The opening of the “grain corridor” may mean a refusal to liberate the Black Sea region

The opening of the “grain corridor” may mean a refusal to liberate the Black Sea region

We continue the morally difficult topic of why the real results of the special operation in Ukraine may turn out to be somewhat different than the majority of Russians and adequate Ukrainians would like. Judging by comments, about half of our readers did not understand at all how and why the NWO could suddenly be suspended after the complete liberation of Donbass. It seems that special attention should be paid to this issue.


The main difficulty in determining whether Russia won in Ukraine or not is that there are still no clear and unambiguous criteria for evaluation. On February 24, 2022, President Putin announced the start of a special operation, the main goals of which were the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. However, already on March 18, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief at a concert-rally on the occasion of the 8th anniversary of the reunification of Russia with Crimea slightly corrected the original statement:

Genocide was committed against the Donbass. To save people from this genocide and suffering is the main reason, motive and goal of launching a special military operation in Ukraine.

On June 29, 2022, President Putin once again formulated the ultimate goal of the special military operation in Ukraine:

The ultimate goal I have outlined is the liberation of Donbass, the protection of these people and the creation of conditions that would guarantee the security of Russia itself.

What specifically means “the creation of conditions that would guarantee the security of Russia” is stubbornly not deciphered. But, apparently, it is supposed to sign some kind of agreement between Kyiv and Moscow in Istanbul (conditional "Minsk-3"). At the same time, the Kremlin still does not refuse from the voluntary restrictions not to overthrow the regime of President Zelensky and not to occupy the territory of Ukraine, which is an indispensable condition for its real demilitarization and denazification of the population.

So what do we have at the moment? With Donbass, everything is more or less clear: after 8 years of ordeals, it was finally officially recognized and they began to release it in earnest. By the beginning of autumn 2022, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard will be defeated there and expelled from the territory of the DPR and LPR. But what will happen next? Did someone in the Kremlin say something about an attack on Nikolaev, Zaporozhye, Kharkov, Odessa, or, God forgive me, again on Kyiv or Lvov?

Not at all. These are ours with you fantasy. It is we, our dear readers, who understand that in order to defeat the Nazi regime in Kyiv, it must at least be cut off from the Black Sea, depriving it of all export earnings, and at the most from Poland through Western Ukraine, leaving it without the supply of NATO weapons and ammunition, fuel and lubricants for the APU. And for this, immediately after the liberation of the territory of the DPR and LPR, it is necessary to carry out the liberation Nikolaev, and then the Odessa offensive operation.

Now we will smoothly move on to the reason for writing this and the previous article on this morally difficult topic. What is happening now in the Black Sea region, which is under the control of the criminal Kyiv regime?

And what is happening around the Ukrainian Black Sea region is the following. Quadripartite negotiations are underway in Istanbul between representatives of Kyiv, Moscow, Ankara and the UN regarding the opening of the so-called "grain corridor" from Odessa and other ports of Nezalezhnaya. It is assumed that Ukrainian ports will be opened in the near future, the water areas around them will be partially cleared of mines. Under the control of the Turkish military, grain caravans, escorted by the surviving Ukrainian ships of the Ukrainian Navy, will finally enter the Black Sea. All this is being done under the most plausible pretext of "fighting world hunger." In fact, everything is somewhat different.

As we have explained earlier, all food grains from Ukraine were exported in advance before February 24, 2022. Only fodder grain remained there, which is necessary for feeding European cows and pigs, as well as sunflower, corn and a number of other agricultural crops. And for more than five months of the Russian NWO, grain has been continuously imported and exported right now from Nezalezhnaya through Poland, Moldova and Romania. That is, no one is seriously going to save any “Papuans swollen from hunger” with Ukrainian grain from Odessa. And what will actually happen?

In fact, Kyiv will receive money for grain and will be able to pay off with Western partners for the supply of weapons, fuel and fuels and lubricants. Theoretically, it will be possible to supply NATO weapons and ammunition by sea through Odessa. But that's not even the worst. Worst of all, under the plausible pretext of "joint struggle against world hunger", the Russian leadership is de facto refusing further expansion in the Black Sea region. The American edition of The Wall Street Journal wrote about these obvious things in plain text:

Grain can be exported from three Ukrainian ports in convoys escorted by Ukrainian vessels with a ceasefire within their geographical limits and some clearance of mines.


"Some demining" and "ceasefire" actually means Moscow's agreement that the Black Sea region will be a zone free from hostilities, and will remain with the Kyiv regime, and therefore, with the collective West. That is, all strategic plans to cut off Central Ukraine from the Black Sea automatically go down the drain. In Odessa and other Ukrainian ports, NATO members represented by the Turkish military will settle. And there is no need for naive self-consolation in the spirit of the fact that all this is temporary, only once the grain will be taken out and that's it. There is nothing more permanent than temporary. Now Kyiv and the collective West need to withdraw the remnants of the Ukrainian crop, but Ukraine has already planted 75% of its last year's sown area. Then it will be necessary to export a new crop, and so on.

What will Russia get by refusing to liberate the Black Sea region from the power of the criminal Kyiv regime? Let us quote the opinion of the teacher of the Department of Foreign Regional Studies and Foreign policy RSUH Vadim Trukhachev, expressed in interview Edition "Vzglyad":

And yet, the main benefit for Russia from this deal is that we appear in the eyes of the non-Western world as a country that is ready for a serious conversation on the grain issue and the prevention of global famine. This is an image issue. We are a responsible country that hears the aspirations, anxieties and experiences of the rest of the world, is ready to take them into account, and for this we are ready even for negotiations with our enemies and opponents. The world sees it.


Yes, chic "buns", you will not say anything! Again, everyone was outplayed. In the meantime, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to set fire to fields with grain, located in the territories already liberated by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. This is for the sake of completeness.

They say you criticize - offer. Well, here are concrete proposals for you as an alternative to the shameful "drain" of the Black Sea region under a plausible pretext. If the collective West needs Ukrainian grain so much, let them export it through the Russian-controlled ports of Mariupol, Berdyansk and Kherson. For objective control, international observers can be attracted, but not from Turkey, but, say, from Egypt and other non-Western countries, where grain should be exported. And everyone will see how responsible and constructive we are. And if Kyiv and its curators refuse, it means that they don’t really need all this.
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  1. Dingo Offline Dingo
    Dingo (Victor) 16 July 2022 12: 11
    +12
    Shameful "Khasavyurt - 2" ... I didn't say -

    Whoever chooses between war and shame gets both war and shame.

    Which is what we eventually got in Chechnya ... And we will get it here, but later ... And incomparably harder and bloodier ... Apparently, this is such a favorite sport of the current government - running on a rake ... "History teaches that it is NOTHING doesn't teach...
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 17 July 2022 00: 20
      0
      Dingo, you are lamenting about a situation that is not yet in reality, but is only in the author's assumptions.
      1. Dingo Offline Dingo
        Dingo (Victor) 17 July 2022 01: 25
        +3
        Oleg, my life experience (and I'm already under 70) suggests that we all see only the "tip of the iceberg" ...
        1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 17 July 2022 08: 59
          +1
          Dingo I'm 69 so I'm not much younger. An unsuccessful comparison with an iceberg in the context of the article. Your life experience is most likely not connected with the war, otherwise you would not have written anything like this. But the underwater part of the iceberg can be anything for a successful operation. Did you give me a minus?
          1. Dingo Offline Dingo
            Dingo (Victor) 17 July 2022 09: 39
            0
            Oleg, my nephew, Colonel of OMON, two weeks ago returned FROM THERE with his people (rotation after three months). All are intact, two 300 ... And yes - he has both "Chechen" ones over his shoulder ... There is something to compare with. I know what I'm talking about, but not everything can be said here ... The usual "trench truth" ...
            And further. I don't give cons to my interlocutors.
          2. Dingo Offline Dingo
            Dingo (Victor) 17 July 2022 10: 35
            +1
            No, I don’t put minuses on my interlocutors ...
            And experience ... Indirectly. I just started at the post office, at NIIDAR, on Preobrazhenka. Two polygons in Sary-Shagan, each half a year. At the last, "Soyuz-79", A.I. Koldunov (Commander-in-Chief of Air Defense, Air Marshal) shook hands, thanks for the service (they were looking for a "cure" for "axes" in Western Europe of our so-called "partners" - and found...).
            Plemyash recently returned with his own, in rotation ... Colonel OMON, both "Chechen" in the past ... All are intact, but two 300 ... Also their own truth, trench ..
            I just have a different social circle ... with all the consequences ...
  2. Andreysradinsky Offline Andreysradinsky
    Andreysradinsky (Andrew) 16 July 2022 13: 02
    -4
    Yes, the logic is ironclad. Once the grain is taken out, then everything ... a cross on the Black Sea coast. According to her, Ukraine could simply publicly burn grain and calmly transfer troops to the Donbass. By the way, the grain has long been paid for. The principle "money in the morning, and chairs a year later" also applies here.
  3. Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
    Ingvar7 (Ingvar Miller) 16 July 2022 13: 13
    +13
    Refusal from - at least - the Black Sea coast - is a complete disappointment in the authorities and in the future of Russia.
  4. olj49 Offline olj49
    olj49 (User) 16 July 2022 13: 17
    +6
    And everyone will see how responsible and constructive we are.

    I would like to see the results of the next elections. The reaction of the dominant group in Russia to them is also interesting, not to mention the army.
  5. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 16 July 2022 13: 28
    -2
    The author has exaggerated.
    Ukraine will receive payment for the exported grain? Traditionally plundered!
    Buy a weapon? So she gets it almost for free ... and sells it at dumping prices on the black market - it almost never reaches combat units - the West has already raised a howl about this.
    The main thing is that there is an operational pause between the current harvest and the future, which the Russian Federation will certainly use.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 16 July 2022 14: 20
      +6
      The main thing is that there is an operational pause between the current harvest and the future, which the Russian Federation will certainly use.

      Yes, it can use pauses.
      Look, from 2014 to 2022, how they prepared, prepared for war with Ukraine, and so they prepared.
      1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
        Michael L. 16 July 2022 14: 32
        -3
        Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side.

        (Shota Rustaveli)
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 16 July 2022 14: 52
          +3
          So what? From the side it really looks better.
          And I predicted everything that is happening now all the previous 8 years. So I have every moral right to criticize.
          1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
            Michael L. 16 July 2022 15: 46
            +2
            V. Gaft in the film "Garage":

            My gold, something, but you have the right.
  6. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 16 July 2022 13: 58
    -1
    Here is another matter. It seems that many have finally realized that there will be no “liberation” of Odessa, Kharkov, Nikolaev and further down the list. The main thing that the leadership is now thinking about is to save face, to find a plausible pretext to merge the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions.
    1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
      Michael L. 16 July 2022 14: 12
      +1
      Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu instructed to increase the actions of the country's Armed Forces (AF) in all areas in Ukraine. He stated this on Saturday, July 16, writes TASS.
    2. guest Offline guest
      guest 17 July 2022 00: 41
      0
      That's just Putin's decree on passports for all residents of Ukraine contradicts your conjectures.
      1. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
        Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 17 July 2022 10: 33
        0
        Why do you think so? In South Ossetia, almost everyone has Russian passports, and what's next?
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 25 November 2022 16: 15
          0
          How that South Ossetia was not merged.
  7. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 16 July 2022 14: 11
    0
    Sergey often writes well when he does not touch on controversial technical issues. Returns with the same themes, unlike the others.
    Readers have no time to follow the intrigues of politicians, but here it is again, and he described what exactly the Supreme Commander said about the goals of Z in dynamics by months.
    And about the food of Ukraine. "Ukraine has already planted 75% of its acreage last year."
    That is, it is expected that the promises that they will die of hunger because of the "dark lord Z", puff and disappear.
    As previously, the promises "Europe will die from the cold in winter", designed for completely uncritical ones, have disappeared, because at the same time they wrote "the storage facilities are 75% full", and not even in winter, even in autumn.

    And move Turkey, IMHO is impossible. The straits, about which a lot of "horror stories" were also written - she, and besides, a "partner" (and not a killer of a pilot, a terrorist and a sultan), cannot be offended. And Egypt, etc. ..... far away, let them fork out ... probably both Turkey and the Russian Federation in a share in some sense.
    Capitalism is in the yard, private grain, "the market is already deciding" (literally, Chubais), and grain contracts are probably all old ones, concluded in advance, immediately after the harvest ....

    The Black Sea region - taking into account statements on the "annexation of the Kharkiv region and others" - will take what they can. Not fools. Just since the Ukrainians did not immediately give up, it became more difficult to take. Not a war, turn everything into a "lunar landscape" (they showed it here)
  8. Dingo Offline Dingo
    Dingo (Victor) 16 July 2022 14: 20
    +2
    Quote: Colonel Kudasov
    Let us quote the opinion of Vadim Trukhachev, lecturer at the Department of Foreign Regional Studies and Foreign Policy of the Russian State Humanitarian University, expressed in an interview with Vzglyad:

    Apparently, the case of A. Kozyrev (the so-called "Kozyrevshchina") still lives in Russia's foreign policy. Sadly. And it leads to very unpleasant thoughts ...
  9. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 16 July 2022 14: 34
    +4
    And I want to believe that our military will not allow another "Minsk". Moreover, Putin said that no one had forgotten Odessa, and all the guilty would answer for it. The author is right in one thing - preparation for betrayal on the face.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 16 July 2022 14: 53
      +6
      Trust me, I REALLY want to be wrong. If anything, I'm ready to apologize later for my "speculations" if we return Odessa, Kharkov, Kyiv and reach the Polish border.
      1. nurmag07 Offline nurmag07
        nurmag07 (Magomed Nurmagomedov) 16 July 2022 15: 32
        0
        This is not speculation, but a competent publication,
      2. Dingo Offline Dingo
        Dingo (Victor) 17 July 2022 01: 47
        0
        Sergey, but where will it be, this Polish border, by that time? ..
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 July 2022 11: 39
          +2
          If you pull, they will go to the memory. Then things get complicated.
          1. guest Offline guest
            guest 17 July 2022 14: 38
            0
            Or maybe really let them come in and when they all come in, they will gobble them up with nuclear weapons there.
          2. Eleanor Offline Eleanor
            Eleanor (Elina Glushakova) 17 July 2022 23: 58
            0
            It will become more complicated if the Hungarians and the Poles go there earlier.
      3. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 17 July 2022 09: 08
        -2
        Marzhetsky needs to do this (apologize) right now!
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 July 2022 11: 38
          +1
          It's not for you to decide, but for me.
      4. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
        Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 18 July 2022 07: 16
        +2
        Well done, Sergey. Raise important issues, and it hits some rotten authorities in one place
  10. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 16 July 2022 14: 49
    +8
    If the Kremlin surrenders after the liberation of Donbass, refuses to return the entire former Ukrainian Black Sea region, signs some (shameful, IMHO) agreements with the so-called. ukraine/collective West.. It will be the drain of everything-the Russian world, actually Russia. It will be a catastrophe for our country - instant or slightly delayed ...
  11. nurmag07 Offline nurmag07
    nurmag07 (Magomed Nurmagomedov) 16 July 2022 15: 28
    +5
    The current government is not capable of anything else, nothing new, we went through it ... there is only one hegemon
    here he is successfully pushing through his interests ... and we have only one word, "goodwill gesture", "dear partners", etc. Etc. By the way, China is also afraid, silent, saying something there, not the topic. Hooray Yeltsin center, worthy followers!!!
    1. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 17 July 2022 02: 23
      0
      I dare to disappoint you, dear. China is not afraid of anyone or anything ... The wrong country and the wrong mentality. Says "off topic"? It is better to listen (or listen) - what he DOES NOT TALK about ...
  12. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 16 July 2022 18: 48
    -5
    Let's not act like deceived children.
    Didn't we understand that it was impossible for us to win in Ukraine?
    Will someone else ask me why?
    Yes, because according to the law of communicating vessels, the forces of the opposite side are replenished from NATO forces across its borders. And this is still the Hegemon did not connect NATO in Ukraine directly. Poland is waiting at a low start, but even the Hegemon does not need it yet. Is he Ok. Ready for us Kaliningrad, St. Petersburg, the Kuriles, etc., etc.
    The question is not that our expectations were deceived.
    The question is - why did these expectations turn out to be childish?
    Is it really not clear that we are fighting in Ukraine with the States, and that fighting on its territory with them is stupid and like laughter.
    If for an adult, then it is necessary to expect from the authorities a real showdown with the Hegemon, creating a threat of a nuclear war on its own territory - in its bedroom.
    And there’s no other way to discourage the Hegemon’s appetite, as well as stop his actions in Ukraine
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 16 July 2022 22: 11
      +3
      The Black Sea region with Odessa, indeed, seems to be everything. They write that barricades are being dismantled from the streets in Odessa, the port is starting to work, etc.
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 17 July 2022 10: 53
        +1
        Katz offers to surrender.
    2. guest Offline guest
      guest 17 July 2022 00: 37
      0
      Are you suggesting capitulation?
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 17 July 2022 11: 07
        0
        Don't pretend to be stupid. Where did you pull it from?
        I propose to fight with our real enemy, and on his territory. Just like the USSR did in 1962. Not using nuclear weapons. If possible
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 25 November 2022 16: 13
          0
          But only the threat of using nuclear weapons forced our enemy to compromise in 1962.
          1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
            Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 November 2022 16: 51
            0
            You need to chew everything.
            By concept

            to fight with our real enemy, and on its territory ... Without using nuclear weapons. If possible

            I mean the THREAT of the full-scale use of our strategic nuclear weapons on the territories of the United States and Great Britain with a firm readiness to carry out this threat in full. That is, with our firm readiness to go to mutual destruction. Just like it was in 1962.
            If the threat takes effect, nuclear weapons will not be used
            1. guest Offline guest
              guest 25 November 2022 16: 55
              0
              Quote: Alexey Davydov
              with firm readiness to carry out this threat in full.

              Is there such readiness? Our leadership in every possible way asserts that it will not use nuclear weapons.
              1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 November 2022 17: 06
                0
                Is there such readiness? Our leadership in every possible way asserts that it will not use nuclear weapons.

                Influencing the hosts of the current war, the Anglo-Saxons, with a direct threat of their destruction is the ONLY tool that can still force them to retreat. This is an indisputable fact, everything else is a consequence of it.
                If the power is treacherous, and we see that it is, then Russia needs to change it to the power of the people. How? In this case, it doesn't matter. It is important that it is NECESSARY, otherwise Russia is guaranteed to die. This is how the question is now.
                Since it is NECESSARY - for the sake of saving the country and the people, the healthy forces of the country must find competent ways to do this
                1. guest Offline guest
                  guest 25 November 2022 17: 09
                  0
                  This is some kind of Ukrainization of the brain, agents of the West are at war with the West, I propose to think at least a little.
                  1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 November 2022 17: 35
                    0
                    agents of the west are at war with the west,

                    Have you seen the fight of the "Nanai boys"? As a result, money from the national budgets of the NATO countries flows to the accounts of the national military-industrial complex, and from them to the accounts of the military-industrial complex of the Anglo-Saxons, which produce the main range of weapons.
                    The West itself consists of overlords and vassals.
                    The overlord now uses his vassals, as well as Russia and Ukraine, as expendable material in order to stay afloat himself. For this, he pushed Ukraine and Russia together, making them a "lighter" for a fire in Europe.
                    Only in this way can he force his vassals to shed blood for their interests. They will destroy Russia for him and, bled dry by her, will become his production appendage without resistance. Russia's resources will go to him entirely. The overlord will turn into a slave owner and reign on two continents
  13. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 16 July 2022 22: 31
    +1
    It may or may not mean a refusal. So Marzhetsky keep your tail with a gun .. wink
  14. Pavel57 Offline Pavel57
    Pavel57 (Paul) 16 July 2022 23: 24
    0
    It's sad if that's the case.
  15. staer-62 Offline staer-62
    staer-62 (Andrei) 17 July 2022 06: 46
    +4
    No matter how sorry I am for our army, which shows miracles of heroism, I have to admit that we are weak militarily, hence the wagging of politicians. They started with an ultimatum from NATO demanding to push back, ended up reaching the borders of Donbass and that's it. The special operation showed who is who. Who is a man whose word is flint, and who is not. Yes, our politicians have nothing to lose in relations with the West, they are outcasts there, non-humans, like all of us Russians once again, and still we climb to them with concessions, like we are good for you. They are already fighting against us, killing our people on our territory, and all the early politicians pretend that nothing happened. The Kremlin will be bombed, they will say that it is a meteor.
  16. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 17 July 2022 08: 30
    +4
    Why does Russia wipe away and swallow from everyone, even the holy fools of Bulgaria, Romania, the Czech Republic, Moldova, etc.? Maybe from the fact that it is headed by an indecisive (modest) person. He seems to be speaking correctly, but he only speaks. And God bless him, well, he was born like that.
    It seems that the SVO went to Ukraine. For the Motherland! Hooray!
    And right away, with Medinsky, stuttering with fear, now in Turkey about the opening of the ports of Ukraine. In Kyiv and Lvov, they drink kava on the street, and in Donetsk they tear children apart. Belgorod is being shelled - everything is according to plan.
    It seems that the age is already (almost 70 years old), it's time to think about the eternal, but no. Friends - hucksters asked (demanded) not to touch the Ukrainian railway for their transportation, and he does not touch it. Do not shoot at decision centers, he does not shoot. They will destroy Sevastopol, Belgorod, Rostov with weapons sent, well, hang on there. We will send money (a little), we will help with building materials (already for money).
    But you have to hit once, backhand, with all your might! To sit down with fear!
    If in March 2022 the mercenaries at the Yavorovsky training ground were hit by tactical nuclear weapons, then the war would have ended long ago. No one would have sent weapons, the mercenaries would have evaporated. And the Nazis would have known the strong character of the Russian president!
    1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 17 July 2022 09: 16
      -3
      Teacher, you still have to learn and learn ... mind the mind! Thank God that in our leadership there are no such hot, decisive but very, very stupid!
  17. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 17 July 2022 08: 34
    +4
    The cunning games of our negotiators have already given Gostomel and the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and the Soviet grandmother to the Nazis ... But there is no limit to perfection ... Of course, not an easy situation, but there may not be such a unified support anymore ...
  18. horseradish Offline horseradish
    horseradish 17 July 2022 10: 58
    0
    Our main goal is for the dill to mine their part of the sea. And to announce a ban on shipping in connection with the outbreak of hostilities in the Odessa region is not a problem. We ourselves will not be able to clear mines under their fire. So you have to do it by hand.
  19. zuuukoo Online zuuukoo
    zuuukoo (Sergei) 17 July 2022 11: 07
    +3
    There is a suspicion that there is no physical ability to control the Black Sea. The Black Sea Fleet is in fact pressed against the coast of Crimea. Actually, that's why the agreement.
    It feels like the author is still living in the world of Solovyov & Co. fairy tales about "a super-army that will reach Berlin in a week."
    It's time to understand that the reality is somewhat different.
    There is a desire to take Odessa and Lvov, but there are real opportunities.
    And these opportunities, to put it mildly, do not quite correspond to what we have been hearing from our brave leaders for years.
  20. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 July 2022 11: 41
    +4
    Quote from: zuuukoo
    It feels like the author is still living in the world of Solovyov & Co. fairy tales about "a super-army that will reach Berlin in a week."
    It's time to understand that the reality is somewhat different.

    Listen, I have been writing for 8 years that Ukraine must be demolished, not allowing it to strengthen itself. He wrote that we are suffering with the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And so it happened.
    These tales about Kyiv in 3 days are not for me.
    1. zuuukoo Online zuuukoo
      zuuukoo (Sergei) 17 July 2022 12: 00
      0
      Well, why then these condolences that "we will not take Odessa / it seems our authorities want to negotiate"?
      The fact that they VERY want to agree became clear back in early March, when it became clear that Plan A did not work (there are no questions - there were no chances and it was worth trying).
      But there was no plan B at all.
      And their desire to come to an agreement is not a wishlist, but a real assessment of the situation in which they themselves got themselves into trouble.
  21. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 17 July 2022 12: 03
    +3
    Worst of all, under the plausible pretext of "joint struggle against world hunger", the Russian leadership is de facto refusing further expansion in the Black Sea region. The American edition of The Wall Street Journal wrote about these obvious things in plain text.

    If this betrayal takes place (more likely than not), this will mark the beginning of the collapse of the Russian Federation. All the declared goals of the SVO are leveled, millions of Russian speakers in Ukraine are thrown into the clutches of the Nazis. Pridnestrovie is being torn to pieces, and Moldova can also be forgotten. All conquered territories will be shelled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and eventually fall. Looking at this, the last allies of the Russian Federation will turn away. Complete paralysis of power in Russia. Putin, if there is a conscience, will not even run in 2024. Who will come is not very important. collapse.
    And all this is being decided now under a plausible pretext - saving humanity from hunger (black humor)!
  22. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 July 2022 12: 23
    +1
    Quote from: zuuukoo
    Well, why then these condolences that "we will not take Odessa / it seems our authorities want to negotiate"?
    The fact that they VERY want to agree became clear back in early March, when it became clear that Plan A did not work (there are no questions - there were no chances and it was worth trying).
    But there was no plan B at all.
    And their desire to come to an agreement is not a wishlist, but a real assessment of the situation in which they themselves got themselves into trouble.

    To what lived would end in a nuclear war in a few years.
    We can still win. Asked the authorities do not want
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  24. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 18 July 2022 07: 08
    +1
    It will be a shame and the beginning of the collapse of Russia
  25. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 July 2022 11: 13
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    Quote: Yuri Bryansky
    It will be a shame and the beginning of the collapse of Russia

    Yes. And the process is already underway...
  26. Alexfly Offline Alexfly
    Alexfly (Alexander) 20 July 2022 10: 35
    +1
    Odessa and Nikolayevshchina should come under the control of the Russian Federation, otherwise this whole undertaking is not worth a damn .. Originally Russian-speaking territories will be forcibly Ukrainianized. What we see in the light of the last days...
  27. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 22 July 2022 09: 14
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    The Kremlin has again found a reason for another betrayal, without which it cannot. Apparently he realized that he messed up.