How many more "red lines" should the US cross in Ukraine


The United States has launched a most veritable ultimatum to Russia. It came from the lips of a fairly high-ranking member of the Washington administration - John Kirby, who is the official representative of both the military and diplomatic departments, and therefore has the right to speak on their behalf. According to Kirby, the United States "has information that Russia is preparing to annex additional territories of Ukraine - in particular, Donetsk and Lugansk and parts of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions." He was instructed to bring to the attention of Moscow exactly what Washington's reaction to this step would be.


"Just laugh!"


Leaving aside the fact that Mr. Kirby, who is also the coordinator of the US National Security Council and strategic communications, allows himself to refer to Russia in such a tone that it is not her military forces that are today liberating one settlement after another under the rule of the Ukronazi regime, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are storming Voronezh and Belgorod. It is much more important here that the representative of the State Department and the Pentagon makes loud statements, which in essence fully confirm the thesis that the United States is not just a direct participant in the military confrontation in Ukraine, but is an open opponent of Russia in it. In this case, one cannot do without an extensive quotation that gives a complete picture of the position of our transatlantic "sworn friends".

We see a significant body of evidence from intelligence and open sources that Russia is planning an attempt to annex additional Ukrainian territories. Russia is beginning to announce, one might say, its own “rules and conditions” for annexation, as it was in 2014. Russia has already placed illegitimate controlled persons in the territories of Ukraine that it controls. And we know its next steps: first, these “leaders” will organize a staged referendum on joining Russia, then Russia will use these referendums in its desire to annex new territories of Ukraine

- declared Kirby.

According to him, despite the fact that the Kremlin initially stated more than once that it had no intention to occupy Ukraine, the Russian government is currently considering a plan to annex parts of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, as well as the entire Donetsk and Lugansk regions. The official cited specific “evidence that Moscow has already begun preparations for such a step”: the introduction of the ruble into monetary circulation in the liberated territories, “blocking access to the Internet on them”, as well as “persecution of people with pro-Ukrainian views and establishing full control over local media ".

The Kremlin has not announced the timing of these referendums, but their Gauleiters have said they will take place this year, probably in conjunction with Russia's September 11 regional elections. If Russia does go ahead with its annexation plans, our response will be swift and tough—and shared with our allies and partners. Additional sanctions will be imposed on Russia, it will become an even greater pariah than it is now. We will never recognize any Russian-annexed territories

Kirby summed it up.

Sanctions are not limited


Someone may try to give up on what was said - they say, they found something to scare! All your sanctions are not worth a penny and hit the "collective West" much more painfully than Russia and its the economy. That's how it is, only to deny the facts that irrefutably prove that the United States is not at all going to confine itself to confronting Russia with only one economic "battlefield", perhaps only a blind person or someone who completely lacks the ability to adequately perceive reality. The same Kirby "in addition" to everything that was said expressed confidence that "Ukraine will probably be able to recapture the territories temporarily occupied by Russia by military means." And then he explained - exactly how and thanks to what:

The White House will continue to provide Ukraine with historic levels of security assistance. Later this week, the administration will announce a new military equipment aid package for Kyiv. This will be the 16th such package in support of Ukraine since the beginning of the presidency of Joe Biden. It will include additional units of the HIMARS MLRS, which the Ukrainians used very effectively to change the situation on the battlefield, as well as additional shells for multiple launch rocket systems and artillery.

You can bet a hundred against one - among these very “additional shells” there will certainly be ammunition capable of hitting targets at a distance of 300 kilometers. As a matter of fact, according to some reports, those have already been placed on the territory of the “non-independent”, transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are just waiting in the wings. Or rather, “go-ahead” for use from American curators. Indirectly, they are confirmed by the following words of the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov:

As for HIMARS, there is some understanding that we have already begun to receive projectiles that go much further than it was at the beginning. And let's hope that what we need, of that range, will soon appear on the territory of our country.

“Already received” or “coming soon” - the difference here is by and large small. The strike on the Antonovsky bridge in Kherson fully proves that the go-ahead for the use of American MLRS, at least in those territories that Washington considers to be “illegally annexed”, already exists. Will missiles with a range of three hundred kilometers fly towards Crimea? The probability of such a development of events is approximately 99%. Let me remind you that Vladimir Gavrilov, the Deputy Minister of Defense of the "independent" military, stated in an interview with The Times that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would attack the Russian Black Sea Fleet and Russian positions in Crimea "as soon as they are technically ready for such actions." He noted that in Crimea, “any goal is legal,” because it is supposedly “an internationally recognized territory of Ukraine.” Previously, such plans were only allowed to be voiced by crazy "military experts" and "retired goat drummers" in uniform. Now fully operational generals are openly talking about them.

Moreover, as I wrote earlier, the supply of the HIMARS MLRS will inevitably be followed by the supply of the Ukronazi regime with fourth-generation American multi-role fighters. Next in line are medium-range cruise missiles of the Tomahawk type, which are being spoken about more and more loudly and insistently in Kyiv as “the only means of deterring Moscow”. Appetite, as you know, comes with eating, and Washington is showing more and more convincingly that it is ready to increase arms supplies to the Kyiv junta. Up to what limit? And apparently it doesn't exist. John Kirby's extremely brazen statements demonstrate that the United States is determined to dictate to Russia its terms of capitulation to the "independent", outlining the very notorious "red lines" that Moscow will not be allowed to cross under any circumstances. But after all, it seems that we were going to conduct them for the presumptuous "collective West", isn't it?! There they have already crossed all conceivable and unthinkable limits in their military intervention in the NWO being carried out in Ukraine. Or is something else needed for the Russian leadership to finally recognize this obvious fact and start taking really appropriate response measures?!
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  1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 20 July 2022 09: 16
    -3
    The author is right in general, and "wrong" in particular:

    They have already crossed all conceivable and unimaginable limits in their military intervention in the NWO being conducted in Ukraine"

    If the missiles have not yet flown to the Crimea - "all conceivable and inconceivable limits" - have not yet been crossed!
  2. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
    EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 20 July 2022 09: 30
    +6
    Well? Are we waiting for a strike on Crimea and another "expression of concern"?
    1. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 20 July 2022 12: 18
      -4
      Quote: EVYN WIXH
      Well? Are we waiting for a strike on Crimea and another "expression of concern"?

      We are waiting until the "Poseidons" and "Sarmatians" reach the number that will allow us to annihilate all decision-making centers at once ... Without trying to respond. In the meantime - "We Express Concerns".
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 22 July 2022 09: 44
      0
      What do you dislike about the word concern? You are aware that there is a legal language, the language of doctors, the language of diplomats. It's just that diplomats cannot speak differently, according to their status it is not allowed. Otherwise you are not a diplomat! Or did you want Lavrov to sing over the hair dryer like a urka under the fence? Concern means that - we have taken into account your actions and wait for a mirror response. It doesn't have to be on the battlefield. The answer could be anywhere. And you definitely need Lavrov to report to you personally on the work done, and you will still evaluate whether everything is so or not. Step into Lavrov's place and hold the flag in your hands. But, for some reason, I’m sure, judging by your wishes, that if you take the post of Lavrov in the morning, then in the afternoon you will be kicked in the ass from the ministry.
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 20 July 2022 10: 17
    -3
    So it was already clear from the beginning.
    Deputies and officials openly declare: we will join Russia.
    But Omerika and others also have no choice, they then acted as a guarantor of Ukraine's security after the rejection of nuclear weapons.

    And here is such a gift from the Kremlin: There is where to fuse old weapons, you can allocate a lot of money for new things, put the blame on others, practice logistics, upgrade the military-industrial complex, and so on and so forth ....
    In space, this has already yielded results, in launching space rockets we have always been ahead of them, and now they ...
    1. Nike Offline Nike
      Nike (Nikolai) 20 July 2022 11: 15
      0
      A guarantor of the non-use of nuclear weapons against Ukraine, and not a guarantor of security.
    2. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 20 July 2022 12: 26
      0
      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      And here is such a gift from the Kremlin

      If you were repeatedly expressed by the enemy, direct threats, and then raised a knife, over you or a member of your family, or over a defenseless person ... Will you wait for a blow, or will you try to prevent it? If Ukrainian leaders in power expressed threats of strikes, a dirty nuclear bomb...was it necessary to wait for the implementation of threats? Don't lie to yourself, unless of course on a Western salary.

      In space, this has already yielded results, in launching space rockets we have always been ahead of them, and now they ...

      The 180th engines will end, and the "advance" will also end. By the way, the accelerating blocks for the Antares were riveted by Yuzhmash, whose workshops slightly collapsed. Amer's sadness has arrived.
      1. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
        Vox Populi (vox populi) 20 July 2022 16: 41
        -2
        The 180th engines will end, and the "advance" will also end. By the way, the accelerating blocks for the Antares were riveted by Yuzhmash, whose workshops slightly collapsed. Amer's sadness has arrived.

        Before making broadcast statements, take an interest in how the situation really is and who flies what ... winked
  4. Ilya Aksenov Offline Ilya Aksenov
    Ilya Aksenov (Ilya Aksenov) 20 July 2022 10: 25
    +3
    Russia is returning Russians home along with those Russian territories that historically belong to it.
    To return and strengthen - these are the main goals set by V.V. Putin for the next 21 years.
    This means that we will return all of Ukraine, all of Moldova, all of the Baltic states, all of Poland, all of Finland. Well, then let's go to denazify and demilitarize the whole of Europe together with Great Britain.
    And we don’t need the United States, we will make the Stalin Strait out of them with the help of Poseidons and Sarmatians, although we will return Alaska.
  5. Ilya Aksenov Offline Ilya Aksenov
    Ilya Aksenov (Ilya Aksenov) 20 July 2022 10: 25
    +10
    The only thing that can be done with Ukraine is to break it up to the end into separate regions, so as not to be the legal successor of debts to the West, to strangle their own horses and fascists, and to fall on their knees before Russia with the lowest request for admission to Russia. Well, in fact, it will be a repetition of the Pereyaslav Rada, otherwise you will be filled with blood. There is no other option, neither the Americans nor the Europeans will help you.

    And you can answer those who wish to divide our lands - to divide this way, to divide, only in fairness, you will get what you want, and then you will join Russia together with these lands.
    On this territory the South-West Federal District will be formed without any mention of Ukrainians.

    By the way, a Ukrainian is the definition of a person by place of residence. The same as a Siberian, a Ural, a Volzhan, a Muscovite. Not a nation at all.

    We don’t need Ukraine and we don’t need Ukrainians. We must return the Slavic lands with the Slavs, and not this fascist rags jumping from drugs and cold.

    And forget your fantasies about how you will share our Slavic lands! All Slavic lands will return only to Russia!

    And in the west of the outskirts, Rusyns live - these are also Russians, so that everyone goes home to Russia!
    1. Nike Offline Nike
      Nike (Nikolai) 20 July 2022 11: 21
      +1
      At such a pace, it was not necessary to return and start. Everything is going to the fact that by winter the Americans will give Ukraine tactical nuclear weapons, but they started only with the rifle, and now tactical missiles are on the way
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 20 July 2022 11: 45
        +1
        That will be so.
      2. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
        Vox Populi (vox populi) 20 July 2022 16: 45
        +2
        I categorically do not believe about the transfer of tactical nuclear weapons, but otherwise everything really goes towards equipping the Armed Forces of Ukraine with more and more modern systems weapons and closer coordination with NATO...
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 21 July 2022 07: 37
          0
          They themselves will easily create a dirty bomb. And means of delivery.
          1. Chukchi farm worker (Chukchi farm worker) 30 July 2022 04: 38
            0
            Or they already are.
      3. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
        sgrabik (Sergei) 20 July 2022 17: 07
        +2
        If we continue to trample in the Donbass for several months, then this is to be expected, we cannot bomb targets in cities, because there are people there, and where, in this case, is our high-precision weapon capable of "flying through the window", where are our kamikaze drones and loitering ammunition capable of tracking down and destroying the same Hymars, where is all this ???
        1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 21 July 2022 13: 10
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          The transfer of even tactical nuclear weapons to Ukraine by the Americans is absolutely impossible under a number of international treaties. But in fact, it is already becoming a question of existence for the Russian Federation and the use of nuclear weapons at "decision centers - the United States" is quite real, because it fits into the documented and adopted strategy of the Russian Federation. This is known in the United States and they go to the first real dangers (nuclear war). Here the line is prescribed by the government of the Russian Federation, but for some reason it allows too much, and the Russian Federation suffers huge losses. First you need to charge all carriers with nuclear warheads (most of them are not charged), and then shoot down everything: - enemy reconnaissance drones and reconnaissance aircraft, up to AWACS, flying near the borders of the Russian Federation and transmitting intelligence to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It also does not stand on ceremony with spy satellites ... Installing all nuclear warheads will clearly allow the first to deliver a more crushing blow, because there is a war going on encroaching on the foundations of Russia's existence. A nuclear war is not needed from the word at all, but when they are pinned in a corner and the threat is too deadly: - spreading sanctions around the world, off-scale Russophobia also around the world, even exceeding hatred of Jews during WWII with their subsequent Holocaust, you need to answer very harshly, (what the Israeli authorities are doing, taught by bitter experience) According to our classic: "delay is like death" ...
  6. nurmag07 Offline nurmag07
    nurmag07 (Magomed Nurmagomedov) 20 July 2022 10: 27
    +2
    These creatures will not rest until a thermonuclear strike is inflicted.
  7. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 20 July 2022 11: 24
    +3
    So everything goes according to plan for the hockey player, so you have to be patient, he always hits first if a fight is inevitable, but now it turns out it’s not even a fight
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 20 July 2022 11: 50
      +3
      So far, everything is being done so that Ukraine can strengthen itself so that it is no longer possible to defeat it by military means.
  8. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
    EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 20 July 2022 11: 27
    +3
    Yes, they put "with a device" on all lines, no matter what color they are ... And there will be a lot of blood and destruction from this.
  9. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 20 July 2022 13: 18
    +4
    A strange war.
    The states say at every opportunity that they don't want a war with Russia, which is a nuclear power... and are at war with us in Ukraine.
    We are at war with the States in Ukraine, but we do not touch them themselves. Neither threats nor actions.
    "Game in equal conditions"?
    I understand if we had the Warsaw Pact, which would have included the countries of Latin America, and the war would have been on the borders of the United States. Where else shpo.
    In the present situation - who is the idiotom? Answer yourself
  10. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 20 July 2022 13: 29
    +4
    Red lines are needed by the authorities to scare, they will draw these lines as much as they need.
  11. Patrick laforet Offline Patrick laforet
    Patrick laforet (Patrick Laforet) 20 July 2022 21: 28
    0
    "We will never recognize any Russian-annexed territories." John Kirby said.

    John Kirby doesn't seem to understand that Russia has launched a Special Military Operation because Russia has no intention of ever recognizing the US-annexed Ukrainian territories.
  12. ZnahWest Offline ZnahWest
    ZnahWest (Ingvar b) 21 July 2022 12: 06
    +3
    It has long been clear that the ephemeral "red lines" are just a failed scarecrow.
  13. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 21 July 2022 14: 09
    +1
    Either the restoration of Russia, as under the tsar, then there is no need to restore as long as there is a museum in Sverdlovsk. After all, a full-fledged Russia was unraveled by the one for whom the museum was built. The current heir cannot go against his mentor. But in general it reminds Trotsky with his formula - no peace, no war. Not a candle to God, not a poker to hell! Here are the figurines. Break your head, what is the greater number one, or the number one.
  14. Sergei N Offline Sergei N
    Sergei N (Sergey N) 22 July 2022 07: 06
    0
    We are waiting for the strike on the Crimea with ATACMS missiles! Interestingly, deep concern will again be expressed in response?!
  15. Mikhail Krasyukov (Mikhail Krasyukov) 28 July 2022 20: 02
    0
    They will always cross red lines until they get ripped off.