An aviation expert explained why the Russian Armed Forces continue to shoot down Ukrainian aircraft six months after the start of the JMD


Russian troops in the course of a special operation continue to destroy aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports about 6-8 affected sides weekly. At the same time, Ukrainian aviation retains a certain potential almost six months after the start of hostilities.


According to an aviation expert, the author of the Fighterbomber telegram channel, judging by the number of destroyed aircraft and air defense systems, in the early days of the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Air Force was able to save most of its fleet.

On February 24, a near-zero number of serviceable aircraft was destroyed at enemy airfields, which, in turn, once again confirms the assumption that the Ukrainians were well aware of the day and hour of the start of the special operation

- noted the analyst.

Thus, legitimate questions arise about how Kyiv could have known in advance about upcoming events, why Moscow did not correct its actions in this case, whether other types of troops and weapons were withdrawn from the strike of the RF Armed Forces, and what was the real effectiveness of the first strike of Russian divisions.

Meanwhile, the day before, a group of Russian hackers RaHDit unveiled data on approximately 2,5 thousand citizens of the Russian Federation working for the Ukrainian intelligence services. One of the group members, on condition of anonymity through the media, advised these people to voluntarily surrender.
  • Photos used: press service of the President of Ukraine
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  1. kalita Online kalita
    kalita (Alexander) 18 July 2022 14: 33
    +1
    Begins. Khokhols received planes from all European countries.
    1. syndicalist Offline syndicalist
      syndicalist (Dimon) 19 July 2022 08: 16
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      Yes, there were negotiations with the Bulgarians and Poles about the transfer of dryers and one moment, which so far ended in nothing. The rest of the countries simply do not have Soviet aircraft.
      Now the truth has begun to talk about the transfer of F15 F16. When this will actually happen is hard to say.
  2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 18 July 2022 14: 40
    +3
    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports about 6-8 affected sides weekly.

    But they never spoke about airfields, as if they did not need to be destroyed. Well, the fact that the SVO began without thinking it through, or a betrayal took place, is already understood by many.
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 18 July 2022 15: 24
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      Quote: steel maker
      betrayal has taken place

      We will never be re-educated! And your post is a clear confirmation of this. Read M. Bulgakov. In his "Heart of a Dog" it is intelligibly told where the devastation is located. Stop looking for enemies. And enough trivial bungling to call betrayal.
    2. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
      Piramidon (Stepan) 19 July 2022 10: 33
      -2
      Quote: steel maker
      But they never spoke about airfields, as if they did not need to be destroyed

      What do you mean by "destruction of airfields"? Repair of the runway takes a couple of days and the airfield is ready for operation again. So it's a waste of expensive rockets.
    3. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 19 July 2022 14: 31
      -2
      steelmaker. The Americans bombed everything around the concentration camps, but they never hit the plants and factories where the prisoners worked, for the reason that part of the shares of the plants and factories belonged to the Americans and the naglitsy. It was considered property that could not be bombed. They didn't even bomb the concentration camps owned by the SS. Can shares of airfields belong to Russian oligarchs? You will bomb such an airfield and then until the end of your life, that you yourself, that the children will be slaves to this gang.
  3. Ion Offline Ion
    Ion (Popescu Ion) 18 July 2022 15: 29
    -1
    Maybe if the full details were made available to the public, it would be easier to get the right picture.
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 18 July 2022 15: 50
      +1
      "Friendly fire" in war is by no means uncommon. You can look for examples yourself in tyrnets and books on the history of wars. Of course, each such case should be thoroughly investigated, but no one has yet succeeded in completely excluding such cases (even in spite of the "friend or foe" systems being introduced everywhere).
    2. Patrick laforet Offline Patrick laforet
      Patrick laforet (Patrick Laforet) 18 July 2022 17: 34
      +2
      I'm not sure if it's a Russian fighter. Why are some parts of the Russian plane painted blue, the color of the Kyiv Air Force?
      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 18 July 2022 18: 47
        +2
        Don't write more nonsense. War is not an air show. According to your logic, Russian military aviation should be in the tricolor palette? And the Americans - in stripes with a star on their foreheads? And how, in this case, to distinguish a Swedish plane from a Ukrainian one? Urya-patriotism is already starting to go off scale.
        https://rostec.ru/news/vozdushnyy-kamuflyazh-kak-i-v-kakie-tsveta-krasyat-samolety/
      2. zloybond Offline zloybond
        zloybond (steppenwolf) 18 July 2022 22: 38
        +3
        This is a reality - just all the previous time from the sofas they were cheerfully talking about 3 maize and 5 hang gliders remaining in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In fact, they didn't waste any time either.
        -It's like the same thing - Europe and Ukraine are running out of weapons - but at the same time they are driving weapons to Ukraine in wagons, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are actively hammering at civilian objects, not counting shells.
        - It is stupid to rejoice at empty words about empty warehouses - in reality, the warehouses are not even empty, judging by the generous shelling of cities and towns by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Screams only to the public. And they still have good stocks.
      3. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
        Piramidon (Stepan) 19 July 2022 10: 34
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        Quote from Patrick Laforet
        I'm not sure if it's a Russian fighter.

        And who said that in the picture is a Russian plane?
  4. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 18 July 2022 15: 31
    +2
    It was necessary to start with crushing blows on the highest power infrastructure, on the main headquarters, airfields, transport hubs, bridges, means of communication and control. And here, the Russian leadership, they wanted to be kind, they decided to wear white gloves. Now let's dig..
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 18 July 2022 15: 46
      -1
      Quote: Cooper
      Should have started

      It was necessary to start back in 2014, when the statehood of Ukraine was practically destroyed, when the army was demoralized, when tens of millions of people loyal to it were waiting for Russia. And if they started now, then it was necessary to start with a game of peepers, wait for Kyiv to strike, so that the same West would not have the slightest reason to accuse Russia of aggression. Of course, the West would not help us in this case either, but at least it would not interfere (at least openly).
      1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
        Pat Rick 18 July 2022 21: 41
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        wait for Kyiv to strike, so that the same West does not have the slightest reason to accuse Russia of aggression.

        If you wait for Kyiv to strike, then you could find yourself in the position of the USSR after June 22, and Putin did not want to repeat the mistakes of Stalin, who relied on the Non-Aggression Pact and the Friendship Treaty.
        1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
          k7k8 (vic) 18 July 2022 22: 18
          +2
          Quote from Pat-Rick
          the mistakes of Stalin, who relied on the Non-Aggression Pact and the Treaty of Friendship

          Why are you repeating myths born by pseudo-historians. Stalin was, despite all his shortcomings, a hardened realist and pragmatist (unlike the revolutionary romantic Trotsky). He knew perfectly well that there would be a war, but in every possible way he delayed its beginning, desperately trying to buy the time that was so necessary for the rearmament and total restructuring of the army to begin, at least until 1942. It was precisely this goal that the signing of the Non-Aggression Pact served (by the way, the USSR signed an agreement with the Reich the last of the European countries after the failure of all attempts to create a European anti-Hitler coalition). That is why he most severely demanded compliance with all its provisions, so as not to provoke Germany. Up to the point that for the word "fascist" it was possible to thunder on the bunk. Up to the point that the last echelons with supplies under the agreement crossed the border towards Germany on the night of the attack on the USSR. There is much more to write about this, but I hope you yourself can find the facts confirming this.
          1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
            Pat Rick 18 July 2022 22: 41
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            I did not discover anything new in your post.
            It is a pity that you did not understand the main thing: I am writing about contemporary Putin and his dilemma in the situation with Ukraine, and not about the pre-war policy of the USSR.
            1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
              k7k8 (vic) 19 July 2022 10: 08
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              Quote from Pat-Rick
              I am writing about modern Putin

              You directly compare Putin and Stalin. You directly compare their actions and mistakes. There is only one difference between their actions - Stalin did not have enough time to rearm in 1941, and Putin did not have the courage (although there were all the possibilities for this, including the permission of the State Duma to use the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation outside the country) to resolve the Ukrainian issue in 2014 .
              1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
                Pat Rick 19 July 2022 12: 33
                +1
                In 2014, the Russian army was in a semi-disassembled state, there were not as many modern weapons as now. If at 08 they managed with difficulty with Georgia, then at 14 Ukraine would have been too tough at all.

                Some say that courage was not enough, others say that caution prevailed.
                1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
                  k7k8 (vic) 19 July 2022 16: 41
                  -1
                  Quote from Pat-Rick
                  If in 08 they managed with difficulty with Georgia

                  I beg of you! For half a day - is it difficult?
      2. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
        Piramidon (Stepan) 19 July 2022 10: 36
        +1
        Quote: k7k8
        Of course, the West would not help us in this case, but at least it would not interfere

        Reasoning of a naive Chukchi boy.
        1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
          k7k8 (vic) 19 July 2022 10: 46
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          Quote: Piramidon
          Reasoning of a naive Chukchi boy.

          Let's pretend that your insult was not there.
          You should not learn jingoistic chants by heart, but at least read something more serious than comics (yes, comics are read, not watched). Then you would know that the creation of an anti-Hitler coalition would have been impossible in principle if Stalin, knowing about Germany’s military preparations, had launched a preemptive strike (in the current realities, he would have launched a NVO). And the entire "civilized" West with a clear conscience would form another anti-Soviet coalition.
          1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
            Pat Rick 19 July 2022 12: 36
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            Then would did you know that the creation of the anti-Hitler coalition was would basically impossible if would Stalin, knowing about the military preparations of Germany, launched a preemptive strike (in the current realities, began would SVO). And the entire "civilized" West with a clear conscience formed would another anti-Soviet coalition.

            Too many "would" particles. Historians claim:
            "History has no subjunctive mood." It was the way it was.
            And the point.
            1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
              k7k8 (vic) 19 July 2022 16: 47
              -1
              Quote from Pat-Rick
              It was as it was.
              And the point.

              You're right. But history exists in order to learn from the mistakes of one's own and those of others. And learning without an analysis of what was and what could be is impossible. So, the particle "would" is quite appropriate. I hope you understand this.
              1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
                Pat Rick 19 July 2022 17: 23
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                Sorry, but what university did you study this very history at?
                1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
                  k7k8 (vic) 19 July 2022 17: 55
                  -1
                  Not in Soros, which you undoubtedly graduated with honors.
                  1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
                    Pat Rick 19 July 2022 18: 25
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                    Your translation of the arrows again betrays your illiteracy in matters of history.

                    ... and what university did you study this very history at?

                    At the University of Marxism-Leninism at the garrison House of Officers. Congratulations!
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                    2. k7k8 Offline k7k8
                      k7k8 (vic) 19 July 2022 23: 42
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                      Quote from Pat-Rick
                      At the University of Marxism-Leninism at the garrison House of Officers

                      That's it. And you brag about it? The history of the CPSU had practically nothing in common with history as a science.
                      1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
                        Pat Rick 20 July 2022 11: 28
                        0
                        Your UML, a retired (general) major of the Strategic Missile Forces, is imprinted on your forehead, just below the cap mark.
  5. Anton Sheremetev (Anton Sheremetev) 18 July 2022 15: 34
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    Quote: Cooper
    It was necessary to start with crushing blows on the highest power infrastructure, on the main headquarters, airfields, transport hubs, bridges, means of communication and control. And here, the Russian leadership, they wanted to be kind, they decided to wear white gloves. Now let's dig..

    being up to his ears in shit to smell like roses. Everything as usual
  6. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 18 July 2022 15: 53
    0
    The unforgettable V. Vysotsky also has this: "I hate gossip in the form of versions"!
    Anything can be assumed.
    Even the fact that the "expert" handed over information about the beginning of the NWO to the enemy, and now intends to avert suspicion from himself!
    1. sat2004 Offline sat2004
      sat2004 18 July 2022 17: 34
      -1
      And for whom was the secret after the meeting with stuttering. Most likely, Western intelligence knew the time of the start of the operation. You saw how many "respected" Russians went over the hill. Incomprehensible disappointment. Remember, our intelligence reported 4 am on June 22. Learn history, there will be fewer disappointments.
      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 18 July 2022 18: 53
        +2
        It is advisable not to mix horses and people together
  7. Neville Stator Offline Neville Stator
    Neville Stator (Neville Stator) 18 July 2022 17: 46
    +3
    With Russia's air potential, it doesn't matter if they were destroyed in the first place. The question is, does he have air supremacy and if not, what is the reason?
  8. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
    Pat Rick 18 July 2022 21: 37
    +1
    Khokhols were being prepared long before February 24th.
    They took inventory of everything they had left of the USSR. Repairable or repaired themselves, or taken to the repair of Bulgaria, Romania, Poland. Several dozen aircraft were also transferred there in advance. From there, they bought or accepted as a gift a certain amount of old junk that can still fly. This is how it pops up in different places.
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 19 July 2022 16: 48
      -1
      Quote from Pat-Rick
      Khokhols were preparing long before February 24

      Ah, what good fellows crests! And the Russians, made with a finger, sat and picked their noses. That's all your logic!
  9. opportunist Offline opportunist
    opportunist (dim) 19 July 2022 08: 26
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    Ukraine received a large number of Soviet-style combat aircraft from the former Warsaw Pact countries. I doubt that Ukrainian pilots fly these aircraft
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 19 July 2022 10: 09
      -1
      Quote: opportunist
      I doubt that Ukrainian pilots fly these planes

      I wonder what then?
    2. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
      Kristallovich (Ruslan) 19 July 2022 12: 26
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      An interesting statement. Will there be evidence?
      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 19 July 2022 16: 50
        -1
        Quote: Kristallovich
        Will there be evidence?

        And what for? The main thing is to crow. And there at least do not dawn!
  10. Moskal 55 Offline Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 19 July 2022 10: 31
    +1
    Not 6-8 daily, but every other day, most often they shoot down one, less often two, very rarely three. They can take off in Poland, they could fix old and decommissioned ones. There were a lot of Soviet weapons in the Warsaw Pact countries. Well, what about betrayal, etc. after we all surrendered our USSR, to say ...
    1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
      Kristallovich (Ruslan) 19 July 2022 12: 26
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      Not 6-8 daily, but every other day

      The text is written weekly. Read carefully.
    2. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 19 July 2022 14: 40
      -2
      Moskal 55. They write here that it was necessary to first kill everyone from the vertical circulation. But you can't do it. After all, as far as it was written in the Russian media, Stalin forbade killing Hitler after the meeting between him and Hitler in Lvov in 1943. He, as it is written, even wanted to surrender to Hitler, but Hitler refused, and this was after the Red Army, in spite of Stalin, beat the Nazis and Bandera in the tail and mane. The American British forbade Hitler to seize the USSR and make peace with the USSR. Hitler had to surrender after complete annihilation and also after complete suicide. He was given an old ampoule of cyanide, which was inactive, and a pistol with a crooked barrel. It is interesting to read that the Rusinform Bureau does not lag behind the Ukrinform Bureau and even steps on their heels. It's so interesting how the song of the 60s in Sverdlovsk - relatives sleep toads for them, dream ... I don’t remember further, but the Sverdlovsk recruits of those years should know this song. Sing the rest, please!
      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 19 July 2022 16: 51
        +1
        Quote: zenion
        Stalin forbade killing Hitler after the meeting between him and Hitler in Lvov

        Then you can not read
  11. assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
    assault 2019 (assault 2019) 22 July 2022 12: 19
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    Let him better explain why his Su-35 was shot down?