The situation around Svalbard is much more dangerous than the blockade of Kaliningrad


The situation with the ban on the transit of Russian goods through European countries has developed in the north of the continent. The day before, Norway suspended the permit for the transportation of goods for Russian miners located in Svalbard, which put them in a very difficult position.


Relations between Moscow and Oslo in this matter are regulated by hundred-year-old legal documents, according to which both sides can freely conduct economic activities in the archipelago.

Usually, Russian cargo was delivered to Svalbard from Murmansk, then proceeded to the Norwegian port of Tromsø through the Storskog checkpoint and then by sea to the Russian port of Barentsburg on the territory of the archipelago, in which about 500 people live. However, on June 28, the Norwegian side banned the passage of cargo through the Storskog, explaining this by Western sanctions. At the moment, there are about 20 tons of goods (including food) at the checkpoint, which the Russians living in Svalbard are looking forward to.

According to Oleg Barabanov, a political scientist and program director of the Valdai International Discussion Club, such a ban on the part of Norway is more dangerous than Lithuania's unwillingness to let a number of goods through its territory to Kaliningrad.

If Norway continues to resist and not let the goods through, then it will not be possible to supply our villages by sea, unlike Kaliningrad. Therefore, the situation is much more complicated, and in the worst case, Russian settlements will have to be curtailed.

- said the expert in an interview with the newspaper LOOK.

At the same time, Norway, unlike Lithuania, is not part of the European Union, so Oslo is not bound by any obligation to comply with anti-Russian sanctions by the EU. Despite this, the Norwegian authorities are going to a conscious boycott of bilateral agreements, thus putting Russian citizens in the archipelago on the brink of survival.
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  1. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 29 June 2022 17: 24
    -5
    Svalbard under blockade? Oh!!! Well!!! Well, what can I say? Again, the prospect of a third world war shone with a nuclear half-life at the dawn of mankind with renewed vigor. And two more months of this summer ... ahead.
  2. Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 29 June 2022 17: 32
    +7
    We need military escort of ships carrying cargo to Svalbard, by warships, always with nuclear weapons. The game begins with doubling the stakes and we must act decisively
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 June 2022 06: 02
      0
      We need military escort of ships carrying cargo to Svalbard, by warships, always with nuclear weapons.

      What for? It is enough just to publish information that preventing our ships from entering the island is a declaration of war on Russia. And if such an event occurs, then break off diplomatic relations and carry out a nuclear bombardment of Norway. For starters, low-power charges.
      I think that other NATO countries will be very grateful to Norway for its actions.
      1. Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 30 June 2022 06: 50
        +1
        No, that won't work. Suppose a Russian transport to Svalbard is attacked and sunk by an unknown submarine. At the same time, the Norwegians will say in a blue eye that they have nothing to do with it. What to do then? No, you need direct military escort. And nuclear weapons are needed for the convoy itself, so that it is not threatened by various kinds of flotilla
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 June 2022 07: 22
          -1
          No, that won't work. Suppose a Russian transport to Svalbard is attacked and sunk by an unknown submarine.

          Don't care whose submarine it is. I don't care what the Norwegians say.
          To state that with a high probability it was a Norwegian submarine. And further rupture of relations and nuclear bombardment.
          Who needs to find out the details - whose submarine? Maybe the Martians are pampering.
          Let Norway take care that our ships reach the island.
          You will also offer about litigation for guidance.
          1. Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 30 June 2022 07: 33
            +2
            And what, Russian transport, cannot attack an American submarine? Yes, easily. At least in order to substitute the Norgs instead. Moreover, it will most likely be an American submarine. There are a lot of them in this area.
            1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 June 2022 07: 51
              -1
              And what, Russian transport, cannot attack an American submarine?

              Of course it can. But what's the difference to us? Swara was brewed by Norway - and she will receive the consequences. And then let the Norwegian government in exile prove to the world that it was not her submarine. Europe gladly swallowed the evidence "with a high probability" in relation to Russia. We will answer them the same.
              1. GIS Offline GIS
                GIS (Ildus) 30 June 2022 08: 23
                +1
                you have logic .... your door was smeared with poop by gopniks from another district who mistakenly entered your entrance ...
                1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 June 2022 08: 36
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                  Who are you talking about? Who is our good neighbor? Norway? Or are you abstractly very kind? The fact that our people suffer you do not care-it's understandable. Feel sorry for the Norwegians. Like, what do they have to do with it?
                  1. GIS Offline GIS
                    GIS (Ildus) 30 June 2022 12: 04
                    +1
                    yes, nooooo, I'm talking about the fact that you piss off your neighbor ... unprovenly, only because you don't like him and he cut off the water for you (he said that the type of repair was not for long). I about it.
                    I didn't say he was a good guy
                    but for the fact that the Norwegians brewed, they need to give an answer, WITH EVIDENCE
                    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 June 2022 12: 14
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                      There is a progressive European practice. Treat "very likely" as evidence of guilt. And after the official statements of Norway, what else do you need? Of course the Norwegians are to blame.

                      If you start to prove to someone, then with a high degree of probability it will turn out that we ourselves sank our ships and generally owe five billion euros for violating some European rules. Who needs it?
  3. It is necessary to publicly flog their beetle, baring his pants!
  4. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) 29 June 2022 18: 11
    +8
    From impunity spit all and sundry . Oh yes. Another concern will be expressed .. A laughingstock!
  5. yuriy55 Offline yuriy55
    yuriy55 (Yuri) 29 June 2022 18: 15
    +12
    Let Medvedev go and develop. He famously gave Norway 175 sq. km of maritime space.
    1. Andre_ Offline Andre_
      Andre_ (Standre77) 30 June 2022 05: 10
      -2
      So he did not give for free
  6. So we will deliver it on our ship, eva delov!
  7. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 30 June 2022 00: 43
    -1
    it means that it is necessary to create a military naval base on Svalbard, the Norwegians violated the agreement, which means they de facto left it, the Russian Federation has a free hand
    1. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 30 June 2022 08: 27
      0
      or it can convene an emergency meeting of this group of countries (who has an agreement on Svalbard) + convene a meeting at the UN about this. call the press and ta-aaam already announce that the lives of citizens are in danger of death and the Russian Federation will have to stop this within XXX hours (how much food and fuel they have left) by force. and whoever gets in the way of a peacekeeping expedition to rescue citizens of the Russian Federation, then ... as they say: whoever didn’t hide, I’m not to blame.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 June 2022 08: 43
        -2
        Letting off steam once again?
        Accompany each ship with ships of the navy?
        Power methods - what is it? Another abstraction? Or will you smear someone's doors with "poop"?
        And if an unidentified submarine torpedoes one of our ships, then go to the court of Brussels?
        1. Raul Castro Offline Raul Castro
          Raul Castro (Lucifer) 30 June 2022 11: 16
          -1
          slish Expert_Analyst_Forecaster ,a chto ti konkretno predlogaesh? Tut kakie-to gluposti pisat i drugih kritikovat nettrudno,eto ne delaet tebja umnim i razumnim.
          1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 June 2022 11: 22
            0
            Read above.
    2. and the Norwegian habernator - to the gallows!
  8. Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) 30 June 2022 08: 58
    0
    And why is it impossible to deliver our goods directly "to the Russian port of Barentsburg" bypassing the Norwegian checkpoint? And give civilian ships military escorts?
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 June 2022 09: 43
      0
      give civilian ships military escort

      Bad example. Will we now accompany our ships around the world with warships?
      The problem must be solved, not adapted. Moreover, to adapt in the most economically unprofitable ways - how many times will the price of the cargo increase?
  9. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 30 June 2022 09: 41
    -1
    It's time to show what we have there with cartoons. Something was waiting for the tests of Strategic torpedoes with nuclear charges. I really don't feel sorry for Norway....
  10. Moskal 55 Offline Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 30 June 2022 17: 46
    +1
    The situation around Svalbard is much more dangerous than the blockade of Kaliningrad.

    ? !!
    How many citizens of the Russian Federation live in Svalbard, and how many in Kaliningrad and the region?
    Yes, it is possible that work will have to be curtailed in Svalbard, and Norway's dirty tricks will be done asymmetrically. The Russian Federation is not the USSR, but much weaker. We should not forget about it, despite our media. War, citizens! If we can help our country, we help and tolerate, but if we cannot, we only tolerate ...
  11. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 30 June 2022 18: 42
    +1
    The Kremlin, when provoking against Russia, almost always takes a patient pose, limiting itself to replies in Zakharova's remarks. Showing weakness, the Kremlin encourages those who wish to arrange the following provocations.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 July 2022 05: 09
      0
      A system is being created. The first two steps showed that Russia can be beaten without hesitation and looking back at previously concluded agreements. The further you go, the worse it will be. And from an economic point of view, and from the point of view of the authority of the country.

      The Americans were ready to start a nuclear war when the USSR tried to blockade West Berlin. The USSR retreated.
      Now they are blocking our Russian region, blocking access to the island where our people work.
      The fifth column shouts from all irons that we must accept and do nothing. Like, we threaten with empty words and that will be quite enough. The main thing, God forbid, is how not to harm our Western "parterres".
      Maybe it's time to show your teeth?
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    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 July 2022 05: 15
      0
      "NATO in Ukraine is not the same as NATO in Finland and Sweden"

      Here I agree with Putin. B. It is still a pity to bomb Ukraine with nuclear weapons.
      But Finland and Sweden are easy. Therefore, let them enter. Russia will produce several more modern missiles, and nuclear warheads are still in reserve.

      It is important to understand one simple thing here. Russia will not fight NATO with conventional weapons.
      If, as the fifth column demands, we fight with conventional weapons, then yes, the Armed Forces of Finland and Sweden are an additional plus for NATO, but for us a minus.
      But the war with NATO will only be nuclear. While the West is strenuously bringing this war closer.
  13. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 1 July 2022 08: 53
    0
    In response, introduce a complete embargo on trade with Norway and break the agreements signed by Medvedev with it, and let the Baltic Fleet go to sea, which can be significantly strengthened, since there are no straits controlled by Turkey ... let them wash themselves in Oslo ...
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 July 2022 09: 08
      0
      break the agreements signed by Medvedev with her

      What will it give? Nothing.

      let the Baltic Fleet enter the sea, which can be significantly strengthened

      What will it give? Only additional costs. And what task will the fleet be given - to go to sea?

      let them wash themselves in Oslo ...

      Oslo will not notice anything. But our people on the island will ask: "What did you do to help us?" And what should they answer?
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 1 July 2022 09: 22
        0
        Today it won’t give anything, but we’ll finish with Ukraine and the Russian fleet will cut off the Norwegian fishermen from the fish, let them suck their fingers ... Training firing of a pair of Yasen-type nuclear submarines may well sober up all kinds of not smart people in Oslo, but no, so after Ukraine we will decide with them. ..If you impose an embargo on trade in Oslo, they will notice ... What do you propose? Silently wash?
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 July 2022 09: 38
          0
          I already suggested at the beginning of the comments. Four steps. But ours did not even make the first one.
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Alexander) 1 July 2022 09: 43
            0
            The proposal is interesting, but not timely ... Now we need to finish with Ukraine, and then with the Balts ... 500 people can be evacuated to the Russian Federation and even provide them with apartments at the expense of the state, into property, the country will not go bankrupt ... but the Kaliningrad region , this is serious, there are a lot of people there and the value is much greater than that of a coal mine ... Everything must be decided in turn, according to the significance of the issue. They now want to draw us into a war on several fronts, it is not profitable for us ... We need to beat them, but in turn ...
            1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 July 2022 09: 51
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              Now we need to finish with Ukraine, and then with the Balts ... 500 people can be evacuated to the Russian Federation

              Are you also evacuating the Kaliningrad region? And what exactly did they promise you that such cases would not happen? And I guarantee you that similar situations will arise more and more often.
              And explain how the war in the territory b. Does Ukraine interfere with solving such issues? In my opinion, this is just an excuse. An excuse to do nothing. Wait for the problems to resolve themselves.

              What is preventing now to warn Norway and send your ship with cargo?
              1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                Sapsan136 (Alexander) 1 July 2022 10: 03
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                The Kaliningrad region will hold out due to deliveries by sea until the end of the operation to eliminate Bandera gangs ... After the liquidation of Ukrainian statehood, we will deal with the Baltic states, and after them there will be fewer people who want to yelp at the Russian Federation ... It interferes ... because a significant part of the Russian army is now involved in Ukraine and we cannot transfer all parts to the west, because of Japan, which is very (friendly) to us. If you warn now, then it will be necessary to fight if they send us from Oslo, with our warnings, to hell, and now it’s not profitable to fight on two fronts of the Russian Federation
                1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 July 2022 10: 28
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                  fighting on two fronts of the Russian Federation is not profitable now

                  Will this stop anyone? Enemies will wait until Russia is comfortable?
                  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 1 July 2022 14: 05
                    0
                    Well, it’s definitely not worth it to unleash a war on two fronts, without extreme necessity, it’s not in our interests now
              2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 July 2022 10: 05
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                And more about evacuation.
                If Japan blocks the Kuril Islands after this evacuation, will we also evacuate the population of the Kuril Islands? So that later, someday, after the war in Ukraine, or when we become stronger, or when an opportunity arises (underline as appropriate), we will deal with the Kuriles.
                But there was a time when Japan owned Sakhalin ... And it is quite possible that the Japanese have some kind of papers claiming that this is their island. Plan to evacuate Sakhalin?
                1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                  Sapsan136 (Alexander) 1 July 2022 10: 06
                  -1
                  Not someday ... I think we will finish with Ukraine within a year ... 70% of its personnel army are already dead ...
                  1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 July 2022 10: 26
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                    What's stopping you now? Or are you planning to start a conventional war with NATO?
                    1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                      Sapsan136 (Alexander) 1 July 2022 14: 06
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                      Are you sure that NATO will scatter to fight for Lithuania or Norway? I doubt it very much ... rather, nets ... they will merge, as in Afghanistan, and the crazy descendants of the Vikings themselves will have to die, as now the UKROPS, and before them the Georgians
                      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 July 2022 14: 13
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                        Are you sure that NATO will scatter to fight for Lithuania or Norway? I doubt it very much ... rather, no ..

                        That's why I write. There is nothing to wait. Now press until the flock is formed.
                        Our entire army or all of Russia's fleets are not needed there. Start simple - warn, and then send a ship. And then everything will become clear.
                      2. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 13 July 2022 21: 19
                        0
                        War on two fronts is always a bad idea
  • Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) 6 July 2022 18: 13
    0
    It is not true.
    The situation is much simpler than with Kaliningrad.
    It is possible to send cargo to the Russian port of Barentsburg on Svalbard, bypassing all checkpoints in Norway, delivering them by our ships, accompanied by the Navy.
    The legal basis for that centennial treaty you refer to.
    The Norwegians will not risk attacking our convoy, and if they do, they will get it in full.
    We will be right in this case and stop snot and make excuses with or without reason.