After the expansion of the NATO bloc, the composition of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation will have to be revised

After the expansion of the NATO bloc, the composition of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation will have to be revised

The entry into the NATO bloc of Sweden and Finland is a big problem for the RF Ministry of Defense. Soon, both shores of the Baltic Sea will legally become part of the North Atlantic Alliance, finally turning it into "NATO's inland sea." At the same time, the danger for the Russian exclave of the Kaliningrad region is increasing, and the question of the future prospects of the Russian Baltic Fleet is also sharply raised. Is it needed now at all, and if so, in what composition?


In the Soviet period, when the Baltics were part of the USSR, and our country had allies in Europe under the Warsaw Pact, the significance of the Baltic Fleet was completely different than it is now. In the event of the outbreak of hostilities against the North Atlantic Alliance, the Baltics had to restrain the activity of the NATO fleet and support the offensive of the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany on the territory of the Federal Republic of Germany. From the air, the ships would be covered by aircraft stationed, including in the friendly GDR.

Unfortunately, after the collapse of the USSR, everything changed dramatically for the worse. The Russian Federation no longer has any allies in the western direction, except for Belarus. The Kaliningrad region turned out to be cut off from the main territory of the country by the hostile Baltic states. Lithuania and Poland, surrounding it, joined the North Atlantic Alliance. The size of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation, stationed in Baltiysk, has decreased and is many times inferior to a potential enemy. The RF Ministry of Defense does not seem to be planning large-scale offensive measures deep into Europe, and there is nothing corny about it. The following figures can testify to how unequal the forces of Russia and the NATO bloc in the Baltic are.

Thus, the German Navy has 11 frigates, 5 corvettes, 19 minesweepers, 2 landing ships and 6 submarines, as well as a number of auxiliary ships. The Polish Navy has 2 frigates, 2 corvettes, 3 missile boats, 3 submarines (2 in service) and 1 minesweeper. Latvia has 8 patrol ships, 4 minesweepers and 6 patrol boats in the Baltic. The Lithuanian Navy has 4 patrol ships, 1 control ship and 2 minesweepers, the Estonian Navy has 2 coast guard ships and 3 minesweepers. The Norwegian Navy consists of 4 frigates, 6 corvettes, 6 minesweepers and 6 submarines. Denmark has 4 ocean patrol ships and 3 frigates, as well as 2 control ships.

And this is just what the NATO bloc has in the Baltic here and now, not counting the fleets of other allies, against 1 of our old destroyer of the Sarych type, which is under repair, the patrol ship Yaroslav the Wise (its brother in the Neustrashimy project) also under repair), 4 Guardian-type corvettes, 15 small missile and anti-submarine ships, 4 large landing craft, 2 small landing ships, 9 landing craft, 11 combat boats and 1 submarine. Soon, the North Atlantic Alliance will be officially reinforced with 8 Finnish patrol ships, 6 minelayers, 13 minesweepers and 2 landing craft, as well as 11 Swedish corvettes, 7 minesweepers, 12 patrol boats and 5 submarines. The advantage in strength is total.

Let us note the fact that all our potential adversaries in the Baltic Sea obviously relied on its mining in order to block the ships of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation, judging by the number of NATO minelayers and minesweepers. What worked in previous World Wars will work now. If desired, the North Atlantic Alliance can block our exit from the ports of the Kaliningrad region and the Gulf of Finland for St. Petersburg. What is even worse, the entire Baltic Sea is being shot through by anti-ship missiles of the DBK and aircraft with air-based anti-ship missiles. Soon both Baltic coasts will be under NATO control. But even in the port it is not a fact that it will be safe to sit out, since Russian ships can be covered right at the pier with long-range artillery from the territory of Poland.

In general, all this has been known for a long time. But the lessons of confrontation in the Black Sea simply force us to re-evaluate potential threats. The Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation is objectively now in a death trap, and the question is what to do with it now.

Try to strengthen it in order to create a semblance of parity with the combined forces of NATO? It's just unrealistic and doesn't make any practical sense. Whatever you do, the enemy will still dominate the region both at sea and in the air. How ingloriously Russian warships and boats are sinking, we have already seen enough, that's enough. Completely withdraw the Baltic Fleet somewhere to a safer place? Also not an option, since such a unilateral demilitarization of the water area by Russia will be unequivocally perceived by a potential adversary as an image victory. And where are these safe places these days?

All that remains is to reconsider the composition of the Baltic Fleet and set real tasks for it. It is probably worth leaving mainly small missile ships and other Caliber carriers in the Baltic as a means of deterring the NATO bloc. In the event of the outbreak of hostilities, cruise missiles will definitely not be superfluous, allowing them to deliver pinpoint strikes against enemy military infrastructure. On the Black Sea, everyone saw that our fleet is good at doing this.

Are frigate- or corvette-class ships now needed on NATO's "inland sea"? No, they have nothing to do there, they should be transferred to other Russian fleets. For example, a couple of project 20380 corvettes would now be very useful in the Black Sea in the confrontation with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Navy for Zmeiny Island, which we eventually had to give up. But so far the Turkish straits are closed, they realized it too late. Perhaps even more needed are PLO corvettes, patrol and landing ships as part of the Pacific Fleet, which has long been in dire need of reinforcement.

It is already obvious that the composition of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation must be reshuffled, taking into account the new geopolitical reality.
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  1. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 2 July 2022 12: 05
    +1
    The Baltic Fleet is needed in some form, if only because of the Kaliningrad factor. It makes no sense to inflate and strengthen it. Apparently diesel submarines should be its main striking force
    1. Vladimir1155 Online Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 2 July 2022 19: 40
      0
      submarines are the future! it is possible to create ultra-small submarines, but they are not, our large diesel submarines are just as meaningless in the Baltic as surface ships, because the sea is narrow and shallow, the submarine is easily calculated and destroyed there, it is necessary to strengthen the Northern Fleet, Kamchatka, diesel Okhotsk with diesel and nuclear submarines and the Black Sea, but not the Baltic
      1. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
        Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 2 July 2022 20: 06
        +1
        In the Baltic, the Russian fleet should be dominated not even by diesel submarines, they are really big, but by fuel cell submarines, small and completely silent. But I’m not sure that such technologies are available in the Russian Navy, unlike some NATO countries
        1. Vladimir1155 Online Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 2 July 2022 20: 11
          0
          I agree with you, it seems that they wrote something there with them, but everything is secret
          1. runway-1 Offline runway-1
            runway-1 (V.P.) 3 July 2022 13: 50
            +2
            It's not a matter of secrecy, but of design and technological difficulties that still could not be overcome.
    2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 10 July 2022 05: 14
      +1
      The Baltic Fleet is needed in some form, if only because of the Kaliningrad factor.

      If anyone needed it, it would be used. When did our Baltic Fleet do something useful for the country for the last time? Well, yes - it creates the illusion that we have the Baltic Fleet. That's all its purpose.

      For example, if Russia announces sanctions against Lithuania and tries to block Lithuania from the sea. Will our famous Baltic Fleet cope with this? I think no.
      How many years and billions of euros does it take to make something like strength out of an impotent?
      Nobody will answer this question.
  2. Pavel Mokshanov_2 (Pavel Mokshanov) 2 July 2022 12: 07
    +4
    To optimize the weapons of the Baltic Fleet, high-precision ground, sea and air-based missiles and strike strategic UAVs are needed. Large ships in a limited space will not be effective with the numerical superiority of NATO naval forces. Yes, and their construction will require a lot of time and money. And of course, anti-missile and air defense systems.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 2 July 2022 15: 58
      +1
      "To optimize the armaments of the Baltic Fleet" it is necessary to REMEMBER (and it is high time) that all these countries are not acting on their own initiative, but at the direction and under great pressure of the Hegemon.
      In order to stop the Hegemon's attack on us in all directions, and the situation worsens every day, we need to create a REAL threat to his (Hegemon's) existence. And be strong and persistent in this. Just like it did with the Hegemon of the USSR in 1962.
      Any other path, whatever you take, leads us straight - into the abyss
      1. Vladimir1155 Online Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 2 July 2022 19: 46
        +1
        I agree, but in order to strike at the hegemon, it is necessary to ensure the combat stability of the RPKSN, it is there in the North and Kamchatka that all surface ships of the first and second rank should be, and now rogue careerists parquet hereditary admirals have scattered ships across closed traps to the Black Baltic Caspian and Japanese seas, for cutting allowances and justifications for their stars on shoulder straps, while they threw our SSBNs to the mercy of fate
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 3 July 2022 00: 42
          +1
          For the threat of causing unacceptable damage in the first strike, the ground and air components should be enough with a large margin. Naturally, a massive counter response will follow our strike, but I don’t see another way to force the Hegemon to retreat
          1. Vladimir1155 Online Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 3 July 2022 06: 09
            0
            I agree, but the enemy is expanding missile defense, but SSBNs can cover the enemy more reliably from close distances, so their combat stability is important, although no one will, of course, deny the importance of the ground component of the Strategic Missile Forces
            1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 3 July 2022 11: 11
              0
              Ensuring proper combat stability of the SSBN will take time, the enemy will also not sit idly by, as a result we will not gain anything, and the drift into the abyss will continue.
              I think - you should not wait for the "Soramts" either - the massiveness of the threat is secondary. The time vector is important - the enemy skillfully uses it to neutralize the most dangerous decisions
  3. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 2 July 2022 12: 16
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    For example, a couple of project 20380 corvettes would now be very useful in the Black Sea in the confrontation with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ukrainian Navy for Zmeiny Island, which we eventually had to give up.

    Firstly, in the Black Sea there is no confrontation between the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation and the "Navy" from the word at all. Due to the lack of a "navy".

    Secondly, the island "Snake" is now reaching with cannon artillery, for the time being, from the "Ukrainian coast".
    And this cannon artillery does not work under the control of specialists from the "APU", but is serviced by regular NATO artillerymen.

    The wording in the article determines the degree of "sanity-in-the-topic" of any author.
  4. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 2 July 2022 14: 08
    +1
    At all times, the fleet in Russia provided - in one form or another - the flanks of offensive operations on land. And even if such support is modest, the outcome of the war with NATO in the European theater of operations will be determined precisely on land, and not at sea.
  5. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 2 July 2022 14: 17
    0
    The RF Ministry of Defense does not seem to be planning large-scale offensive measures deep into Europe, and there is nothing corny about it.

    Firstly, offensive operations "into" Europe (by the way, how "deep" - to Portugal?) are not only not planned, but generally considered. What for?
    And the point is not "there is nothing banal" (by the way, what is this statement based on?), but rationality.
    Because only "bloggers" and "analysts" can attack the radioactively contaminated territory...
  6. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 2 July 2022 14: 24
    0
    What worked in previous World Wars will work now.

    It will not work ... In the event of a direct threat to the existence of the Russian Federation, the enemy, that is, the NATO countries, will be struck by Russian tactical nuclear weapons.
    Will the United States "fit in" for Europe according to the "nuclear scenario"?
    Not a fact.
    Because Europe is the same economic competitor for the US as Russia and China.
    And when two "your" competitors are slandering each other - why should they interfere?
  7. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 2 July 2022 14: 49
    +3
    the composition of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation will have to be revised

    Yes, everything needs to be reviewed. Everything! Wherever you throw it, everywhere is a wedge.
  8. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 2 July 2022 14: 59
    +3


    If it were just a matter of the formal adequacy of Putin's words - still all right!
    But such were his actions (or rather, inaction), all 20 years, starting from 2004, when a whole group of countries, including the Baltic countries, joined NATO. If Putin had taken a tough stance then, everything would have ended there. Neither the States nor NATO were ready, and their appetite had not yet broken out - the plate was still far away.
    Another thing is now
    1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
      Dart2027 2 July 2022 18: 12
      -4
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      Take Putin then a tough stance -

      So what could he do then?
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 2 July 2022 23: 33
        +4
        Who are you talking about. About a schoolboy, or about the head of state. Could is not the right word! I had to, I had to. In the name of the future of Russia, the memory of our fathers and grandfathers.
        They took the veins out of themselves and did it. For this future.



        Putin, while collecting the "pod", half of which the West stole, lost 20 years, which the country could grow, returning what was lost.
        Who will return these years to us now, when the enemy is already at the gates?
        1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
          Dart2027 3 July 2022 08: 05
          -3
          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          Who are you talking about. About a schoolboy, or about the head of state. Could is not the right word! I had to, I had to. In the name of the future of Russia, the memory of our fathers and grandfathers.

          Well, what exactly?
          1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
            Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 3 July 2022 11: 26
            +2
            What he did not do and as a result of which we and the country under his leadership were in the current situation
          2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
            Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 3 July 2022 12: 07
            +3
            But he did not do it, I think, because the country is controlled by big capital, dependent on the West, behind his back. If Medvedev replaces him, it will be the same
      2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 2 July 2022 23: 59
        +1
        Here's another.
        Remember what has been done for us

      3. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 3 July 2022 11: 26
        +1
        What he did not do and as a result of which we and the country under his leadership were in the current situation
  9. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 2 July 2022 15: 10
    +1


    2022 - The number of revolvers put to our heads is increasing. Their free travel of the trigger is decreasing. It's getting harder and harder to get out of this situation.
    1. faiver Offline faiver
      faiver (Andrei) 7 July 2022 07: 34
      0
      trigger free play

      - probably all the same descent, not a trigger ....
  10. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 2 July 2022 15: 15
    -1
    Soon, both shores of the Baltic Sea will legally become part of the North Atlantic Alliance, finally turning it into a "NATO inland sea"

    During the Great Patriotic War, the Baltic was the "inland sea" of the Third European Reich... Now it has been replaced by the Fourth European Reich. So what?
    Is the exit from the Gulf of Finland to the Baltic Sea being mined? In response, the Danish Straits are mined, excluding NATO's exit from the Baltic to the North Sea.

    At the same time, the danger for the Russian exclave of the Kaliningrad region is increasing,

    From Belarus, a passage is “cut” through Lithuania to the Kaliningrad province and overland Latvia and Estonia with part of Lithuania are cut off from the “geyropa” ...

    In principle, for each author's: “Sentry! Everything is lost!" - there is a solution...
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 10 July 2022 05: 31
      +1
      It is very strange. The author constantly writes that Russia should invest in the construction of the Navy. At the same time, it does not offer any specific tasks for the fleet.
      Like we should threaten our fleet. At the same time, he is categorically against threatening nuclear weapons.
      You can threaten the fleet. For example, now in the situation with Kaliningrad. Why are there no proposals to use the Baltic Fleet to threaten Lithuania? Or is the Lithuanian fleet too terrible a force for the Russian Baltic Fleet?
  11. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 2 July 2022 15: 19
    0
    For Russia, NATO is not an enemy, but a target for our "vigorous loaves." What to worry about who else joined there? The United States for Europe will not "fit in" ...
  12. yakisam Offline yakisam
    yakisam (Alexander) 2 July 2022 18: 00
    +2
    Sergey, I am very interested in the meaning of the term "revise"
    Our government and the social group that created it almost 35 years ago wisely and in a state-like way decided that the DCBF should consist of ZERO warships. Silly zero. And this wise thought, which clearly has a scientific justification, was heroically and resolutely put into practice - like all wise thoughts aimed at saving the Motherland and getting up from your knees.
    Review it how? Like the country's leadership suffered from an inability to foresee ... the past. Now it's past. Or that it was "slightly underinformed" that ZERO is less than any other number? No matter how many "revised" ships to build - in total the enemy fleet in the Baltic consists of about 30 rank 2 ships plus an UNLIMITED number of ships from all NATO countries - we no longer have the coast of the GDR to close the Skagerrak and Kattegat at least theoretically. Our leadership said that Russia should help Germany to be able to attack Russia without hindrance, back in 1989 and now they are proud of it.
    How should we reconsider the fact that the Russian Baltic Fleet is actually the "Fleet of the Gulf of Finland" - after all, the Russian Federation does NOT have a Baltic coast at all, except for the one that washes "Kaliningrad Island".
    I don't think there will be any review.
    Even in the government there are enough people who understand that the Baltic Fleet should correspond to the share of the Baltic Sea that belongs to Russia after the successful policy of the Russian leadership over the past 35 years ...
    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 2 July 2022 22: 06
      -1
      Our government and the social group that created it almost 35 years ago wisely and in a state-like way decided that the DCBF should consist of ZERO warships.

      Tell me and everyone here about the state of the (real) DCBF in 1991...
  13. Vladimir1155 Online Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 2 July 2022 19: 52
    +1
    the respected author expresses a sound idea, what I have been writing about for years even before the loss of Moscow and Saratov and Orsk, that large surface ships are useless on closed seas, because they are destroyed by missiles from the coast, ..... but for some reason the author is in retaliation for me (for the fact that I’m smarter and smarter, and it’s weak for him to write goals and objectives to an aircraft carrier of a continental power) wants to transfer them from the Baltic not to the North where they are desperately needed, ....... but to the Black Sea Fleet where they have already shown themselves to be mass senseless death .....
  14. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 2 July 2022 21: 24
    +2
    The stump is clear, spending on the aircraft will increase. Especially given the difficulties with the Navy.

    So everything was calculated in advance, everything went towards this, no one wants to fall under "demilitarization by falling calibers."
  15. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 2 July 2022 21: 50
    -1
    It is already obvious that the composition of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation must be reshuffled, taking into account the new geopolitical reality.

    The Baltic Fleet was "shuffled" by the Soviet government, at its end ..
    For already in the 80s of the last century it was clear that it makes no sense to keep something serious in the Baltic.
    Training ships in Kronstadt, minesweepers in Tallinn and at least modern in Baltiysk.

    Now there is nothing to shuffle, it is enough to have escort ships to ensure the Ust-Luga-Kaliningrad line.
    In the case of real hostilities, everything will be decided on land.
    1. Vladimir1155 Online Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 3 July 2022 06: 22
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      this really useless Baltic Fleet is not so small, combat-ready 5 fr and krv, and in the Northern Fleet there are only 7 (2 kr, 2 fr new and 3 old fr 1155), with incommensurable water areas and the importance of tasks! it is impossible to deny the need to transfer to the North all surface ships of the 2nd rank from the Baltic Fleet and even from the Black Sea Fleet, it is necessary to strengthen the Northern Fleet
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 5 July 2022 23: 08
        +1
        not so small is the really useless Baltic Fleet, combat-ready 5 fr and krv, and in the Northern Fleet there are only 7

        I did not argue about the uselessness of the twice red banner BF.
        You yourself confirmed that it makes no sense to keep something more serious than corvettes, frigates (watchdogs) in the Baltic.
        The need to strengthen the North and the much forgotten Pacific is beyond doubt.
  16. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 4 July 2022 10: 28
    -3
    Ha.
    Rearranging the terms does not change the sum. School course.
    No matter how much you shuffle the Baltic Fleet, the reality will not change much.
    In the end, everything will remain as expected: the entry of sufficiently developed countries into NATO, the strengthening of the military-industrial complex of NATO, not the strongest shipbuilding military-industrial complex in our country.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 10 July 2022 05: 36
      +2
      not the strongest shipbuilding military-industrial complex in our country.

      But we are not bad with the rocket-building military-industrial complex. And if we choose what is more important for us, then I would strengthen rocket science. Cheaper, faster and more efficient. Let fools invest in shipbuilding.
  17. radvas Offline radvas
    radvas (Igor) 4 July 2022 11: 38
    0
    So how did you come to such a life? BUT? Such a strategy? How about Kutuzov?
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 6 July 2022 18: 50
      +1
      We need minesweepers and self-propelled mines that allow remote mining of enemy coastal waters.
  18. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 July 2022 06: 45
    +1
    Who would doubt that?!
    The task set to shape public opinion that we will fight NATO and Japan with conventional weapons is being fulfilled.
  19. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 July 2022 06: 48
    +1
    Quote: Ulysses
    In the case of real hostilities, everything will be decided on land.

    Nope. Everything will be decided in the air and in space. Land is the 20th century or local conflicts. A war with NATO or Japan will be completely different.