How to put an end to the barbaric shelling of Donetsk by the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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And again, we are forced to return to the topic of the ill-fated Avdiivka, occupied by the Ukrainian Nazis. From this suburb of Donetsk, turned into an impregnable fortified area in 8 years, terrorist artillerymen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been continuously shelling the capital of the DPR all these years. However, the level of terror that the criminal Kyiv regime has staged today against civilians in Donetsk requires extraordinary measures.

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About how this “abscess” appeared on the body of Donbass, we have already detailed told previously. Despite the fact that in 2014-2015 the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the so-called volunteer battalions suffered a series of crushing defeats and were generally incompetent, for some reason they were not expelled from the territory of the DPR and LPR within the administrative boundaries. On the contrary, the line of contact was fixed in such a way that the suburbs of Donetsk - Avdiivka, Maryinka and Peski - were under Ukrainian occupation. The Donbass militia, which was then eager to fight, had their hands tied by the Minsk agreements, and the most motivated field commanders who wanted to go to Kyiv died one by one at the hands of some DRGs. First, the LPR lost its charismatic military leaders, then the same fate befell the DPR. When the "atamanism" ended, the remnants of the militia were shot down into the People's Militia of the LDNR, which had a beneficial effect on overall manageability and centralized supply. However, the overall level of preparedness and motivation of the "policemen" has fallen noticeably, which for many years rightly pointed out familiar with the situation from the inside.



On the other hand, they were opposed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard of Ukraine, who were trained by NATO and Israeli military instructors for 8 years, prepared for the assault and conduct of urban battles, about which we detail told previously. The settlements controlled by Kyiv on the territory of the DPR and LPR were turned into the most powerful fortified areas, but Avdiivka, Maryinka and Peski are considered the most powerful of them, which are an ideal springboard for unpunished terrorist shelling of Donetsk, as well as for a swift offensive on the capital of the People's Republic. All previous attempts to recapture Avdiivka were shattered by a layered system of reinforced concrete fortifications.

It is unrealistic to take Avdeevka head-on with the forces of the poorly armed NM of the DPR, alas, this is a fact. There is no way to get around it by cutting off supply lines and taking it into the "cauldron" from the poorly trained "police", into which it was necessary to massively drive the mobilized and poorly motivated yesterday's inhabitants with little or no military training. And the criminal regime in Kyiv, unfortunately, uses it to its fullest. According to the head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, the city is being hit not only by large-caliber 155 mm artillery, transferred under Lend-Lease by NATO countries, but also by long-range MLRS "Smerch" and "Hurricane", which work on the areas:

The enemy has literally crossed all boundaries: prohibited methods of warfare are being used, residential and central regions of Donetsk are being shelled, and other cities and towns of the DPR are now under fire.

If earlier only the suburbs of Donetsk suffered from the barbaric shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, now there is not a single safe area left in the capital of the People's Republic. They get everywhere. But why do the Armed Forces of Ukraine so obviously and openly commit war crimes against civilians, for which they will then have to answer?

There are different opinions on this matter. The simplest explanation is that ordinary ideological Nazis are shooting, who do not consider ethnic Russians and Ukrainians, who voted in 2014 not to be part of the Independent, to be people at all. Indeed, they think so. It is enough to look at the Ukrainian publics, where the mass of the relevant public with great pleasure mocks the sufferings of the “separators”. But there is another explanation that does not exclude the first. It is suggested that by terrorizing Donetsk, Zelensky's criminal regime is trying to force Russia to withdraw a significant part of the troops from the main directions in the Donbass and transfer them to Avdiivka, where the Russian Armed Forces will suffer heavy losses, trying to take the most powerful fortified area as soon as possible in the forehead. It seems very likely that this is the case.

And it worked. The head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, said that he had asked for military assistance from "allied forces" and "an understanding was reached":

All the necessary additional forces of the allied forces, primarily the Russian Federation, will be involved.

We do not know exactly how this additional assistance will be provided, but we would like to hope that the rational tactics of "methodical warfare", which brings excellent results to the RF Armed Forces with a minimum of losses, will not be abandoned at the General Staff. In connection with the current extremely difficult situation, I would like to express a few thoughts on how to reverse the negative trend without grinding the Russian army in hopeless frontal attacks on the layered defense system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Avdiivka.

At firsthow we fair pointed out Earlier, within the framework of allied assistance, Russia should transfer to the NM LDNR the heaviest of the Malka self-propelled guns and Tyulpan mortars that we have in service, specially designed to destroy reinforced concrete bunkers. This is a very weighty argument, with the help of which you can already now begin to consistently gnaw through those kilometers of concrete fortifications in Avdeevka, Marinka and Pesky. Also, the activity of Ukrainian terrorist artillerymen can be curbed by regular work on their positions by Russian aviation, which from high altitudes can drop special concrete-piercing bombs and hit with missiles without entering the zone of possible enemy air defense at all.

Secondly, it would not hurt to equip our own layered air defense / missile defense system over Donetsk, and for a long time.

Thirdly, it is necessary to stop bullshitting with terrorists and start answering them in the spirit of "an eye for an eye." For every shelling of Donetsk and the cities of the Russian borderlands, it is necessary to hit military-administrative targets in Kyiv, Lvov and other cities controlled by the criminal Nazi regime. The fact is that the Ukrainian jingoistic public, after the withdrawal of the RF Armed Forces from the capital, has already calmed down, considering this a crushing military defeat for Russia, the hostilities have moved somewhere far away, to the South-East, and everyone expects from there only victory "over the orcs ". It must be regularly reminded that this is an extremely harmful and dangerous illusion.

Finally, it would be time to completely disable the railway network in Western Ukraine, through which the Armed Forces of Ukraine receive weapons and ammunition. American howitzers of 155 mm caliber, delivered under Lend-Lease, are now hitting Donetsk. Consequently, the fight against military supplies from the NATO bloc is a sham. Without supplies of ammunition, there will simply be nothing to shoot with. This means that we must stop imitating the fight against Lend-Lease and take real measures to stop it.
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  1. -5
    15 June 2022 11: 35
    There is no point in arguing with the first point of the measures proposed by the author. It is clear that this is how it should be done. But the third point raises questions. By striking at Kyiv and other CPRs, Russia will give the go-ahead to the use of long-range weapons transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, legal from the point of view of the West, on the territory of Russia
    1. +5
      15 June 2022 11: 55
      Quote: Colonel Kudasov
      By striking at Kyiv and other CPRs, Russia will give the go-ahead to the use of long-range weapons transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, legal from the point of view of the West, on the territory of Russia

      So the Russian Armed Forces have already carried out missile strikes on Kyiv. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been attacking Russia for a long time.
      1. -2
        15 June 2022 12: 55
        If the West officially recognizes Kyiv's right to attack Russian territory (this is not yet the case), then it will not be border shelling of villages, but an attack on Russian cities up to Moscow. HIMERS radius up to 500 km.
        1. +7
          15 June 2022 13: 14
          I have a counter question. How do citizens of the Russian Federation from the Moscow region differ from citizens living in the regions bordering Ua? The latter are some kind of second grade, which can not be protected or what?
          If the Kremlin divides its population into classes like this, then let the Armed Forces of Ukraine shoot at least at the Kremlin.
          1. +4
            15 June 2022 17: 07
            Let's, Sergey, raise the viewpoint of events higher - so that the field of view goes beyond the borders of Russia and Ukraine. What will we see then?
            And we will see the United States orchestrating ALL THIS against us, resting quietly and grinning in the cold. They calculate the superprofits of their military-industrial complex. What more could they want? Nothing threatens them (we - anyway).
            They recently pocketed the foreign exchange reserves set up for them by our leadership, received from him another half a billion dollars in payments on the state debt, we scrupulously fulfill all contracts and deliveries.
            From this point of view, we suddenly notice the borders of the territory clearly delineated for us by the States, on which we and Ukraine “frolic” killing each other. We carefully observe these boundaries. Here in the States, too, everything is in order.
            Let us ask ourselves then - why did we focus all our attention only on what is happening here. Is it in our interest? Or in the interests of the director of a bloody performance? Why did we stop thinking about how to stop HIM himself?
            Does the fact that the Hegemon does not yet introduce new trump cards into the game mean that he does not have them? Can we hope to end this campaign with Victory? Or is everything developing according to his plan, and he does not need to introduce new pieces into the game yet?
            Do you seriously think that the Hegemon will allow us to finish everything in Ukraine and put an end to the future profits of its military-industrial complex, its plans for Russia?
            And if all this is true, perhaps we should not be children, and limit ourselves to what the “good” Uncle Sam put into our hands.
            His “partners” - the oligarchs who actually own Russia, are probably going to continue their game with the Hegemon according to its rules, but we, whose fate is inextricably linked with the fate of the country, should think about where this game of theirs will lead Russia and us along with it
            1. +1
              16 June 2022 11: 42
              It is not clear why, as the first "response", the supply of the patriotic forces of Iraq and Syria is not organized with reconnaissance tablets with satellite information (from satellites and aircraft of the Russian Federation) in real time and, accordingly, with means of destruction sufficient to eliminate significant forces and means of the US occupation units in these countries?
              1. +3
                16 June 2022 13: 26
                Lord, what tablets and means of elimination are you talking about ?! Own troops without UAVs! Donbass militias with three-rulers !!! Enough of this fairy tale about "analogue" to quote.
          2. +1
            16 June 2022 13: 23
            Well, then it turns out that the inhabitants of Donbass are generally some kind of sorting. Threshing for them all eight years.
            1. -1
              17 June 2022 00: 00
              This is their own choice in imitation of the Crimea in 2014 or Chechnya, or Kosovo, but a little earlier.
      2. -1
        19 June 2022 15: 49
        No shelling can be stopped under the treaty. Exactly the same agreement as Russia has with Israel. We shoot at you so as not to hit the president, you shoot at us in the same way. You kill our soldiers, and we kill yours. If yours fall into our captivity, then there will be an exchange according to the agreement. That is, how much to pay for each in gold or diamonds. already faceted and with documentation. When gentlemen fight, the people's forelocks crackle.
    2. 0
      16 June 2022 06: 48
      Are you sure of this?
  2. -2
    15 June 2022 12: 03
    from the poorly trained "police", which had to massively drive away mobilized

    You would choose your expressions carefully.

    There are different opinions on this matter.

    And you do not allow the possibility of a third opinion, the essence of which is that the Armed Forces of Ukraine feel impunity now and in the future? And also the fourth opinion, that they can be driven by ordinary impotent malice on the principle of "so don't get you to anyone"?

    How we rightly pointed out earlier

    We, Nicholas II, or what? The article is author's, not editorial, but the author does not hesitate to call himself WE. Or, after all, Mr. Marzhetsky does not exist in nature, and under this name is hidden a group of certain authors (such as Kukryniksy)?

    Finally, it would be time to finally disable the railway network in Western Ukraine, through which the Armed Forces of Ukraine receive weapons and ammunition

    And this is definitely correct. And there is only one question - why hasn't this been done yet? As it is undoubtedly necessary to cut off Ukraine from the Black Sea.
    1. +1
      15 June 2022 12: 26
      You would choose your expressions carefully.

      I will manage in my work without unsolicited advice from amateurs. hi
      The way the mobilization was carried out in the DPR is called exactly as I called it.

      And you do not allow the possibility of a third opinion, the essence of which is that the Armed Forces of Ukraine feel impunity now and in the future?

      I allow a lot.

      And also the fourth opinion, that they can be driven by ordinary impotent malice on the principle of "so don't get you to anyone"?

      Yeah. It is number 1 in the text of the article.
      The simplest explanation is that ordinary ideological Nazis are shooting, who do not consider ethnic Russians and Ukrainians, who voted in 2014 not to be part of the Independent, to be people at all. Indeed, they think so.

      We, Nicholas II, or what? The article is author's, not editorial, but the author does not hesitate to call himself WE.

      Do you consider yourself an informed person in the "kitchen" of media work? smile
      To be honest, your ridiculous attempts to offend me cause only a smile. smile

      Or, after all, Mr. Marzhetsky does not exist in nature, and under this name is hidden a group of certain authors (such as Kukryniksy)?

      Curious theory. Try to conduct your own investigation and then share the results.

      And this is definitely correct. And there is only one question - why hasn't this been done yet? As it is undoubtedly necessary to cut off Ukraine from the Black Sea.

      Probably because allied Belarus is still embarrassed to enter the war with Ukrainian Nazism shoulder to shoulder with Russia, and its citizens "help" by scribbling comments in the Russian media.
      1. 0
        15 June 2022 18: 29
        Quote: Marzhetsky
        Try to conduct your own investigation and then share the results

        Already spent
        https://novostivl.ru/post/243211/
        There are some pretty interesting passages.
        1. 0
          15 June 2022 19: 40
          Well, so what are the results?
          By the way, was I right in my analysis and forecast of the collision with the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
          1. 0
            15 June 2022 20: 27
            Firstly, it is necessary to stop conducting diplomatic relations with Ukraine and recognize the LDNR as “successors of that “domaidan” Ukraine”

            Diplomatic relations were not severed. LDNR is recognized only by Russia, but as sovereign states, and not as successors to Ukraine. Do you, as a former lawyer, not understand that this is somewhat different?

            Secondly, for Russia, a full-scale war in the republics of Donbass does not make sense.

            And now what is happening? Will we bashfully hide behind the abbreviation SVO again?

            Thus, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be confused in several directions at once

            As you can see, we didn't get lost. But Bucha, as a response to the "gesture of good will", Russia received. And the shelling of Donetsk, which has become much tougher, too (Pushilin even turned to Moscow with a request to strengthen the military grouping and air defense / missile defense of the city). And there is no end in sight to this war.

            Thirdly, mass protests against the background of a sharp increase in the cost of tariffs can disable the defense of Ukraine

            Can you share a link to the protests?
            In a word, changing shoes in a jump is counted.
            I never trusted people with several diverse higher educations. By the way, Lenin, who pieced the empire together after the rule of the Democrats, had one higher education - a law degree, like one of yours - education.
            1. 0
              16 June 2022 07: 22
              What nonsense, consisting of continuous distortions, you write. Well, you seem to be an adult, so don't behave like an offended child.

              Diplomatic relations were not severed. LDNR is recognized only by Russia, but as sovereign states, and not as successors to Ukraine. Do you, as a former lawyer, not understand that this is somewhat different?

              I am not a former lawyer, but a current one. Like a journalist and a political scientist.
              The fact that the Kremlin does everything through one place, claims to him, not to me. I painted a very specific program of action. Not useful. But we have SVO.

              Thus, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be confused in several directions at once
              As you can see, don't get lost.

              Bewildered is used in the sense not to "bewildered", but to disperse in several directions, which happened. The fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be confused in the literal sense of the word, I wrote for many years, which happened in the end.

              Thirdly, mass protests against the background of a sharp increase in the cost of tariffs can disable the defense of Ukraine

              Can you share a link to the protests?

              What link? Are you unable to understand what you read? I wrote that Russia SHOULD have organized protests through the special services, but it did not.

              In a word, changing shoes in a jump is counted.

              What are you even carrying? What kind of dressing? Everything happened exactly as I had warned for years.

              I never trusted people with several diverse higher educations. By the way, Lenin, who pieced the empire together after the rule of the Democrats, had one higher education - a law degree, like one of yours - education.

              It's your problems. Judging by the commentary, the adequacy of perception is not your strongest trait. hi
      2. +1
        16 June 2022 05: 31
        Probably because allied Belarus is still embarrassed to enter the war with Ukrainian Nazism shoulder to shoulder with Russia, and its citizens "help" by scribbling comments in the Russian media.

        - My plus to you.
        - Personally, I have already several times and in some detail laid out in my comments my opinion (how many minuses in my address !!!) about Lukashenka's "waiting attitude" in relation to the holding of the UZO of the RF Armed Forces on the territory of Ukraine !!!
        - Right now, the direct participation of the Belarusian Armed Forces in the VZO (at least by the forces of volunteer battalions); Yes, at least - the connection of the Belarusian Air Force to participate in the ADF (from the airfields of Belarus) and the launching of missile strikes from the territory of Belarus on communications and delivery routes of weapons and military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - could make a very significant contribution to the holding of the ADF!
        - But Lukashenka continues to pretend that this does not concern him!
        - And the initial assistance to Russia from Belarus (at the very beginning of the WZO) - no longer matters!
        - Lukashenko continues to "earn points" from the West!
        1. 0
          16 June 2022 07: 44
          The problem is that the West already considers Belarus responsible for the NWO and intends to bring it to justice on a par with Russia. The Belarusians are no less interested than ours in the liquidation of the UkroReich, but they sit, scribble comments, wait for the Russians to do all the work for them.
          1. 0
            16 June 2022 08: 22
            The Belarusians are no less interested than ours in the liquidation of the UkroReich, but they sit, scribble comments, wait for the Russians to do all the work for them.

            - Personally, I write about it! - Yes, and you here ... here ... here I put pluses!
            - Everyone "understands everything perfectly" and everyone "supports everything perfectly"!
            - But, with all this - the whole of Belarus "stocked up with popcorn" and grinds it; watching how in Ukraine our RF Armed Forces "grind" the Natsik Armed Forces of Ukraine! - That's it - it's easier for Belarus to "grind popcorn" !!!

            The problem is that in the West Belarus is already considered responsible for the NWO

            - Ha, no. - Belarus is not considered "lost" for the West at all! - There are still many very "bad nuances" that can greatly change the situation! - My opinion is that the United States and the West simply "lulled the vigilance" of Russia regarding Lukashenka (Belarus)! - And Russia is very "strongly led" to this! - And now the "golden time" has come for Lukashenka! - Lukashenka can easily receive "$ billion loans" from the USA today (why should the Americans make such an "offer" to him) ??? - And Lukashenka "will not resist" !!! - And what a blow this will be for Russia - an absolute disaster !!! - So today the United States has "someone to bet on" in order to "ruin everything" !!!
  3. +4
    15 June 2022 13: 41
    I think that if, in response to these regular shelling of Donbass and the city of Donetsk, massive retaliatory missile strikes were also regularly carried out, then this issue would have already been resolved, because the location of enemy artillery. Batteries have long been well known, and our aviation could well cover this territory with carpet bombing, but for some reason this has not yet been done, the big question is why ???
  4. +4
    15 June 2022 14: 01
    Really, this special operation reminds me of 1 Chechen one. We fight, we fight, but somehow nothing. Boys are dying and we are all playing chivalry. The railways have not been destroyed, because there are various cargoes from Kazakhstan and other countries. They talked about it on channel 1. Business is EVERYTHING, people's lives are nothing. And there is no need for la la, which then needs to be restored. We will have to restore the whole of Ukraine. And military cargoes go back along these roads. They promised to hit the decision-making centers and do not hit the RADE. And this is the first object of decision. Our people do not want the death of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and our soldiers. So why the hell did you even start?
  5. +2
    15 June 2022 14: 07
    we need to stop imitating the fight against Lend-Lease

    But this is exactly what those who "spun and spun" around the signatories of the Minsk agreements do not allow to do. No, not those who signed, but those who "whispered and slandered" various crap in their ears. These are the same people who 8 years ago removed those who wanted to go to Kyiv.
  6. +5
    15 June 2022 14: 12
    If the shelling continues and there is no adequate response, then this is beneficial to someone, as well as the fact that in 2014 the Nazis were not pushed away from Donetsk and were not allowed to liberate Mariupol, there are many questions, but not a single answer, only significant silence
  7. +1
    15 June 2022 15: 01
    But what, there are no drones that can hang over a certain territory for days and hit where they need to? They are on TV.
    1. 0
      15 June 2022 15: 07
      Borisov admitted that there were few of them. Kind of late to the problem
      1. 0
        15 June 2022 16: 34
        Well, with five pieces for a shift change? With thermal cameras?
  8. +2
    15 June 2022 17: 50
    Author, have you tried to convey your vision of the situation to the "parquet generals" from the "Kremlin" military district? I think not .. And rightly so. The article "On discrediting the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation" completely discourages the desire for even the slightest criticism. One hell, they, and others like them, will not understand that the war (or whatever) is "on points", especially in "white gloves", it is impossible to "win" ... (This is not tennis - EBN's eternal memory, panimaash ..). Need a win. And she is not won, she is for-in-e-you-va-et-sya !!! And until they begin to “fly in” at their dachas on Rublyovka (and this is quite possible, judging by the growth of hysterical statements by all kinds of “gynecologist ladies”, “senile grandfathers”), they will not understand this. They won't understand that
    for each "arrival" in Kursk, Voronezh, Belgorod - OUR people - there should be a "response" ... Kyiv, Lvov, Ivano-Frankivsk ... (..." through decision-making centers" ... Sorry for the sarcasm. ..).
    It is time.
    And two ... My nephew, Colonel OMON, the third month THERE (both "Chechen" behind). Nothing about him. I have no right. I just told him before sending - Take care of the guys. And yourself. This is not Chechnya - this is worse and meaner ... And throw all these tales about the "brotherly" people out of your head! Donetsk did not just take up arms - they know perfectly well what these "French" Galician ghouls are like ... (Google to the rescue). And to divide the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Nazis into "good" and "bad" - pure water (mat) ...
    PS Now personal. The word "French" I first learned from a letter from my classmate, who served as a "conscript" in the then Soviet Army (DMB 77-79) somewhere near Ivano-Frankivsk. We corresponded ... And in one of the letters (the topic came up "about layoffs" - I served in the Vologda region, air defense, an automated control system operator, 1st class, a sergeant - what kind of layoffs are there ...) he writes to me: - "Vit, yes, we too They won't let you go anywhere. The political officer says - Guys, we need to return you all home alive ... All because of these freaks - "French" ... While sober - tolerable. And when they get drunk ... or even worse - "high "... This is (further mate ...). I didn't understand then what he was talking about. And then I just forgot.
    But when it all began to spin, on one of the branches of the Russian Spring resource, I came across this expression. How it hit - somewhere I heard it ... I started to "google" - that's it! I remembered this letter ... Now I understand the guy perfectly.
    It’s just that in Soviet times this topic was hushed up, not advertised, and was simply taboo ... Apart from specialist doctors, few people knew about it ...
    All good. We will win !
  9. +4
    15 June 2022 18: 05
    Why be surprised? :
    meanwhile:

    14.50 Gazprom:
    Gas reserves in European UGS facilities were replenished by 26,2 billion cubic meters. m, for a level of 90% it is necessary to pump about 37 billion cubic meters more.

    right - instead of stopping deliveries to obvious enemies and forcing them to "bend" and "tighten their belts" tighter, deliveries are on the rise, with payment for transit to the regime ..
    In the meantime:

    16.20 Gazprom:
    The operation of another Siemens gas turbine at the Portovaya station is being stopped; from tomorrow, the company will be able to supply no more than 67 million cubic meters of gas per day to Nord Stream.

    right - more than 20 years of "import substitution" on paper have been made completely dependent on "colleagues and partners", why be surprised ?!

    14.40 Turkish TV channel TPT:
    Turkey, Russia and Ukraine have formed an open channel of communication through the Ministry of Defense to resolve the problem of grain exports.

    But how else, nothing personal, just business?! Can anyone imagine a Soviet-Turkish-German agreement on the export of grain from Nazi Germany?! Weird and dull, if not worse...
    not to mention the reduction in the percentage of mandatory delivery of foreign exchange earnings by exporters and an increase in the permitted amount of currency withdrawn from Russia to foreign banks ... and so on.
    Meanwhile :

    16.30 Pentagon:
    It is impossible to weaken the supply of weapons to Kyiv, since "the stakes are too high." The United States is counting on the fact that the MLRS supplied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine will significantly strengthen the potential of the Ukrainian troops, and such military assistance will continue.

    16.10 Reuters referring to British Defense Minister Ben Wallace: Britain is studying the possibility of supplying Ukraine with Brimstone anti-ship guided missiles. Armament stocks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are depleted and Western countries need to do more in training Ukrainian troops, in the field of artillery they are often outnumbered in a very high ratio.

    and in response:

    17.00 Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Nikolay Patrushev:
    It was the destructive actions of the United States, Britain and their allies that led to the termination of the Russian-Ukrainian dialogue.

    "Russian-Ukrainian dialogue"?! with whom?! with a "gang of drug addicts and Nazis" (V. Putin's words)?!
    stunned, split consciousness does not torment?!
    and arrivals to the territory of both Russia and Donbass continue, with destruction and human casualties .... Isn't it because it's time to decide who is friend, who is enemy, there is a war of the West against Russia or just a business showdown, in Kyiv - "a gang of drug addicts and Nazis" or "respected" "partners" under the agreements?!
    Stop curtsying, people are dying every day, both civilian and military in Russia, the LPR and the DPR. and then, someone is all about the negotiations and who is hindering this. Although there can be no negotiations, except for the unconditional surrender of the Bandera regime! And for every strike on Donetsk, Lugansk, Russia - strikes on all known military and administrative facilities in Ukraine, without strange "selectivity". Until the bosses of Banderstadt begin to die en masse, nothing will change. Impunity breeds permissiveness, and given the transfer of increasingly heavy and long-range weapons to the Nazis, the consequences will be grave. Instead of acting "after", isn't it better to pre-empt and prevent this from happening?! If the enemy does not surrender, they destroy him!
    1. +1
      15 June 2022 21: 22
      The fact that the railways in Western Ukraine are still intact is some kind of alchemy. 15-20% of the entire railway infrastructure in Ukraine has been disabled, but after all, weapons reach the East. And not only howitzers, but also tanks and other armored vehicles. Maybe the appearance of HIMARS and MLRS will finally be the trigger for the most important political decision - the complete removal of Ukrozaliznitsa from operation. American weapons should not kill our military. No civilians.
    2. +2
      16 June 2022 14: 11
      In the meantime, one more "promiser" of "attacks on the centers" and "consequences":

      9.40 State Duma deputy from the Crimean region Mikhail Sheremet on the threats of the general of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to strike at the Crimean bridge:
      The Crimean bridge is guarded by modern air defense systems. The bridge is secure. Therefore, we do not even advise the Kyiv Nazis to try to inflict provocations. Otherwise, their attempts and plans will be followed by lightning retribution. Decision-making centers will be destroyed, including in Kyiv. We also warn Western countries of the possible consequences if they decide to supply Ukraine with the requested weapons.

      Meanwhile:

      11.12 Powerful explosions are heard in the Kirovsky, Kuibyshevsky, Proletarsky and Petrovsky districts of Donetsk - RIA Novosti correspondent. Due to the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two houses caught fire.

      For 8 years, Donetsk has not been bombed so massively as it is now, and let us remind you that Russia also "arrives" almost daily. And things are still there and the "centers" are in order. Weakness and lack of opportunity or betrayal and indulgence of the enemy?! And this is not about the Russian army, but about the "nettle seed" in the corridors of power.
      But:

      12.40 Since the beginning of the special operation in Ukraine, as a result of cyber attacks, the data of 65 million Russians have been stolen - Deputy Chairman of the Board of Sberbank Stanislav Kuznetsov.

      this is the same Sber Gref with his most powerful and "unique" "artificial intelligence" and complete irresponsibility ...

      12.00 There will be no ban on the circulation of the dollar, euro and other currencies in Russia - Nabiullina.

      No comments...
      and cherry:

      13.00 To support automakers, civil servants should be transferred to the Lada, Siluanov said at the SPIEF. In turn, Peskov said that, as an official, he was ready for anything, including transferring to a Lada.

      Most officials need to be transplanted, in principle, from the verb "plant" .... And, I remember one figure has already transplanted and planted others on the Volga ... the cut of the budget and the zilch were notable ... History repeats itself? ..
      yet another "surprise":

      13.15 NATO confirms that it is ready for long-term arms supplies to Ukraine - Secretary General Stoltenberg.

      13.45 Finland is going to demolish the monument to Lenin because of the country's plans to join NATO - The Independent newspaper.

      one well-known "historian" immediately comes to mind - for whom Lenin both "planted a bomb" and "created Ukraine" and apparently, according to this logic, "drew the Finns into NATO"?
      remind:

      I think that it was precisely the leaders of October XNUMX who laid a time bomb under this building, the building of a unitary state, which was called Russia. After all, what did they do? On the other hand, they have destroyed what draws together and unites the peoples of civilized countries, namely, market relations. Destroyed the market as such, emerging capitalism.

      It turns out that peoples and countries are united not by the desire for peace, good neighborliness, cooperation and mutual assistance, and simple human happiness, but a "market" that decides everything? ..one would like to ask - "your Poles son helped you", they are also capitalists (Western "partners and colleagues" and "what unites" - market relations?! Which are now showing themselves with might and main in Ukraine, including the present the face of both the market and those very "civilized countries"?!
      1. 0
        16 June 2022 14: 34
        14.05 Russians need to live on rubles and not look at the value of the dollar — VTB CEO Andrey Kostin on the sidelines of SPIEF 2022.

        somehow it doesn’t correlate with the previous passage nabiullinsim ... but there’s definitely no point in looking at the dollar - the dollar is growing - prices are rising, the dollar is falling - prices are rising ... expensive oil is expensive gasoline, cheap oil is still expensive gasoline .. ..The same "market" that "unites" ...
  10. bsb
    +3
    15 June 2022 18: 31
    Only after the shelling of Kyiv will the shelling of Donetsk stop.
    1. 0
      15 June 2022 20: 29
      Far from a fact.
  11. +3
    15 June 2022 22: 38
    Ukrainian Nazis use German Nazi tactics. What they did to the German Nazis, hanging by the neck, must be done to the Ukrainian Nazis. But who will do it, if politicians like Stalin have not yet been born. On this and that side, the countries are ruled by those who defeated and plundered the previous country. They are of the same blood, like Akela and Bagheera.
  12. +2
    15 June 2022 23: 05
    In general, the Kremlin has a rather interesting attitude towards those who have retained pro-Russian sentiments after 2014. As a result, Donbass will pay a very bloody price for its pro-Russianness. I am sure that if people knew what Russian flags would turn out for them in the 14th, the history of Donbass would have gone the other way.
  13. +3
    16 June 2022 07: 42
    Quote: Mks7
    In general, the Kremlin has a rather interesting attitude towards those who have retained pro-Russian sentiments after 2014. As a result, Donbass will pay a very bloody price for its pro-Russianness. I am sure that if people knew what Russian flags would turn out for them in the 14th, the history of Donbass would have gone the other way.

    Yes it is. In the Donbass, people are for Russia now because without it they are completely screwed. The Kremlin itself turns its supporters against itself with such an attitude.
  14. +4
    16 June 2022 13: 32
    Quote: k7k8
    You would choose your expressions carefully.

    Can I choose not to? If you please, find on the map a small village in the Luhansk region called Novodaryevka. This is so that they do not strain about the "officer's daughter". Found? This is my small homeland, where I go every summer. There are the graves of my parents and all my relatives. So here's a direct speech to you from my older brother: "Daryevka is empty, there are simply no peasants on the street! Even the traders from the bazaar were sent to the front!" And in the neighboring village of Dzerzhinka, the women burned the house of the chairman, who gathered other people's husbands for the war, but hides her own! This is the "trench truth", whether you like it or not!
  15. 0
    17 June 2022 05: 16
    How to finish? One order from Putin and business for a couple of hours ..
    1. 0
      20 June 2022 22: 46
      It is forbidden! There are also feudal brothers.
  16. 0
    20 June 2022 13: 26
    Where are the military analysts then? Who should calculate it in advance? Stvnno so everything looks like a rake.
  17. -1
    20 June 2022 22: 45
    You can move Donetsk to a place where shells of infernal shelling do not reach.