Special operation, Ukrainian army and society

The beginning of the military special operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine showed that one of the elements of the strategic planning of the command was political counting on the consciousness of the Ukrainian people, on the instability of the current regime and the lack of motivation for military operations on the part of some part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The Ukrainian army

I confess that in February 2022, it seemed to me that a massive strike on the positions of the armed formations of Ukraine would cause not only the collapse of the front line in Donbas, but also lead to the complete disintegration of the army. But the harsh reality disproved such calculations.

The stability and viability of the armed forces of Ukraine is explained by a combination of factors, some of which were not known to the general public.

So, it turned out that about 40 Ukrainian servicemen - and this, one might say, a whole army - went through NATO training. And here it is not the transfer of experience or the acquisition of skills that is important, since the experience and competence of NATO instructors raise reasonable doubts, but the pumping of trained soldiers with the ideology that the United States and the West will help Ukraine, provide weapons and military support. Ukrainians were taught to fight specifically against Russia, to hate Russia and perceive themselves as an outpost of Western "civilization" in the face of the threat of Eastern hordes. 40 thousand is a large number of people, and they, distributed throughout the Ukrainian army, are the backbone on which the stability and morale of the armed forces rest.

In addition, it turned out that numerous fascist battalions, also trained by NATO and well-armed by the Ukrainian oligarchy, were thus built into an operational-tactical formation with the armed forces in order to act as detachments, maintaining discipline and instilling more fear than Russian troops.

And the last thing that was clear from the beginning was that the modern Ukrainian state was originally built as a nationalist, pro-Western and anti-Russian, and over the past eight years it has been transformed into a base for preparing an attack on the Russian Federation. This state actively and very aggressively processed the population, pumped up the army under the guise of patriotism with fascist ideology, cringing before the West and hatred not even for Russia, but for the peoples living in Russia and for that part of Ukrainian society that is loyal or sympathetic to Russia. The official attitude to the facts of the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation and the uprising of the people of Donbass became the basis of the new Ukrainian state ideology, the Ukrainian authorities self-determined the nation through the necessity, inevitability and validity of the war in the east. For eight years, Ukraine has raised a generation of young people whose worldview is shaped by fascist propaganda, Ukrainian nationalism and admiration for the West. They formed the basis of the mobilization appeal, also strengthening the moral and psychological stability of the armed forces. The Ukrainian government managed to create in the army an atmosphere of defensive, liberation, patriotic, national war.

Of course, the fire impact on the front lines greatly sobers up some soldiers. Under the explosions of mines and other shells, they involuntarily begin to think about their pawn role in preserving the Ukrainian regime, but these processes are still episodic, although they are growing as the special operation develops. There were even cases when Ukrainian soldiers, drugged by the delusions of propaganda, preferred inevitable death to captivity. But they were observed only before the fall of the Mariupol garrison.

Ukrainian society

Another thing is the political stability of the regime and the state of Ukrainian society as a whole. They came as a real surprise even to the Americans, Zelensky and his gang. In the first month of the special operation, careful observation of the Ukrainian propagandists, the military-political leadership and its curators from across the ocean showed their caution, their pre-panic state. And they were afraid not of the Russian army and its successes, but of Ukrainian society itself. It seemed to them that internal contradictions in Ukraine were the weakest point in the situation. But when they saw that nothing was happening, that the opposition humbly swore allegiance to the authorities, that the people meekly fled to the West, picking up and even developing all the main propaganda theses, they straightened their shoulders, felt confident in their abilities and, with triple zeal, began to lie about “crimes rashists”, “victories on the fronts” and the imminent “liberation of the Crimea”. As a result, Ukraine lives in virtual reality, where the “ghost of Kyiv” shoots down planes in batches, some big-mouthed beauty burned fifty tanks, a nineteen-year-old boy shot down ten planes, the swearing “did Tolya” will announce the collapse of the Crimean bridge the other day, Putin is about to die either from a deadly disease, or from a bullet fired in the forehead, and Russian troops commit monstrous, often unthinkable crimes.

One would think that the Internet, which allows you to look into the insides of Ukrainian society, distorts perception, since an army of Ukrainian propagandists with tens of thousands of bots is working on its open spaces. Therefore, until some time, I was skeptical about the picture that follows from network activity. I could not believe that the Ukrainians believed the arresters and Gordons. But now I had a chance to talk face-to-face with Ukrainians whose relatives live in Ukraine, and collect some information from the first, second and third mouths, which served as test material for general analytics.

So, I will share an interesting story of one young woman from Artyomovsk (Ukrainian fascists renamed it Bakhmut), which since 2014 has been turned into the most powerful fortified area in the Donbass and for which fighting is now underway. Artyomovsk became the patrimony of one of the fascist groups. This wonderful woman is a nurse who studied at one of the Kharkov universities in 2014, but was forced to flee to Russia to her relatives after receiving a summons from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In the family, she spoke Surzhik, and in Russia it was not so easy for her. I had to overcome the accent and some neglect from the locals, sometimes hiding that she was from Ukraine and even from the Donbass. But with hard work, she took place in the profession, graduated from the university and continues to work in the hospital. She got married, received Russian citizenship and had a child. But many of her friends, parents and other relatives remain in Artyomovsk. Even then, in 2014, some of her entourage assessed the trip to Russia as a betrayal, but did not focus on this and did not break off relations. After the beginning of the special operation, she became an enemy for old acquaintances and even for relatives. She is not only insulted, but she even received threats that if she dares to appear in her small homeland, she will be punished. Her own father, brother and aunt retell tales of numerous “crimes of Russians” and are amazed at how she can live in Russia, because this is hell on Earth. All counterarguments and appeals to sanity have no effect, her friends and relatives firmly believe that she was brainwashed.

And I heard several such tragic stories about family breaks, and they were all about the same. Ukrainian "patriots" repeat the evils of official propaganda, but it is important to note that not from the standpoint of the justice of the armed resistance of the WFM and the fact that Ukraine is allegedly waging a patriotic war, but by emphasizing the alleged crimes of the Russian army. They revel in stories about mass executions, rapes, looting, roughly speaking, they believe that the Russian Federation came to Ukraine to rob and rape. Obviously, the main factor in the formation of such a worldview is not political training, but some kind of mental influence. That is, the official “great power” chauvinism and Westernism that propaganda promotes do not take root among the people of Ukraine, but fakes and absurdities go with a bang.

Of course, Ukrainian society is far from homogeneous. There is Western Ukraine, where the people are generally saturated to the core with nationalism, there is Eastern Ukraine, where a significant part of society is glad to break with the Kyiv regime and is not against joining Russia. There is an intelligentsia that considers itself an "elite" who immediately rushed to Poland, a scandal in order to get a better job, but there are workers and peasants who have nowhere to go and have to somehow adapt to the situation on the ground. There are townspeople, there are villagers who have a different way of life and who suffer differently in the zone of combat and non-combat operations. All these layers, strata and strata are now undergoing an ideological split along the line of attitude to the special operation and the fact of the transfer of territories from the control of Kyiv to Moscow. And, unfortunately, the ideological influence of the West and the Kyiv authorities on the people exceeds both the level of critical thinking and the degree of ideological influence on the part of the Russian Federation.

The lessons of history that follow from how quickly Ukrainian society - our former, Soviet people - turned into what we are seeing now, once again prove the truth that breaking is not building. Unity and friendship among peoples are achieved with great efforts and great expenditure of time, while discord and hatred are sown quickly and easily. Of course, conscientious and decent historians have yet to comprehend the causal relationships between all armed conflicts on the territory of the former USSR and the collapse of our common Motherland, but it is already clear that without uprooting fascism there can be no question not only of the friendship of peoples, but also of good neighborliness. And the West only successfully uses our fragmentation and our mutual conflicts.
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  1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 31 July 2022 11: 46
    But now I had a chance to talk face-to-face with Ukrainians whose relatives live in Ukraine

    #Tavysho? Was the author just now able (or bothered) to communicate with the Ukrainians? And before, well, didn’t “shmogla” in any way? Before that, he lived in a parallel reality where blue ponies and pink unicorns live? I dare to assure the author that my Ukrainian relatives and acquaintances (let's say, far from Komsomol age) sang songs about "our zahisniki" to me from the first day. Those. ukroreikh propaganda worked 105% long before the start of the war. And from this follows the conclusion that Kyiv was not afraid of popular anger, but panicked because of ignorance of Moscow's plans. Kyiv did not know what forces the offensive would develop, whether there would be an increase in the power of the military group, and in what directions the offensive would develop. As soon as all this became known, panic disappeared and the fighting became more or less orderly.
    1. Alexey Lan Online Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 1 August 2022 22: 56
      Completely agree. And he also faced the brainwashing of Ukrainians even before the special operation. I am surprised by our leadership in this part. Didn't we have intelligence? With an insufficient number of troops, we may even come to the need for a tactical nuclear strike. Do not wipe the snot of defeat to our marshals. And the Ukrainian leaders also stopped panicking in connection with the help of the West.
  2. Pavel Mokshanov_2 (Pavel Mokshanov) 31 July 2022 12: 06
    Urya! Urya! We thought about how best to arrange everything, but it turned out as always (according to V.S. Chernomyrdin). Why intelligence did not work well, where is the analysis of the state of the Ukrainian society? The strategists decided that we can throw hats? Therefore, they made many unnecessary movements of troops at the beginning of the operation. And it's how it came out.
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 31 July 2022 12: 15
      Quote: Pavel Mokshanov_2
      Why intelligence did not work well

      To answer your questions, there was enough data from open sources. However, there was not only their analysis, but their presence was not even recognized. Everything was replaced by the mantra about "brotherly people".
  3. Sergey Pavlenko Offline Sergey Pavlenko
    Sergey Pavlenko (Sergey Pavlenko) 31 July 2022 12: 15
    Well, if the picture is as the author described it, then Russia has experience: after the end of the war, East Prussia went to Russia and everyone who lived there left, and the region (Kaliningrad) was simply populated by people from other regions of the country. Not a single former local resident remained, from the word "in general", apparently, this will have to be done with the territory of Ukraine, and, of course, no mercy for the stubborn Nazis, both among the Ukrainians and among the local population ...
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 31 July 2022 12: 21
      Quote: Sergey Pavlenko
      everyone who lived there left, and the region (Kaliningrad) was simply populated by people from other regions of the country

      I haven't seen more bullshit here. You have opened a new direction in the processes of reintegration of territories.
      1. Alexey Lan Online Alexey Lan
        Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 1 August 2022 22: 59
        Well, there will definitely not be deportation, but the stubborn and obvious opponents of Russia need to be hinted that they are not welcome and, if anything, Siberia still needs to be populated.
      2. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 2 August 2022 19: 43
        (k7k8) Replica. You already asked this question before accusing. The entire German population, by decision of the government of the USSR, was deported to Germany (per person no more than 20 kg.) From 1946 to 1948, there were no Germans left in the Kaliningrad region at all (a few, count on the fingers.) The settlement was carried out by importation from Smolensk, Kursk and others regions by organized transport .. This is how issues were resolved under I.V. Stalin .. Generations have gone, everyone is directly "educated". There is nowhere lower than the level ...
    2. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
      Pat Rick 31 July 2022 12: 39
      Now there is no war, so that "experience" flew away long ago into the constellation of the Moon Dog, right under his tail.
    3. Marciz Offline Marciz
      Marciz (Stas) 31 July 2022 20: 47
      You !!! I warned that after the betrayal of 2014, Russia has nothing to do in Ukraine, you didn’t believe it, you thought the Nazis would distribute gingerbread to pro-Russian people for 8 years !!!??? Really who are your analysts stupid people!!!???
      But there are still people who believe and see themselves in unity with Russia, but it depends on what you will do in the liberated territories !!!!???
  4. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 31 July 2022 12: 15
    It seems that the author has lived all 8 years in the same virtual reality as the guarantor, but only the guarantor has long been off the ground and cannot afford to draw information from other sources, apart from reports from "responsible" persons, and the author, even having access to the Internet, had no idea what was happening on the outskirts
  5. NikolayN Offline NikolayN
    NikolayN (Nikolai) 31 July 2022 13: 52
    And what? It was all hard and confusing. Now it's clear and understandable. Vadatursky, so Vadatursky. Zelya, so green. Everyone will be there.
    1. Victor 17 Offline Victor 17
      Victor 17 31 July 2022 17: 09
      Quote: NikolayN
      And what? It was all hard and confusing. Now it's clear and understandable. Vadatursky, so Vadatursky. Zelya, so green. Everyone will be there.

      Regarding the destruction of Vadatursky, the big question is whose rocket did it, and on the playground in Nikolaev they found a NATO-made warhead, this is a coincidence
  6. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
    DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 31 July 2022 16: 08
    Written correctly. The situation in Ukraine is ambiguous. The fact that "our friends are Americans" and they "will help us" has been said in Ukraine for a long time. I heard it myself. It is true that pumping grievances against Ukrainians began long ago, and with the collapse of the USSR, it intensified many times over. It's insults. I myself heard that "they will not kneel anymore" and 50 thousand of our tanks are not afraid. This was said several years before the war. Moreover, people are not poor, but, most interestingly, they laid the foundations of their well-being back in Soviet times and, in general, had a rather positive attitude towards the Union. Those. intolerance (hatred?) towards Russia began to be massively and aggressively cultivated, most likely after 2014. Prior to this, the confrontation between Russia and its peoples apparently did not have a state direction. Nevertheless, a well-applied strategy and, of course, media pumping led to what we have now. The Americans did it. Vile and brazen. We, Russian Russians, have every right to take revenge. Cruel. This is our right. We didn't start. Did the Russians shout - let's kill the Ukrainians? NO! But now, after the Ukrainian betrayal (AGAIN), we must kill all these Nazis, at least those who will not lay down their arms. It's to kill. Destroy. Further ... Further there will be peace. Not for the first time.
  7. soloist2424 Offline soloist2424
    soloist2424 (Oleg) 31 July 2022 16: 24
    I admit that Russia did not plan to resolve the issue with Ukraine by force. The fact that things were heading for war became clear about six months before the NWO. And during this time, you can't do much.
    1. Victor 17 Offline Victor 17
      Victor 17 31 July 2022 17: 01
      Quote from solist2424
      I admit that Russia did not plan to resolve the issue with Ukraine by force. The fact that things were heading for war became clear about six months before the NWO. And during this time, you can't do much.

      And how did she even plan to resolve the issue of Ukraine, why didn’t they conduct an analysis, where was the intelligence, where were the reports of the agents, why didn’t they know a damn thing, they didn’t suspect, but because the snot pulled so as not to quarrel with Western partners.
      1. Alexey Lan Online Alexey Lan
        Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 1 August 2022 23: 07
        In general, no matter what they promised to anyone, but intelligence does its job long before the wars. And it doesn't have to be illegal agents. The analysis of legal information gives a lot of things. Moreover, Ukraine flirted with the United States. The question is, what do we have? Intelligence certainly reported to the government everything correctly. And then what?
  8. opportunist Offline opportunist
    opportunist (dim) 31 July 2022 17: 35
    an army of four million trolls is working for the secret services of NATO countries, these are people who know the Russian language and are specialists in Slavic studies (After all, we can see this here from the indignant comments of various liberals on this site), their goal is to find weak vulnerabilities in our society with the goal of weakening our country, Ukraine has become a successful experiment for all these specialists specializing in color revolutions.
    1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
      Pat Rick 31 July 2022 20: 08
      an army of four million trolls works for the special services of NATO countries, these are people who know the Russian language and are specialists in Slavic studies

      Four million trolls? - It will not be enough, write that 40 million trolls. In every Norway and every Denmark. And all of them are specialists in Slavic studies.
      If you have devastation in your head, then a color revolution will certainly begin there. Psychiatrists-narcologists say the same thing.
  9. Rotmir Offline Rotmir
    Rotmir (Victor) 31 July 2022 19: 01
    I would like to bring some clarity in view of the fact that the information covered in the article is not entirely correct and is apparently due to the youth of the author. The nazification of Ukraine did not begin at all in 2014, but 30 years earlier. Back in the second half of the 80s of the XNUMXth century, a nationalist and largely neo-Nazi party called "Rukh" appeared in Ukraine, which preached the exclusivity of the "Ukrainian nation" and promoted "separation" from Russia, "restoration of independence." And this propaganda was based, as they say now, on a fake about the greatness of the Ukrainian nation in the past, which essentially never existed, and introduced the Bandera picture into people's heads. The forces of the then still living CPSU managed not to get rid of, no, but to suppress this ideology. Few people remember how in the reports of the late 80s of the XX century on TV, the crowds chanted "separate, separate, ...". Then they were already jumping and shouting: "Who does not jump is a Muscovite." And what about the statements of the new Ukrainian authorities in the early 90s that "Russia does not have its own products - meat, wheat, and so on"? Nobody remembers this anymore. Of course, Westerners "sinned" with this, but ... From my own experience (I rested with my family in Zaporozhye on the banks of the Dnieper), I know that in Zaporizhia (Zaporizhia) people were completely different and did not separate themselves from Russians. Having remained after the first race (the ticket was for two terms) for three days in the camp without food, we easily received food from the local population. People were even offended and did not take if I offered money for eggs, potatoes and fruits. But the fact remains - nationalism in Ukrainian society was reborn already in the 80s of the last century and even earlier. In the 90s, all this "went on the rise." My father (we lived separately) is a veteran of the Second World War, he lived in the Crimea from the 50s. In the period from 1960 to 1969 he was the chief therapist of the city of Yalta. Then he taught at the Yalta Medical College. In the 90s, being a pensioner, he worked as a cardiologist at 1/2 rate in the district clinic. So in the 90s, he wrote that the Kyiv authorities blocked the supply of simple medicines to the Crimea. Pharmacies did not have nitroglycerin, validol (!), aspirin, and so on. Now the generation has changed and hardly anyone remembers it. There was nothing to treat the sick. He rejoiced when I sent him a parcel with these drugs, which in Russia, despite the economic crisis, were freely available in all pharmacies. In Ukraine, hysteria against Russians was whipped up even earlier, for example, the presentation of his orders for service at the front during the Second World War, which were not received for certain reasons, and obtaining a degree (the defense took place already in the 60th year), were blocked by the authorities. He received everything in 2000. from the Ministry of Defense and the Higher Attestation Commission of Russia. In general, nationalism and Nazism gradually, quietly infiltrated the heads of Ukrainians for a very long time. And yes, the short-sightedness and ignorance of our experts in international affairs is largely to blame. The transformation of nationalism into a frank and rather "dense" fascism was simply overlooked, and this must be admitted. Society in Ukraine is zombified by fakes about "great Ukrainians", about "ancient exploits of Ukrainians" and this has yet to be fought by showing Ukrainians the true story. And it will be oh so difficult to break in the minds of the younger generation the idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe "great past", which did not exist! In my opinion, such a change is possible only in a welfare state.
    1. Marciz Offline Marciz
      Marciz (Stas) 31 July 2022 20: 58
      Shaw then you are very bent that everyone is zombified !!!
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  11. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 31 July 2022 20: 37
    And, another article explaining why it happened ....
    Since now it is impossible to legally look for analogies of Goebels' propaganda in coming out propaganda, one can simply recall that the "friendship of peoples" was remembered only now, and before that, both Chernomyrdin and Lavrov, others thought about the pipe, aluminum, titanium, bucks, and not any friendship there, joint festivals, events, etc., for which money was not allocated almost ...

    Imperialism is in the yard, what a friendship of peoples, it’s even ridiculous to read ...
    1. Alexey Lan Online Alexey Lan
      Alexey Lan (Alexey Lantukh) 1 August 2022 23: 13
      Explain: what is the friendship of peoples?; how peoples are friends specifically?. I can't understand this friendship between peoples.