Putin: Russia hasn't really started anything in Ukraine yet


In the process of conducting a special operation in Ukraine, Russia has not yet even begun to do anything serious militarily. At the same time, Moscow has never refused to settle through diplomacy. This was announced on July 7 by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with the heads of the State Duma factions.


According to the head of the Russian state, Western countries wanted to unleash a conflict as a variant of a new containment of the Russian Federation. He believes that, to some extent, what the Western countries planned has succeeded, since "both the war has been unleashed and sanctions have been imposed." But the West should have already understood that they lost from the very beginning of the NWO on Ukrainian territory, which became the beginning of the destruction of the “American world order”.

Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield, well, what can I say, let them try

- he noted.

The owner of the Kremlin drew attention to the fact that the West is going to fight with Russia in Ukraine to the last Ukrainian.

This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people. But it looks like it's all going to

- emphasized the Russian leader.

But, everyone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything seriously yet.

- he added.

At the same time, Putin warned that those who refuse peace negotiations should understand that the longer the NWO lasts, the more difficult it will be for them to agree with Moscow. He recalled that Western countries ignored all attempts by the Russian Federation to conduct a mutually beneficial dialogue on the most important issues of regional security and international stability. This suggests that the West does not need the existing Russia and wants to get rid of it.

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  1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 7 July 2022 22: 41
    -7
    Eight years of Minsk-2 did not teach this hockey player anything, how he was a partner and remained
    1. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 7 July 2022 22: 56
      -1
      Then don't scream...
      1. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
        DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 8 July 2022 01: 03
        +5
        Doesn't matter. Let these so-called. Ukrainians, when their vile ancestors - policemen and traitors were hanged - they also squealed, not for long. Now their vile descendants are rotting through the woods and grooves in Ukraine to the delight of Bandera, this is their Ukrainian choice. Should we feel sorry for them? No, it's not worth it, these are not people, killing them is not a sin.

        You can see what happened from Bandera's rotten offspring - for example - Christ Freeland - a major Canadian functionary, Russophobe and cosmopolitan, without honor and conscience. Selected product. Such similar scum is now full in Ukraine. They are specially delivered there. This is the occupation.
        Maybe it's really time to fight seriously?
        There has never been any Ukraine and it is not needed.
    2. zavhoz_rus Offline zavhoz_rus
      zavhoz_rus (Alexey) 9 July 2022 12: 46
      0
      That is, it started its own according to your collusion?
  2. Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) 7 July 2022 23: 05
    -6
    Talk about nothing, either not true, or empty words that mean nothing.
  3. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 8 July 2022 00: 03
    +1
    The West is going to fight with Russia in Ukraine to the last Ukrainian.

    Frequently repeated phrase. But there is an equally strange question for her: "Is Russia ready to fight to the last Ukrainian?"
    This is a very serious problem.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 July 2022 10: 37
      +3
      This is a very serious problem.

      Long gone. The life of one of our soldiers is more important than a hundred thousand inhabitants b. Ukraine.
      Who is against Russia - in the furnace. Without sentimentality and false kindness. Better an empty territory than a territory inhabited by our enemies.
      If they want to survive, let them run or learn to cooperate with Russia.
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 9 July 2022 06: 26
        0
        The answers were not surprising. The question remains.
        According to some posts, I understood that Russia is ready to dispose of all Ukrainians. Will have to clarify. I have always maintained that the state of Ukraine is hostile to Russia. And its existence in the current Russophobic state is unacceptable. But does this mean that the state must be destroyed, the Ukrainian language must be eliminated and fight to the last Ukrainian?
        Of course, the simplest solution is to destroy or deport everyone. And wrong. Look at the news from Ukraine. Thousands of soldiers who came out of the encirclement, thousands of disgruntled soldiers are demanding .... And what are they demanding? Stop the war, make peace with Russia? No, they require adequate commanders and modern weapons to fight the Russians.
        So, the answers are not surprising. Most are used to waving their fists and not thinking. If, as you say, "learn to cooperate with Russia", then this means the existence of Ukraine and Ukrainians. My question was not about the war, but about the post-war system.
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 July 2022 07: 05
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          But does this mean that the state must be destroyed, the Ukrainian language must be eliminated and fight to the last Ukrainian?

          The state must be destroyed. There is no need for language. They will say - so be it. The main thing is that this matter should be personal, and not imposed, as is now happening on the territory of the b. Ukraine.
          Fight until victory. There is no such task on our part - to fight to the last Ukrainian. This is their choice - they consider it right to fight to the very end - a flag in their hands, a drum around their necks.

          You say "learn to cooperate with Russia", this means the existence of Ukraine and Ukrainians.

          Not at all. It is possible and necessary to create new states on the territory of b. Ukraine. Here their authorities will learn to cooperate. No other authorities are allowed. And why are we talking about Ukrainians? Russians and people of many other nationalities also live there.

          It is necessary to destroy all the enemies of Russia, regardless of nationality. Yeah, I'll swing my fists. Or suggest waving your fists after a fight?
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 9 July 2022 07: 41
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            It is possible and necessary to create new states on the territory of b. Ukraine.

            Will these be Russian states? New Russia, Little Russia .... Or will they still become part of Russia?
            War, politics, geopolitics are all interesting and important. But there is also sociology.
            Any state association called Ukraine will be hostile to Russia. This is an axiom. "During the formation of the state, there can be no other elite than the national one." Therefore, there is not and cannot be a pro-Russian elite in Ukraine. You can only put your puppets in power by force. This is what the West did (Yushchenko, Poroshenko, Zelensky). Even Yanukovych was not pro-Russian. But he was not pro-American either. That's why he was overthrown. What to do with the millions of Ukrainians who demand weapons for the war with Russia? Destroy or deport? From your answers, I understand that Russia will fight to the last Ukrainian. Then the goals of the United States and Russia coincide. At least in this matter.

            PS Pay attention to the video from the liberated areas. Basically, the flags of the USSR and the banner of Victory are hung there. Russian flags are also hung as a sign of liberation. But they fight under the red flag. I can’t say whether this suits the Russian authorities? In particular, the leadership of the country. Do all ministers and officials welcome red banners?
            Baba Anya with a red banner became a symbol of the NWO. Not with the flag of the Russian Federation, but with the flag of the USSR. "The world has changed," Putin said. Whether the government has changed, he did not say.
            1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 July 2022 08: 11
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              From your answers, I understand that Russia will fight to the last Ukrainian. Then the goals of the United States and Russia coincide. At least in this matter.

              Actually, I wrote that ours will fight until victory. That is, the goal is victory, not the destruction of Ukrainians. I think you are confusing the end and the means to achieve the end.

              What to do with the millions of Ukrainians who demand weapons for the war with Russia? Destroy or deport?

              Let's not deceive me by writing about the millions of Ukrainians who demand weapons for the war with Russia. Millions of Ukrainians are fleeing the mobilization. Politicians and the military demand weapons, which are becoming less and less every day.
              I think that some of the inhabitants of the former Ukraine will leave the territory themselves. No one needs to be deported. Will destroy those who are at war with Russia.

              Will these be Russian states? New Russia, Little Russia .... Or will they still become part of Russia?

              I don't understand what Russian states mean. Donbass will become part of Russia. There may be other areas. And I wrote about the rest. Should I copy the text from the previous comment into this comment or will you read it there?
              1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 9 July 2022 08: 38
                0
                Well, maybe I exaggerated about millions. But the video from the military, where they demand weapons, is not a fake.
                The end and the means are two different things. But why do you think that I confuse them is not clear. What is the purpose of the SVO? Russian Security Guarantees. What means have been chosen for this? Military technical. I use the terminology of the President of Russia.
                I do not think (and never thought) that these are optimal means. But "he called himself a loader - climb into the body."
                What do you understand by Victory? Access to the borders of Poland and Hungary? It's possible. Not sure if it will work, but it's possible.
                If the Donbass and "some other regions" become part of Russia, then the goals of the operation will not be achieved. And so the wrong means were chosen.
                If this is not clear, then I do not know how else to explain. I repeat, so that you do not search. "Any state formation of Ukraine will be hostile to Russia." From my previous posts, "The State of Ukraine must be preserved and reformatted. Reformatting of ALL Ukraine is possible only if there are Russian regions in its composition." Pull Donbass and "other regions" out of the body of Ukraine and get a 100% hostile Ukraine. Which the West will gladly rearm and train. And he will place his bases on its territory.
                1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 July 2022 09: 49
                  0
                  What do you understand by Victory? Access to the borders of Poland and Hungary?

                  In fact, there is still a border with Romania.

                  The victory is in line with the official goals. The security of Russia can only be ensured by the destruction of the state with the name of Ukraine and the establishment of order in these territories.
                  As I see it, the admission of Donbass to Russia and maybe some other regions, for example, Kherson. And in the rest of the territories, the creation of states that should become either friendly to Russia or neutral.
                  Why will it be necessary to curtail the rights of these states for some period in order to control the government and NOT create armed forces. Whether they speak Ukrainian or Japanese, no one cares.
                  Ideally, on the territory of Western Ukraine - our military bases and missiles aimed at Poland. Plus a tax on the restoration of Donbass.

                  Reformatting of ALL Ukraine is possible only if there are Russian regions in its composition

                  I do not think so. The population of the former Ukraine has common sense. If there is political will in Russia, it is possible to create states that are friendly or neutral with respect to Russia. For forces hostile to Russia, there are great places to live in Yakutia. But I am sure that after the defeat in the war there will be few of them - fractions of a percent of the entire population, not even a percentage. Although almost everyone in the kitchens will be indignant.

                  As you can see, there is no goal in the plans to destroy the inhabitants of b. Ukraine - from the word at all.
                  But at the same time, everyone who fights against the declared goals of the NWO will be destroyed. Or let them flee to the West. This option is quite working.
                  Ideally, minimal losses among the civilian population, but not at the expense of the lives of our military and not at the expense of abandoning the goals of the NMD.
                  1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 9 July 2022 13: 14
                    +1
                    Disagree. Long talk - just repeat what was said. In my opinion, what you propose is Utopia. There can be no friendly or neutral states on the territory of Ukraine. Control over their activities is possible only if there is an occupation administration. Following the example of post-war Germany or Japan.
                    Germany was demilitarized in 1918. Without creating an occupation administration. In 1939 received the Wehrmacht.
                    The creation of an occupation administration is possible only with the appointment of officials from the LDNR. All others will be pro-Ukrainian. Therefore, an independent Donbas MUST be part of Ukraine.
                    In any other case, it is a permanent war.

                    PS Do you want a strategy option for the West?
                    Zelensky is clearly inadequate. But if you put a colt (American or English) on his head, then he will sign everything that he is told.
                    The signing of the surrender of Ukraine. Surrender of all eastern regions. Preservation of Ukraine only Odessa and Nikolaev. Refusal of stupid demands for reparations and other nonsense. Preservation of Ukraine in a truncated form. Not joining NATO. Rejection of European integration. Unblocking all frozen assets of the Russian Federation, lifting all sanctions.
                    This is the most advantageous option for the West. And the most losing for Russia. It is not for nothing that the West offers peace in exchange for territories. This will mean the complete defeat of Russia. I'm afraid there will be many bloggers who will scream for victory.
                    Think about it.
                    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 July 2022 14: 17
                      0
                      Control over their activities is possible only if there is an occupation administration. Following the example of post-war Germany or Japan.

                      So what? Let there be an occupation administration.

                      The creation of an occupation administration is possible only with the appointment of officials from the LDNR.

                      Why would? Officials can be sent from Moscow.
                      The examples of Germany (GDR and FRG), Japan, and dozens of other cases show that it is quite possible to do without LDNR officials.

                      Preservation of Ukraine in a truncated form.

                      I don't think anyone needs it. Including the West. Especially with all the nishtyaks for Russia. The former Ukraine is a consumable item for the West.
                      Why make from piece b. Ukraine just the same idea - a fix of the West?
                      Sanctions and blocking of assets will remain even if we announce directly today that we are ending the war and are content only with the Donbass.
                      The termination of all sanctions and the return of frozen assets is a carrot that they beckon us, but will never give. Think about it.
                      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 9 July 2022 19: 16
                        +1
                        Ending sanctions is not a carrot. This is a real way to put Russia back on the oil needle. Think about it.
                        E. Reinert gave an interview in Kyiv, it seems, in 2018. Healthy man. His thesis is that you can ruin a country only by opening markets. In conditions of unequal competition.
                        But who listened...
  4. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
    DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 8 July 2022 00: 54
    +2
    It was understandable. Russia did not start a serious war. Perhaps the time has come.

    As for stupid questions, they are stupid questions because stupid people ask them. And probably stupid people do not need to answer.

    As for the Ukrainians, they will be killed as many as they do not lay down their arms. They have been warned about this many times. Express to Bandera runs non-stop.

    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 8 July 2022 08: 26
      +1
      Quote: DV tam 25
      As for stupid questions, they are stupid questions.

      There are no stupid questions. There are stupid answers.
      1. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
        DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 9 July 2022 01: 50
        0
        Offended child's cry. Don't sniff.)
        Mostly stupid posts. As above. Moreover, they are written by the same people who should not be answered.

        And you know, I did not answer you, this is my opinion). Expressing opinions is a MUST!
  5. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 8 July 2022 06: 52
    +1
    those who refuse peace negotiations,

    If you don't need them, why are you constantly reminding about them? Surrender, does Putin even know what the word is?

    By and large, we haven’t really started anything yet

    I taught my son from childhood: "I undertook to do it - do it right away, so as not to redo it later. Think, then do it." It's not for nothing that I pay attention to education. Bad guys rule!!
  6. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
    Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 8 July 2022 08: 43
    +2
    The people who have put a Jew at their head, especially an inadequate junkie, who has no blood relationship to the Ukrainian people, and therefore does not have pity for him, is no longer worthy of a conversation. And drives like cattle until the last Ukrainian
  7. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 8 July 2022 09: 11
    +2
    Of course it hasn't started yet. Even wagons from Russia and Belarus with goods still continue to go to Ukraine (or through Ukraine). Who will dismantle the railway there after that? Here come the NATO guns to the Donbass.

    The Shevchenkovsky District Court of Kyiv seized 315 wagons with mineral fertilizers, which belong to Russian and Belarusian companies. The press service of the General Prosecutor's Office of Ukraine reports that the cargo is estimated at about 360 million hryvnias ($12,2 million). July 04, 2022 at 16:12
  8. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 8 July 2022 11: 20
    +3
    Do we feel sorry for the Ukrainians? Here are the normal, pro-Russian Ukrainians, but it’s a pity. We are one people with them. But those who betrayed Russia, why should we feel sorry for them ... They are not just enemies. How are they better than the Anglo-Saxons, Germans, French. They are worse than them, they are traitors. They themselves have chosen their path.
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    2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 July 2022 19: 12
      +1
      Here are normal, pro-Russian Ukrainians, but it's a pity.

      There are very few of them. And initially.
      In 1991, about 90% voted for secession from the USSR.
      Ukraine then was in much better economic conditions than Russia.
      Russia seemed to them only an obstacle on the way to prosperity.
      And then their presidents - pizdrik broke off those who dreamed of catching a fish without difficulty. And the increased prices for energy carriers have caused powerful envy in the majority of the population b. Ukraine.

      Russia has come a long way in 30 years. We have learned a lot. A b. Ukraine is an example of how not to build a state. And do not refer to the machinations of enemies. 20% - intrigues, 80% - is the contribution of the inhabitants of the territory.
      1. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
        DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 9 July 2022 02: 01
        +1
        So in Ukraine there was no state in fact. But, in general, it was convenient to live there for all sorts of scoundrels. Cheap, warm and all issues were resolved for pennies. Yes, it was necessary to have pennies, but that is another question). For the same foreigners, Ukraine was a place of big bukhalov and trakhalov. With e to with tourism is a specialization of Ukraine. Naturally, they did not disdain the so-called. Ukrainians and smuggled goods, drugs, weapons traded in organs. And many other bad deeds were (and are) hunted by the so-called. Ukrainians. It is not for nothing that almost all "junior employees of the Sberbank Security Council" call from Ukraine. In short, Ukraine is evil. We must destroy it.
      2. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 9 July 2022 15: 35
        +1
        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        There are very few of them. And initially.
        In 1991, about 90% voted for secession from the USSR.

        And why are you modestly silent about the referendum on the preservation of the USSR, which was held in the same year and at which the idea of ​​preserving the USSR received deafening support (including in Ukraine).
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 July 2022 18: 28
          -1
          And why should I talk about what did not play any role? The collapse of the USSR followed the referendum I mentioned. At the same time, Ukraine and the result obtained in 90,32% played an important role.
          The referendum on the preservation of the USSR had tricky questions. They tried to deceive the people. But it didn't work out. The communists have completely lost the trust of the people.
          1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
            k7k8 (vic) 9 July 2022 23: 38
            0
            Played or not - not for you to decide. And the facts cannot be hushed up.
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          3. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 11 July 2022 11: 25
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            Isn't it a tricky question for Independence? To become an Independent, developed, rich European country .... In which the interests of everyone, including Russians, are respected. Deception all around. But it's time to turn on the head. A referendum always puts forward a question that will be given the right answer. Otherwise, there is no point for those who hold a referendum.
  9. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 8 July 2022 14: 37
    -1
    And I wish with all my heart - if death, then instantaneous, if the wound is not big. When the gentlemen fight among the people, the scalps crack.
  10. Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) 8 July 2022 22: 32
    +1
    Naked King!
  11. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 July 2022 23: 14
    -1
    But, everyone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything seriously yet, he added.

    When something does not work out, you can call it a joke, and do it again, but in a different way.
    This is what they do in childhood, when the consequences of a mistake are easily forgiven and thrown out of memory.
  12. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 July 2022 23: 38
    -1
    But, everyone should know that, by and large, we have not started anything seriously yet, he added.

    Everyone already knows, and not what "should", but what was and is. And to enter the river to fix everything is stupid, because the water in it has already changed.
    It needs to be done again, and in a different way, and not in Ukraine in the first place
  13. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 9 July 2022 10: 40
    -2
    This war, imperceptibly for us, changes our role in it.
    Instead of liberating the "fraternal people" from the Nazis (remember Putin's article), through the "destruction of the enemy's manpower" to which they are already connecting women and children, to the destruction of an entire nation ("war to the last Ukrainian"). Physically. These words are spoken without hesitation.
    I won’t be surprised if Ukrainian women and children who have lost loved ones begin to join this war voluntarily. "Themselves to blame" - this is, after all, a primitive, everyday level of understanding.
    The question is - what does this war do to us, to our own face, which we are accustomed to look at with sympathy in the mirror every time?
    What are we going to do with this new face in the world that we were going to make happy with our humanity.
    This war is a sabotage of the Shatats, yes.
    But we ourselves are advancing it towards the goal - dehumanizing ourselves - human.
    After all, the real goal of power in the NWO, which the Hegemon himself imposed on us, is to avoid a head-on collision with him, our main enemy, while this is still possible.
    The main culprit and enemy remains untouched by us, and in profit
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 9 July 2022 14: 03
      -1
      As from Ukraine, the States created weapons to dehumanize us, they create weapons from us to incite war in Europe. For this we need them dehumanized
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 9 July 2022 16: 23
      -1
      Probably only then do they plan to get their winnings - our resources, territory and the remnants of geopolitical space and influence. Europe, weakened by the war with us, will no longer be able to claim for anything, and itself will go to them for a snack