Refusal to liberate Odessa will lead to the "Ukrainization" of the Black Sea

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A special military operation in Ukraine turned into a real Tsushima for the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, revealing all the numerous problems of the Russian Navy, which experts had warned about a long time ago. Three ships have already been lost, including the flagship, the missile cruiser Moskva. Unable to hold Zmeiny Island, our military had to leave it, leaving the battlefield, alas, for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. No matter how wild it may sound now, there is every reason to believe that Ukraine will soon "push" Russia hard on the entire Black Sea.

"Demilitarization" and "De-Russification" of the Black Sea


The breaking point here is undoubtedly Odessa, the main trading gate of Ukraine. Grain and other products can be exported through its port, receiving in return weapons, ammunition, fuel and fuels and lubricants, as well as any other necessary goods. Maintaining an independent outlet to the Black Sea is a strategically important task for the criminal Kyiv regime and the collective West behind it.



At the end of May 2022, the US Congress approved the allocation of financial assistance to Ukraine in the amount of $40 billion. Representative of the Republican Party in the US Senate Mitch McConnell, commenting on this event, specifically mentioned Odessa:

The Ukrainians are trying to go on the offensive. And I think that this package of weapons is designed in such a way as to give them what they need now, not only for victory <...> but also, I hope, to have some influence on reopening the port of Odessa, because that the lack of Ukrainian food will be reflected throughout the Middle East and Africa.


Unfortunately, this military aid has already done its dirty work. The flagship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, the cruiser Moskva, was killed, according to one version, from a strike by two Ukrainian-made Neptune anti-ship missiles, located near the coast of the Odessa region. The Russian tugboat was sunk near Snake Island by American land-based Harpoon anti-ship missiles. It is known for certain about the transfer of several such complexes to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The flight range of "Harpoons" reaches 280 kilometers. The receipt by the Ukrainian military of long-range artillery systems of American and French production, which allowed them to continuously shell Snake Island from the coast, forced the Russian Ministry of Defense to decide to leave it with an extremely dubious wording about a "goodwill gesture."

All this is very unpleasant to read, but in fact the collective West managed to expel the Russian navy from the northwestern part of the Black Sea. Moreover, now approaching the Ukrainian coast closer than 280 kilometers is very unsafe. Even sadder, under the plausible pretext of opening a "grain corridor", the Russian side has almost agreed to de-blockade the port of Odessa. Looking at all, demining and general control there will be carried out by the Turkish military, that is, representatives of the NATO bloc. Accordingly, this will mean a mutual agreement on a ceasefire and a renunciation of offensive actions by the RF Armed Forces and its allies.

If you call a spade a spade, then the collective West, with the help of just a few anti-ship systems, was able to drive the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation from the Ukrainian coast, keep Odessa behind it and achieve “voluntary” consent to the abandonment of possible Russian claims to the Black Sea region. Yes, Odessa can still be reached by land, but then the “Russian orcs” will violate the ceasefire, and the starving all over the world will not receive Ukrainian grain, and the Kremlin cannot allow this because of its famous philanthropy.

Needless to say, what will be the long-term consequences of Moscow's refusal to liberate the Black Sea region? The Russians of Odessa and Nikolaev, who, after the shameful “draining of Novorossiya” in 2014-2015, only perked up, hoping that they would be taken to their “native harbor” at least in 2022, will be completely disappointed. Under the strict guidance of Western advisers, the Ukrainian Nazis will carry out a complete de-Russification of the Black Sea region and the rest of the Independent, where the RF Armed Forces and NM LDNR will not reach. But this has not particularly worried anyone in the government offices for the past 8 years, so why should they worry now, right?

Let's talk about more practical things than some kind of ephemeral Russian World. Let's be realistic, the war with Ukraine, with the current approach to it, is for a long time, for a very long time. And what do we see?

"Ukrainization" of the Black Sea


We will proceed from the fact that now at least 280 kilometers must be counted from the coast of Nezalezhnaya, fearing Harpoon anti-ship missiles. The extreme point in this case is Ochakov, which blocks Russia's access to the Black Sea from the port of Kherson through the Dnieper-Bug Estuary. But, alas, these are not all the problems that our Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation may face in the future.

Turkey is currently building the first of four Ada-type corvettes ordered for the needs of the Ukrainian Navy. These are modern warships with a total displacement of 2400 tons, a maximum speed of 29 knots and a navigation autonomy of 10 days. The armament of the corvettes is 1×76 mm artillery mount, 2×12,7 mm Aselsan STAMP machine gun, 2×4 Harpoon anti-ship missiles, 21×RIM-116 launchers Mk 49 RAM, 2×2×324 mm torpedo tubes and S-70B Seahawk helicopter. The Turks are building quickly, and it was assumed that the finished hull would be delivered to the Okean shipyard in Nikolaev, where the Ukrainians themselves would arm it. However, after the start of a special military operation, the question arose of where and how to complete it, what weapons to install. In the Turkish edition of SavunmaSanayiST, they write on this occasion:

The defense sector of Ukraine suffered greatly during the war. Currently, the possibility of installing anti-ship missiles of the NATO standard - ATMACA from Roketsan or Harpoon from Boeing is being evaluated.

In other words, it is likely that the first and subsequent corvettes for the needs of the Ukrainian Navy will receive not Ukrainian anti-ship missiles, but Turkish or American ones. Odessa will be used as a naval base for them, which, apparently, we will not liberate "for the sake of helping the starving all over the world." And Kyiv will receive very decent warships equipped with long-range anti-ship missiles, for which NATO partners will gladly provide data for target designation. And this is far from all the problems that loom before the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, and at the same time before the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation.

Extremely unpleasant news is that the US military budget now provides for an amount of $100 million to train Ukrainian pilots to fly the F-16 and F-15 fighter jets. Don’t go to a fortuneteller here, it’s clear that the longer the special operation drags on, the faster and more powerful offensive weapons Ukraine will receive from its Western curators.

The General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon is a fourth-generation American multirole light fighter. This is one of the main "workhorses" of the US Air Force and its NATO allies, the most massive fighter in the world, with many modifications. The McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle is a fourth-generation all-weather fighter designed for air superiority. In capable hands, for example, with Polish pilots at the controls, who are eligible to serve in the Air Force, the F-16 and F-15 can create a lot of problems for Russian military aviation in the sky over Ukraine.

Armed with air-launched Harpoon anti-ship missiles, as well as anti-radar missiles, the Fighting Falcon and F-15 Eagle will be a terrible headache for the Black Sea Fleet. The combat radius of American fighters plus the range of anti-ship missiles will allow the Air Force to control the entire Black Sea area. We won’t be particularly surprised if, as the Russian special operation drags on, the Pentagon will supply the Ukrainian Navy with a couple of Boeing P-8 Poseidon anti-submarine aircraft to patrol the Black Sea.

Well, in the sky over Ukraine itself, of course, it will become very hot. It’s not so easy to take out the F-16 and F-15 with experienced pilots in one gate, like the old Ukrainian fighters and attack aircraft, with the Russian Aerospace Forces.
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  1. +14
    18 July 2022 16: 22
    If Nikolaev and Ochakov are not taken by the fall of the RF Armed Forces, then Crimea, along with Yevpatoria and Simferopol, will most likely be shelled from new American missiles. It is quite possible that the States, by supplying new weapons to Kyiv, want to arrange for Russia a Vietnam, approximately the same as the USSR arranged for them, supplying new weapons to the Vietnamese. Therefore, in order to be calm in Crimea, the RF Armed Forces must definitely take Nikolaev and blockade Odessa from the north. Otherwise, events will develop similar to Vietnam or Korea.
    1. +1
      23 July 2022 12: 32
      The article word for word repeats the article by Strelkov / GirkinD, who published it in his TG.
  2. +9
    18 July 2022 16: 28
    If you call a spade a spade, then the collective West, with the help of just a few anti-ship systems, was able to drive the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation from the Ukrainian coast, keep Odessa behind it and achieve “voluntary” consent to the abandonment of possible Russian claims to the Black Sea region.

    Author!
    If you call a spade a spade, then you successfully manage to amuse the people.
    Odessa will be blocked from land and its value as a "transshipment port" is reset to zero.
    This is the first.

    Secondly, no one “chased” the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, because in the Black Sea, which is shot from the Crimea by the corresponding coastal missile systems “through” and “along-and-across” - there are no “drivers” from the word at all.

    Aren't you tired of gushing "analytics" like from a broken bilge tank?
    1. +3
      18 July 2022 16: 39
      F-16 and F-15 are no fun!
      1. +3
        18 July 2022 16: 57
        Quote from Mikhail L.
        F-16 and F-15 are no fun!

        These are not stealths, the aircraft of the previous generation, there is nothing supernatural in them.
        1. -3
          18 July 2022 18: 39
          They repeatedly shot down MiGs (not Russian), without suffering a single loss!
          1. +1
            19 July 2022 16: 17
            This is not at all an indicator of their high efficiency, and even more so of any superiority over the Su-30SM and Su-35, and if Ukrainian "aces" are also at their controls, then it will really be very dangerous.
        2. -2
          18 July 2022 20: 05
          Our planes are also not invisible, if anything
          1. +1
            19 July 2022 16: 10
            I didn’t mean that, they are simply excellently detected and also excellently shot down by our air defense systems, for the S-300 these are fairly light targets, I’m not talking about the S-400.
      2. +3
        19 July 2022 09: 58
        Mig29 analogues, which are now successfully losing the APU.
    2. -6
      18 July 2022 20: 06
      If you call a spade a spade, then you successfully manage to amuse the people.
      Odessa will be blocked from land and its value as a "transshipment port" is reset to zero.
      This is the first.

      Vitya, they explained to you in Russian that, most likely, no one will blockade Odessa and will not.
      But you didn't understand. Not mature. It happens.
      1. +4
        19 July 2022 11: 17
        Vitya, they explained to you in Russian that, most likely, no one will blockade Odessa and will not.
        But you didn't understand. Not mature. It happens.

        Who explained?
        1. -10
          19 July 2022 11: 30
          And here is another "guard" got out. smile
          1. +3
            19 July 2022 12: 09
            And here's another "guard" got out

            Did I ask a difficult question?
            So who explained?

            By the way, I always wanted to know: the antonym of "guardian" - what is the term?
      2. +7
        19 July 2022 11: 41
        Marzhetsky, Krapilin explained to you Russians in white that Odessa will be blocked from land. This is a classic! If you don’t get it the first time, I’ll help you explain quite simply. An offensive from the sea, even under the most favorable set of circumstances, makes it possible for the Nazis to receive help from the territory of Ukraine. And even, as a last resort, retreat to Ukraine. Not a single adequate military commander is likely to fall for such an adventure. Blocking from land will sooner or later go on the offensive and throw the Nazis into the sea. They will have nowhere to retreat and receive replenishment. Got it? I am sure I explained as simply as possible what Krapilin said. Knowing that it will be so, you are like hell - ... most likely they will not block Odessa. And not a statement, but a banal - most likely - analogue - highkey like, or whatever it is right. In short, "most likely" you are too far from military tactics and even further from military strategy!
      3. +7
        19 July 2022 12: 04
        Quote: Marzhetsky
        But you didn't understand. Not mature.

        Are you too starry and bronzed, Seryoga? Do you consider yourself the only "grown up" authority and indisputable analyst? Lower your nose a little lower, you pulled it up too high. From you constantly skip notes of contempt and disrespect for the users of the site.
        1. +3
          20 July 2022 11: 59
          Yes, in my opinion, this is the main alarmist here, when the special services already pay attention to him ....
    3. +6
      19 July 2022 11: 59
      Quote: Krapilin
      Aren't you tired of gushing "analytics" like from a broken bilge tank?

      In the "fountains" of Marzhetsky, defeatist, all-propal "jets" are increasingly visible
      1. +1
        20 July 2022 12: 00
        Well, he himself confirmed that of the gentry, whose descendants are now trying to yell against Russia from Poland, so I do not exclude that this is a Cossack sent here and working against Russia ...
  3. +4
    18 July 2022 16: 37
    The southern flank is particular.
    The war with NATO for the survival of the Russian Federation is not an easy walk!
  4. +6
    18 July 2022 16: 41
    Author!
    After cleaning up the Donbass from the ukrovermacht, the headache for "vna ukrainy" will be, like Buridan's donkey, between two options: defend the Black Sea region or defend Kyiv and Lvov.
    But this is still the father has not started anything yet ...

    Judging by the author's analytics - from article to article - "vna ukraine" is in his inflamed imagination an unrelenting pantry of resources, both human in the form of super professional fighters, and 100500 pieces of equipment per kilometer of the front.

    And in Russia - in the author's analytics - everything is over, both with the soldiers and with the equipment.
    1. +5
      18 July 2022 16: 45
      Underestimating the enemy - even without receiving fees - does not indicate competence!
      1. +3
        18 July 2022 17: 00
        Dear Mikhail L.!

        And from what does it follow that the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation underestimates the enemy represented by NATO and the United States? From the fantasies of the author of another article, "everything is lost"?

        So far, from all the articles of the author it follows that: the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are "suckers"; The President of the Russian Federation is ready to turn on the "back"; The Black Sea, through the fault of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, becomes an inland sea "for Ukraine" and other "nonsense" ...
        1. 0
          18 July 2022 18: 42
          Dear Krapilin (Victor),
          If you do not understand the address of the "underestimating" - I can not help.
          Unless, sympathize! ;-(
          1. +2
            18 July 2022 19: 16
            Dear Mikhail L.!
            You are right - I do not understand. Specify competently about the "underestimating" - do not take it for work ...
        2. -2
          18 July 2022 20: 46
          And from what does it follow that the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation underestimates the enemy represented by NATO and the United States? From the fantasies of the author of another article, "everything is lost"?

          Especially for the dull ones: this follows from the course of the NWO ...
          1. +3
            18 July 2022 21: 18
            Dear Vox Populi (Vox Populi)!

            Do you know the plan thoroughly and can confirm here and now your statement with the facts of how the plan of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation "does not go according to plan"?

            If you are so knowledgeable and understanding, please "enlighten" the dull and ignorant: both on this discussion platform and in the Kremlin, the Security Council, the State Duma, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, etc.
            1. +2
              19 July 2022 07: 50
              Is there anyone in Russia who knows this plan? Even if not in details (of course they can change), but at least at the level of the main tasks.
              1. +1
                19 July 2022 15: 18
                Is there anyone in Russia who knows this plan?

                I can only assume that, according to the plan of the Russian General Staff, the time has come to collect the lands of the Empire. Therefore, there are auctions and graters with international Masons.
              2. +2
                19 July 2022 15: 41
                There are in Russia, but I very much doubt that any of them are present here.
  5. -1
    18 July 2022 17: 11
    don’t overshadow everything like that, our army in this battle gains valuable combat experience and becomes stronger - we will achieve our goals, albeit not immediately, and at the cost of inevitable casualties, but we will achieve .......
    1. -3
      18 July 2022 20: 07
      There are no complaints about the army. If you give her a task, she will reach the Polish border.
      But she will not be given such a task. This is what the article is about.
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  7. +2
    18 July 2022 17: 28
    Because humanity! How disgusting it is when it is preached behind the backs of our soldiers.
  8. 0
    18 July 2022 17: 53
    An army of rams controlled by a lion - defeat an army of lions controlled by a ram

    (Eastern wisdom)

    ... The trouble with the Russian army is that it is now controlled by several "rams" ...
  9. 0
    18 July 2022 18: 12
    It will be a betrayal!
  10. +4
    18 July 2022 22: 11
    substitution of surrender by any other options will lead to the resumption of war in the near future and in conditions even worse than now. is to repeat the error of 14 years
  11. +4
    19 July 2022 06: 10
    Odessa and Kharkov - this is the bare minimum. Without it - a complete defeat. But there will be words of praise.
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  13. +1
    19 July 2022 09: 23
    The 1982 war of the year - in the first week of active hostilities alone, the Syrian Air Force destroyed at least five F-15s and six F-16s in air battles
  14. -2
    19 July 2022 11: 15
    I love "sketch" from Marzhetsky)))

    leaving the battlefield, alas, for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    And what military unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is currently stationed on Zmeiny Island?
    1. -5
      19 July 2022 11: 32
      I love "sketch" from Marzhetsky)))

      And I hate comments like yours with zero semantic load.

      And what military unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is currently stationed on Zmeiny Island?

      You distort. Although you probably do not understand what is meant? Have you thought about something else?
      1. +3
        19 July 2022 12: 07
        Well, if "the battlefield is left behind", what part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is now standing on this "battlefield"?

        The legitimate question is, right?
  15. +1
    19 July 2022 12: 34
    just the same, a feedback channel for the RF Ministry of Defense)!
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  17. +1
    19 July 2022 19: 00
    One "porridge" in the article. And "if" in the comments. It is very difficult for a simple reader to understand what they want. Lots of letters. Write your full name, who drowned the cruiser Moscow, who drowned the tugboat, etc., to make it clear.
  18. +4
    19 July 2022 19: 05
    I think you should let military experts talk about strategy, outcomes, operations... Your articles are unnecessarily panic-mongering. If you believe what you write, the Kyiv Nazis are close to taking Moscow.
    If you want to educate yourself, here is the site of a Russian military expert.
    http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/
    1. +2
      20 July 2022 12: 10
      I completely agree and support with both hands "for", there really are enough unfortunate experts who have not served a single day either in the Army or the Navy or anywhere else ... well, maybe only if they are now in the service of the West. ..
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  20. 0
    21 July 2022 15: 21
    This is exactly what will happen if we do not accelerate, and this requires partial mobilization and a declaration of war is possible, this should happen immediately if it arrives in the Crimea, over the bridge, or through our cities.
  21. +2
    22 July 2022 16: 29
    I don’t think that the author does not understand reality, rather he is trying to promote something, but he is afraid. This is evidenced by his distorted narratives. They left the snake only because the APU had long-range weapons. You can't put the lives of 250 soldiers at risk. Yes, and it can be perfectly controlled with the help of aviation. Kresser Moscow was not sunk, as some stupid figures are trying to teach, supposedly his radar did not work. Therefore, he did not repel the attack. The square head does not allow us to understand that this class of ship has more than one radar, at least four of them, several harpoon-class missiles will not sink it, but missiles will be shot down. There is no point in explaining that Moscow did not have a fire extinguishing system installed, etc. Many copies have already been broken about this. After modernization, Moscow had several problems with fires. Once, the PSU almost detonated as well. The whole article is solid speculation of the author and pouring shit on our fleet, yes there are problems, that's what you need to write about, and not all nonsense.
  22. 0
    23 July 2022 04: 39
    Serpent's Island will not hold any fleet of the world.
  23. +2
    23 July 2022 12: 32
    It is interesting that all the articles of Marzhetsky repeat word for word the articles of Strelkov / GirkinDa
  24. +1
    24 July 2022 13: 11
    Leaving the Black Sea region in the clutches of Ukraine is a betrayal, comparable to the failure to take the empty Mariupol in 2014.
  25. -1
    9 September 2022 19: 47
    It seems that there are no commanders like Zhukov, Rokossovsky ... in the Russian army!