2.0 is being actively promoted. It is promoted both in Russia and in China. At the initiative of China of course. Such an alliance would no doubt be offered by a war-weary Russia. And what happens when two countries merge, one of which has more than ten times the population? That's right - everyone will become Chinese, as has happened many times in Chinese history.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 6 August 2022 14: 58
      -1
      Unfortunately, there is a more likely option for your build.
      In it, Russia, as it were, already belongs to China's sphere of influence "long ago agreed" with the United States. With the possibility of creating the CCCP-2 (?!)
      How can this be, if at every step we come across signs of dependence (our Central Bank, for example), but not from China, but from the USA? Probably, this has been the custom since Yeltsin, when the States seized Russia with gunpowder.
      I think that here and now nothing has changed. The offal of Russia (the Central Bank in particular) is in the hands of the States, and the head is allowed to look towards China. But for now, it's just a distraction. So far, the "game" of the States against Europe has not demanded that Russia be fully involved, and used without a trace. I think that Russia is still wholly owned by the States, and appointed by them to the role of an adversary of Europe in the Great European War.
      We have yet to try to break free from this deadly "hook" for us.
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 11: 44
        0
        Alexei, forget about Russia's dependence on the United States. The stupidities of some, repeated by others, are nothing but stupidity.
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 13: 21
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          So far it doesn't work. Maybe it will work out when we subjugate Russia to the Central Bank, force officials to live on salaries, and not on kickbacks, deal with the "fifth column" of the States in all key areas, force officials to withdraw their assets and relatives from the West, create a self-sufficient economy, make the people a key element system of command and control of the country, we will completely get rid of the dollar in the economy, and before all this, we will transfer the States from "partners" to "enemies" and force them to fulfill the conditions of our Ultimatum with the threat of a nuclear war on their territory, followed by their return to "candidate partners" . Maybe then
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 11: 39
      0
      Syndicalist, Exhausted Russia. What a horror ... King is resting. What are you talking about?
  18. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
    soloist2424 (Oleg) 6 August 2022 11: 45
    +1
    The article does not make sense to consider without the second part. Everyone understands that the main enemies of Russia are the United States and their henchmen, and the war will be won only when the States are economically or militarily (which is very dangerous because of the likelihood of using nuclear weapons) are defeated.
  19. Remigius Offline Remigius
    Remigius (Remigiusz) 6 August 2022 15: 49
    +1


    Dla mnie poparcie Rosji w jej walce z Ukrainą i Ameryką jest jednoznaczne
    i wynika z logici przyczyn i skutków.
    Na Ukrainie Ameryka i jej podziemne państwo walczy z Rosją o swą całkowitą dominację nad światem.
    To Ameryka i jej armia stają za globalnym resetem i ludobójstwem medycznym na całym świecie, związanym z planami przejęcia ludzkiej wolnej woli i podporządkowania nas ich brudnym celom , łącznie z depopulacją.
    Rosja walcząc z Ameryką, jest naszym sprzymierzeńcem i zabiega o świat policentryczny, ktory zawsze będzie nam bardziej przyjazny niż świat jednobiegunowy.
    Ostatnie dwa lata są tego dowodem.
    Ukraina będąc narzędziem w amerykańskich rękach jest z tej perspektywy moim wrogiem, gdyż wspiera siły dążące do unicestwienia podstawowych ludzkich wartości i wolności.
    Żydoamerykańskoanglosasska tyrania zbuduje świat, w którym życie człowieka stanie się gehenną.
    Dlatego życzę zwycięstwa Rosji. Dla świata wielobiegunowego.
    Marek Lech Jozef Szalowski
  20. monarchist Offline monarchist
    monarchist (Foma) 6 August 2022 23: 06
    -1
    nado nemedleno nanesti prewentiwnyj udarSJAR unicztozit USA Kanadu GB japoniu i Israel gayropie +awsralii
    ultimatum= bezgowoczna kapitulacja potom okupacja w itogie Rosja = 3 RIM gospod mira i sobirajet jasak
    iz wsech gosudarstw byt po semu
  21. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 August 2022 09: 00
    -1
    If you carefully read Marzhetsky's articles, then only the blind will not see one very characteristic detail. In the event of something there ... subsequent unrest among the population and the collapse of the country into warring fragments according to the Yugoslav scenario. Probably Marzhetsky and the majority of those present here are sleeping and in a dream they see the overthrow of the existing government and the creation of some kind of people's government, and so on. etc. There will be nothing like that, Marzhetsky and those with him, cut it on the nose. In wartime, any encroachments on the existing legally elected government will be suppressed in the most cruel way, and with the most active support of the population. So who wants to be at the wall with a flag in their hands. Now everything is not so right for you, and it can become dissatisfied for you at all.
    1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
      vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 7 August 2022 12: 42
      +1
      What are the criteria for Russia's victory or defeat in the war with the collective West

      Author. A good title for the article, but the criteria for victory are not disclosed, and I would not want to predict the defeat of Russia. The criteria for victory are the Russian economy, the number of citizens living in Russia, at least 200 million people, the ideology that unites the Russian people, the territory for comfortable living of the people - now more than 50% of the territory of the Russian Federation is not suitable for comfortable living due to climatic conditions. There can be no more union state. Creating a new Union State We recognize as legitimate the coup d'etat in the 90s and the destruction of the Soviet Union, and privatization, and the plunder of the national wealth of the people. It's time for everyone to understand that the territories of the former Soviet republics of the USSR are the property of Russia. The entire territory of the former USSR, this is the territory of the Russian Federation-Russia. Russia (USSR) did not transfer, sell or donate its territories, as well as its foreign assets, to any of the Union republics of the USSR. Now the Russian authorities can not decide what to do with Ukraine???
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 7 August 2022 20: 02
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        Vlad is not as simple as it seems to you and to many other people who did not understand and now do not understand the meaning of the events of the 90s. You write that -... creating a new union state, we (thereby) recognize as legitimate the coup d'état and the destruction of the Soviet Union, the privatization and plunder of the national wealth of the people ...
        Why do you think that we should not recognize? Let it be known to you that the USSR ruined the very people whose national wealth you care about here. What kind of illegitimacy are you talking about if the people are tired of the dominant role of the CPSU in all spheres of life of the population. The main confusion was that the Soviet people (people) categorically do not have the right to be rich!!! Otherwise, the entire USSR would have to be transferred to the regime of the notorious Rublyovka both in Moscow and on the ground. And there lived (comfortably) mostly party functionaries. The rest of the people of the country were essentially content with a living wage - a salary in the range of 150-200 rubles. It was the communists who, by their position, created (initially) the stratification of society into the poor and ... communists. In order to have benefits, it was necessary to replenish the ranks of ordinary communists. A party card opened many doors from universities, shops, career advancement in production and entry into power. A simple non-party person simply could not have many things if he was not a member of the Communist Party. So it turns out that the dissatisfaction of those who, in terms of their moral qualities, did not fit the honorary title - a communist (read the Charter of the CPSU) simply could not join the party. It is no coincidence that Yeltsin's promise to liquidate the CPSU received the support of the majority of the country's population. There is an opinion among a certain stratum of the population that, they say, the USSR was destroyed by traitor communists. If so, then who always chose these communists by expressing 100% to them in the voting? I hope I intelligibly, at least briefly, explained both the reasons and the reason and who exactly "destroyed" the Soviet Union, which had lost its original state economic and one-party structure.
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        2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 August 2022 19: 35
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          The main confusion was that the Soviet people (people) categorically do not have the right to be rich!!!

          The only statement you have with exclamation marks. And immediately with three. Like a cry from the heart.
          You mean the wealth of a person expressed in terms of his cash.
          I am originally from the USSR, I worked as an engineer in an NPO, I was constantly on business trips in Moscow, I didn’t earn more than 240 (it seems so) rudders a month, it was a good salary, but I didn’t save money.
          So, I am a rich man. He flew for 4 years in the flying club - aerobatics with elements of acrobatics - aerobatic complex of the 1st category in aircraft sports. He served as an officer, the second number of the launch crew in the Strategic Missile Forces on Yasnaya in the ZabVO. He worked as a simple engineer in an NPO, went to test our navigation complex in Zhukovsky, tested it at a stand in Moscow. All my life I have been up to my neck in the most interesting and difficult work, and now it happens. It's all with me. I am terribly rich, although I have almost no money.
          Judging by the word that broke through, you consider your material status important for yourself.
          Then answer the question - who will ensure your safety and the preservation of the staus, if the States still manage to defeat Russia? In what form will she be able to resist the States, gain a future and protect you and your loved ones further?
          Unless, of course, your life is connected with my Motherland, and not with the united West.
          By the way - I have never been a communist (and I was not forced to become one), but only now I began to understand the wisdom of setting this ultimate goal
          1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 8 August 2022 21: 26
            -1
            Alexei, either I did not quite clearly explain my thought, or you turned into a completely different steppe, as in the films - Turning neither there. From which of my statements can we conclude - Unless, of course, your life is connected with my Motherland, and not with the united West.
            Well, as a result, you focused on the material status (position) of my beloved and important ... In general, I caught a share of irony in your words. Okay, maybe then, without any irony, you will not accidentally tell me why all the revolutions took place? For the sake of shooting with impunity and getting rewards for killing, or for the sake of this well-being in material terms? And in order to move the masses to these murders, a slogan or, more simply, an ideology is needed. It may not be in modern Russia and there is no ideology in the Constitution. That is, the basis on which it is possible to build the prerequisites for the tyranny of some over others on completely legal grounds. Well, if we proceed (in pursuit of a better understanding) that ideology can only be singular (one for all), then this is a direct path to a one-party system and the abolition of all opposition parties. One-party status leads to the appointment of the head of one party as the head of state and the Supreme Commander with unlimited rights. Doesn't it remind you of anything? That is, a return to what already was and from which they got rid of with such difficulty. By the way, many people here are just calling to revive the USSR, seeing it as it was without realizing that this is already impossible in principle. The impossibility is inherent in the Soviet and Socialist. And this, first of all, speaks of the need to change the state and political structure. But here an ideology is really needed to raise the "masses" for - the Power of the Soviets in the initial stage, which will lead to a revolutionary mess and then, as a result, to a civil war ... So who can call for a return (order - there is no Stalin on you) USSR? That's right, or people are completely narrow-minded or banal traitors to the Motherland, seeking to weaken it from the inside as much as possible. And it all starts with criticism of the existing government from top to bottom and frank calls to overthrow it "for the sake of the material well-being of the common people." I hope I explained the material as simply as I could.
          2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 8 August 2022 22: 11
            -1
            In order not to write a post too long, I will write the second one because I did not answer all your questions in the first one, so to speak. I'll start about money, be it bad. And so wealth is a subjective concept, and therefore, apparently, the wise men came up with wisdom - I am rich in what I have (or something like that) That is, if you have nothing, then this is what you are rich with. If you have something, you are rich too. Well, if you have everything you don't want, you're rich. What is the wide range, don't you think? For a simple person, the first and second options are not in the vein, he needs a lot and everything to feel rich. True, there is one nuance in the assessment of wealth. And it is directly related to the assessment of one's personal wealth and attitude towards it. It's all about the upbringing that is said initially - with the mother's pier. And in folk wisdom there are a lot of sayings about this. For example - As you stomp and burst, You can’t easily catch a fish from a pond and many others. That is, the main criterion of wealth is labor. I remember my father taught me about this as a child - If you want to live well - work well, if you want to live very well - work very well, if you want to live richly then work until you fall. How many of us were brought up by our fathers?
            I also come from the USSR and at least from the "lower level - secondary education) my youth was also interesting and eventful and learned how to be a cook, and a driver, and a car mechanic and a turner, a welder and a builder. I never became rich, yes and there was no particular desire for this.He lived like everyone else.He was neither poor nor rich, I repeat - like everyone else.
            As for the question of my status, if America is something there ... I find this question just ... I want to call it stupid. What does one have to do with the other? Firstly, I managed to raise my son so that he would now fight with his unit in Ukraine against the Nazis coming out. Secondly, I absolutely trust all the actions and decisions of our president. And thirdly, I am also absolutely sure that our cause is just and victory will be for Russia.
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            2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 9 August 2022 09: 39
              +1
              You have a lot of words and fog.
              If you say that you trust the President, answer then:
              - Why during his presidency he looked serenely at the expansion of NATO, starting with its second wave in 2004
              - Why did he continue to dismantle production and deprive the country of industrial development for the sake of foreign exchange reserves for 20 years?
              - Why did he place these reserves so that it was easy for the enemy to take them?
              - Why was the only result of his ultimatum to the West the convenience for the enemy of NATO expansion and the capture of our reserves?
              - Why, after this theft, did he send payments on the public debt to the enemy, and even in dollars?
              - Why does a meat grinder work in Ukraine, grinding our forces and people, and we don’t even touch its owner, the States?
              For now, at least for these questions
              1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 12: 48
                +1
                Alexey, from the point of view of a sane person, such questions are essentially absurd. From the point of view of the representative of the fifth column, they are natural. So I will answer exactly the representative of the opposition to the existing system and, as a result of power. I will answer the answer-question and take the trouble to answer.
                1. And what right did he have to interfere in the politics of foreign states?
                2. The question is incorrect because the original reason is not disclosed - why. If you do not know this, or most likely do not want to know, then either study the global economy and the mutual relations of the world's economies or do not ask stupid questions. If something is not clear what Putin (read - the State) is doing, study the political economy, finance and the basics of politics. None of the experts can argue that Putin has deprived or is depriving the state of industrial development. Maybe you don't know everything? Dismantling of production... And why obsolete production and technology? It is easier to build new modern ones. Or are you not satisfied with the labor market? Well, this is when new productions are not at all obliged to suit everyone who is not near, as long as there is no unemployment (as with a scoop), but to choose the best of the best. The rest of the gate turn.
                3. Well, this question is finally the top, we don’t know what. Well, is it really not for a person who is far from stupid with a higher education and far from young (judging by the texts above) to ask questions ... no, not like that, choose questions according to the highest category of stupidity and inadequacy. What are you talking about? No, not really, how old are you? Okay, I'll try to simplify as much as possible. In the world economy there are no friends, let alone enemies. Otherwise, there can be no question of any world economy. There is a cold calculation - profitable is not profitable. This is the basis of the world and indeed of the economy itself. There are a lot of contracts that regulate the relationship that guarantee the process of this very economy. Mutual obligations impose risks on business partners if they fail to fulfill their obligations. This is an axiom. Europe froze three hundred billion gasprom Russia compensated for the losses of Western property in Russia, it seems seven hundred billion. It is on tyrnet you can check. For theft, Europe will pay an order of magnitude more for the coming winter. Nothing personal - business.
                4. Why? Yes, because Russia is a responsible "client" and honestly pays off its debts. Well, we are Russians, unlike any other rabble. We have no enemies (it is a great honor) we have our partners at the suggestion of the President. What enemies are you talking about? Maybe these are your personal enemies?
                5. Because in order to eat an apple, you need to wait for it to ripen. Otherwise, it will not be an apple, but inedible sour meat.
                I'm surprised there are so few questions. Maybe you just don't have others?
                1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                  Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 9 August 2022 13: 33
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                  Maybe you just don't have others?

                  You evaded this answer as well.
                  There are actual results of actions. They are the answers themselves.
                  As for the "opposition" and "fifth column" labels, what do I have to do with it if the government itself discredits itself with its actions?
                  I, like any citizen of Russia, have the right to demand from the government the proper performance of its functions.
                  I do not demand that the government surrender the country to the enemy. On the contrary, I demand protection from him.
                  This is my interest and the interests of my family. These interests coincide with the interests of Russia. I'm sure of it
                  1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 20: 03
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                    These are not labels, but conclusions based on your statements. And so - I, as any citizen, have the right - well, and further in the text. Note that you didn’t even mention in a dream or spirit that you, like any citizen, also owe a lot. But this is excluded, and it gives out with a head belonging to. For some reason, many people are confident that the state owes them everything. Why on earth, do not tell me? Further, such people are confident that if some head of the "village council" did not do something, then the head of state is to blame. Both of them are power. As a rule, they don’t really fight with local heads, although there are all legal tools for this. Court, prosecutor's office, public opinion. So sue, win courts and raise questions about the legal issue of being in power of a negligent official. Putin (power) have to do with it?
                    In what ways does the government discredit itself? Can you list it point by point? Otherwise, I cannot answer this question.
                    Well, with the requirement for the authorities to protect the country from enemies, you yourself are cunning, if you read your statements not just to an ideal government (you have some idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbwhat it should be) but to the current one. From which it is already necessary to demand that she protect the country from enemies. So between the lines we see that this power needs to be changed. The fifth column needs to change Putin, and thus the enemies also have Putin in their throats, and they need to change him for a pro-Western chela like Yeltsin and Gorbachev, who practically surrendered the country without a fight. So how does the fifth column differ from external enemies? It turns out that there is no difference. And note that none of its ranks, well, point-blank sees all those achievements of the country as a whole under Putin. It’s easier for them to lie that nothing has been done at all. Funny! Well, to demand from the authorities ... You most likely have Putin in the person of power, right. If so, then there is confidence that you do not vote for Putin, but you need another candidate for the post of head of state who promised to fulfill all your and your like-minded wishes. Putin most likely does not promise anything of the kind, so you need to demand it.
                    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 9 August 2022 21: 38
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                      (Oleg Ignatov) Yes, in your speeches of scholasticism, abstract presentations of your vision, the foundations of which are not only controversial, but a large part are clearly not correct .. (when they say little, they look smart, when they talk a lot, and begin to carry a "blizzard" ... "We need extensive discussions, and in the comments up to several dozen phrases. Therefore, as a defender of the Government indiscriminately and defining its activities, I will not bother. Advice, listen to the statements of professor economist Katasonov, he knows the economy and the government of the Russian Federation, that will be interesting. This about the facts, naked propaganda, for bottling from barrels, is not interesting, but you have a sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbit ...
                2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                  Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 9 August 2022 15: 45
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                  take the trouble to answer

                  I'll work hard

                  from the point of view of a sane person, such questions are essentially absurd

                  Essentially, you are wrong and you know it. In form - I admit that you can perceive them this way if they hurt your pride

                  From the point of view of the representative of the fifth column, they are natural

                  Since you and I have encountered more than once on the margins of this publication (it is difficult to confuse your manner of arguing with someone else's) - you perfectly understand that this is not fair

                  And what right did he have to interfere in the politics of foreign states

                  You answered formally (it is typical for you when there is no answer - essentially). Why then did Putin suddenly decide now to intervene in this policy with his Ultimatum?

                  None of the experts can argue that Putin has deprived or is depriving the state of industrial development.

                  The time of historians has not yet come, but this does not mean that we cannot judge this now. The results of 20 years of work of the authorities are obvious. The lack of investment in production against the background of receiving income from the sale of oil and gas, and the accumulation of reserves in the West is an objective reason for such an opinion.

                  In the world economy there are no friends, let alone enemies. Otherwise, there can be no question of any world economy. There is a cold calculation - profitable not profitable

                  You are cunning. Don't we now see our geopolitical enemies exploiting our dependence on them as an economic partner? Are you from here, or from a parallel universe?

                  Why? Yes, because Russia is a responsible "client" and honestly pays off its debts. Well, we are Russians like that, unlike any other rabble

                  Should I take this as a serious answer?

                  Because in order to eat an apple, you need to wait for it to ripen. Otherwise, it will not be an apple, but inedible sour meat.

                  Again avoiding a direct answer. How do you know about the apple and the expectation of the head of state?
                  1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 9 August 2022 20: 55
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                    Hurt? Rather, they cause confusion. It can't be because it can never be. So about. A paradox out of nowhere. And naturally the question arises - Why do I understand others do not and at the same time turn everything upside down? What for?
                    What is not fair, dear? To call a spade a spade based on your own statements? Speak differently and the assessment will be different. What is the problem?
                    Why Putin was silent for 20 years, and now he is throwing prejudices to the West ... You yourself would take this question knowing the history of your country. For example, why did Stalin say (seem) to Zhukov - We would have another one and a half to two years. Putin, in order to repel the encroachments of the West, had not two years, but twenty, to raise the country from its knees and revive the army and navy at a modern scientific and technical level.
                    I agree, the time of historians has not yet come. We are not historians, but contemporaries. I hope you see the difference. So - time will tell.
                    How do you know about the lack of investment? And I don't know what accumulation of reserves in the West you are talking about. This is nonsense from my point of view. Explain what you mean.
                    Dependence is actually present in all countries. Some people have something others don't, even in America. This is not an argument. We also take advantage of the absence of something in the West. Oil and gas, for example, and using this dependence, we contribute billions of dollars to the state budget. And you didn't know that? I know because I live in this real universe.
                    Yes, this is a serious answer. Our country has long earned a reputation as a reliable partner. Are there any contractual breaches? Give examples.
                    Everyone knows the expectations of the head of state, so he voiced these expectations to the whole world. In a nutshell - If there is a threat to the existence of Russia, Russia will use nuclear weapons for its protection and sovereignty. Haven't heard of this either?
        3. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 August 2022 13: 49
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          It is no coincidence that Yeltsin's promise to liquidate the CPSU received the support of the majority of the country's population.

          There is such an opinion among a certain stratum of the population that, they say, the USSR was destroyed by traitor communists. If so, then who always chose these communists by expressing 100% to them in the voting?

          Here you, as a witness of those events, distort reality.
          I was then in Moscow, almost constantly, on business trips.
          All TV channels broadcast speeches by Yeltsin's supporters. As I understand now, all these broadcasts were coordinated and paid for by someone. Opponents were scientists, business leaders, but their opinions were published in long newspaper articles, which almost no one read. Yeltsin and his team generated in Moscow a hysterical (you can't put it otherwise) "struggle against party privileges." Probably (as I now understand) some technologies for managing public opinion were used for this.
          In the closed research institute where I went, in our team of bench tests, consisting of only men, all Muscovites were for Yeltsin. In a feminine way - hysterically. It surprised me. I clearly saw that it was internally empty. They are not. I once told them about this, and immediately got the nickname "Stalinist".
          The hysteria of the population of Moscow, literally before my eyes, helped Yeltsin and his team to push back the Moscow leadership of the party and the country. As a result, everything was decided in Moscow, and the country, as always trusting its decisions, accepted and implemented them.
          Thus, you distort reality by speaking of the participation of "the majority of the country's population" in those events. This also applies to all party organizations in the country, except for Moscow. The USSR brought up a people who trusted the decisions of the party leadership, directing their energy to their implementation, and not to criticism. On this, the Americans probably built that coup "with our hands"
  22. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
    Grei grin (Gray Grin) 8 August 2022 20: 29
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    I read all the comments, each one is good in its own way, but none of this will happen, there will be no victory either in a year, or in two or ten years, while the fifth column is in power in the rear, while we live according to the colonial constitution concocted by the United States, while us in the course of their dollar and euro, as long as we depend on the supply of everything and everything and do not revive the economy, education, medicine, and also do not introduce the death penalty, until we have an idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbwhat we are going and striving for! The first step towards victory over the world enemy, of course, would be the proclamation of the USSR, this would be the biggest blow for the enemy, both external and internal! In the meantime, chewing snot and concern, and so it will be until the fifth column and the colonial constitution put pressure on us!

    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 8 August 2022 22: 22
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      Grey's colonial constitution is in your head.
  23. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 14 August 2022 13: 47
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    To talk about the victory of Russia, you need to win in Ukraine, and then in the post-Soviet space, and only then raise the question of NATO. You can talk and discuss a lot, but all the actions of the state are based on laws, Decrees .... There must always be a goal, tasks, stages, everything is painted to the smallest detail.
    The word Ukraine has been heard from every “iron” for 6 months now, and it is not clear when the result will be. There is a Civil War in Ukraine, Eastern Ukraine is fighting with Western Ukraine or Western with Eastern. NATO and Russia are involved in this war.
    At the beginning of March 2022, I began to think on the basis of which Law or Decree the Russian troops entered the territory of Ukraine. The search for the document was unsuccessful, the document was not found. There is only a reference to the assistance to the DPR and LPR within the territories of these republics. It turns out that the actions of our army on the territory of Ukraine are not enshrined in the Law, the Decree, and the goals and objectives are not indicated, and what we will get to. All this prompted me to write a rationale for the need for the Law on Ukraine. For good it is necessary to have two laws:
    First Law. RF - Russia is the successor - successor of the Russian Empire (1917) and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (1991).
    Second Law. In accordance with Law No. 1 on succession, consider the territory of Ukraine the property of the Russian Federation - Russia.
    Rationale. "Why Russia Needs a Law on Ukraine."
    It is necessary to legislate that the entire territory of Ukraine, seized by the separatists with the help of NATO, is the property of Russia.
    Then, in accordance with the Law, the military operation conducted by the Russian Federation in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia, the reunification of peoples, the inclusion of the economy, population, territory of Ukraine in the sphere of economic activity of Russia.
    The presence of the Law will designate the goal, give certainty about the future to the citizens of Ukraine. Citizens living on the territory of Ukraine will not have to be afraid in the future for themselves, for persecution by the fascist regime. The military of Ukraine will en masse go over to the side of the Russian Federation, knowing that in the future they will become citizens of Russia and, if desired, military personnel of the Russian Armed Forces.
    All actions of the Russian Army on the territory of Ukraine will comply with the Law. The law will not allow NATO to intervene, to bring troops from Poland, Romania, Hungary into the territory of Ukraine, and the annexation of Ukraine by these countries will automatically disappear.
    The unilateral appeal adopted on December 5, 1991 by the Supreme Council of Ukraine “To the Parliaments and Peoples of the World”, by which it announced that “Ukraine considers the 1922 Treaty on the Establishment of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics with respect to itself null and void” is void, since in 1936 a new The Constitution of the USSR, with the entry into force of which the Constitution of the USSR of 1924 ceased to operate, including the Treaty on the Formation of the USSR of 1922. The Treaty on the Formation of the USSR of 1922 did not exist as an independent legal document.
    The withdrawal of the Republic of Ukraine from the USSR was possible only with a positive decision received at the USSR Referendum and the implementation of the USSR Law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I “On the procedure for resolving issues related to the withdrawal of a union republic from the USSR”.
    The USSR Constitution of 1977 was adopted by all the peoples of the USSR, and only the entire people of the USSR could give permission for Ukraine to leave the USSR.
    The exit of Ukraine without a nationwide referendum in the USSR and the failure to comply with the law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I is a criminal offense that has no statute of limitations.
    The Treaty "On Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine" dated May 31, 1997 ceased to be valid on April 1, 2019 due to its denunciation by Ukraine. The termination of this Treaty releases the Russian Federation from any obligation in relation to Ukraine.
    The USSR is the successor - the successor of the Russian Empire, and the Russian Federation-Russia is the successor - the successor of the USSR. All of them are the same subject of history and international law (RF), which has a new name and a different socio-political system. The Russian Federation-Russia and the USSR paid off all debts, including those of the Russian Empire, for which there are court decisions or other supporting documents. For example, between 1997 and to 2000 From the budget of the Russian Federation, payments were made in the total amount of 400 million US dollars in favor of the Government of the French Republic for the debts of the Government of the Russian Empire. In August 2006, the Russian Federation fully repaid the lend-lease debt to the United States. There are no outstanding debts, we do not consider modern loans. This is a fact that the Russian Federation has unilaterally assumed obligations to be the successor - successor of the Russian Empire and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR).
    Russia did not transfer, sell or donate to the former Soviet republic of the USSR Ukraine its territories, as well as its foreign assets.
    It is urgently necessary for the Russian Federation-Russia, as the successor of the Russian Empire and the USSR, and as the owner of the territory of the former USSR republic of Ukraine, to secure Russia's ownership of this territory within the 1975 borders. (Helsinki Accords) by legislative means, unilaterally.
    Example. In 2005, China passed the Anti-Secession Law. According to the document, in the event of a threat to the peaceful reunification of the mainland and Taiwan, the PRC government is obliged to resort to force and other necessary methods to preserve its territorial integrity.
    On June 15, 2022, China adopted the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) legal framework for non-military military activities. That will allow the PRC army to participate in operations not related to the war.
    The absence of a law stating that the territory of Ukraine is the property of Russia allows Russia's enemies to interpret the ongoing special military operation as aggression and occupation by Russia and allows NATO countries to annex this no man's territory.
    There is only one decision on Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine should return to Russia, in the form of regions and republics. There is no need to ask permission from anyone, everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state of Ukraine, no debts, no government of Ukraine in exile, no legal Bandera, no Ukrainian participants in various international organizations, no hostile state on the border of Russia.
    If the state of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have a headache. Ukraine will definitely join NATO. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, in the way that is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.
    This is just my opinion.
    I hope that the direction and the main idea will be clear to everyone.