“We have achieved what we wanted”: Poroshenko called the goal of signing the Minsk agreements in 2015

Former President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, in a conversation with journalists of the Ukrainian mass media, admitted why Kyiv signed the Minsk agreements in 2015.

According to the ex-president, the main goal of the agreements is the construction of the Ukrainian armed forces and the strengthening of the state in the face of confrontation with Russia.

We achieved what we wanted ... Our task was, firstly, to avert the threat, or at least postpone the war. Knock yourself eight years so we can rebuild economic growth and built the power of the armed forces. This was the first task - and it was achieved

Poroshenko noted.

However, the main points of the Minsk agreements concerned a ceasefire on the line of contact between the Kyiv troops and units of the LDPR, the withdrawal of heavy weapons, the observance of the ceasefire, the holding of local elections, the introduction of an amnesty for the participants in the conflict, and other measures aimed at ensuring peace in eastern Ukraine. The Normandy format was supposed to ensure the implementation of these provisions.

Thus, the then leader of Ukraine actually admitted that Kyiv did not set a goal to achieve an end to the conflict. On the contrary, there was an accumulation of forces for further escalation, which later led to a military aggravation with Moscow.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 17 June 2022 11: 46
    It turns out that Poroshenko outplayed Putin? And now, the former clown President Zelensky is holding on quite firmly, repelling the attacks of the Russian Armed Forces, thereby rebuffing the former KGB representative, President Putin. This is precisely the impression that those who follow the course of hostilities from the outside get. Scholz, Draghi and Macron are calmly driving around Ukraine in a staff car, outlining their plans, just as Hitler used to travel in these places in a staff car, and no one can blow up this car. Lethal weapons circulate freely across the western borders of Ukraine, killing the civilian population of the Russian Union republics. Settlements in Russia are regularly shelled. And from Russia there are calls for negotiations, to which Zelensky says his firm no. So who wins in this conflict? Or can everything again end with the Minsk agreements according to Poroshenko's recipe? Here people are surprised at what is happening. Maybe today at the St. Petersburg forum, President Putin will clarify the minds of civilians about the further conduct of a special operation to demilitarize and denazify all of Ukraine?
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 17 June 2022 12: 04
      Putin, who received power from the hands of Yeltsin, is just a clerk, an international face and a front for the oligarchs who, behind his back, actually run Russia. The sites where the oligarchs get rich were originally controlled by the Hegemon.
      Therefore, all the actions of the authorities, starting with the withdrawal of funds from the economy into the "pod" in the 2000s, and placing it in the States, are their demonstration of loyalty to the Hegemon, and dependence on it.
      The people of Russia are captivated by the expectations of patriotism from the leadership of the country and its leader. These expectations create a "virtual" image of Putin, which absolutely does not coincide with reality. The authorities skillfully play on this, delaying the inevitable denouement. The goal is to ensure, while it is still possible, the continued enrichment of the oligarchs. Within the framework of this game, there is indeed a quasi-competition with the West in the economic and political space, but according to its rules, which it changes when it suits it. Russia has no chance to survive on this path.
      Russia's main problem is the alienation of the people from power. The people are used as work animals. His creative and intellectual potential is not involved in the development of Russia. Involving the people in running the country is the way out of this impasse.
      Read more here:
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 17 June 2022 12: 47
        Russia's main problem is the alienation of the people from power.

        More precisely, it sounds like this:
        If Russia's main problem is the power of the oligarchs dependent on the West, then the key one is the people's detachment from power.
      2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) 17 June 2022 13: 10
        Putin, who took power from the hands of Yeltsin

        And from whose hands did Yeltsin get power?
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 17 June 2022 13: 34
          Yeltsin received power from the hands of the CIA, which used the decomposition of the top of the CPSU in the interests of the States and organized (under Yeltsin) a palace coup in Moscow under the slogan of "struggle against party privileges."
          The reason for the decomposition of the top of the CPSU is its loss of self-control.
          This phenomenon was studied in greater detail by the Chinese comrades, who watched with horror the degeneration of our Party.
          This is a bug on the road. She does not refute its correctness. You just need to learn the lesson and move on. Together with China, Belarus and other countries. Relying, if necessary, on the advice and help of comrades along the way
          1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
            Bulanov (Vladimir) 17 June 2022 16: 46
            Yeltsin took power from the hands of the CIA,

            And what, then, are the Yeltsin centers?
            1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 17 June 2022 17: 40
              The building itself and the museum, if there is one, is a monument of the era.
              I am not familiar with the organization and its activities.
              1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 18 June 2022 14: 58
                Let me explain anyway.
                Monument - from the word "memory" - a memorial sign.
                We understand that if it is a monument, then it must be something good.
                However, it is all the more important to erect (or leave not demolished) monuments to our mistakes, so that they, like our imperfections, will never be forgotten.
      3. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 17 June 2022 13: 21
        Quote: Alexey Davydov
        Read more here

        And more details here

      4. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 17 June 2022 21: 58
        I see cons. I don't like it either, to put it mildly.
        I do not see the arguments.
        There is none of them?
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    2. Sotnalex Offline Sotnalex
      Sotnalex 17 June 2022 17: 00
      Putting a good face on a bad game does not mean fighting back. And it certainly doesn't mean winning. As you know, they count in the fall. No one is going to negotiate with this regime, there is a clear statement about this by the Russian Foreign Ministry.
      No one was going to strike at EU leaders. What for ? Do we want Europe to be directly involved in the war? This is the third world .... This is not what we are trying to achieve. Moreover, these trips of EU leaders do not threaten us with anything.
      We do not control the western borders of Ukraine, so it is not in our power to interfere with the supply of weapons. But this does not mean at all that our VKS do not destroy them. Some percentage still reaches the front.
      Why panic ahead of time, there is a 4 month military operation, let's at least wait until the fall. I think by October the situation will be clearer.
    3. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
      Siegfried (Gennady) 18 June 2022 18: 00
      Poroshenko created the conditions for the return of Russia's historical territories. The EU is already phasing out military aid. The United States is on the way, Biden is not doing very well. Johnson will arm the Armed Forces? By August, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will no longer have heavy weapons, and even that part of the combat-ready forces that are now behind the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk line will be destroyed by that time. Two lines will converge - the calls of the West for negotiations (coercion of Zelensky) and the collapse of the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In the end, by September, everything will be over. How exactly is not yet clear, but clearly not in favor of Kyiv.
  2. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 17 June 2022 12: 13
    And who doubted that it would be so, well, except perhaps the Kremlin hockey player, by the way, the Kremlin still cherishes the hope of signing another agreement, judging by the statements of Medinsky (75% agreed)
  3. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 17 June 2022 13: 19

    Peskov about the idea of ​​liberating all Russian cities in Ukraine: the purpose of the special operation is to save the Donbass from barbaric acts by the Kyiv military

    Will the Kremlin ever decide?
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 17 June 2022 15: 01
      The mustachioed bears the blizzard again.
  4. Antey Offline Antey
    Antey (Andrey Telichko) 17 June 2022 14: 15
    For so many years the patriots have been talking about this! Poroshenko literally quoted Strelkov with his statement. It's a pity, but with such a stupid leader and a comprador oligarchic clique behind his back, we will soon know all the horrors of the death of a once great country. The West does not need Russia in any form. Even in the form of the former "world gas station". Only the dismemberment and destruction of the imperial nation - the Russians. Now no agreements will save Putin.
  5. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 17 June 2022 14: 28
    avert the threat, or at least delay the war

    Like, they knew that Russia would invade sooner or later...
    Not fools, they understand that imperialism is in the yard ....
    1. berezinp Offline berezinp
      berezinp (Pavel Berezin) 17 June 2022 16: 36
      No, they knew and said that they would return the Crimea and were preparing to return it, they were not preparing for a Russian attack, but for their own attack ...
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 17 June 2022 22: 28
        Clear stump. What else was left for them?
        But to attack the Crimea, when they had just developed at least some kind of their own cruise missile, and bought 3 boats .......

        This is an explanation for the full "endured". Just like the Batki - that they attacked him ....
  6. akm8226 Offline akm8226
    akm8226 17 June 2022 22: 24
    Well, Ukrainians are not so lucky - no matter what president you take, either 3,14dor, or sick in the head, or just a Banderite.
  7. zzdimk Offline zzdimk
    zzdimk 18 June 2022 12: 06
    In fact, the phrase "achieved everything" means that nothing has been done.
  8. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 18 June 2022 15: 05
    I think that the Kremlin understood that nothing would come of Minsk and also accumulated forces, weapons, tactical, strategic, field artillery, finances, etc.
    everything went to war and it’s good for us that it’s not with NATO and they hit first when the time came (or they pinned us against the wall refusing our demands)
    crests were preparing, we were preparing, NATO (USA) assumed a war, but they themselves have problems above their heads, only they took their legs from Afghanistan, not everything is going smoothly with China
    those who are supposed to, everything, were preparing, but no one knew how and what kind of war would be, and we only see the contours of this clash, Nata and Russia, we don’t even want to predict what will happen in six months, having defeated a herd of zombified livestock, they will run to escape ( with weapons) to the nearest western countries and already there, having reformatted, they will try to hit our army
  9. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 18 June 2022 21: 05
    And what will Russian pigeons Peskov, Medinsky, Lavrov say about this?
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 18 June 2022 21: 10
      Express concern, as always.
    FGJCNJK (Nikolai) 19 June 2022 07: 53
    Quote: Bulanov
    Here people are surprised at what is happening.

    We are looking forward to when surprise is replaced by indignation, and there it is not far from hatred!