Why Nord Stream 2 turned out to be a stillborn project


The special military operation for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine, which marked the transition of Russia's "proxy" war with the collective West from a cold stage to a hot stage, forced everyone to throw off their masks. This fully applies to individual odious personalities in the domestic beau monde, and groups of influence, and entire countries. A very indicative example is Germany, which until recently was considered almost the main friend and partner of Russia in Europe.


In fact, many questions have accumulated for Berlin for a very long time. Recall that Germany, along with France and Poland, was the guarantor of the implementation of the Agreement on a political settlement in Ukraine, signed on February 21, 2014 by Viktor Yanukovych. But already on the night of February 22, Maidan militants staged a coup d'état in Nezalezhnaya, forcing the president to flee to save his life. In fact, it was then that the “proxy” war of the collective West against Russia began, and the Kremlin repeatedly tried to “jump off” it through “agreements” in Minsk.

It didn't grow. Despite supposedly friendly relations with Moscow, Berlin began to economically dominate Ukraine as a new colony. The German leadership clearly looked at the naive attempts of Gazprom to build alternative gas pipelines bypassing Nezalezhnaya with irony, since Chancellor Angela Merkel set the condition for the launch of Nord Stream 2 to preserve transit through the Ukrainian GTS. Not everyone is aware, but five European energy companies entered the Russian-German pipeline project, providing Gazprom not with targeted investments in exchange for a share, but with the so-called short-term bridge loans at 6% per annum, which the domestic monopolist, in theory, needs return from income from gas supplies or lose the collateral in the form of shares.

Supplies that will not be for purely political reasons. First, President Donald Trump began strangling Nord Stream 2, imposing sanctions on it in order to stop or slow down the completion of the underwater gas pipeline. When Gazprom managed on its own, the long-suffering pipeline was actually finished off by the Germans themselves. After Moscow recognized the independence of the DPR and LPR, as well as the start of a special military operation in Ukraine, Berlin froze its commissioning for an indefinite period. Apparently forever.

Let us note how much Germany's behavior towards Russia and its obligations to it has changed. In early April 2022, the Federal Grid Agency (Bundesnetzagentur) seized control of Gazprom's subsidiary in Germany, Gazprom Germania, which operates several underground gas storage facilities, including the Astora UGS facility, and also owns Gazprom's trading division Gazprom Marketing & trading. The stated goal of this "raider attack" is to ensure Germany's energy security. Even the Kremlin turned out to be morally unprepared for such an approach on the part of "respectable German partners", which was negatively expressed by the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov.

But now in Berlin they have clearly got a taste for solving their problems at the expense of the Russians. Thus, the influential German publication Der Spiegel, citing its own sources, recently reported that the government of Olaf Scholz is seriously considering the scenario of expropriating the onshore infrastructure of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline to ensure gas supply to Germany:

More terminals are needed, especially one in the Baltic Sea, to better serve eastern and especially southern Germany, including Bavaria. Until now, these regions have been directly dependent on the pipelines of Putin’s empire…

The federal government is studying whether the part of the pipeline system that is located in Germany should be expropriated and cut off from the rest of the pipeline. Pipelines leading from land to sea could then be connected to a mobile LNG terminal.

The idea is to raise the Russian pipeline from the bottom of the sea and cut it off from the land part, to which the Germans will attach a floating LNG terminal. The fact is that two new land-based LNG terminals in Wilhelmshaven and Brunsbüttel, which can reduce the severity of the problem, are still under construction and not ready for commissioning.

Brilliant plan to say the least! Judging by the statement of Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin is still in the stage of "denial":

Probably, if there are any specific actions, then first of all it will be a job for lawyers to give a legal assessment of such actions, if they are really being discussed. Without knowing the essence of what is happening, it would be wrong to say something.

What options will be left when the time comes for "anger"? To answer this question, we need to decide what, in fact, are the true goals of the Russian leadership? What do our “elites” want: to make peace with the collective West on terms acceptable to them, or to defeat it and take part in the establishment of a new post-war world order themselves?

We will not consider the first option, because it is disgusting, and there are enough numerous "tricks" without us, who themselves will come up with everything and explain 150 steps ahead. If our common goal is to defeat the “Western partners” and make them respect ourselves, then we must start fighting with them, hitting at the most painful points.

Are the Germans afraid to be left without gas on the eve of the heating season? This means that they must be left without gas right now, without giving time for the preparation and commissioning of alternative sources in the form of LNG terminals. Let the Europeans feel in their own skin what it means to find oneself in the "nineties", and ask their own authorities for it. And don't feel sorry for them! For some reason, they don't feel sorry for us at all.

Shame on Nord Stream 2, which is now being sawed down and expropriated? It has long been recognized that this is a stillborn geopolitical project, a consequence of the wrong decisions of the Kremlin in 2014 and its erroneous strategy to build bypass gas pipelines around Ukraine. Let lawyers fight for the expropriated ground infrastructure in court in search of compensation, but the underwater part of the pipeline can be used by making a branch to the Kaliningrad region, so that at least some benefit from it would be.

The truth is that Russia does not really need Nord Stream 2 or Turkish Stream, but it needs to take control of the entire territory of Ukraine and its gas transportation system in order to single-handedly determine how much gas and when it will receive Europe will either not get it at all. Right now, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation can solve this geopolitical problem, if they are not interfered with.
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  1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
    Adler77 (Denis) 26 June 2022 15: 30
    +2
    And now Russia cannot single-handedly decide when and how much gas Europe will receive?
    Maybe it's just the principle "only business, nothing personal" applies here?
    Or a variant - the solver has not grown;)
    1. Vladimir Tuzakov (Vladimir Tuzakov) 28 June 2022 12: 21
      +1
      That's right, you need to respond promptly and quickly. Countries that send weapons to the Ukrainian Armed Forces should immediately be included in the list of de facto warring countries against the Russian Federation and, accordingly, all relations should be interrupted and nothing should be supplied ... Now they are bullying the Russian Federation as they like, in response, the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry slurred under the nose, because it’s completely clear that there is a WAR against Russia ...
  2. beer puff Offline beer puff
    beer puff (Igor Trabkin) 26 June 2022 15: 31
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    Why was SP-1 not stillborn?
    The author knows that the SP-3 was planned between the Russian Federation and the Netherlands, but was canceled due to the downed Boeing?
    Does the author know that the GTS needs serious repairs?
    The author knows that Germany, at the expense of SP-1 and SP-2, was going to become a gas hub in Europe, and did anyone in Europe and the USA like this?
    SP-2 did not have time to enter, Russia and Germany lost this race.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 June 2022 06: 59
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      Why was SP-1 not stillborn?
      The author knows that the SP-3 was planned between the Russian Federation and the Netherlands, but was canceled due to the downed Boeing?

      Because the gas that went through the Ukrainian GTS, and not new volumes, was supposed to go through SP-2. SP-3 is generally the devil knows what.

      Does the author know that the GTS needs serious repairs?

      Yeah. And the fact that Merkel achieved Putin's promise to keep transit through Ua. That is, the goal of getting rid of Ukrainian transit was never achieved, and in the end, it would be Russia that would pay for the repair of the GTS.

      The author knows that Germany, at the expense of SP-1 and SP-2, was going to become a gas hub in Europe, and did anyone in Europe and the USA like this?

      These are her difficulties.

      SP-2 did not have time to enter, Russia and Germany lost this race.

      SP-2 has been built and is ready to start working. But it doesn't work for political reasons. So what's the problem, if it's a purely economic project? What prevented the Americans from finding a reason to stop its work at any moment, for example, in the event of Russian aggression against the UA, which, by the way, was warned about in advance?
      SP-2 is a purely geopolitical, stupid and failed project.
  3. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 26 June 2022 15: 44
    +1
    SP-2 was really needed. And needed now. It was a purely economic project that the West turned into a political one. But with the proposal to stop exporting any goods to the EU right now, I completely agree.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 June 2022 06: 54
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      SP-2 was really needed. And needed now. It was a purely economic project that the West turned into a political one.

      No, it was pure politics from the start. Not new gas was supposed to go through it, but the one that went through Ua. This is purely politics. And this bet turned out to be a bat.
      A stupid bet, because it was simply not necessary to surrender Ukraine in 2014.
      1. zloybond Offline zloybond
        zloybond (steppenwolf) 27 June 2022 07: 11
        +1
        In Russia, it is time to think about how best to deal with the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. Russia needs to dismantle the pipe from the border with Germany and wrap it in Kaliningrad. Why waste time. The new branch of the gas pipeline to Germany is idle. It will be the right economic decision. Gas carriers will be released.
      2. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 27 June 2022 08: 31
        +2
        Deliveries through SP-2 were two times cheaper than through Ukraine. This is pure economics.
        Deliveries through Ukraine have always ended in arbitrations and billions in fines. This is pure economics.
        Much has also been written about Ukraine's gas blackmail. Banal economy. No politics. Just stealing gas.

        The bet was absolutely correct. And SP-2 was badly needed. The only problem with the gas pipeline is that, for political reasons, they wanted to keep transit through Ukraine. It was this political component that turned out to be untenable. And now he is idle for political reasons. To the detriment of the economic component.

        It's elementary, Dr. Watson.
    2. special correspondent (oleg) 27 June 2022 11: 23
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      I would add that it is extremely important to stop ALL imports from the EU. Especially all sorts of polished mobile phones, clothes, cognacs, wines, gourmet products and other things in the same style. Only the necessary equipment and spare parts - nothing else. Moreover, to ban the entry and transit through Russia of any vehicles (produced in the EU and Japonia) that are registered in countries adjacent to Russia after February 24th. For now, we will have to make do with our own, Chinese and, to some extent, South Korean goods.
  4. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 26 June 2022 16: 13
    +3
    In fact, it was then that the “proxy” war of the collective West against Russia began, and the Kremlin repeatedly tried to “jump off” it through “agreements” in Minsk.

    The West has NEVER stopped war against Russia for centuries.
    This is the first.
    Secondly, it is impossible to “jump off the war”. It is either won or lost.
    Here the author has a clear violation of elementary logic
    Thirdly: in order to talk about the Kremlin's “agreements”, you must “be” the Kremlin yourself.
    Here the author clearly has delusions of grandeur.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 June 2022 06: 53
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      The West has NEVER stopped war against Russia for centuries.
      This is the first.
      Secondly, it is impossible to “jump off the war”. It is either won or lost.
      Here the author has a clear violation of elementary logic

      You have problems with the adequacy of perception

      Thirdly: in order to talk about the Kremlin's “agreements”, you must “be” the Kremlin yourself.
      Here the author clearly has delusions of grandeur.

      And here it is you, Vitya, who have problems with logic
  5. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 26 June 2022 16: 25
    -4
    Stalin did not understand anything in politics at all. Instead of fighting Hitler, he could sue him. But the thing is that neither the USSR nor Germany were of the same blood, as Germany and Russia are now. Nizya against his own people, because the people of Russia are nobody and nothing. And the lords are of the same blood, and call themselves the elite.
  6. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 26 June 2022 16: 38
    -2
    The truth is that Russia does not really need Nord Stream 2 or Turkish Stream, but it needs to take control of the entire territory of Ukraine and its gas transportation system in order to single-handedly determine how much gas and when it will receive Europe will either not get it at all. Right now, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation can solve this geopolitical problem, if they are not interfered with.

    Hmm ...
    Firstly. Russia does not need the entire territory of Ukraine under control.
    Russia needs Ukraine to cease to exist as an independent state in principle, and its territory to be divided among all "interested" parties. In this case, the borderline will pass directly between Russia and NATO, and there will be no territorial lining, with which you can provoke Russia for as long as you like. In the event of a "disassembly" of Ukraine into parts and NATO's entry to the many-kilometer border with Russia, any military provocation against Russia may end in a "nuclear strike" from Russia as a response.
    And this is a different level of consequences for NATO than fighting Russia "to the last Ukrainian."

    Secondly, it is not Russia that will decide how much to give/not give gas to Europe. It will be up to the EU to decide whether to take Russian gas on Russian terms or not.

    Thirdly, the "geopolitical problem" today is not in "Europe-with-Ukraine", but in changing the unipolar system of the world order as a whole.
  7. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 26 June 2022 16: 43
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    SP-2 is a strategic mistake of the Kremlin. of the same magnitude as the Minsk agreements, a XNUMX-day withdrawal of troops from Kazakhstan and leaving London in power as an agent of influence.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 June 2022 06: 45
      -3
      Thank you. Few adequate comment against the background of the rest.
  8. Victor Du Offline Victor Du
    Victor Du (Victor) 26 June 2022 16: 50
    -1
    Marzhetsky is known for his pessimistic talkativeness. Moreover, it is more designed for PR and likes than for common sense. Not Nord Stream (1,2) is needed, but a split in the EU, and, if possible, NATO. The funds spent on the pipe have already paid off. The profit that was expected has not yet been given, but we can already say that we have played a draw. Understand, the author in such an analysis would not write an obituary.


    Trumpet 2 will be the carrot at the nose of the European donkey. Stopping the flow of pipe 1 was expected, all that was needed was a suitable excuse. Not soiling Russia. The expected sabotage of scumbags on the pipe of Ukraine will complete what is supposed to happen. It is only necessary not to leave your fingerprints at all on the fragments of the pipe. Certification of Pipe 2 is instant and dust-free. Immediate delivery will be made after careful setup and final testing of the equipment. Perhaps in a couple of months. Compatriots will fry the offended sausage on a shish kebab. Even before the New Year.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 June 2022 06: 51
      -2
      Marzhetsky is known for his pessimistic talkativeness. Moreover, it is more designed for PR and likes than for common sense.

      Vitya II, you only remember that what I write about tends to come true.
  9. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 26 June 2022 16: 59
    +1
    In the comments to his own article: "It's time to create management and security structures of post-war Ukraine," the author writes literally the following:

    “Anyway, we will not take all of Ukraine into the Russian Federation, this is a fact”

    Here the author claims the opposite, namely:

    “…we need to take control of the entire territory of Ukraine…”

    Question to the author: how can you control what you don’t own, that is, “without taking it away”?
    However, the answer will be obviously “nimble”, they say: “to take away” in the composition is one thing, and “to control” is another.

    Yes, that's just the whole point is that Russia will be able to control only what it takes into its composition. For "in Ukraine" has long been controlled by the United States. And in the special military operation “in Ukraine” carried out by the RF Armed Forces, the territory of this same American control is being reduced.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 June 2022 06: 46
      -1
      In the comments to his own article: "It's time to create management and security structures of post-war Ukraine," the author writes literally the following:

      “Anyway, we will not take all of Ukraine into the Russian Federation, this is a fact”

      Here the author claims the opposite, namely:

      “…we need to take control of the entire territory of Ukraine…”

      Question to the author: how can you control what you don’t own, that is, “without taking it away”?
      However, the answer will be obviously “nimble”, they say: “to take away” in the composition is one thing, and “to control” is another.

      Vitya, in my articles I write that the rest of Ukraine should be taken into the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, but you are simply not able to understand this, alas.
  10. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 26 June 2022 17: 01
    -1
    For the economic activity of the Russian Federation in Ukraine, a Law is needed.
    It is necessary to legislate that the entire territory of Ukraine, seized by the separatists with the help of NATO, is the property of Russia.
    Then, in accordance with the Law, the military operation carried out by Russia in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia, the reunification of peoples.
    The presence of the Law will designate the goal, give certainty about the future to the citizens of Ukraine. Citizens living on the territory of Ukraine will not have to be afraid in the future for themselves, for persecution by the fascist regime. The military of Ukraine will go over to the side of the Russian Federation en masse, knowing that in the future they will become citizens of Russia and, if desired, military personnel of the RF Armed Forces.
    All actions of the Russian Army on the territory of Ukraine will comply with the Law. The law will not allow NATO to intervene, to bring troops from Poland, Romania, Hungary into the territory of Ukraine, and the annexation of Ukraine by these countries will automatically disappear.
    The absence of a law stating that the territory of Ukraine is the property of Russia allows Russia's enemies to interpret the ongoing special military operation as aggression and occupation by Russia and allows NATO countries to annex this no man's territory.
    There is only one decision on Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine should return to Russia, in the form of regions and republics. There is no need to ask permission from anyone, everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state of Ukraine, there are no debts, there is no government of Ukraine in exile, there are no Ukrainian participants in various international organizations, there is no hostile state on the border of Russia.
    If the state of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have a headache. Ukraine will definitely join NATO. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, in the way that is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.
  11. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 26 June 2022 17: 12
    0
    It has long been recognized that this is a stillborn geopolitical project, a consequence of the wrong decisions of the Kremlin in 2014 and its erroneous strategy to build bypass gas pipelines around Ukraine.

    First, as others have already noted, Nord Stream was not a geopolitical, but a purely economic project.

    Secondly, the decision to start its construction was made NOT ONE by the Kremlin, but together with the "European partners" interested in it. Moreover, the interest of the "European partners" was more significant.

    Thirdly, it was not the Kremlin that made a mistake - it was the European partners who made a mistake, considering themselves “free”, and not slaves of the United States.

    Fourthly, Russia has lost absolutely nothing, "beating off" the money invested in the Nord Stream pipes by increasing gas prices and signing new contracts with the same China.
  12. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 26 June 2022 17: 37
    +3
    If our common goal is to defeat the “Western partners” and make them respect ourselves, then we must start fighting with them, hitting at the most painful points.

    Are the Germans afraid to be left without gas on the eve of the heating season? This means that they must be left without gas right now, without giving time for the preparation and commissioning of alternative sources in the form of LNG terminals. Let the Europeans feel in their own skin what it means to find oneself in the "nineties", and ask their own authorities for it. And don't feel sorry for them! For some reason, they don't feel sorry for us at all.

    As the classic once said: "Horses, people mixed up in a bunch ...".
    First: "win" or force yourself to "respect"?
    Author! You decide...

    Secondly, the most painful point of the “collective West” is the hegemony of the US dollar in global finance. This is the same Koshcheev needle that if you break it, it will become very difficult for the "collective West" to breathe.

    Thirdly, Europeans already feel that without rubles in payment for Russian gas, it is “a pipe business” for them.

    Fourthly: the decline of Europe will follow completely different directions than the decline of the USSR in the "nineties" - a different mentality. And they will not ask from their authorities, but will try to ask “from us”.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 June 2022 06: 47
      -1
      What a tedious and incomprehensible graphomaniac you are ...
  13. Valera75 Online Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 26 June 2022 17: 43
    -1
    SP-2 will work and I think somewhere by the beginning of winter or the middle, since I have a suspicion that the Nazis will blow it to hell at the height of the heating season with the advent of frost. That's when SP-2 will start working. -it’s no longer the Kremlin’s mistake in general, but it’s very beneficial for the Germans, but not beneficial for the Anglo-Saxons, since Germany is a strong competitor for them and for this reason it is in idle time.
  14. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 26 June 2022 18: 10
    -3
    SP2 was built at the request of Merkelsha)) and possibly SP, SP1 also at her request, she became chancellor in 2005, and the joint venture began to be built in 2010.
    The Kremlin (Putin) really wanted to make friends with the FRG and reduce transit payments to the Poles for dill, and decided to build streams, which is normal, since the construction of gas pipelines loads the pipe production of the Russian Federation and quickly pays off even taking into account the previous low gas price (transit payments). and if the rotten sausage Scholz had not become chancellor, then SP2 would have been working now, in any case, the Russian Federation won: the high price of gas recouped the cost of SP2; flows are built on borrowed money from Western banks and the Russian Federation may refuse to pay loans at any time (wait for the launch of SP2) - empty pipes go to Western banks)) in this case, Gazprom generally exits the project dry with big profits that can be invested in the construction of LNG stations , LNG tankers. and into the gas pipeline to India through China
  15. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 26 June 2022 18: 58
    +2
    Damn it .. This journalist in each next article denies completely what he wrote in the previous one
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 June 2022 06: 48
      -1
      Are you able to argue this statement and somehow confirm it?
  16. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 26 June 2022 19: 30
    +2
    Marzhetsky: you need to take control of the entire territory of Ukraine and its gas transportation system in order to single-handedly determine how much gas and when Europe will receive or not receive at all. Right now, the RF Armed Forces can solve this geopolitical problem if they are not interfered with

    Sergey, why do you think that the Hegemon will allow us to finish the NWO with his victory?
    Is it in his interest? Does the Hegemon "have no moves" in Ukraine against the Russian Federation? Forgotten Poland, which is at a low start?
    How can one count on the victory of the NWO, given the common border between Ukraine and NATO?
    How can you expect to block it, if the States and NATO can create almost any concentration of forces there? At the same time, the States will benefit all this time, and out of danger.
    Probably then it is correct to talk about our victory in Ukraine over NATO.
    But.
    If this is not enough for the States, they are leading Japan into the game, creating another front for us.
    This means that we will also have to defeat NATO in the Pacific region.
    But.
    What if then they do something similar with Kaliningrad?
    ....Etc. etc.
    I think that a more realistic way out is to admit for ourselves that the SVO does not solve our main problem - forcing the States to peace on terms acceptable to us, and use (before it is too late) the tools we have to effectively influence directly on the States
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 June 2022 06: 49
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      Sergey, why do you think that the Hegemon will allow us to finish the NWO with his victory?
      Is it in his interest? Does the Hegemon "have no moves" in Ukraine against the Russian Federation? Forgotten Poland, which is at a low start?

      It can easily get in the way. But we must go to victory at any cost.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 27 June 2022 22: 55
        +1
        But we must go to victory at any cost.

        You understand that in order to go, you need the right direction.
        The direction we are going now (NVO), in my opinion, is MURDERING for us.
        For two reasons:
        1. It fully satisfies the goals of the Hegemon to weaken us, without harming him, but only benefiting him (downloading his military-industrial complex, spending our people, valuable weapons, resources, time and the remnants of trust in power).
        2. It does NOT bring us closer to the goal - to stop the Hegemon and force him to retreat, but OBSTRUCTS this goal, creating the illusion of movement towards Victory.
        If this lasts for a long time (and there will be no end to this - the Hegemon will not allow it) - we will simply bleed out and, exhausted, fall into the hands of the Hegemon, and he has already prepared a Sonderkommando for us that hates us with fierce hatred. We ourselves bring it now to the condition he needs.
        We will not be able to destroy it ALL, and it is not worth such a task. Against us will be (or already are) the entire people of Ukraine.
        You are a smart person and you should understand this.
  17. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 26 June 2022 23: 49
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    And as they wrote, and here, too, that SP2 is a win out of wins ....
    Articles flowed in a stream, how a PR pipelayer swam back and forth and how he was about to hit, how to swim ... then the truth was blown away ..... he allegedly could not hit ....

    Judging by the news about Gazprom's good gold awards, SP2 completed the task - it optimized the money, provided officials with bonuses and jobs, and continues to provide lawyers ....

    Well, capturing and dividing the ukrotruba is becoming a trend of the time ...
  18. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 27 June 2022 06: 49
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    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    Well, capturing and dividing the ukrotruba is becoming a trend of the time ...

    This is what should have been done 8 years ago. And not to capture, but to return.
  19. Oleg_5 Online Oleg_5
    Oleg_5 (Oleg) 27 June 2022 08: 50
    -1
    It was a great project. Just didn't make it....
  20. Victor Du Offline Victor Du
    Victor Du (Victor) 27 June 2022 11: 48
    +3
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Marzhetsky is known for his pessimistic talkativeness. Moreover, it is more designed for PR and likes than for common sense.

    Vitya II, you only remember that what I write about tends to come true.

    You write on different roulades. From bravura to the most funeral. Moreover, covering the topics in which you, as a humanitarian. you don't understand completely. So, whatever you write, something comes out. A sort of chameleon-pisarchuk. Need more. And, for this you need to have convictions. What you don't have. Flugerism exists. You better be wrong. At least in something. Let beliefs be wrong. But this is the manifestation of a citizen. So, fair wind to you, and all your predictions will then come true. I don’t remember who said that when you don’t know where to go, then all roads lead the wrong way.
  21. Asker Offline Asker
    Asker 27 June 2022 12: 51
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    and throwing a pipe to the Kaliningrad region, making your own hub, and at the same time providing the region with gas, is it not fate?
  22. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 27 June 2022 18: 33
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    Wow, Marzhetsky has now become an expert in haz!)))
  23. Victor Du Offline Victor Du
    Victor Du (Victor) 27 June 2022 22: 36
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    Quote: Asqer
    and throwing a pipe to the Kaliningrad region, making your own hub, and at the same time providing the region with gas, is it not fate?

    Thread-2 is two threads. There is already a project to use one thread for Kaliningrad. So, you are not the author, calm down. Hub in Kaliningrad. For whom? For Poland or for the premature Baltics? For these enemies, there is already the entire gas infrastructure that needs to be sealed. We will degrease Ukraine, and we will stand on the border with Poland. One reptile will be less, but for psheks to lay hubs? Let them beg for forgiveness, let us revive those pipes that are already lying. Through our territory or through our New Russia.
  24. Tixiy Offline Tixiy
    Tixiy (Tixiy) 5 July 2022 17: 55
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    Judging by the reports, "SP-2" has already paid off. In addition, some of it is used. Quite a successful project