"Southern Corridor": why the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov de jure can remain Ukrainian

"Southern Corridor": why the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov de jure can remain Ukrainian

We continue the series of articles on how the special military operation in Ukraine could end. And its results may turn out to be somewhat different than what most Russians would like, with the exception of the so-called liberda, and adequate Ukrainians, who have been waiting for 8 years for help in liberation from the post-Maidan criminal regime in Kyiv.


Russian "Fantasy" - 2025


Just a few years ago, we made a rather pessimistic long-term forecast possible development of further events for the period from autumn 2022 to 2027, which some skeptical readers called "fantasy". Alas, but its first points are already beginning to come true. Let us recall some of the key theses around which this long-term forecast was built.

The sequence of events may be as follows. After the liberation of the entire territory of the DPR and LPR within their constitutional borders, President Putin makes another “goodwill gesture” in a row, offering Kyiv and its Western curators reconciliation on some compromise conditions that can hardly be passed off to the Russians as a “overcome”. Since the heating season is on the nose in Europe, active hostilities are suspended, however, the terror by the Armed Forces of Ukraine against the Russian border regions and the already liberated former Ukrainian ones, of course, continues. Kyiv, with the help of the NATO bloc, begins to rearm and train a million-strong army for revenge and build new powerful fortified areas in southern and central Ukraine.

At the same time, in Russia, irritation and misunderstanding began to grow in society due to the stoppage of offensive operations. Allied forces are not going to any Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Odessa with Kyiv and Lvov. All those who call to finish off Zelensky’s criminal regime are branded by the media and “guardians” as provocateurs and agents of the State Department, urging them to take a machine gun in their teeth and go to liberate Kyiv. Talk about joining the DPR and LPR to the Russian Federation remains just talk. Moreover, the Sea of ​​Azov also finds itself in a gray zone, the holding of referendums in the Kherson and southern Zaporozhye regions is postponed under plausible pretexts for an indefinite period. In 2024, for the first time, Vladimir Putin does not get enough votes for a landslide victory in the first round and goes to the second. If, however, some “wizards” try to influence the outcome, then with a probability of 146%, events similar to Belomaidan in 2020 will occur in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

And so on, until the resumption in 2025 of a large-scale war with Ukraine and the entry into it of the NATO bloc, which by that time will get rid of critical energy dependence on Russia, and then Japan will join in, taking the “northern territories” from the country where internal confusion reigns and wobbles. We talk about all this in detail. reasoned previously. Do not like to read such "fantasy"? Unpleasant, right?

"Southern Corridor"


Now back to our sinful reality. The close attention of the author of these lines was attracted by a recent statement by the former head of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Ukraine and ex-adviser to the President of the country Mykola Malomuzh, where he spoke about some of the nuances of "Putin's ultimatum":

Putin wants to declare the status quo: about the completely liberated Donetsk and Lugansk regions, about the Southern corridor, which he will “finish off” further and set conditions for peace negotiations, but taking into account their conditions….

Putin's ultimatum is this: either in the next one and a half to two weeks, we [Russia] will launch a large-scale offensive against Donetsk, increase pressure on Kharkov and the south, or negotiate on our terms.

What are the key points here? This, of course, is the very fact of Putin's ultimatum, "peace negotiations", the demand for them through blackmail by an offensive, as well as a certain "Southern Corridor". Here I would like to dwell on this in a little more detail.

In fact, the liberation of Odessa, Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, Kyiv, Kirovograd, Poltava, Chernihiv, Sumy and other cities from the power of the criminal Nazi regime is not an end in itself of a special operation. This is just a means of blackmail in order to sit down with the Ukrainian Nazis at the negotiating table and convince them to voluntarily denazify and demilitarize. Funny? No, it’s not funny at all, because they are “pushing” all this to us in all seriousness. Separately, it is necessary to say a few words about the words “Southern Corridor” and “status quo” that resonated with the ear.

What is the Southern Corridor? Obviously, it means Kherson and the south of Zaporozhye regions, which are a land transport corridor to the Crimea. That's just why the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov is now called that? If a nationwide referendum is held there and these regions join the Russian Federation as new subjects, then why is this dissonant name needed at all and why coordinate its “status quo” with Kyiv? It seems that in the case of Crimea, the Kremlin did not care about the opinion of the Ukrainian partners. Or is this another case?

I really want to make a mistake, but from the outside it looks exactly as we predicted: no one is going to officially annex the Azov region to the Russian Federation, and this region is destined to hang indefinitely in the gray zone, neither here nor there. It cannot be given back, since Crimea will then be left without water and hang on a thin thread of the Crimean bridge, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine can destroy at any moment with a missile strike. If you take it for yourself, the population will ask why they didn’t take Kharkiv, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Odessa and Dnepropetrovsk then? The "southern corridor" in combination with the wording "status quo" may mean that the Azov region remains legally Ukrainian, but in fact - Russian. Poor people...

And this is what we can really get as a result of a special military operation. How do you like this "fantasy", which is already beginning to come true?
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  1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 18 July 2022 13: 05
    +5
    At the same time, in Russia, irritation and misunderstanding began to grow in society due to the stoppage of offensive operations. Allied forces are not going to any Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Odessa with Kyiv and Lvov.

    Author!
    And why go for them now, leaving in the Donbass, that is, behind the back, the most combat-ready units of the ukrovermacht?
    I'm not tired of imagining myself for the entire General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

    It is from the sofa in an embrace with the keyboard that you can walk victorious campaigns around the earth's steam a couple of times a day.
    There is a war, the author, there they shoot and kill. And our allied forces are utilizing the ukrovermacht with artillery, saving the lives of their soldiers and officers as much as possible. And slowly move forward.

    Where to hurry? Finish in the Donbass - continue on. If there is a personal desire to speed up, then the rifle in hand and forward, so to speak, to show a “master class” on the ground, and not at the keyboard.

    V.S. Vysotsky very accurately said about people like the author: “... And what about a rifle for you ...?! And send you into battle?!...?”.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 13: 29
      -8
      Author!
      And why go for them now, leaving in the Donbass, that is, behind the back, the most combat-ready units of the ukrovermacht?
      I'm not tired of imagining myself for the entire General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

      And don't ascribe to me what I didn't write, Vitya.
      The article is generally about something else, but you are clearly not able to understand this.

      If there is a personal desire to speed up, then the rifle in hand and forward, so to speak, to show a “master class” on the ground, and not at the keyboard.

      You would be there, but all the experts, analysts, predictors to add to the reinforcement.
      P.S. from the text of the article:

      All those who call to finish off Zelensky’s criminal regime are branded by the media and “guardians” as provocateurs and agents of the State Department, urging them to take a machine gun in their teeth and go to liberate Kyiv.
  2. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 18 July 2022 13: 39
    +7
    After the liberation of the entire territory of the DPR and LPR within their constitutional boundaries, President Putin makes another “goodwill gesture” in a row, offering peace to Kyiv and its Western curators

    Putin will not agree to this. Then the meaning of the whole operation is lost. It turns out that we just pushed the borders a little and moved them from the south of the country, and not from Moscow. Russia has spent and is spending billions of dollars on this operation. Tens of thousands of deaths of Russian soldiers, a "sea" of dead equipment. Mandatory restoration of the destroyed infrastructure, received world sanctions in all areas... And all for the sake of one Donbass? Nonsense. Disproportionate fee for two areas. I hope the main goal of Putin, at least the return of all the lands donated by the communists in the Civil War to Ukraine.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 15: 26
      -3
      Putin will not agree to this. Then the meaning of the whole operation is lost. It turns out that we just pushed the borders a little and moved them from the south of the country, and not from Moscow. Russia has spent and is spending billions of dollars on this operation. Tens of thousands of deaths of Russian soldiers, a "sea" of dead equipment. Mandatory restoration of the destroyed infrastructure, received world sanctions in all areas... And all for the sake of one Donbass? Nonsense. Disproportionate fee for two areas.

      Yes, nonsense. That is why this is a very likely scenario.
    2. LeeSeeTsin Offline LeeSeeTsin
      LeeSeeTsin (Stas) 19 July 2022 23: 47
      -1
      The meaning of the operation was lost even near Kyiv. The original plan failed. Now the options work. But under these conditions, the reflections in the article have every right to exist.
  3. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 18 July 2022 13: 44
    +6
    Everyone is waiting for the beginning of autumn, when it will be clear whether the parts of Ukraine not occupied by Russia will survive the winter? The West is unable to feed the remaining Ukrainian people. We don't have enough.
    How will the new grain crop be harvested in Ukraine? What will happen to fuel?
    Maybe that's why Russia is not yet in a hurry to seize the whole of Ukraine, when it will have to feed the disloyal population holding a knife behind its back? Hunger and cold perfectly activate the brains and then it will become clear what the people in the territory not controlled by Russia will be ready for.
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 18 July 2022 14: 25
      -1
      I think that they will survive with the help of the West, this is from the same opera as in 2014 they said that the outskirts would die without gas, but there was gas and the outskirts were not allowed to die, by the way, Putin himself helped her in this, since all the sanctions imposed by the Kremlin against the outskirts , were fiction
      1. People Offline People
        People (Alexander) 18 July 2022 17: 33
        -5
        nuVORmshi., Helped and help, for them the main thing is them! Gesheft, and Putin, their puppet, they have no decree.
  4. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 18 July 2022 14: 22
    +6
    I think 50 to 50. Kharkiv should be taken anyway. In order for the shelling of the LDNR to stop, the border must be moved back 300 km, and this is the border, everything must be moved beyond Dnepropetrovsk. A land corridor to Transnistria is a must. It is necessary to be completely hit by the head in order to leave the sea to Ukraine. But Putin does not plan to reach the border with Poland, yet. Although, the fact that Putin did not outline the specific goals of the NWO, any betrayal is possible.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 15: 41
      -5
      In order for the shelling of the LDNR to stop, the border must be moved back 300 km, and this is the border, everything must be moved beyond Dnepropetrovsk.

      And what was moved to the west is moving towards us. So?
      But after all, from there, even further west, it will still fly in, right? request
      1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
        steelmaker 19 July 2022 19: 18
        +3
        will still fly

        Yes, it will fly as long as Ukraine with the current government will exist. Your forecast is very realistic, but you forgot about Putin's entourage. And judging by the latest statements of the deputies of the State Duma and the Federation Council, this scenario does not suit them. Yes, and Medvedev talked about something, even "you can obey" if you do not know his essence. In general, we must wait for the complete liberation of Donbass and then everything will be clear.
  5. Oleg Dmitriev Offline Oleg Dmitriev
    Oleg Dmitriev (Oleg Dmitriev) 18 July 2022 14: 59
    +1
    We must understand that with such a territory as Ukraine, if we take it entirely at one time, we can choke. This elephant needs to be eaten piece by piece. This year - Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkiv, Kherson, Zaporozhye. If you have enough strength - Nikolaev with Odessa. The next one is Dnepropetrovsk, Krivoy Rog, Poltava, Sumy and Chernihiv. We fight until the snow, during the winter we integrate the liberated territories, clean up, hold referendums. In the spring we move on. IMHO, of course...
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 15: 39
      -2
      The next one is Dnepropetrovsk, Krivoy Rog, Poltava, Sumy and Chernihiv. We fight until the snow, during the winter we integrate the liberated territories, clean up, hold referendums. In the spring we move on. IMHO, of course...

      And every time we go to new fortified areas. And we get an answer with more and more heavy weapons. good
    2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 18 July 2022 19: 24
      +3
      Quote: Oleg Dmitriev
      This elephant needs to be eaten piece by piece.

      you need to release everything at once, and then attach it really piece by piece .... it's a great honor to be annexed to the Russian Federation, and not be in the status of small states dependent on the Russian Federation .....
  6. Griffith Offline Griffith
    Griffith (Oleg) 18 July 2022 15: 13
    +6
    The author is clearly overheated brains. For some reason, he drowns for the victory of Ukraine, forgetting that this can only happen with its reliable rear. But I can also tell fantasy. In view of the rise in the price of food and energy, hunger will begin in Europe in 2023. Coupled with the influx of emigrants from Africa and Asia, refugees from Ukraine in 2023 in Europe, crowds of hungry people start pogroms everywhere, in places turning into hostilities (no wonder the dill makes grandmas in service). In 2024, the European Union collapses, the countries of Europe begin to figure out which of them is more important, while blacks and Islamists demand a new Caliphate for themselves. There is no money for Ukraine to pump up weapons, they themselves do not have enough. In 2025, the New History of the European Caliphate begins. The remnants of the white people seek refuge. Who is in the USA, who is in Russia. The population of Russia becomes 300 million. There is a war in Europe. In the former Ukraine, gangs terrorize the poor. How is fantasy.
  7. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 15: 25
    -6
    Quote: Griffit
    But I can also tell fantasy. In view of the rise in the price of food and energy, hunger will begin in Europe in 2023. Coupled with the influx of emigrants from Africa and Asia, refugees from Ukraine in 2023 in Europe, crowds of hungry people start pogroms everywhere, in places turning into hostilities (no wonder the dill makes grandmas in service). In 2024, the European Union collapses, the countries of Europe begin to figure out which of them is more important, while blacks and Islamists demand a new Caliphate for themselves. There is no money for Ukraine to pump up weapons, they themselves do not have enough. In 2025, the New History of the European Caliphate begins. The remnants of the white people seek refuge. Who is in the USA, who is in Russia. The population of Russia becomes 300 million. There is a war in Europe. In the former Ukraine, gangs terrorize the poor. How is fantasy.

    This is really a fantasy of a person with brains overheated by jingoistic propaganda. hi
    1. Griffith Offline Griffith
      Griffith (Oleg) 18 July 2022 15: 32
      +2
      This fantasy is no different from what is written in the article. I would advise you to ask Baba Vanga, but unfortunately, she has already died.
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 15: 36
        -12
        I don't need anyone's advice. My predictions come true all too often.
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          1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
            Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 20: 02
            -6
            Yes, I am of Polish gentry blood, if anything. hi
        2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 18 July 2022 19: 27
          -1
          Quote: Marzhetsky
          I don't need nobody's advice

          you have very smart articles, but there are also mistakes (if you do not agree with me on something, then you are clearly mistaken) and this is not some kind of fact, but the real truth! despite your hypertrophied HR, you need my advice on the theme of the fleet and then everything will be in chocolate
          1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
            Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 20: 02
            -7
            The fact is that my FHR is completely justified, unlike many other people. smile
            And so, do not be offended by me, Vladimir, if anything. I see that you are not from evil, unlike some.
            1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
              Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 18 July 2022 23: 42
              -1
              Quote: Marzhetsky
              And so, do not be offended by me, Vladimir, if anything. I see that you are not from evil, unlike some.

              thank you, I really worry about the fleet, and therefore I defend my position, and I see that you are worried about the country, I hope we will all achieve the right positions in the information space and, as a result, the higher ones will understand this
  8. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 18 July 2022 15: 29
    -4
    It seems that the author expresses the position of many of our representatives of the authorities, which they do not want to voice. If only we could win and scare us so that the adversaries would return our bills and villas. And what will happen to the territory of Ukraine is not so important at all. They don't need her.
    1. Griffith Offline Griffith
      Griffith (Oleg) 18 July 2022 15: 36
      +5
      Government officials are the same everywhere. What is in Russia, what is in Europe. And on occasion, they will sell their own mother in order to survive. It is for this that special services exist, in order to keep those in power in check. And so it will always be. Because power corrupts. Such is the nature of man.
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 15: 37
      -6
      What nonsense. On the contrary, I am trying, to the extent of my modest possibilities, to appeal to the "power tower" as opposed to the "liberal one".
      P.S. I personally need Ukraine.
    3. Griffith Offline Griffith
      Griffith (Oleg) 18 July 2022 15: 38
      0
      In history, a bunch of surnames are known, whose representatives served different masters and states at different times. And so it will always be.
  9. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 18 July 2022 15: 32
    +6
    the author again drowns everything is gone, his HR is so great that he is smarter than not only me, a sinner, but also Putin and the General Staff of the Russian Federation ... firstly, no one cares about the status at all if there is the power of the Russian Federation or the power of the DPR, and in Kharkov the LPR, in second, Klishas said that we would reach the border with Poland, ..... in general, there is no need for universal

    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 15: 37
      -9
      the author again drowns everything is gone, his CSF is so great that he is smarter than not only me, a sinner

      Undoubtedly, I am smarter than you, Vladimir. hi As for everything else, I'll refrain.

      secondly, Klishas said that we would reach the border with Poland

      Clishas? And what's next?
      PS
      If we do get there, I'll be happy.
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 20 July 2022 20: 37
        +1
        Marzhetsky, what is your criterion for cleverness? What is its essence? According to the original meaning - a criterion, this is the decision of something on the basis or evaluation of something. That is, the measure. Cleverness is the opposite of stupidity. Smart-stupid. However, any criterion cannot but be based on analytics. The concept is similar to the criterion, but the presence of "smartness" does not generate a smart one, but a smart guy, (carries a negative meaning, if you are not aware) that is a distortion of the original premises based on the preferences of the smart guy himself. That is, if a wise guy prefers to see black in white, then white becomes black for him. What he is trying to convince others. And this is not a symptom, but a diagnosis! Can Marzhetsky be condemned for this? Because he sees reality in a distorted light? Probably not. Distorted consciousness sees normality distorted. It is impossible, in fact, to condemn a color-blind person in that he claims that the whole world around him is in black and white? And no one can convince him that he is colored. Color blindness is a physical flaw, in relation to Marzhetsky it is a political flaw.
  10. Starik-an Offline Starik-an
    Starik-an (Andrey Vygorko) 18 July 2022 15: 39
    +12
    The article is a clear stuffing, a manipulation on the wandering moods of Russians. It's no secret that a fairly large part of Russians are afraid of any "negotiations" and agreements, such as Khasavyurt. The article presents this option as natural. Type: "do not go to the grandmother." The author cannot know the true plans. But the leadership of Russia is well aware of the mood of the citizens of Russia, they know that the people will not tolerate another betrayal, as in Khasavyurt. The army will not tolerate it either. So why shoot yourself in the head?
    Let's support the GDP, the army, let's wait and see.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 15: 44
      -6
      The article is a clear stuffing, a manipulation on the wandering moods of Russians. It's no secret that a fairly large part of Russians are afraid of any "negotiations" and agreements, such as Khasavyurt. The article presents this option as natural. Type: "do not go to the grandmother."

      So, maybe there is no need to merge the conquests and turn the NWO into a farce?

      Let's support the GDP, the army, let's wait and see.

      Well, that's what we support. As we advance. And what will you do yourself if the NWO is stopped?
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 18 July 2022 23: 03
      +5
      Old man, what do you even know about the true goals of Khasavyurt, except for negativity, betrayal and other liberal nonsense? Just in case, I’ll help a little and remind you if you knew or I’ll tell you how it really was, if you didn’t know. The appearance of Akhmat Kadyrov on the political arena of Chechnya is an unconditional consequence of these same negotiations. In fact, Kadyrov became Putin's henchman. Strange, like a choice-decision, given the statements of Kadyrov himself earlier - If one Chechen kills 150 Russians, then we will defeat Russia. And how is Chechnya prospering now? And if you consider that its armed formations are fighting with our troops in Ukraine, then whether you like it or not, this is all a consequence of those same Khasavyrt agreements. Everything is known by the end result, or - The big is seen at a distance. So either study the difficult situation in the Caucasus at that time, or don’t say what you don’t know thoroughly! Kadyrov essentially stopped the war, held a referendum on the republic's entry into the Russian Federation, for which he paid with his life. But he managed to bring up a worthy replacement for himself - Ramzan. There would be no Khasavyurt, there would be no Akhmat, there would be no Ramzan.
    3. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 19 July 2022 13: 29
      0
      Starik an. Still, you are naive. They forgot how people were led by the nose that they would live even better after perestroika. It turned out that the USSR collapsed, that is, the boss of the current boss ruined the country and Russia was left alone against those who were pissed off. Let everyone grab what they can grab. Remember how the special operation began and under what slogan - to clean Ukraine from the Nazis, Nazis, Bandera. Now it suddenly turned out that something that is happening is a guerrilla war, and not a war of two countries, where armies are used about which you cannot say that these are partisan detachments. At the beginning of all this, the special operation did not assume that other countries would come to the rescue, and this would be a walk through Ukraine. Or maybe it turned out like during perestroika, it will be even better if it happens. Two armies of countries with a feudal system of government are fighting among themselves. One says we will free ourselves and we will live and shelled the Donbass and Lugansk. Another country says that in ten years the Russians will live, if not well, then better. But there is one thing that should not be forgotten. Roosevelt suggested to Stalin, during the Tehran conference, to divide the planet equally and manage the planet so that there would be no wars. Stalin said - this is certainly good, but we must not forget that we are not immortal, unfortunately. Roosevelt became sad and said that it was so. It turned out just as Stalin said. No one can be trusted and it is confirmed what happened and the people know about it. A man washes his pants in the river and says - you can’t trust anyone, even yourself. After all, he just wanted to fart. And Khoja Nasretdin undertook to teach the donkey to speak like a human for ten years and promised this to the emir. The emir paid him a large sum for this. All Hodja's friends were alarmed, you cannot do this, the emir will execute you. Hodge, do you know how many things can happen in ten years? The donkey might die. The emir may die. I can die. How much did Yeltsin do in total? Looks like kaput. And suddenly an aegis opened over him. And the law, which was adopted to protect against the people, that you can do whatever your darling wishes and the carcass will remain intact and a museum will be built. Alexei Tolstoy knew the country first hand and wrote poetry. History of the Russian state from Gostmysl to the present day. Listen guys, what your grandfather will tell you, our country is rich, there is only no order in it. The most interesting thing for everyone can be about Queen Elizabeth, about whom a film was made, but they did not ask how she ruined Russia. “The beautiful queen was Elizabeth, she sings and has fun, but there is no order at all.” Sometimes you need to honor what was before and what threatens now and the future.
  11. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 18 July 2022 15: 43
    0
    If the operation is delayed, then any fortune-telling on the coffee grounds looks plausible.
    The Russian Federation can capture the entire territory of Ukraine with a cavalry charge.
    But how then to control the territory with a disloyal population?
    Could this be the reason for the artificial restraint in the pace of the operation?
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 15: 46
      -6
      If the operation is delayed, then any fortune-telling on the coffee grounds looks plausible.
      The Russian Federation can capture the entire territory of Ukraine with a cavalry charge.
      But how then to control the territory with a disloyal population?

      There are many ways to do this. For example, to create in advance the Transitional Government and the Liberation Army of Ukraine, which will deal with this. Which I personally suggested repeatedly.

      Could this be the reason for the artificial restraint in the pace of the operation?

      And what exactly does containment have a positive effect on, apart from increasing the supply of heavy weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
      1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
        Michael L. 18 July 2022 16: 03
        +1
        Where is the guarantee that the initially pro-Russian Transitional Government, with its AOU, will not follow in the footsteps of all previous ones: will not turn towards the West?

        Ukraine sells Western weapons on the black market, and they almost never go to the front.
        And dragging the war into the swamp negatively affects the mood of the population!
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 16: 14
          -5
          Where is the guarantee that the initially pro-Russian Transitional Government, with its AOU, will not follow in the footsteps of all previous ones: will not turn towards the West?

          The guarantee is an agreement on the deployment of Russian military bases on the territory of Ua and general military-political and economic integration into the Union State. I wrote about this many times, tired of repeating.

          Ukraine sells Western weapons on the black market, and they almost never go to the front.

          This is a strong exaggeration. Light weapons are sold mainly, heavy weapons are guarded.

          And dragging the war into the swamp negatively affects the mood of the population!

          The mood of the population is influenced by the prolongation of the conflict, which leads to the receipt by the enemy of ever heavier weapons, which leads to an increase in losses and the impossibility of achieving the main task of the NMD.
          1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
            Michael L. 18 July 2022 16: 36
            0
            Deployment of Russian military bases on the territory of Ukraine - as ... goals for nationalists?
            Heavy weapons are not guarded, but used to shell civilian objects in order to expel the population and accountability!
            The Ukrainian Armed Forces suffer incomparably large losses, which undermines the authority of the authorities among the population!
            In war, as in war ...
          2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 19 July 2022 05: 30
            +5
            Marzhetsky, you repeat the same thing like a mantra - Ukraine - under a variety of sauces. Negotiate with Ukraine, an agreement with Ukraine, the Liberation Army of Ukraine... and so on and so forth. When it reaches you, the finale and goals of the operation can be considered achieved when Ukraine loses its statehood. This is what our President has repeatedly said. All! Finita! There is no state of Ukraine and there is no one to negotiate anything with anyone !!! There are no claims from Poland, Romania, Hungary, since this will be the territory of Russia. Moreover, NATO will be forced to return to its original borders, which by default will mean the self-liquidation of this bandit community and coercion, first in a good way, by America closing all its military bases outside of America. That is exactly what will happen!
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 July 2022 07: 24
              -7
              Negotiate with Ukraine, agreement with Ukraine

              Putin wants to negotiate with Ukraine. I want Ukraine to win.

              When it reaches you, the finale and goals of the operation can be considered achieved when Ukraine loses its statehood. This is what our President has repeatedly said.

              He didn't say anything like that. He said exactly the opposite.

              That will be so!

              Not with this Supreme...
              1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 20 July 2022 21: 44
                +1
                And with what? Is there anyone in particular? It is also possible to reach an agreement with Ukraine on the signing by Ukraine of an act of unconditional surrender of Ukraine. Or, for example, about the recognition of Crimea as Russian and the independence of the LDNR from Ukraine. So, in your words, if Putin seems to want to negotiate with Ukraine, then this means, first of all, that it is possible that there are or will be sensible politicians in the leadership of Ukraine who think primarily about the people of Ukraine, and not about the war to the last Ukrainian. It is clear to Kose that the conquered territories that the Kyiv regime is beating will never become Ukrainian, read become Russian, as they have always been. And the population will become Russian both in spirit and in passport. There is a time for everything and a time for everything!
                1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 20 July 2022 22: 51
                  +1
                  And now I’ll fantasize a little, because I’m also that dreamer. If we took the negotiations in Istanbul, then some comrades accused Medinsky of almost betrayal and the surrender of all the conquests for which our guys died in vain in Ukraine, well, and other nonsense of some, who do not understand belmes in big politics and express dissatisfaction with both Medinsky and Putin and G .SH and everyone in short, and others who are well versed in what's what, but because of their political convictions and want to cause this discontent, they savor the negative, taking as an argument dissatisfaction with the government of the ALL public that will not allow something there, up to the change of all and all. And now let's see what agreements were announced. First, this is just the recognition of Crimea by Ukraine. Is this an agreement with Ukraine? Not at all. This is an agreement with the West, NATO, America. In the case (miracles do not happen) of Ukraine's recognition of the independence of Crimea, all this Western shobla should have lifted all sanctions for the "annexation" of Crimea. Would the West and America allow such recognition? Absolutely not! It began to be agreements or negotiations in the person of Medinsky raised the bar to their level as unrealizable, but at the same time there is no renunciation of negotiations at all. And, Russia is always ready for such negotiations-claims, in fact, an ultimatum. This is about the same if someone were selling a used car that costs a thousand dollars on a market day for ten lyam dollars. No sale denied? Not! Well, take it! But it’s impossible to take, this junk is not worth such money, but there were never such money. So Medinsky (Russia) did everything right for the negotiations. And there is nothing to change for a mirror, some, since the face is crooked!
      2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 19 July 2022 05: 16
        +2
        No Liberation Armies of Ukraine, since such a formation already existed - the UPA. Well, this is about how to dress up wolves in sheep's clothing and claim that they are sheep. No mention - Ukraine - should not be at all !!! Otherwise, it will be the process of creating a Phoenix.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 July 2022 07: 33
          -7
          Tell me, Oleg, denying the Ukrainians their nation, how do you fundamentally differ from the German and Ukrainian Nazis?
          1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 20 July 2022 21: 34
            +3
            First of all, I am a realist who knows the history of the appearance of this very stigma - a Ukrainian! There is no and never existed in nature nationality-Ukrainian! On the territory of Little Russia and New Russia, mostly Russian people have always lived. I do not deny Ukrainians their nation, moreover, it's time to remind them (or some of them) that they were and are a nation in relation to the Russian nation - a multi-ethnic people living on the same territory. Ukraine, under the leadership of the fascist regime, has powdered the brains of the population with the fact that the Ukrainians are not some kind of nation, but a nationality that has nothing in common with its ancestor - the Russian nation. There is no common past, no common culture, no common language. It seems you do not see the difference between nation and nationality. Just as some do not see the difference between the Second World War and the Great Patriotic War.
            1. guest Offline guest
              guest 24 July 2022 14: 28
              0
              Where do such inferences come from? What makes you think that only Zaporozhye will be handed over? Take it higher, write right away that they will hand over at least half of Russia, or even all of it.
  12. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 18 July 2022 17: 36
    -6
    Well, finally, the author woke up realism. And then you understand up to the “Polish border”) Here there is confidence that in the best case for Russia, another KhNR will arise. But Zaporozhye will be handed over, and the Southern Corridor will be a kind of Lithuanian transit
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 July 2022 07: 32
      -8
      We can reach the Polish border. But the government does not want this. That's all.
      And the Kremlin will lead the country to a national catastrophe with such a policy.
      1. zenion Offline zenion
        zenion (zinovy) 19 July 2022 13: 46
        0
        Marzhetsky (Sergey). Of course we can get there, just not in the way that the gypsy convinced his son that they would reach the handle and did. The son reached out to the handle, but there was not enough strength to open it and he died. And his dad said you did, you reached the handle, as I said.
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  14. NikolayN Offline NikolayN
    NikolayN (Nikolai) 18 July 2022 21: 04
    +1
    In fact, there is confidence in victory. Therefore, there is no hurry. The more the West gets involved in this war, the more reason there will be to celebrate victory over the entire West. Celebrate round dates: 10 years, 20 years, 30 years of Victory over Europe and America. Even if Donbass, Kherson and part of the Zaporozhye region remain behind us, this is worth a lot. And let Europe deal with the rest of Ukraine, they will like it.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 24 July 2022 14: 14
      0
      You forgot to mention the shelling of Russian territory, which will become a daily reality if at least some part of Ukraine is left under the control of the West.
      1. NikolayN Offline NikolayN
        NikolayN (Nikolai) 24 July 2022 14: 25
        0
        Who are you? Putin? The task of demilitarization was set by the President. Demilitarization is the complete destruction of the country's armed forces, together with weapons and military equipment. Who will shoot? Fool Zelenskaya? Of what? From a slingshot?
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 24 July 2022 14: 43
          0
          Well, you wrote that Russia can only be satisfied with the Donbass and Kherson and Zaporozhye regions.
  15. oberon2000oberon (Evgeny Tikhonov) 18 July 2022 21: 43
    +1
    And "de jure" it will be for anyone. "For Yura" she will remain, even if we capture her all. There will be some kind of "government in exile", some kind of "borscht liberation army", the Americans will sponsor all sorts of trash on the territory of the former Ukraine .. This is anyway for a long time. winked
  16. Materialist Offline Materialist
    Materialist (Michael) 18 July 2022 22: 04
    0
    "Minsk-3"? didn't eat?
  17. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 18 July 2022 22: 38
    -6
    Ah, fantasy has gone ... like, there will be no small victorious non-war, and EDRO will immediately forget how to correctly count votes remotely ....

    And in real life, as they say, it will be so. They will say - we won everyone - everyone will nod "won"
    they will say - another 3 years, and we will demilitarize everyone - yes, we will demilitarize for 3 years.
    And who does not agree - "liberda", "inogenty" and "slanderers".
  18. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
    Pat Rick 18 July 2022 22: 48
    +5
    What are the key points here? This, of course, is the very fact of Putin's ultimatum,

    The statement of the personal point of view of some former Malomuzh about "Putin's ultimatum" has become the ultimate truth. For some reason, no one else heard about this "ultimatum" except for Malomuzh.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 July 2022 07: 25
      -6
      Malomuzh is a retired high-ranking official who enters the highest circles of the ukroregime.
  19. Denis Z Offline Denis Z
    Denis Z (Denis Z) 19 July 2022 00: 51
    +4
    Officially, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are preparing for a referendum this fall. Hello Marzhetsky)))
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 July 2022 11: 27
      -7
      Well, as they will, we will rejoice together. and if they postpone it, what will you write then, Deniska?
  20. Andrey_3 Offline Andrey_3
    Andrey_3 (Andrey) 19 July 2022 00: 54
    +5
    What is "already coming true"? Writing in the spirit of Strelkov's resentment. The economic situation (the dynamics of gold reserves, the budget and the volume of subsidies) in Ukraine and the political situation in the West (elections in the United States) are not taken into account at all. We fight with expeditionary forces, we take as much as we can. This year, God forbid, to go to the borders of the DPR and master what has already been released.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 July 2022 07: 31
      -7
      All this has long been taken into account. It is not important.
      The main thing is the lack of desire in the Kremlin to win.
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 24 July 2022 14: 08
        0
        I disagree, there is a desire to win, but there is a problem with the price that must be paid for the victory, as they say, "the greed of the fraer ruined." This explains all the failures you listed in Ukraine.
  21. Griffith Offline Griffith
    Griffith (Oleg) 19 July 2022 05: 51
    +1
    For example. At the end of the 20s of the last century, famine begins in the USSR, the devastation after the civil war has not yet been restored everywhere, in the south there are a lot of gangs, while the Bolsheviks take gold and grain out of the country by ship. If the author had lived at that time, he would have written 100% about venality, theft and the export of grandmas from the top of the Bolsheviks abroad, while the country is full of zh.pa. But we do know the truth. So here. We will know the truth in ... twenty years. And now only write fantasy, exploiting the fears of the population and calling them forecasts.
  22. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 19 July 2022 05: 58
    -6
    Well done, Sergey. This is not fantasy, these are realities from our government. It's a shame, you know. Sailors made the people hope for the Russian world and abandoned again.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 July 2022 07: 28
      -5
      We are heading for a national disaster. I'm trying to warn you somehow. As he did in 2014-2015, predicting everything that is happening right now.
      Since 2018, he wrote on the Reporter that Ua must be finished, not allowing her to strengthen the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They neighed at me ... Right now they say with a smart look that we need to soberly assess our strengths and limit ourselves to a titmouse in our hands.
      So who is the provocateur and national traitor here, and who is the patriot?
    2. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 20 July 2022 16: 48
      +1
      Sailors made the people hope for the Russian world and abandoned again.

      It’s not true, for example, you are already fighting in a trench near Soledar ....
      Good luck to you!
      hi
  23. Sergey Mikhalych (Sergei Mikhailovich Motosov) 19 July 2022 10: 37
    -5
    There is such an assumption! 1) Putin, with the Russian capitalists, wanted to integrate into the world economy: to take a leading position in it, to be a respected member of the G7, to lean the Russian population against the golden billion ... But it didn’t work out. They didn't fare well without us. 2) Moreover, the collective West decided to completely rot Russia and reduce it to the position of a raw materials appendage, without the right to make independent decisions. 3) In such a situation, our bourgeois elite had a choice: either to submit to the wishes of the West, but, in this case, there would be few "chosen ones", or to buck and try to bend the civilizers themselves. Risky, but if successful, the number of "chosen ones" would increase significantly. Accordingly, the electoral and financial support of the collective Putin would also increase. 4) Our elites have chosen the second option, which is more risky, but also more tasty. Moreover, shedding blood is not for them.
    Therefore, as the author of this article wrote, if after some successes in the war (oops!) against a neighboring entity, our leadership decides to slow down the military and once again make an offer to the West, I will not be surprised at all. So to speak: economic concessions in exchange for territorial acquisitions. So, back to the beginning of my comment: such an assumption is the place to be!
    1. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 20 July 2022 16: 47
      +1
      Putin, with the Russian capitalists, wanted to integrate into the world economy: to take a leading position in it, to be a respected member of the G7,

      So he "built in" and was a member of G....
  24. atmospheric internet (Atmospheric Internet) 19 July 2022 13: 26
    0
    Here in the comments experts Smeshariki. The situation can change in any direction
  25. Valery Vinokurov (valery vinokurov) 19 July 2022 21: 44
    +3
    why do you think that after the liberation of Donbass there will be a stop to hostilities
    This is the complete defeat of Russia and its collapse, do you think Putin and Shoigu do not understand this and will betray Russia?
    What are your reasons for this?
    Is that why they started it all?
    Yes, I admit that they will give up Galicia and Transcarpathia, since it is not clear what to do with the population there
    But I only admit, as an extreme case
    The rest of Ukraine should be ours and become part of Russia along with Belarus
    Otherwise we're done
    If everything happens in Putin's way, Russia will become an order of magnitude more powerful and united
  26. LeeSeeTsin Offline LeeSeeTsin
    LeeSeeTsin (Stas) 19 July 2022 23: 43
    -1
    Very interesting thoughts. With the low war on the southern flank, fantasies can turn into reality.
  27. gene1 Offline gene1
    gene1 (Gennady) 20 July 2022 09: 04
    +1
    1. Ukraine will never sit down at the negotiating table.
    2. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will no longer take large cities of Ukraine.
    3. The goal of the leadership of the Russian Federation now is not to attack at an accelerated pace, but to grind the human and material potential of the enemy.
    4. The goal is to create chaos in Ukraine.
    5. After that, by decision of the UN Security Council, the entry of peacekeepers. And this means the demilitarization of Ukraine has been made. Do not yawn here, send troops to the westernmost regions.
    6. Squeeze the Nazis and armed gangs into the western regions (this is the beginning of denazification)
    7. When will this happen??? Either this winter or next.
  28. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 20 July 2022 16: 46
    +1
    What are the key points here? This, of course, is the very fact of Putin's ultimatum, "peace negotiations", the demand for them through blackmail by an offensive, as well as a certain "Southern Corridor". Here I would like to dwell on this in a little more detail.

    I love to read Marzhetsky: especially about Putin's plans in the retelling of the SBU ...)))
  29. yakisam Offline yakisam
    yakisam (Alexander) 24 July 2022 12: 38
    0
    That is, in fact, the transfer of the entire territory of Ukraine to Western countries in exchange for joining the "southern corridor" to the Russian Federation, moreover, the transfer was decided by the Russian leadership?
    It seems that this was the purpose of the beginning of the measures - the government's assistance in the occupation of the territory of the USSR by Western countries, carried out in such a way that at first it looked like the "liberation" of the "Russian world"?
    Or I'm wrong? Of course, I'm wrong and I have no reason to think so.
  30. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 24 July 2022 12: 41
    +1
    why the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov de jure can remain Ukrainian

    Crimea is still considered Ukrainian by our enemies. So what?
    Of course, the situation with the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov will be funnier. There will be no Ukraine as a state, and the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov will be Ukrainian.
    However, the logic of our enemies is very bad. That is why they will lose to us, degraders.