Saving "Taira": the victory of our negotiators or the image defeat of Russia


Undoubtedly, the most resonant event of recent days is information about a certain exchange of prisoners of war, as a result of which the so-called “paramedic” of the Azov regiment (an extremist organization banned in the Russian Federation) Yulia Paevskaya, better known as Taira, was released. Judging by the angry comments on this newsour society is divided. What was it, a big victory for the negotiators or a heavy image defeat for Russia?


The topic of Russian prisoners of war, their ill-treatment by Ukrainian sadists and a possible exchange is very painful, and therefore there can be no unambiguous attitude towards it in principle. But still we will try to find the truth and give the correct answer to the question posed.

Is it worth one child's tears?


The day before, information was leaked to the press about how this very “Taira” Paevskaya was exchanged for one of the Russian prisoners, which was first denied, but then confirmed at the level of the Deputy Minister of Information of the DPR Daniil Bezsonov:

We were bombarded with questions about this one... Someone says that her exchange is a fake. I will answer. Tyra was exchanged. Exchanged for very serious of our guys. Why there is no information on this from our side, I do not know. Perhaps there is a reason for that.

“Very serious guys” are, apparently, Russian pilots who were taken prisoner. In Ukraine, the "legendary paramedic" was greeted like a real heroine, and President Zelensky promised to release all the captured "Azov". This message caused a storm of indignation in Russia and, especially, in the Donbass. If we try to generalize the opinions expressed, then there are two polar positions.

On the one hand, it is quite rightly pointed out that many of our guys are languishing in terrible captivity in Ukraine, who are treated very cruelly there. One can understand the feelings of their family members, who are literally begging for the Russian soldiers to be exchanged for anyone, if only all this would stop and they would return home safe. According to this point of view, the prisoners must be changed at the first opportunity. The exchanged pilots will be able to get back into service, and there will be no great harm from some kind of “paramedic” released back home. In war, everything is now decided by a large number of barrels and shells fired, and then we will catch this "Taira" and others like her again if we want to fight again. Bezsonov himself spoke in favor of this point of view:

A little more on the exchange. Our specialists (several people), who perform the most difficult tasks deep in the rear, in case of detection and capture, definitely deserve to be exchanged for one paramedic, albeit an extremely stubborn one.

On the other hand, apparently, not just a "stoned paramedic" was released to all four sides, but a seasoned cold-blooded killer who escaped a well-deserved punishment. Here is how Russian military commander Dmitry Steshin once commented on the information about her capture:

An ambulance was stopped at the exit from the city in the direction of Mangush/Berdyansk. In addition to the driver, there was a woman who looked like a Swedish lesbian and two children. The woman's name was Taira... Taira killed the parents of these children from the ambulance... And she tried to intimidate the children in order to pretend to be their mother.

So it was or not, we will not know for sure, since the guilt of a person is established only by the court, which will no longer be in relation to Taira. Paevskaya was exchanged without a tribunal over her, and at least one serious crime of the “Azovites” will go unpunished. We must be aware that a simple “paramedic” will not kill innocent people in front of their children, intimidating them in order to leave the “Azov” citadel doomed to fall (banned in the Russian Federation). This means that "Tyra" had something to fear for previous deeds, and how easily she could commit a double murder speaks volumes. The version that she did not heal, but killed people, being a sniper, seems much more realistic.

What will be the consequences of such an exchange? Alas, but extremely negative for you and me.

At first, this is a real spit in the souls of both ordinary residents of Donbass and Mariupol, in particular, and its defenders. People yearn for justice and retribution against the Nazi criminals who terrorized them for over 8 years in a row.

SecondlyWhatever you say, this is a big image victory for the Zelensky criminal regime, which began to fulfill the promise to rescue the “heroes of Azov”. Now there is more than enough incentive to grab everyone in a row to increase the exchange fund. The precedent has been created, and the promise not to exchange the Nazis in principle is empty chatter.

Thirdly, such a deal with the Nazis is another doubt in the souls of Russians and adequate Ukrainians that the special operation will end with the 100% liquidation of the criminal Kyiv regime. Pandora's box is open, and the non-exchangeable "Azov" still began to be exchanged. Who will be returned next? Where will the attack stop? What will be recorded in Minsk-3? Questions, doubts...

The long-term consequences of such an exchange can be very serious. So what was it, a victory for the negotiators or our defeat?

Saving Private Shishmarin


According to a number of media reports, in Ukraine, a Russian prisoner of war, Vadim Shishmarin, was sentenced to life imprisonment, who was blamed for the murder of a certain resident of the Sumy region. Why Kyiv is holding such show trials is not difficult to guess: a media propaganda effect and a subject for a new bargaining with Moscow on an exchange.

On whom? Probably, on some "Radish" or "Volyn". But is it necessary to go towards the Ukrainian Nazis, giving them what they want to receive, writing down their victory? What is more important, our prisoners who found themselves in a terrible Ukrainian captivity, or a tear of an innocent child, or rather, two, in which an aunt from Azov (banned in the Russian Federation) shot their parents, and now she went to Kyiv like a heroine, avoiding a well-deserved punishment?

This is a very difficult dilemma. Of course, our prisoners of war must be returned by any means and at the first opportunity. Almost any. It is possible to make an exchange only for the APU-shnikov, but not for the ideological Nazis-“Azov”. These non-humans in human form for their crimes must be punished to the fullest extent of the laws of the DPR!

All our guys who were taken prisoner, including due to mistakes in planning the SVO at the initial stage, are very sorry, as well as their families. But these are still professional soldiers who knew that this could also happen to them when they signed the contract. Military service, with all its hardships and risks, is their conscious choice, and captivity is its negative consequence, no matter how cynical it may sound. But the Russians don't abandon their own, do they? How can we save Private Shishmarin and other Russian soldiers from captivity, whom Kyiv will fundamentally refuse to return if it does not receive the desired “Azov”?

There is only one option. We must win. It is necessary to make sure that this criminal regime falls without being preserved on a piece of Ukrainian land. And the sooner this happens, the sooner our prisoners of war will be able to return home. And in order for them to return intact, it is necessary to make it clear to these non-humans in human form that they will then be searched all over the world and found if the treatment of the Russians is inhumane.
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  1. bobba94 Offline bobba94
    bobba94 (Vladimir) 19 June 2022 13: 36
    -1
    Emotions aside, in wartime, emotions are very harmful .... Before the exchange, they calculated everything to the smallest detail, without "feelings" and snot. If the exchange took place, then so be it.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 June 2022 14: 05
      +2
      Before the exchange, they calculated everything to the smallest detail, without "feelings" and snot.

      Right? Just like before the start of SVO?

      If the exchange took place, then so be it.

      Undoubtedly. The question is to whom and why.
      1. Antey Offline Antey
        Antey (Andrey Telichko) 19 June 2022 15: 42
        +7
        Sergey, the topic is important, but why didn’t you write anything about who she was exchanged for? This immediately resolves the issue with the moral and ethical assessment of the event. There were no fictional "pilots - gunners". And there was a Chechen bandit, a citizen of Ukraine, the son of our high-ranking Chechen Murad Saidov. The father, who made a bastard into a Ukrainian woman, did not even leave his last name to his son (he turns out to be a half-blooded nokhcha!), but rescued him from captivity by muddiing a criminal exchange scheme. Here is such a heroic "saving our guys."
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 20 June 2022 06: 45
          -1
          To be honest, at the time of writing, I simply did not have information about the personalities for whom they were exchanged.
          True, this does not change the essence of the issue, it simply puts new ones.
        2. Natalia B Offline Natalia B
          Natalia B (Natalia Balashova) 20 June 2022 22: 39
          +1
          Quote: Antey
          And there was a Chechen bandit, a citizen of Ukraine, the son of our high-ranking Chechen Murad Saidov.

          it wasn't, it wasn't true. Kadyrov has already announced that he will attract liars under Article 207.3 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
    2. Avarron Offline Avarron
      Avarron (Sergei) 19 June 2022 20: 51
      0
      Yeah, or who needs to bring as much as they need.
      1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
        Roma Phil (Roma) 20 June 2022 02: 19
        0
        Correspondent of the Russian Channel One Irina Kuksenkova writes that, according to her information, Tayra was exchanged for a Chechen, giving 25 million rubles in addition to her.
        And "Strana ua" writes that a young Chechen (20 years old) did not fight and just lived peacefully in Ukraine.
        1. Natalia B Offline Natalia B
          Natalia B (Natalia Balashova) 20 June 2022 23: 16
          +1
          Kuksenkova is already giving back, referring to some connections with Khokhols from the GUR, like, how much she bought, then she sold ...
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  2. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
    Pat Rick 19 June 2022 13: 41
    -8
    First of all, this painted was exchanged by Donetsk, and not "our negotiators."
    Most likely, as a result of this, all the Kalin-Volyns were rounded up and sent to Russia "to conduct investigative measures", after which they are unlikely to return to their native lands.
    Finally, I do not think that this was such an event that one should talk about so much.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 June 2022 14: 06
      +3
      First of all, this painted was exchanged by Donetsk, and not "our negotiators."

      How sovereign are the DPR and LPR? What can be decided there without Russian curators?
      Do not make me laugh.

      Most likely, as a result of this, all the Kalin-Volyns were rounded up and sent to Russia "to conduct investigative measures", after which they are unlikely to return to their native lands.

      One has already returned.

      Finally, I do not think that this was such an event that one should talk about so much.

      This is just your opinion. There are other opinions about this.
  3. Chervony Biker Offline Chervony Biker
    Chervony Biker (Red Biker) 19 June 2022 14: 04
    +9
    the main thing in the article - There is only one option. Gotta win, and then we will "hang"
    1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
      gorenina91 (Irina) 19 June 2022 14: 23
      +16
      the main thing in the article is that there is only one option. We must win, and then we will "hang"

      - Before victory is still far away; Yes, and a "truce" can take place !!!
      - So you have to start hanging - yesterday !!!
  4. Andreysradinsky Offline Andreysradinsky
    Andreysradinsky (Andrew) 19 June 2022 14: 28
    -5
    If they changed, then it had to be so, there was nothing to let snot. There are no fools, neither from this side, nor from that side.
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 19 June 2022 14: 58
      +6
      There are no fools, but there is a real betrayal of what this all started for. Here the soldiers are exchanged for marshals. Stalin did not teach anyone anything. There is a war of feudal lords and crusaders, when kings were redeemed for money.
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 June 2022 15: 11
      0
      And there, and there are a lot of fools
      1. Panikovsky Offline Panikovsky
        Panikovsky (Mikhail Samuelevich Panikovsky) 19 June 2022 15: 21
        +1
        Do not trifle, there are only fools and cretins around, only you are smart, as in Irtenev's poem-

        I wander alone among the crowd
        And I see no equal in her.
        How stupid are all people?
        Why am I smarter than all of them.

        All others are much dumber
        There is no such thing as equal to me.
        I am the only one equal to myself in the crowd.
        Only one.
        Yes, and that is not quite.
        1. Antey Offline Antey
          Antey (Andrey Telichko) 19 June 2022 15: 46
          +3
          Yeah, and do not forget to add the favorite thought of local patriots - guards (also from one famous poet): "a big giraffe - he knows better!"
        2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 June 2022 17: 12
          -1
          Yes, smarter than most.
  5. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 19 June 2022 14: 55
    -1
    For what money and why did it start, if it has no basis, but only a thick pile of money, or maybe gold, or can scare the people on both sides of the front?
  6. NatiKoshka_87 Offline NatiKoshka_87
    NatiKoshka_87 (Ela) 19 June 2022 16: 46
    -7
    In addition to the driver, there was a woman who looked like a Swedish lesbian

    Seriously? Do lesbians of the type have characteristic differences and appearance? Isn't it time to throw off these bonds and stereotypes, prejudices and obsolete conservatism?)
  7. valeriy chernenko (valeriy chernenko) 19 June 2022 16: 47
    +7
    I think that it is necessary to judge those who made a decision on the exchange, they are also accomplices, exchange for serious people '' that's a damn comedy, there are no serious people in captivity.
  8. Pacer Offline Pacer
    Pacer (Pacer) 19 June 2022 17: 12
    0
    Citizen Marzhetsky, as always ahead of the whole planet ...
    Here is what the more dedicated write -

    "exchange and everything around", for all cases -

    - an international adventurer with implanted transmitter chips in her ass?!
    Note* The patient was undergoing hip joint replacement surgery. The Jews write, "this is how it is done" so that the agent is in control and see who needs it.

    - a paramedic can be a grassroots link of criminal black international transplantologists, of course, not even every sovereign country can resist the financial power of these structures

    - an ambulance with two children?! with "mom"? No, and not maybe. clear explanation of this fact

    - prezik Ze, who is smeared with brilliant green on his forehead with the newly-minted "hashim-tachi 2.0"? It will be interesting if he still manages to escape from the NWO network, but then they "pin" him in involvement ...

    Dig further
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 19 June 2022 20: 40
      0
      Conspiroluh detected
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 20 June 2022 06: 59
      0
      I see a stream of incoherent delirium.
      According to the personalities for whom they were exchanged, there is already a lot of new information.
      1. Pacer Offline Pacer
        Pacer (Pacer) 20 June 2022 10: 09
        0
        I see a stream of incoherent delirium.

        Well, the Chukchi is a pester ... He is not able to read and analyze ...
        1. Go through what sane Jews write.
        2. The ins and outs of saury-taira - who, what was trained and so on.
        3. Where and why do "paramedics" / "doctors without borders" / ICC come from - at the forefront - and you will be happy.
        If you get it all. And so thickly mixed noodles on crazy gravy for a fetid burp ...
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      2. Pacer Offline Pacer
        Pacer (Pacer) 20 June 2022 19: 39
        0
        who was exchanged for, there is already a lot of new information

        these are all your fakespozhor!
        Kadyrov has already spoken -

        “I declare with all responsibility that the reports that the Ukrainian nationalist Yulia Paevskaya, nicknamed Taira, were allegedly exchanged for the son of my deputy representative in Crimea and Sevastopol Murad Saidov, Adam Gritsenko, do not correspond to reality.

        Adam Gritsenko is a citizen of Ukraine and, according to his father, he is still in captivity in his own country. Swapping Ukrainian citizens for Ukrainian Nazis is not my prerogative, and such issues are not within my competence."
        Murad Saidov himself declares that his son, who does not love Russia, is still in captivity and no one has released him.
  9. Mks7 Offline Mks7
    Mks7 (Maksim) 19 June 2022 18: 51
    +3
    Not a word for the Chechens, only dregs, Chechnya, as a state within a state, apparently has the right to resolve such issues on its own. BDK and Moscow drowned, according to officialdom, due to a fire due to a violation of safety regulations, one must understand that the tugboat apparently simply does not exist, Donetsk is being hammered, killed every day, there are a lot of painful blows and losses about which propaganda is silent. That's why they don't believe Konashenkov's numbers.
  10. Ignatov Oleg Georgievich (Oleg) 19 June 2022 20: 48
    -5
    All this is another lie! For any belligerent, the enemy sniper is already a killer criminal subject to the death penalty. This is not a driver, not a cook or an orderly. So no exchange, at least for whom there can be in principle! I won’t be surprised if the next Stop-Fake program mentions this! Here the question is simple and clear. Someone really needs to bring confusion into the minds of readers about supposedly. I repeat this is nonsense.
    1. Grays Offline Grays
      Grays (Marina) 19 June 2022 22: 52
      +2
      In telegrams on all channels this information
  11. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 19 June 2022 22: 37
    +2
    Yes, the authorities spit on some opinions of commentators.

    !) if she really killed her parents, it means that they did not care about criminal law during the exchange. sacrificed essentially simpletons by their parents for the sake of some bumps.

    2) if she didn’t kill anyone, and it was really possible to exchange (a doctor, albeit a crazy one), then it’s also sucks - it turns out the media and the authorities shamelessly lied, attributing non-existent crimes to real people.
    Again, spitting on the Criminal Code, morality, ethics, and so on.
    Which, by the way, we already see before the elections and in the persecution of all the unnamed Grudinins, etc.
    1. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 20 June 2022 10: 26
      -2
      the authorities shamelessly lied, attributing non-existent crimes to real people

      Quote or ....)))
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  13. Grays Offline Grays
    Grays (Marina) 19 June 2022 22: 51
    +1
    The whole telegram is buzzing.,,.
    Exchanged for the son of a Chechen commander, The name and surname are given. Plus gave 25 million rubles to Khokhols
    Information from telegrams
    1. 1_2 Offline 1_2
      1_2 (Ducks are flying) 20 June 2022 00: 54
      -1
      another disinformation of the SBU
  14. Nikolai A Offline Nikolai A
    Nikolai A (Nikolai A) 20 June 2022 00: 28
    +2
    Why are the names of the "pilots" not named?
    Because it's easy to check.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 20 June 2022 06: 40
      +1
      Yes, at the time of publication of the article a lot of new things became known. About Chechen exchanges, in particular. But this does not change the essence of the issue.
  15. patxilek Offline patxilek
    patxilek (patxilek) 20 June 2022 00: 50
    -2
    Decision making sometimes comes with an unsatisfactory attitude towards fairness, but for our boys it's worth it. Justice will come a little later, but it will come.
  16. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 20 June 2022 00: 53
    +4
    it is unambiguous to pull out our guys by exchange, and so that the people of Donbass do not have a reason for resentment and indignation, it is necessary to immediately end the most high-ranking and publicized by their crimes, Bandera. so that they were not in the exchange fund at all, such as being strangled in a cell or destroyed during resistance
  17. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 20 June 2022 01: 05
    +3
    Please note that there is no official position of the officials of the Russian Federation or the LDNR on this exchange. Topic not covered. So this is rubbish. Like many other things under the flag of EP ...
  18. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
    Roma Phil (Roma) 20 June 2022 02: 33
    +3
    Blogger Yuri Podolyaka, who receives operational information from various sources, is also perplexed about the exchange of Taira for an unknown person, and asks this question without finding answers.
    1. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 20 June 2022 10: 21
      -4
      Quote: Roma Phil
      Blogger Yuriy Podolyaka

      And who is it?
      1. pele23 Offline pele23
        pele23 (Edson Arantis do Nascimento PELE) 20 June 2022 12: 49
        -3
        And this is the most slanderous commentator on military operations. The sent Cossack...
        1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
          Roma Phil (Roma) 20 June 2022 22: 38
          0
          And by whom do you think he was sent? Kremlin or Kyiv? So far, nothing behind him, not a single word was heard in defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Moreover, he helps volunteer organizations collect and distribute funds for the DPR and LPR guards.
          Podolyaka is quite aware of what is happening on the fronts, as he knows and communicates directly with the military involved.
  19. Ivanushka-555 Offline Ivanushka-555
    Ivanushka-555 (Ivan) 20 June 2022 03: 59
    -4
    Opponents of this exchange suggest that I personally surrender to some sadist for a couple of days. I think after, the brightest enlightenment will come!
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 20 June 2022 06: 42
      -2
      Everyone, Ivanushka, will not be exchanged like that. They said that only "valuable", which turned out to be fighters from the Chechen Republic. The rest will sit for now.
      1. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 20 June 2022 10: 22
        -2
        Quote: Marzhetsky
        only "valuable", which turned out to be fighters from the Chechen Republic. The rest will sit for now.

        Epic "throw"))
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  20. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 20 June 2022 05: 52
    +2
    Muddy history. In the media slipped one of the versions of who was changed. And if she is true, everything is very unsightly ..
  21. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 20 June 2022 08: 23
    +1
    What pilots? She was exchanged for some Ukrainian, an underground worker.
    And I don’t understand why it is necessary to change the Azov people, have we got 5,5 thousand prisoners of war somewhere?
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 20 June 2022 10: 33
      0
      Have we got somewhere 5,5 thousand prisoners of war?

      Zelensky does not need these APUs. He will also send a dozen 2 thousand to devour Russia and distract the guards. And Mariupol for some reason is being cleaned from garbage by civilian builders, and not by prisoners of war who destroyed the city.
  22. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 20 June 2022 08: 30
    0
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Yes, at the time of publication of the article a lot of new things became known. About Chechen exchanges, in particular. But this does not change the essence of the issue.

    About the Chechens and 25 million from above, it seems to me that this is a stuffing of tsipsoshniks in order to sow even more confusion
  23. Monax Offline Monax
    Monax (Hermann) 20 June 2022 09: 39
    +2
    Here, mark my word - everything will end like in 2014. And we will have hemorrhoids in the underbelly. We will not have demilitarization and denazification - as we understand it, that is. complete liberation and cleansing.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 20 June 2022 11: 11
      0
      And we will have hemorrhoids in the underbelly

      Why "will" and why in the "underbelly"? The day before yesterday we "mined" several objects. Mines were not found, they found the inscription "Glory to Ukraine". I personally wanted to go to the city market during the day. Closed for the second time in a day. The first time in the morning the police with cynologists arrived quickly, examined everything and opened the market. The second time there were already other challenges and I didn’t get to the market.
  24. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 20 June 2022 10: 06
    +2
    I must agree with the author. Especially in light of the fact that the exchange was from Donetsk. There, for all 8 years, the local authorities looked very suspicious (unlike Luhansk, they put things in order there faster).
    Double bass across the line of contact, cut help from the Russian Federation.
    But PR is through the roof. And the fighters have no money either for salaries, or for equipment, or for copters.
    No one has been shooting at Luhansk for a long time. Even the Dots do not reach. Somehow they managed to throw the dill far enough away.
    These are the local features.
    But now it will be difficult to persuade the fighters to take the Nazis prisoner.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 20 June 2022 10: 33
      +1
      In fact, the "Chechen trace" and the 25 million were leaked some time ago. It's time for Kadyrov to say something on this subject. Say, our brother is still in captivity and these are vile conjectures.
      Otherwise, all of Kadyrov's PR will go down the drain in 3 months.
      I don't want to say anything bad about the Chechen fighters. They fight with dignity, with joy. For them, war is a holiday. But the costs of tribal relations occur among all southern peoples who do not have long-standing traditions of statehood. I personally observed this closely. It doesn't matter if he is right or wrong, but he is his own. With all the consequences...
  25. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 20 June 2022 10: 20
    -1
    So it was or not, we will not know for sure, since the guilt of a person is established only by the court, which will no longer be in relation to Taira. Paevskaya was exchanged without a tribunal over her, and at least one serious crime of the “Azovites” will go unpunished. We must be aware that a simple “paramedic” will not kill innocent people in front of their children, intimidating them in order to leave the “Azov” citadel doomed to fall (banned in the Russian Federation). This means that "Tyra" had something to fear for previous deeds, and how easily she could commit a double murder speaks volumes. The version that she did not heal, but killed people, being a sniper, seems much more realistic.

    The problem is that Steshin's words are the OBS agency ....
    Neither the Investigative Committee, nor the prosecutor's office of the DPR presented anything to "Taira" during his time in captivity ....
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 20 June 2022 14: 14
      0
      The problem is that Steshin's words are the OBS agency ....
      Neither the Investigative Committee, nor the prosecutor's office of the DPR presented anything to "Taira" during his time in captivity ....

      This does not prove her innocence at all.
      1. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 21 June 2022 00: 39
        0
        This does not prove her innocence at all.

        It was elementary to establish her guilt: a direct speech to the camera of two children, allegedly "hostages": they say, she killed their parents ....
        If the OBS were confirmed, the UN Secretary General would have this video in 24 hours, the scandal would be incredible ...
        So what? And nothing - for 1,5 months, even no one got bored ....
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 22 June 2022 12: 23
          0
          This may not indicate her innocence, but that the task of proving her guilt was not set. It was as if I started in the investigation of the prosecutor, I know the kitchen, and some of my classmates rose to the rank of general.
  26. ZnahWest Offline ZnahWest
    ZnahWest (Ingvar b) 20 June 2022 11: 46
    -1
    Outrage knows no bounds. Semi-criminal exchange schemes should be investigated and the organizers should be punished. Or according to the old slogan "the war will write everything off"? An exchange, of course, is possible, but only for the military, and not for incomprehensible and dubious personnel. Decisions on such resonant subjects should be made openly and by respected people. Then there will be no conjectures, in any case, this taira is no dirtier than any of the majority of sushniks. What happened suggests that our guys sometimes lay down their lives in vain. Behind their backs, murky schemes with profit are developing. In the end, this criminal story once again proves that any war under any pathetic slogans has its own dark side.
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 23 June 2022 17: 02
      0
      In other times, something like this Raikin said - containers, bars, about containers. Now about Tyra.
  27. pele23 Offline pele23
    pele23 (Edson Arantis do Nascimento PELE) 20 June 2022 12: 51
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    This country will be destroyed by CORRUPTION ,,,
  28. InanRom Offline InanRom
    InanRom (Ivan) 20 June 2022 13: 08
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    the thief should be in prison, and the Nazi-Bandera should rot in the ground! no options and muddy exchanges.
    in the meantime, someone "exchanges":

    09.40 NM DPR:
    Due to the shelling of the Kievsky district of Donetsk, public transport was temporarily suspended, arrivals in the area of ​​​​school No. 19, information about the victims and destruction is being specified. Under the blow of the punishers was the building of the heating system, and residential apartment buildings along Chelyuskintsev Street also suffered.

    as well as:

    07.15 Governor of the Bryansk region Alexander Bogomaz:
    “Today, early in the morning, the Ukrainian Armed Forces shelled the village of Suzemka. <...> As a result of the shelling, several objects were damaged. In the village, the RES was damaged, and electricity was partially missing. According to preliminary information, there is a victim."

    11.00 Summary information from the Donbass military correspondents on the operational situation on Snake Island:

    A unit of tactical aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues to operate on the island, as well as foreign cannon and rocket artillery stationed in the Odessa region. Target designation, apparently, is again provided by the Bayraktar TB2 UAV. The Ukrainian Air Force maneuvers and constantly changes take-off and landing airfields in the Odessa, Mykolaiv and Dnepropetrovsk regions, trying to avoid a retaliatory strike. There is no smoke or fire on the island itself, but a tower is burning to the east of the Serpentine. Sources from Chornomorneftegaz report that Russian drilling rigs and block conductors at the Odessa field were hit. In Ukraine, the field is considered its exclusive economic zone. It is not clear whether the strike was carried out by tactical aircraft or whether it was a boat group of the Ukrainian Navy. This is the second attack on Russian civilian facilities in the Black Sea in a week. Apparently, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine decided to move from attempts to destroy the military potential of the RF Armed Forces to the maximum terror of civilian objects in the Black Sea region.

    for now, just a few more words:

    11.30 Head of the Federation Council Commission for the Protection of State Sovereignty Andrey Klimov: “If the European Union does not correct the situation with the transport blockade of Kaliningrad, it itself disavows documents on Lithuania’s EU membership for the Russian Federation, in this case Moscow will have a “free hand” to solve the problem by any means we choose ".

    12.30 Briefing by the official press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov, the main thing:
    — the mechanical infrastructure of Nord Stream is suffering due to sanctions, but Russia remains the most reliable gas supplier;
    - Lithuania's decision on the transport blockade of Kaliningrad is unprecedented and illegal;
    - the restriction of transit to Kaliningrad by Lithuania requires a serious analysis, the Russian authorities will carry it out within a few days;
    - the style of negotiating that Ukraine chose did not bring anything good to Kyiv;

    in translation:
    - deliveries to opponents (or "partners and colleagues" who put spokes in our wheels) continue on an increasing basis, with payment for transit to the Kyiv regime,
    -naivety or idiocy, what kind of laws can we talk about in general, in the light of the events of recent months ?! maybe just "write to Sportloto" ?!
    -instead of measures, another "analysis" about nothing in "a few days", although everything is simple and obvious,
    - "stylistics", you see, not of "that system", and not the very fact of unacceptable and muddy negotiations with a "gang of Nazis and drug addicts" (V. Putin),

    12.40 Member of the main council of the CAA of Zaporozhye Vladimir Rogov:

    “We should not be a ‘gray zone’, not be some kind of quasi-republic of the people, or someone else. We need to be Russia - we have no other way. <...> We will either be Russia, or we will not exist at all. Here the dilemma is very simple - it is a struggle for survival. Especially when many thousands of people not only believed in Russia, but believed that it could be implemented quickly enough.”

    someone believed that tayrs and the like would receive a well-deserved capital punishment, and what? .... someone in 2014 also wanted to become part of Russia, and what have we had for the last eight years ?!

    and ..the third month of promises of "strike on decision-making centers" was coming ...
    1. InanRom Offline InanRom
      InanRom (Ivan) 20 June 2022 14: 03
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      Meanwhile:

      12.50 Head of Crimea Sergey Aksyonov:
      This morning, Ukrainian troops attacked the drilling platforms of Chernomorneftegaz, 5 people were rescued, 3 of them were injured, the search for the rest continues.
    2. InanRom Offline InanRom
      InanRom (Ivan) 20 June 2022 15: 54
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      and again "we will threaten the Swede ..":

      15.10 State Duma deputy from Crimea Mikhail Sheremet:
      The attack on the towers of Chernomorneftegaz unleashed the hands of the Russian Federation, in the near future retaliatory strikes will be inflicted on decision-making centers

      apparently, oil and gas towers are more important than "arrivals" in the villages and towns of Russia and the cities of Donbass ?! some kind of double standards and complete disregard for the interests of ordinary Russians in favor of "big business"?!
      I wonder who tied these hands on February 24th and what is it, this is the "nearest time" ?! and again all the same "centers" ...
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  30. Victor Du Offline Victor Du
    Victor Du (Victor) 20 June 2022 18: 26
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    Quote: bobba94
    Emotions aside, in wartime, emotions are very harmful .... Before the exchange, they calculated everything to the smallest detail, without "feelings" and snot. If the exchange took place, then so be it.

    The very approach to exchange is sheer primal cynicism. From which Nazism is half a step away. Therefore, there are people of the highest class who need to be saved at any cost, and there are those about whom no one knows anything. But who is the judge, the weigher, weighing such a concept - "value?" And they, (in the case of an exchange) will be counted not in pieces, but in containers. Or wagons. Sort of like "all for all". Moreover, on the one hand, "all" is hundreds, and on the other, tens of thousands. The main thing in this exchange is to promote well. Let curses and threats fly at me, but I believe that it is impossible to exchange anyone for anyone. To carry out a special operation, and to pull out one's own is a sacred thing. Finally, redeem. The very beginning of this deal will save for some time the life, and, I hope, the health of the prisoner. The exchange implies a merchant's deal. And the stimulating activation of this trade, sweeping into the exchange fund both on the one hand and on the other, innocent, but with some sign of a stranger. So it can come to medieval paintings, when prisoners, chained, stand opposite each other, and the onlookers count one chain or another over their heads. And the dead in one chain will be compensated by execution in another. Not to confuse the documentation.
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 20 June 2022 21: 23
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      I remember the movie, but I don't remember whose production. There, two tons of dollars were brought in a truck to rescue one of their own. At the same time, the container was weighed and the weight exactly corresponded to the invoice. They didn’t even open it to see, or it’s not bricks by any chance. One gang believed the other gang. Otherwise, they would lose face if they cheated. It's a shame on the whole world, on the entire solar system.
  31. lytboris Offline lytboris
    lytboris (Boris Lytkin) 20 June 2022 19: 41
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    The head of Chechnya Ramzan Kazyrov denied the exchange of a former member of the Ukrainian nationalist formation "Azov" Yulia Paevskaya (call sign Taira) for the son of the deputy representative of the head of Chechnya in Crimea Murad Saidov - Adam Gritsenko. The head of the Russian region wrote about this in his Telegram channel.

    “Adam Gritsenko is a citizen of Ukraine and, according to his father, he is still in captivity in his own country. Changing Ukrainian citizens to Ukrainian Nazis is not my prerogative, and such issues are not within my competence, ”he said.
  32. weddu Offline weddu
    weddu (Kolya) 20 June 2022 21: 17
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    If they were exchanged for military pilots, they are also not saints, but very expensive to train, and having combat experience, even more so. What is the problem? We do not fight women and children. Well, they changed Savchenko, she returned, made a rustle there ... They exchanged "tayra", God forbid, she might change her mind, she might give birth to normal children, or whatever happens ..) Our guys are definitely not to blame for anything, they must be returned by any means. And whoever is against, offer yourself in exchange, only who needs it ...
  33. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 20 June 2022 21: 18
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    So it was necessary to exchange the soldiers for those who planned the NWO. With such a layout, they cost nothing to the people. You can, in Ukraine, they say they can be sold like a bunch of radishes tied head to head. As painted on the walls inside the pyramids. When the pharaoh holds the nations, or generals of the enemy, like a bunch of radishes.
  34. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 20 June 2022 21: 32
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    Here, like the Chechens distanced themselves from the exchange.
    https://t.me/sheyhtamir1974/21173
    So we have to wait for clarifications from the NM DPR or the RF Armed Forces.
  35. Moskal 55 Offline Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 20 June 2022 22: 36
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    Figs with her, with this Saira. She is a much more odious figure than Savchenko, and the best way out for her masters would be her heroic death. Those. if such a Mr. is exchanged for something worthwhile, then this is wonderful. And what is most surprising is the indignation in the comments to what they promised. There is a war between young capitalist Russia and America-Europe through Ukraine. At the same time, gas is pumped with might and main through this very Ukraine. And who is still indignant, remember how we pro ... our USSR.
    1. amon Offline amon
      amon (Amon Amon) 24 June 2022 21: 27
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      you are mistaken, we didn’t pro..li, the fish rotted from the head, nothing depends on us either then or now!
  36. amon Offline amon
    amon (Amon Amon) 24 June 2022 21: 24
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    Empty talk! They simply do not need to be taken prisoner, you need to immediately destroy them, then you won’t have to change the animals! To whom are they ashamed and feel guilty for this, before the EU, before NATO, before the USA, and maybe before the international court which is long gone, they are all criminals killing and robbing people all over the world!