The collective West is pushing the Kremlin to sign "Minsk-3"


The further the global economic crisis, the more movements begin to "reconcile" with Russia from the collective West. First, some kind of compromise with the Kremlin on Ukraine was discussed in Italy. Now the ideas of Rome have been supported and developed by the specialized American publication The National Interest. Let's evaluate what we are offered in exchange for the shed blood of Russians and Ukrainians.


The first trial balloon was thrown at the end of May 2022. According to La Repubblica, the peace plan, according to the Italian authorities, included the following main provisions: a ceasefire and complete demilitarization on the front line; preservation of Donbass for Kyiv on the rights of full autonomy; Ukraine's accession to the European Union in case of renunciation of membership in NATO; conclusion of a new agreement with Russia on arms control. Apparently, in Europe, this is how they imagine a gnawed bone thrown to a mangy dog ​​under the table.

It is not surprising that such a "generous offer" was not to the liking of even the domestic comprador "elites". Having made certain conclusions, the Americans came out publicly with a new proposal thrown into the media space through The National Interest. Below will be given 15 points of Minsk-3, if, of course, they will go for it in the Kremlin.

Item 1. Russia is abandoning its attempt to remove the Zelensky regime by force, recognizing its legitimacy. In return, Kyiv declares complete neutrality, making appropriate changes to the Constitution. After that, the independence and territorial integrity of Ukraine will be ensured by the permanent members of the UN Security Council.

Item 2. Kyiv recognizes Crimea as Russian and refuses to try to return it by any means.

Item 3. Moscow is withdrawing Russian troops from all territory of Ukraine, with the exception of Donbass.

Item 4. On the territory of the DPR and LPR, under the control of the UN, a second referendum will be held, in which the population will be asked whether they want to return to Ukraine or remain independent. If Donbass chooses Kyiv, then it is subject to complete demilitarization and the withdrawal of all troops, both Russian and Ukrainian. Russian rights will be protected at the level of the Basic Law of Ukraine. If he chooses independence, then, at the request of Donetsk and Luhansk, our troops will be allowed to stay there.

Item 5. Moscow will not hinder and even support Ukraine's bid to join the European Union.

Item 6. Kyiv will forever refuse any cooperation with the NATO bloc, with the exception of the supply of small arms and the deployment of military bases on its territory.

Item 7. The number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be reduced to 150 thousand people with 100 thousand reservists.

Item 8. Ukraine will have to give up all its "strike weapons" and their development, including weapons of mass destruction. All foreign biological laboratories should be closed after Russian inspectors are admitted to them.

Item 9. All prisoners of war and refugees must return home.

Item 10. There will be no international tribunals for war criminals, no one will pay reparations.

Item 11. The United States and the European Union will assist in the restoration of Ukraine.

Item 12. After the signing of Minsk-3, all diplomatic ties between Russia and Ukraine and NATO countries are restored.

Item 13. After the signing of Minsk-3, all anti-Russian economic sanctions will be lifted, and the seized assets will be returned.

Item 14. Washington and Brussels will give Moscow written guarantees against NATO expansion to the east and along Russia's borders. True, the Kremlin will still have to turn a blind eye to Sweden's entry into the alliance.

Item 15. Russia will be included in the European security system with the restoration of the INF Treaty and the CFE Treaty, the presence of NATO and Russian troops in Europe will be reduced.

This document needs some commentary. As you can see, in the collective West they decided to throw a fatter bone to their Russian partners. On the one hand, the domestic comprador "elites" instead of "Minsk-3" will have the opportunity to return the seized assets and lift the suffocating economic sanctions. Having received written guarantees of Kyiv's refusal to join the NATO bloc and offensive weapons, the Kremlin will be able to shake this piece of paper with a proud look of a winner.

On the other hand, Russia is abandoning its territorial acquisitions in the Donbass and the Sea of ​​Azov, again exposing Crimea to the threat of being left without water supplies and without a reliable land transport corridor. Ukraine's entry into the European Union will mean the collapse of the alternative Russian integration project of the Eurasian Economic Union, as well as the Union State. Kyiv's refusal to join the NATO bloc can hardly be considered a big victory, since no one really expected Ukraine in the North Atlantic Alliance. At the same time, the legal ban on NATO membership does not exclude cooperation between the Independent, for example, with the Anglo-Saxon military alliance AUKUS. Other regional alliances of Ukraine are also possible, for example with Poland and Great Britain. The ban on holding international tribunals for Nazi criminals will deprive the inhabitants of Donbass of the right to fair retribution, and Russia itself - a powerful trump card in the geopolitical game with the collective West, which has tarnished itself by supporting the criminal regime in the "brown colors". The inclusion of Moscow in the new European security system will de facto mean forcing Russia to give up its powerful offensive weapons, those very “Putin missiles”, which turned out to be not quite “cartoons”.

They say you criticize - offer. Well, let me present an alternative peace plan for Ukraine. It will be three times shorter than The National Interest.

First. The regime of President Zelensky is recognized as a terrorist one and is subject to complete liquidation, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard of Ukraine are to be disbanded.

Second. After the appearance of Russian military-civilian administrations on the territory of historical Novorossia and the termination of Russophobic propaganda, referendums are being held there on the issue of joining Russia as regions within the new federal district. Kyiv officially recognizes the South-East as Russian territory.

The third. On the territory of Central and Western Ukraine, a referendum is being held on the transformation of a unitary state into a federal state with the western regions receiving the rights of broad autonomy. The Constitution of the newly created Ukrainian Federation establishes Russian as the second state language. What remains of the former Square becomes a member of the CSTO, the Eurasian Economic Union and the Union State of Russia and Belarus. The Ukrainian Federation officially becomes a Russian protectorate.

Fourth. An international tribunal is being held over all Nazis and war criminals, with the involvement of everyone as observers. Complete denazification in policy, social life and culture, the ugly Russophobic educational reforms are cancelled. Special "stop lists" are being introduced for holding positions in the state and municipal service by those who have previously been seen in active Russophobic and Nazi activities.

Fifth and last. The Ukrainian Federation assumes financial obligations to participate in the restoration of the destroyed Armed Forces of Ukraine of Donbass, as well as to pay compensation to family members of dead and crippled Russian soldiers and the People's Militia of the DPR and LPR. To reinforce the lesson.
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  1. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 23 June 2022 11: 07
    +6
    One more item is needed. Sixth.
    The security guarantees of the Russian Federation imply the deployment of Russian military bases on the territory of the Federal Ukraine. Let's say ten years, at least. Location and strength can be discussed. Basically, these should be missile defense bases, following the example of those located in Romania and Poland.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 23 June 2022 11: 14
      +1
      All this, in theory, is included in the clause on turning the UV into a Russian protectorate.
      1. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 24 June 2022 22: 02
        +3
        Marzhetsky, a protectorate is a form of dependence, doesn’t it remind you of anything? And who will go for it? Further. All your points are not worth a penny because of the presence of belonging - Ukrainian. It doesn't matter what, federation or any other entity. The word - Ukraine must disappear from this territory forever!
  2. m.cempbell Offline m.cempbell
    m.cempbell (Anton) 23 June 2022 11: 49
    +3
    Article plus. Wish to the author - Sergey, there are a lot of correct theses in your articles, but they simply drown against the background of the verbal water with which you surround them. I really want more articles like this - clear, concise and to the point. Thank you.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 23 June 2022 13: 37
      0
      Much water? You haven't read Mister X yet... smile
      It seems to me that all my articles are extremely specific and concise. hi
      1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
        Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 23 June 2022 15: 01
        -2
        Mr X writes normally. And you write well too. Spit on the critics.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 23 June 2022 15: 11
          -1
          I write beautifully. smile
          Criticism is different, if it is constructive, I take it into account. If these are stupid raids, I send them.
      2. alspas Offline alspas
        alspas (Alexander) 23 June 2022 15: 57
        0
        You are right, there is minimal water in the article, if any.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 23 June 2022 16: 25
          0
          I'm just not a fan of large volumes of text and spreading thoughts along the tree. A journalist or publicist should be able to logically, concisely and reasonably express his thoughts.
          Giant text "footcloths" tire me terribly both when writing and just when reading. But someone likes it. And if there is demand, then there will be supply.
          Everyone is different, you can't please everyone.
    2. ocean969 Offline ocean969
      ocean969 (Leonid) 24 June 2022 11: 30
      0
      That is not a frequent case when I completely agree with Marzhetsky. Short, concise and to the point. Thank you.
  3. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 23 June 2022 12: 00
    +17
    There is only one decision on Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine should return to Russia, in the form of regions and republics. There is no need to ask permission from anyone, everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state of Ukraine, there are no debts, there is no government of Ukraine in exile, there are no Ukrainian participants in various international organizations, there is no hostile state on the border of Russia.
    If the state of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have a headache. Ukraine will definitely join NATO. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, as it is beneficial to the United States and its satellites. Any other decision on Ukraine is from the evil one.
    1. 1_2 Offline 1_2
      1_2 (Ducks are flying) 23 June 2022 12: 13
      +12
      Ukraine is not a state, it is a colony of enemies of the Russian Federation on Russian soil and it is only subject to disposal
    2. alspas Offline alspas
      alspas (Alexander) 23 June 2022 16: 01
      +2
      Doubt about debts, no matter how they hang on Russia in this case.
  4. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 23 June 2022 12: 11
    +10
    no UV should be in nature, as it was not until 1918-22, a complete cleansing of the Russian land from pro-Western filth
  5. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 23 June 2022 12: 12
    -4
    The plan proposed by the author is good, of course, but hardly realistic. We need something not so straightforward, because it means an endless exhausting war with the West. It is really necessary to fix the Russian status of the Novorossiysk regions through referendums held under Russian control but in the presence of foreign observers. We don't care about the rest of Ukraine, as long as it can't join NATO. In the absence of Russian energy resources, the rest of Ukraine will fall apart by itself
    1. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 23 June 2022 13: 10
      +2
      eeeeee, here you are in vain like that.
      it must be a RF-controlled territory or territory of the Russian Federation. no pieces of the former shukr should remain, so that even the "government in exile" would be without territory, even if it was drummed with a flag. but Ukraine should go down in history.
      I suggest the USSR. the flags are already there.
      1. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
        Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 23 June 2022 14: 42
        -3
        In my opinion, this is an unbearable task for Russia, a war with the collective West, and the facts confirm this. How long has the operation been going on, and the shelling of Donetsk is only intensifying. That is, even the LDNR cannot be called a “controlled” territory. What then to say about the rest of Ukraine?
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 23 June 2022 15: 12
          +2
          It's just that Donbass is one continuous fortified area. When it is liquidated and the Armed Forces of Ukraine cease to exist as a combat-ready force, everything will change dramatically.
          In the rest of Ukraine there are no such echeloned fortifications and never will be. And there will be no one to fight there, the personnel will remain in the Donbass.
          1. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
            vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 23 June 2022 20: 48
            +3
            The war will go on until the Russian troops occupy the territory of the whole of Ukraine and liquidate Ukraine as a state. NATO will give money, weapons, soldiers. We must always consider the worst option for the Russian Federation in this war with NATO in Ukraine.
            1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 23 June 2022 22: 53
              +1
              The war will go on until we force the States to end it.
              For them, the world did not converge like a wedge on the territory of Ukraine. Thinking like that is naive and beneficial for the enemy. It's like scooping water out of a sieve. There is also Poland, Hungary, the Baltic countries, and now Sweden and Finland
              For this reason, Ukraine is a trap into which we climbed, yielding to pressure from the States.
              This concession is a separate and sad story for us.
              All efforts should have been directed to the States from the very beginning, and even now this has not changed. True, now - with one foot in a trap.
              If we act the way we do now, in order to achieve success, we will have to deprive the States, after Ukraine, of ALL of the listed countries
  6. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 23 June 2022 13: 40
    +4
    Any agreements with our enemies are not worth the toilet paper they turn them into.
    This will be another successful strike against Russia.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 23 June 2022 14: 59
      +2
      Agreements with them are possible only from a position of strength, and these enemies are not close to Ukraine, but to the United States of America
  7. FGJCNJK Offline FGJCNJK
    FGJCNJK (Nikolai) 23 June 2022 13: 51
    +7
    eeeeee, here you are in vain like that.

    This is exactly right! If there is even a piece of land left in the Carpathian region or in Transcarpathia, the smelly Galician French filth will come out again after a while. You have to get to the very end. In figs, all these agreements with all their "points". STOP FUCKING ABOUT RUSSIA!
  8. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 23 June 2022 14: 58
    +5
    I offer my own version: 1. The victory of the Russian Federation and the unconditional surrender of the US-Kyiv junta with the complete elimination of the sub-state "Ukraine".
  9. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 23 June 2022 15: 53
    +5
    Having received written guarantees of Kyiv's refusal to join the NATO bloc and offensive weapons, the Kremlin will be able to shake this piece of paper with a proud look of a winner.

    This is somewhat reminiscent of September 30, 1938, when British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich Agreement, transferring part of the territories of Czechoslovakia to Adolf Hitler's Germany. He then also shook the paper with the air of a winner.
  10. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 23 June 2022 16: 29
    +1
    Clause 6. Kyiv will forever refuse any cooperation with the NATO bloc, with the exception of the supply of small arms and the deployment of military bases on its territory

    why take them to NATO if it's better than NATO?

    Point 7. The number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be reduced to 150 thousand people with 100 thousand reservists

    ours have already thinned them out. If the Anglo-Saxons are the first to offer this, albeit in a similar way and from afar, then it’s already unprofitable for them, then what is the situation at the moment and they are trying to get out
  11. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 23 June 2022 16: 30
    +1
    Quote: Bulanov
    Having received written guarantees of Kyiv's refusal to join the NATO bloc and offensive weapons, the Kremlin will be able to shake this piece of paper with a proud look of a winner.

    This is somewhat reminiscent of September 30, 1938, when British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich Agreement, transferring part of the territories of Czechoslovakia to Adolf Hitler's Germany. He then also shook the paper with the air of a winner.

    Very correct historical parallels!
  12. InanRom Offline InanRom
    InanRom (Ivan) 23 June 2022 16: 45
    +8
    All good plans are usually not fulfilled, all the worst ones become reality.
    And given that the aspirations and desires of the people and those in power and officials differ like heaven and earth, good things cannot be expected.

    The highest note of the president's speech was his words about sovereignty
    Russia: “Sovereignty in the XNUMXst century cannot be partial, fragmentary, everything
    its elements are equally important. They reinforce and complement each other. That's why
    it is important for us not only to defend our political sovereignty, national
    identity, but also to strengthen everything that determines the economic
    independence of the country, financial, personnel, technological
    autonomy and independence." Indeed, without the sovereignty of Russia
    fail to achieve the goals set for the special military
    operation in Ukraine. Also do not win that sanctions war,
    which the collective West launched against us on February 24th. Also don't stand
    in that global economic crisis that could start in the West
    not today or tomorrow, and which can cover Russia with its powerful wave, if
    it will not have time to achieve sovereignty.
    The topic of Russia's national sovereignty is the "red line" up to which
    reached the President of the Russian Federation in his speech. But he didn't move on.
    And how I would like V. Putin to cross the “red line” and say what
    many expected to hear from him. I was also expecting. It is forbidden
    disagree that sovereignty consists of a number of elements, “all of it
    elements are equally important. They reinforce and complement each other."
    The first thing I would like to hear is: what is the national ideology of Russia?
    The foundation of national sovereignty is the national idea
    and national ideology. It is the beginning that holds people together. In the article
    3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation states: “The bearer of sovereignty and the only
    the source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational
    people". Absolutely correct position.
    But Article 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation states: “The Russian Federation recognizes
    ideological diversity. No ideology can be established
    as a state or mandatory. So the national ideology
    we don't, and as you can imagine, her appearance would be a violation
    Constitution. And without it, the call for national sovereignty
    remains a wish.
    Second. In his speech at SPIEF, as well as in his other speeches
    the President of the Russian Federation says the right words about social justice, which
    also holds the people together, and, consequently, creates conditions for the establishment
    Russian national sovereignty. But all these words hang in the air
    since social justice can only be established by changing
    socio-economic model of present-day Russia. But unfortunately the head
    our state does not concern the general assessment of this model, it only allows
    criticism of its individual aspects. Moreover, I have never heard of
    he voiced the name of this model - "capitalism".
    And the universal law of capitalist accumulation (one of the main
    economic laws of capitalism) says that the result of such an accumulation
    is the concentration of wealth at one pole of society and the concentration
    poverty and misery on the other. Social injustice not only undermines national sovereignty.
    It negatively affects all aspects of social life. For example, labor
    hired worker enriching the oligarch cannot be effective
    and creative.
    The thought arises that, being the President of the Russian Federation, Putin is guarding
    inviolability of the capitalist structure of Russia.
    Third. Today, against Russia, the actions introduced by the collective West are
    economic sanctions. This is a sanctions war that is already underway
    four months. Even if hostilities in Ukraine cease
    in the coming months, then the economic war is "for a long time and in earnest." And we have
    there is still no economic strategy for Russia. We didn't have it before.
    (they said that, they say, the liberal market economy "self-regulates",
    She doesn't need a strategy or plans.) But today, in the conditions of war
    with the collective West, we need economic mobilization. And she
    is impossible without strategy and long-term directive planning. In 2014, import substitution programs for the period up to 2020 were adopted in 23 areas (industries and industries). And they all failed. The most interesting thing is that neither the government nor the president conducted any "debriefing" about these programs. Everything was put on the brakes. We have not heard that at least one of the officials was fired for the failure of import substitution.
    One of the main officials responsible for import substitution is
    Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov (since 2012
    of the year). At the forum in St. Petersburg, he told everyone how to correctly understand
    import substitution. It turns out that this is not necessarily an import substitution
    domestic product. He proposes from now on to consider that import substitution
    can be considered the replacement of a product imported from one country with a product
    imported from another.
    I am now talking not only and not so much about import substitution, but
    about the irresponsibility and impunity of officials. Everyone knows that simple
    and a reliable indicator of the responsibility / irresponsibility of officials
    is the execution / non-execution of orders of the government and the president.
    From this point of view, perhaps 99 percent of senior officials should
    classified as irresponsible.
    By the way, Vladimir Vladimirovich quite often began to use the term
    "fifth column", but did not name any names. Alas, at SPIEF the President
    did not name names. Professor V. Katasonov

    with such a "preservation of the current order of things" by officials of all stripes, "ilitka" and oligarchs, maybe Minsk3 and Khasavyurt2, or maybe worse.
    And no heroic actions of Russian soldiers and officers fighting the Nazis will prevent this. It is impossible to defeat the country, the people and the army, but it is possible to betray ...
    Meanwhile:

    15.20 German Defense Minister Christina Lambrecht:
    The German military plans to train the Armed Forces of Ukraine in handling the Mars II multiple launch rocket system. The training will take place in Germany and could start as early as next week.

    another answer:

    15.00 Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova:
    Moscow strongly demands from Washington to stop the open recruitment of mercenaries, which is carried out by the Ukrainian embassy in the United States. The participation of US citizens in the fighting in Ukraine threatens to turn into unpredictable and severe international consequences.

    it would be better to be silent.

    The Minister of Defense of Ukraine announced the arrival in the country of the MLRS HIMARS from the United States
    Head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Oleksiy Reznikov announced the arrival of HIMARS MLRS from the USA in the country
    A batch of American HIMARS multiple rocket launchers arrived in Ukraine. This was announced on his Twitter by the head of the Ministry of Defense of the “square” Alexei Reznikov.
    He thanked the head of the Pentagon, Lloyd Austin, for sending weapons, NSN writes. “HIMARS arrived in Ukraine. Thanks to my American colleagues and friends for these powerful tools!” Reznikov wrote. As you know, Kyiv promised Washington that it would not use this technique to strike targets on Russian territory.

    but who, being in their right mind, would believe Kyiv?!
    in the meantime, the court, yes, some people continue to "pay their debts" to those who robbed Russia and wage a hybrid war with it, bend and fawn:

    14.20 Statements by the head of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation Anton Siluanov, the main thing:

    — the termination of payments on Eurobonds in foreign currency and the transfer of payments into rubles does not mean a declaration of default on the external debt;

    - it is possible to announce the occurrence of Russia's default only after the entry into force of the court decision, but the court will not be able to consider the claim on the merits;

    - The EU and the US are creating artificial barriers for the Russian Federation to service its debt in order to hang the label "default";

    — it would be correct to recognize as a default the refusal of foreign financial intermediaries to fulfill their obligations, this damages their reputation;

    — there is no reason to regard the change in the currency of payment for the state debt as improper fulfillment by the Russian Federation of its obligations;

    - the transition to settlements on the state debt of the Russian Federation in rubles was provoked only by the refusal of foreign counterparties to make payments in foreign currency;

    - Russia will have to go beyond the legal field if the EU and the US will foreclose on the diplomatic assets of the Russian Federation;

    - if the US and the EU foreclose on diplomatic assets, the Russian Federation will regard this as a break in relations;

    - the former trust in the Western financial infrastructure, obviously, will no longer exist.

    with such "patriots" and defenders of Western interests and values, there is no need for enemies ...
    1. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 23 June 2022 18: 21
      +2
      Great, Ivan. I subscribe to every word.
    2. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 24 June 2022 21: 50
      -1
      Ivan, you complain about the lack of state ideology and list the terrible horrors because of this absence. It would be interesting to get acquainted with your version of the state ideology. I won't be surprised that it will be based on "equality and fraternity of the entire population of the country" read, the absence of a fundamental basis - the division into rich and poor, which is bullshit. It is for this reason that there is no state ideology in Russia!
      Who has so much water in the text that they fill up ...
  13. akm8226 Offline akm8226
    akm8226 23 June 2022 17: 59
    +2
    The Constitution of the newly created Ukrainian Federation establishes Russian as the second state language.

    Excuse me - as the first and only state. Mova should be uprooted forever.
  14. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 23 June 2022 18: 17
    +5
    It can be even shorter - the complete disposal of the "Ukraine" project.
  15. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 23 June 2022 19: 51
    +3
    The Russian Federation has been declared an enemy and no one has canceled the task of "defragmenting" it. Therefore, there can be no compromise, there can only be a respite.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 24 June 2022 18: 45
      +1
      And the States will try not to give us a break. Why would they give us a chance?
      What grounds do we have for expecting this from them?
  16. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
    Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 23 June 2022 21: 18
    +3
    Any Minsky 3 or 7 there is a loss in the war, an awareness that will come later, even to our descendants. Only the complete and unconditional surrender of the Jewish-Anglo-Saxon government and the entry of Ukraine into Russia, the rest will come back to haunt us, oh how dear. And the motto of the war must be corrected as "The liberation of the Slavic Ukrainian people from the influence of the diabolical Jewish-Anglo-Saxon".
  17. Materialist Offline Materialist
    Materialist (Michael) 23 June 2022 21: 22
    +2
    no Ukraine. demilitarization, denazification, tribunal. the West lifts sanctions, pays compensation for restoration and rolls off to the state of 97. the next sentence will be worse.
  18. Peace Peace. Offline Peace Peace.
    Peace Peace. (Tumar Tumar) 23 June 2022 21: 23
    +2
    Quote: Bakht
    One more item is needed. Sixth.
    The security guarantees of the Russian Federation imply the deployment of Russian military bases on the territory of the Federal Ukraine. Let's say ten years, at least. Location and strength can be discussed. Basically, these should be missile defense bases, following the example of those located in Romania and Poland.

    "NATO military bases in Ukraine" - ish what they want, and our Western "partners" did not fledge too early. The best time and place to cut off their claws and hit their beaks is simply not to be found.
  19. Awaz Offline Awaz
    Awaz (Walery) 23 June 2022 21: 56
    +1
    such proposals for the Russian authorities may turn out to be interesting and they can really go for this because most of the officials are heavily pressed by sanctions. Well, that is, I won’t say that it’s catastrophic for them, but it’s a pity at home in Italy, France or London ...
    1. GIS Offline GIS
      GIS (Ildus) 24 June 2022 07: 50
      +2
      I wish I could "clean" them all now .... it's time
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 24 June 2022 13: 48
      0
      So that's what I'm talking about. Throw a bone to the dogs.
  20. Omas Bioladen Offline Omas Bioladen
    Omas Bioladen 24 June 2022 02: 06
    -2
    Siebentes. Kadyrov erhält den Friedens Nobelpreis für seine Leistungen in Mariupol.
    Achtens. McDonalds und McDonalds wird es nicht erlaubt sein sein Junkfood jemals wieder auf Russischem Boden zu eröffnen.
    Neuntens. Die EU wird aufgelöst und eine Neubildung verboten.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 24 June 2022 13: 47
      -1
      Der Zehnte. Deutschland bleibt ohne russisches Gas.
  21. Andrey Filippov_2 (Andrey Filippov) 24 June 2022 03: 49
    +2
    This is similar to the requirement of the Nazis during the Second World War for Soviet troops to surrender!
    They would have gone through the forest, like the Poles under Godunov, and would have drowned in their vomit, but not in the swamp!
  22. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 24 June 2022 08: 54
    +3
    The Minsk betrayal of 2014 cannot be repeated. The faith of the GDP in the decency of Western partners has disappeared somewhere. And the situation is different: then betrayal did not solve global problems. Well, they fooled Putin and subjected the Donbass to an 8-year war and murders with impunity. Today, betrayal can put an end to Russia as well.
    1. Alex D Offline Alex D
      Alex D (Alex D) 24 June 2022 17: 40
      +2
      Absolutely agree. It's amazing to me how they fell for it twice already. From which I conclude that our side had many interests to prevent the Slavs from rising. We probably will not endure the third betrayal, and the Ukrainians will do the same and the goal of the puppeteers will be fulfilled, which will never suit us.
  23. Alex D Offline Alex D
    Alex D (Alex D) 24 June 2022 17: 37
    +2
    It seems to me that all these points are one big lie. Fall for this - it's like death. Throw once again and will laugh. This is like "God loves a trinity" - a mockery of the dead and injured as a result of sanctions. They will take a break and start fighting again. They have one goal there - to create a desert according to the Morgenthau plan.
  24. InanRom Offline InanRom
    InanRom (Ivan) 24 June 2022 19: 27
    +4
    Instead of the already promised and boring "attacks on decision-making centers", some kind of "business showdown":

    16.40 Statements by the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin during his speech at the BRICS +, the main thing:
    - Russia does not interfere with the export of grain;
    - the imbalance of world relations has been brewing for a long time and has become the inevitable result of the line towards the erosion of international law;
    - the jump in prices for basic goods most of all hit the developing countries, where bread and flour are a necessary means of survival for the main segments of the population;
    - Russia is ready to ensure the free passage of ships with grain into international waters if the Ukrainian authorities contribute to the demining of ports;
    - a sharp increase in inflation in the world - the result of several years of irresponsible work of the G7 countries, and not a special operation by Russia;
    - The West artificially develops hysteria about problems with the delivery of Ukrainian grain;

    again the "interests of business", and not the people and the state?!
    What kind of grain, what kind of export, if the West says openly that Russia must be defeated at any cost?!
    however ... the same as the supply of resources to Russia's enemies, payment for transit to the regime, the ongoing payment of "supposedly debts to those who pocketed Russian reserves, a decrease in the percentage of foreign exchange earnings to exporters, an increase in the amount of exported currency to Western banks, etc.

    16.30 Head of the Duma Committee on Financial Markets Anatoly Aksakov:
    “We don't need dollars if we can't spend them. We cannot buy United States products due to sanctions. We cannot spend euros because we are not being sold European products. Why do we need such a currency?

    a great financier ... they are not needed, but the Central Bank accumulates them, they are not needed, and exporters accumulate them in their accounts, they are not needed, but at the same time everything is tied to the dollar and the euro and there is no ban on the currency within the country?!
    "Do not sell European / US products"? Is there no mind to do one’s own or are Western interests lobbied?! and 30 years of "import substitution" with such talking heads in the Duma and the government?!

    RIA Novosti. From July, Sberbank will introduce a commission of 1,25 percent for transfers to cards of other banks
    Starting July 1, 2022, Sberbank will charge a fee for transferring money through applications and on the websites of other banks in the amount of 1,25%, a minimum of 30 rubles, a maximum of 150 rubles, according to the website of the state bank.

    war is war, and the profits are on schedule.

    Member of the Committee of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation on constitutional legislation and state building Olga Kovitidi: To restore the Kherson region, it is necessary to develop a federal target program similar to the one that was developed for the Crimea.

    how the money was stolen for the restoration of the Crimea, the Crimeans are very well aware, but here the SVO is still going on, explosions are thundering in Kherson, arrivals to Russia are becoming more frequent, and someone is already looking forward to "cutting" the budget, and by the way, why was there no federal program for the restoration of Donbass all these eight years, but there were only murky schemes of coal trade between Russian oligarchs and Ukraine?!
    In the meantime, politicians, officials, businessmen and bankers are "working" "tirelessly" on paper, in the media and in lining their own pockets, the West is consistently continuing the line of destroying Russia, and not on paper. And the shelling of Donbass and arrivals on Russian territory are becoming more and more intense.
    But the "fifth column" does not want a change in the status quo, and therefore everything boils down to business showdowns with "colleagues and partners", and not a war against the "united" West, for the sake of the survival of the country and people.

    24/06/2022

    Putin specifically noted that the imbalance in the system of international relations has been brewing for a long time and has become "the inevitable result of the line of the supporters of the so-called liberal world order to erode international law and undermine multilateral institutions."
    Interfax

    It is interesting that all the supporters of this "so-called liberal world order" are quite "respectable people" in high positions and friends of the president. From Kudrin and Gref to Siluanov and Nabiullina...

    January 19 2014

    Russian President Vladimir Putin, in an interview with a number of Russian and foreign television channels, affirmatively responded to a statement by a journalist who asked him to confirm that he was "a true liberal and holds liberal views."

    and if the president is going to change something for the better or otherwise, then why is "things still there"?
    I would not like to remind you, but the visit of the liberal Burkhalter in 2014 to the Kremlin led to 8 years of shelling of the Donbass, suspended in the air, and the strengthening of the regime. And since then, with the exception of the "modest" departure of the "special adviser to the President Chubais, the environment of the head of state has not changed
  25. guest Offline guest
    guest 25 June 2022 00: 59
    0
    In return, Kyiv declares complete neutrality, making appropriate changes to the Constitution.

    Well, this is no longer possible as it is incompatible with EU membership.
  26. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 26 June 2022 14: 44
    0
    The collective West is pushing the Kremlin to sign "Minsk-3"

    laughing wassat Don't make me laugh at my old age! Literally...................wassat