Kedmi: The operation to grind the Donbass front is coming to an end


The essence of the orders of the Russian command in the course of the special operation on Ukrainian territory has changed dramatically. Russia was simply left with no other choice by the authorities of Ukraine and its Western partners. Now the orders of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation sound concrete - to destroy the Armed Forces of Ukraine, if the Ukrainian military do not surrender and offer armed resistance. Yakov Kedmi, a political scientist and ex-head of the Israeli secret service Nativ, spoke about this on the air of the author's program of Russian journalist Vladimir Solovyov.


According to the expert, the campaign of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and its allies from the LPR and DPR to grind the Donbass front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is coming to an end. The Russian military first “handles” the positions of the Ukrainian forces with artillery and only after that they go on the offensive, and this gives results.

At the same time, the complete defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will come when the remnants of the Ukrainian group in the Donbass will be forced to start a retreat, they must be finished off on the march. The main thing is that the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot be allowed to withdraw in an organized manner to replenish personnel and weapons, otherwise they will begin to resist in new positions.

He has no doubt that soon Kyiv will lose control over the entire Donbass and Moscow will begin the next stage of the NWO. Moreover, this stage will consist of simultaneous strikes in several important areas.

The first thing to take is Ochakov. The outlet of the Dnieper to the Black Sea must be busy. In practice, this will be carried out in parallel, without waiting for the completion of the operation in Left-Bank Ukraine. The next question is purely tactical. The West left Russia no choice but to take the entire Black Sea coast. It is of strategic importance for everything. After that, it is necessary to take not Kharkov, which in fact has no military significance, but the Volyn and Zhytomyr regions. If this area is occupied, there will be no supply either in Kharkov, or in Kyiv, or in Dnepropetrovsk, anywhere. It will be just a strategic encirclement and the end. All. Finita la comedy. That is, if the supply routes through the Volyn region are cut off, the cessation of resistance by the remnants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will become a matter of days

Kedmi explained.
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  1. FGJCNJK Offline FGJCNJK
    FGJCNJK (Nikolai) 16 June 2022 15: 01
    -5
    Yasha is right, but who will listen to him? Are "negotiations" already starting, muddying the waters?
    And how will the warring Chechens look at this, because they are used to drinking clean water from mountain streams, they don’t need “mutnyak”? And what are they laying down their lives for, who will be responsible for this?
    And what will Ramzan Akhmatovich say to all this happening?
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 17 June 2022 13: 42
      -2
      Quote: FGJCNJK
      Yasha is right

      Yasha is just hysterical, like Shevardnadze.
  2. Mks7 Offline Mks7
    Mks7 (Maksim) 16 June 2022 16: 00
    -4
    Much will become clearer by autumn. Well, now, without any cleverness, it cannot be denied that the Russian army does not have strategic success in the fourth month. The brutal shelling of Donetsk, which damages the reputation of the Kremlin, also speaks volumes. The front is extended, the forces are clearly not enough. Sooner or later Lisichansk Kramatosk Slavyansk will fall. Propaganda will pass it off as an outstanding victory. But this tactical victory does not decide anything in the course of the campaign. Now everything depends on the supply of Western weapons, and their number will be decisive.
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 16 June 2022 16: 09
      0
      Now everything depends on the supply of Western weapons, and their number will be decisive.

      The number of deliveries of Western weapons will depend on the effectiveness of the work of the Russian Aerospace Forces in dismantling railways and roads in Western Ukraine. Maybe something is missing VKS?
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 June 2022 09: 35
        +1
        Maybe something is missing VKS?

        The political decision is really to bomb the piece of iron on the memory.
    2. Vamp Offline Vamp
      Vamp (wamp) 16 June 2022 18: 06
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      Quote: Mks7
      Sooner or later Lisichansk Kramatosk Slavyansk will fall. Propaganda will pass it off as an outstanding victory. But this tactical victory does not decide anything in the course of the campaign.

      It so happened that it was generally unprofitable for Russia to attack - more precisely, it is more profitable to remain in their positions and repel attacks in which the attacker suffers increased losses. This is how the entire Ukrainian army is being ground. If enemy attacks stop - it is necessary to stimulate periodically.
      Thanks to cruise missiles, the rear enterprises, warehouses and logistics centers of the enemy are processed. Those. the defeat of ukrov occurs with minimal gestures.
      With such a long impact, the process of understanding begins, where is who, what is the breshet. Already Ukrainian TV presenters, although they "express confidence", but with such sad eyes. And the perception of reality that dies daily at first 100, then 200 and now 1000 military dill. Ukrainians learn that the wounded are not picked up, the dead are not taken away - they hate each other and there is a war going on without honor and mercy.
      1. Dima Offline Dima
        Dima (Dmitriy) 17 June 2022 15: 11
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        That's what it's about. As ridiculous as it may seem, Russia does not need a quick offensive, because then it will have to stretch the front line, feed and equip the local population.
    3. Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 16 June 2022 18: 07
      0
      simply ingenious. it turns out to arm the baboons with more or less modern weapons and that's it, run up and hide
      why tactical. strategic calculations, the spirit and truth for which the soldiers are fighting
      you pots are doomed with such intelligence and logic as you pissed off Soviet weapons. Factories, steamships and the entire USSR and Western help, sell something to the igil, just throw something in the trenches running away from Russian weapons
      nothing will save you, just a little slow down the end and collapse
    4. lytboris Offline lytboris
      lytboris (Boris Lytkin) 16 June 2022 18: 46
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      Everything goes according to plan. And we do not know what plans Putin has. It is the United States that can bomb a foreign people indiscriminately. And we have to live with them. And time works for Russia.
      Ukraine's growing demands for arms supplies irritate the US.
      That's what it means to take your time. Even these are annoying. And what will happen next.
    5. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 June 2022 09: 32
      +2
      Sooner or later Lisichansk Kramatosk Slavyansk will fall. Propaganda will pass it off as an outstanding victory. But this tactical victory does not decide anything in the course of the campaign.

      This will solve the problem with the water supply of the DPR, actually.
    6. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 17 June 2022 13: 45
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      Quote: Mks7
      the Russian army does not have strategic success in the fourth month

      Well, since we are talking about the fourth month, then first we will wait for the fifth (on which everything becomes visible to the naked eye), and then we will wait for the ninth month.
  3. Neville Stator Offline Neville Stator
    Neville Stator (Neville Stator) 16 June 2022 21: 19
    +1
    If the fifth column does not interfere with it by negotiations or by some of their usual tricks, the victory of the Russian army will be complete.
  4. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 17 June 2022 02: 29
    +1
    now in the West there is an understanding of two things - the economic collapse of Russia, the dissatisfaction of the Russians with what is happening, not only does not shine, but even vice versa. That hatred, that pressure on Russia, that how cynically the West is showing itself in Ukraine, consolidates Russian society and alienates it from the Western world. It is not the state that pushes him away, but the West itself pushes him away. Not all points have been clarified in the economy yet, but the fact is that the sanctions will remain regardless of the decisions of the Russian Federation on the NWO.

    The second understanding is the impossibility for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to achieve a military stalemate at the front, a situation where none of the parties can achieve victory. The Armed Forces of Ukraine buy time for a very high price in people and weapons, which means for the West that the supply of weapons can only win time, but get an even worse result in the end.

    Russia, having limited its losses to the most cautious and slow advance with high enemy fire damage, is playing a long game. While inflation is growing in the West, various crises are growing, discontent is growing, hostility towards Ukraine is growing (there will soon be hatred), while time is passing and winter is approaching (which is a very serious challenge for both Ukraine and the EU), then Russia has no incentives strive to end the conflict.

    Opportunities for the West to continue funding Kyiv, supplying arms and waging a sanctions war against Russia have already reached their limit. It is also obvious that the Kyiv regime can no longer make concessions and even just start negotiations. How then can the West end the conflict? They are now reducing military aid, but not stopping. Granting candidate status to Ukraine here will only harm the EU, because will give the Kyiv regime fuel for propaganda. Just go with the flow in the hope of winding through? Russia has not yet even responded to the sanctions, but now, when the confidence in its positions is strong, it may very well begin to hurt the economies of the West.

    A possible solution could be for the West a big corruption scandal related to the theft of Western money in Ukraine. Not something general and abstract, but very concrete and gigantic, like a billion stolen. This will immediately give rise to funding restrictions and open the way to criticism of the Kyiv regime - we give them money, and they steal it. The money of Europeans who suffer so much for the sake of Ukraine. Corruption in Ukraine could be the key to merging the Kyiv regime with the West.
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 17 June 2022 06: 20
      0
      I also want the West to merge Ukraine, but I don’t see any hope for this, all our hope is in God and the Russian army ... the fall of Europe is a cunning plan of globalists and without a Ukrainian crisis, for the sake of the EU they will not merge Ukraine, their interests are in the Middle East and the Europeans will be driven there by the drovers ... I agree with Kedmi, it is necessary to transfer forces to punch a corridor in Transnistria and de-occupy Odessa and Gagauzia, and Nikolaev Kharkov and other cities can be bypassed, the next blow to Lviv, through Lutsk or through Vinnitsa, the Carpathians can become an obstacle, they need to be overcome in winter, there is a deciduous forest ... my opinion is that Slavyansk Kramatorsk can not be taken, they themselves will surrender when we cut off Lviv
      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
        k7k8 (vic) 17 June 2022 13: 56
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        Quote: vladimir1155
        it is necessary to transfer forces to punching a corridor in Transnistria and the de-occupation of Odessa and Gagauzia ...

        Someone disagrees with you
        https://news.mail.ru/politics/51804715
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 17 June 2022 15: 11
          +1
          Well, if you take only the first sentence from the article, then there is no disagreement. If an enemy army stands on the borders of Donbass, then there is no question of security.
    2. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 17 June 2022 13: 53
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      Quote: Siegfried
      A possible solution could be a big corruption scandal for the West

      Will not help. If information about Western weapons delivered to Kyiv and suddenly popping up on the black market on different continents does not help (yes, so far these are only light small arms and anti-tank weapons, but it’s not a problem to put something heavier into a container, there would be a customer with a loot), then on chopped Europe paper is deep purple. Papandopulo's principle "Take everything - I'll draw myself more" has not been canceled.
  5. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 17 June 2022 09: 03
    +4
    1. Grinding for 4 months and the end of the grinding is not visible in the light of the mobilization of conscripts, foreign inter-bigade and the supply of more and more advanced weapons.
    2. The complete defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will come only when the NWO ends on the western border of Ukraine, with any other outcome, the question of who was defeated will arise.
    3. Initially, Ukraine did not completely control the Donbass, and after the recognition of the DPR-LPR and the start of the SVO, it will lose it completely and completely.
    4. The first thing to do was to cut off the supply of Western weapons to Ukraine, and not then look for them throughout Ukraine in order to strike with precision weapons. Otherwise, it is like scooping up water with a sieve.
    5. The entire Black Sea coast will be taken, but the strategic tasks - the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine, can only be solved by preventing admission to the EU or granting candidate status (the EU is 100% NATO members) and entering the western borders of Ukraine.

    Any agreements will be temporary and half-hearted, and therefore will only delay the final decision.
  6. Yuri Neupokoev Offline Yuri Neupokoev
    Yuri Neupokoev (Yuri Neupokoev) 17 June 2022 12: 27
    0
    Many "high-ranking politicians" in power have not yet lost hope for a "negotiable". That's why they don't hit railways, electric substations, bridges, "decision-making places", etc. We are not like them, but we protect their population. Lavrov only speaks words, and the deeds of "affective managers to optimize everything" are like a rod from all the cracks. They want to be "white and fluffy" and "look good in the eyes of Western partners." And how many more civilians in the Donbass and our soldiers must perish before there is an adjustment to the NWO process? The forces and the necessary equipment in the NWO are clearly not enough. Volunteers (not the state apparatus!!! - they have help from the CVO even for outdoor advertising "is not registered in the budget" !!!) all over the Russian Federation collect funds for quadrocopters, special equipment, medical kits, etc. with their own money. for our soldiers and volunteers. What is this...? Isn't this the duty of the Defense Ministry and other structures? There is a mess in any army, but in order to start a NMD without an acceptable organization for supplying the necessary ... Already in three months of hostilities it was possible to understand the military commanders, which is extremely necessary for the soldiers. Some questions...
    There is an immediate escalation. This is what the Britons and the Americans want. Yes, after our massive strikes, not only on the military infrastructure, a catastrophe will grow on the outskirts, but there is simply no other option. We will still be forced to do this when shells fly far into our territory. How forced to start SVO.
    Any agreement with the West is only a postponement of an even greater war. And it seems that everyone has studied history, but again we want to step on the same rake with the tenacity of a worthy better use. The "goods of Western civilization" have eclipsed the minds of many in power. Until we become self-sufficient as a civilization (and we have everything for this, except for the political will and the necessary personnel), we will continue to fawn over the West.
  7. Aa Bb Offline Aa Bb
    Aa Bb (Aa Bb) 17 June 2022 13: 33
    +1
    Our geniuses in the General Staff have a different opinion
  8. Our mustache Offline Our mustache
    Our mustache (Vasiliy) 17 June 2022 19: 05
    0
    Nothing comes to an end! Agent defector is rubbing something! Bablo eyes eclipsed! Go to the Promised Land and rub it there