Did Russia have the right to be the first to launch a preventive strike on Ukraine


In the domestic and foreign press, as well as in the blogosphere, one can periodically encounter complaints that Russia itself started a war with Ukraine in vain, but it was necessary to wait until it first attacked the DPR and LPR, and then hit it with all its crushing military might. Allegedly, at that time, many Ukrainians would not have considered that they were waging a “patriotic war”, defending their country from “Russian orcs”. This position certainly needs to be evaluated and commented on in detail.


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This difficult topic involuntarily refers us to the genre of alternative history, when sometimes they talk about what would happen if the USSR itself was the first to launch a preventive strike against Nazi Germany. Optimists believe that the war would then have been fought on the territory of the Third Reich, the many millions of victims of the Soviet people and the destruction of infrastructure could have been avoided, and the Red Army would have taken Berlin many years earlier. Pessimists, on the contrary, believe that then the entire collective West would have fought against the USSR on the side of the Fuhrer, and it would not be worth even dreaming of any lend-lease that contributed to the Victory. How it could have happened between 1939 and 1941, God knows.

But we know exactly what happened after the decision of President Putin on February 24, 2022, to be the first to launch a special military operation to demilitarize and denify Ukraine. The collective West has really united and is waging a proxy war against Russia through the hands of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard. However, the countries of Southeast Asia, the Middle East, Latin and South America, as well as other regions, have taken a position of neutrality towards Russia, rather even a friendly one. The local elites do not receive information on TV and know what is really happening in Ukraine and with whom the RF Armed Forces and the NM of the DPR and LPR are fighting. Moreover, the Chinese authorities, having looked at the course of the Russian NMD, allowed their PLA to conduct "special military operations" without an official declaration of war. Taiwan, tremble.

But let us return to the accusation of our country that, without declaring war, it was itself the first to commit an act of military aggression against a sovereign state. This is pure propaganda fiction, which is very easily refuted. In fact, it was Ukraine that first attacked Russia. Yes Yes exactly. Let us now take into account the fact that the US Democratic Party in 2014 carried out a coup d'état in the underbelly of Russia, accompanied by massacres of civilians and extrajudicial executions of dissenters. What is worth, for example, the murder by prior conspiracy in a generally dangerous way of more than four dozen supporters of the ideas of federalization and rapprochement with Russia in the Odessa House of Trade Unions on May 2? Let's move on to the very specific fact of Ukrainian military aggression against our country.

So, on July 13, 2014, during the so-called anti-terrorist, but in fact a terrorist operation in the Donbass, the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired a high-explosive artillery shell on the territory of the Rostov region, which hit the Russian city of Donetsk (do not confuse it with Donetsk, the capital of the DPR), hitting a residential building , resulting in the death of 47-year-old Russian Andrey Shulyatyev, and an 82-year-old pensioner was seriously injured from the blast wave. Here is the real casus belli (lat. casus belli - “case (for) war”, “military incident”) 8 years before the start of a special military operation. We discussed this in detail in article dated November 23, 2021. Then it was of no use to anyone.

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And now we need to take a closer look at the argument that supposedly it was necessary to wait wisely for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to attack the DPR and LPR first, and only then defeat them utterly so that the Ukrainians would not worry so much and hate Russia less.

Dear friends, please look at the course of the special military operation, which has been going on for the fourth month. Contrary to the hatred moods of the previous 8 years, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard for some reason did not run away after the first shots were fired at their farms. On the contrary, they very competently and skillfully put up fierce resistance and in places successfully go over to the counteroffensive, as near Kharkov. Since 2015, NATO instructors have taught the Ukrainian military how to fight, and they have learned, and Russophobic propaganda motivated them.

So, imagine what would happen if this entire Eastern grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard were the first to go on a large-scale offensive in the Donbass, where it was opposed only by the People’s Militia of the DPR and LPR, which were many times inferior in number, armament and training. They would have swept it away in a few days, having occupied Donetsk and Lugansk, and staged a bloodbath there, and the Russian army simply would not have had time to intervene. This is the same “Croatian scenario”, and the probability of its successful implementation was close to 100%. Then they would have to be knocked out from the territory of the DPR and LPR according to the “Mariupol” scenario, demolishing these cities under the foundation, and the Ukrainian army would eventually simply retreat to pre-prepared positions in the fortified areas. This is food for thought for those who are now saying that Kyiv should have been allowed to strike first.

From what has been said, the conclusion automatically follows that Russia had the right to intervene in any case and at any stage. On the one hand, even before the official recognition of the independence of the DPR and LPR, more than 700 Russian citizens who received red passports in a simplified manner already lived on their territory. Regular shelling of the peaceful cities of Donbass by the Armed Forces of Ukraine created a permanent danger to their life and health, so the Kremlin had the right to send in troops and drive away Ukrainian terrorist artillerymen under the “Ossetian” scenario.

On the other hand, we should not forget that Russia from the very beginning positioned itself as a guarantor of the security of the DNR and LNR. The special military operation was preceded by the recognition of the state independence of these republics, the withdrawal from the unviable Minsk agreements - 2, as well as an official warning to Kyiv about the need to withdraw its troops from the Donbass. A few days earlier, on February 16, 2022, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to conduct fierce fire on peaceful settlements of the DPR and LPR so that they even had to announce the evacuation of people, mobilization and turn to Moscow for help and recognition. On February 21, the People's Republics of Donbass were finally recognized, and on the 24th, a special operation began to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine.

What conclusions can we draw?

Contrary to the theses of false pro-Western propaganda, it was not Russia, but Ukraine that first attacked the Russian Federation and showed military aggression against Russian citizens in the Donbass, the special operation was just a response, 8 years late. No one but herself, Square can not be blamed. A truly smart decision by the Kremlin would have been not to bring the situation to such a level of conflict, but the decision to start the NMD was the lesser of two evils if you choose between a preemptive strike and waiting for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to crush and trample on the NM LDNR and arrange a bloodbath there.
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  1. gorskova.ir Offline gorskova.ir
    gorskova.ir (Irina Gorskova) 14 June 2022 17: 41
    +2
    First and further .... The preemptive strike was carried out "without declaring war." It's some kind of porridge. Firstly, Russia recognized the republics and, having received data (which is confirmed by fortified bunkers and other caches) that Ukraine wants to wipe Donbass off the face of the earth again (which is again confirmed by wild shelling of houses, schools, hospitals ....) At the request of the DPR, the LPR came to their defense. Russia, in contrast to the ugly "test-tube evidence" acts only within the framework of developed laws. Not like those who pump weapons to madmen.
  2. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 14 June 2022 18: 00
    +3
    Russia was forced to start the NMD precisely at that time in view of the growing shelling of the Nazis. Probably it was possible to start earlier, but Putin rightly set the date of the offensive for the Defender of the Fatherland Day holiday
  3. akm8226 Offline akm8226
    akm8226 14 June 2022 19: 29
    +2
    The question itself is incorrect. The former dill is Russian, it is our land. And the fact that the drunkard Yeltsin squandered the royal lands while drunk does not negate the need to return everything to the Russian treasury. Otak here.
  4. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 June 2022 19: 42
    +2
    The whole problem is that for some reason Russia has to prove the legitimacy of its actions, based on "international law." No one in the world bothers with such trifles. Israel struck in 1967 and is not very worried about this. Similarly, he struck in 1982.
    The states occupied Grenada in 1983 to ensure the safety of tourists (!!!). They don't worry either.
    The state of Russia has a sphere of vital interests. Unlike the States, whose sphere of vital interests is the entire globe and near-Earth space, Russia demanded to ensure security directly on its borders. The moment she was denied this security, she already had every right to start hostilities. After all, the President of Russia warned the West in December 2021 that in case of refusal, Russia would take "measures of a military-technical nature."
    An explanation was given by Lavrov and his deputy. Literally January 12, 2021

    "We will take all necessary measures to counter these threats by military meansif it doesn’t turn out to be political,” promised Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 June 2022 21: 31
      -7
      Quote: Bakht
      The state of Russia has a sphere of vital interests.

      Yep, living space.

      Quote: Bakht
      Russia demanded to ensure security directly on its borders.

      As I understand it, no one cares about the safety of neighbors.

      Quote: Bakht
      The moment she was denied this security, she already had every right to start hostilities.

      Who threatened the nuclear power of the Russian Federation? Estonia with Romania?

      Quote: Bakht
      The moment she was denied this security, she already had every right to start hostilities.

      From the point of view of international law, definitely not.

      Quote: Bakht
      After all, the President of Russia warned the West in December 2021 that in case of refusal, Russia would take "measures of a military-technical nature."

      It's certainly cool. Who should be responsible for NATO expansion after 1997? That's right, Ukraine. Is it logical? Not very much in my opinion. How does the NVO against Ukraine improve the security of the Russian Federation from NATO? I don't think so, rather the opposite.
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 June 2022 22: 18
        +6
        Don't write nonsense. Although you are not used to it.
        Your main stupidity lies in the fact that there is no point in referring to "international law" (I put this word in quotation marks for the second time). And give links to UN documents too. The West itself destroyed this very right.
        NATO must be held accountable for NATO expansion. And those who aspire to NATO must understand what it threatens them personally.
        Read V. Suvorov's "Icebreaker". It says very clearly what the neutral barrier means. And at the same time, read what M. Saakashvili proposes. He certainly had an epiphany after February 24th. It will never come to you.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 June 2022 00: 57
          -5
          Quote: Bakht
          Your main stupidity lies in the fact that there is no point in referring to "international law" (I put this word in quotation marks for the second time). And give links to UN documents too. The West itself destroyed this very right.

          Quote: Bakht
          she already had every right to start hostilities.

          What right are you talking about then?

          Quote: Bakht
          Read V. Suvorov's "Icebreaker". It says very clearly what the neutral barrier means.

          Do you like this traitor? It says, as far as I remember, that the USSR was preparing to attack Germany, for which it "dismantled" the neutral barrier of Poland. Do you agree with this? Neutral Ukraine is now a utopia, and if it disappears, then the direct border with NATO countries.

          I wonder why you immediately start to be rude?
          We do know that

          Quote: isofat
          The dumber a person, the faster he condescends to insults.
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 15 June 2022 05: 03
            +6
            I already wrote that you did not understand the meaning of Stalin's order. And you wrote about the "divineness" of Stalin's words, not me. I wrote about the mobilizing significance of this order. An analogue of such "divine" words can be found in Churchill.

            As for the law, again, you write, not me. There is no international law. There are written laws that have not been enforced for a long time. But there is a moral right to protection. A state that kills its citizens loses its right to sovereignty. So your beloved UN has long recognized this and formalized it in its documents.

            I don't like V. Suvorov and wrote lies. But the factual side is repeated once again. In the last century, Germany destroyed the separation barrier and approached the borders of the USSR. This led to war. Now NATO has broken the divided barrier and approached the borders of Russia. The difference is that Seis Russia did not wait. And this means that the fault lies with the Western countries. Suvorov laid the blame on the USSR, and this is a lie. You are now placing the blame on Russia and this is also a lie.
            The neutral barrier broke the West. And yes, Estonia, Romania, and Poland pose a mortal danger to Russia. And Ukraine has never been neutral. But now it will.

            I wrote to you why I'm starting to be rude. Because your position does not cause any respect for you personally. If such things are written in the West, this is understandable. These are enemies and they cannot write otherwise. Only scum and traitors can hate their own country like that. So from my point of view, you do not deserve any other treatment.
            1. Valentine Offline Valentine
              Valentine (Valentin) 15 June 2022 16: 07
              +2
              Dear Bakhtiyar, you shouldn’t wag your nerves with this notorious provocateur who keeps thinking that with his words he will bring confusion into the heads of the local commentators, teach them, and teach the liberalist mind-reason. .. on the fan", and continuous dislikes only make him happy, apparently mom and dad, at his birth, inadvertently made an error in his psyche with disgust for our country and what is happening in it .... You just ignore him, but he is already used to it, you are at the door, and he is at the window.
              1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 15 June 2022 16: 17
                +1
                Thanks to. I try not to contact him. Useless. But sometimes you still need to respond to his attacks. If you do not react, he may think (and often thinks so) that they cannot object to him.
                There is no understanding of the situation, no knowledge of history, all the more adequacy. Gumilyov has a moment when Alexander Nevsky subdued the "Westerners" of Novgorod. Their leader was his brother Andrew. Well, Alexander took pity on his brother, but "he took out the eyes of the rebels, because he believed that those who do not see anything around do not need eyes."
                1. Valentine Offline Valentine
                  Valentine (Valentin) 15 June 2022 20: 02
                  +3
                  You see, Bakhtiyar, he responds to our arguments with his rudeness, i.e. dislikes, and his little soul is rotten.
                2. Chukchi farm worker (Chukchi farm worker) 16 June 2022 09: 25
                  -2
                  No, no, it's very cool to look at two Russophobes as they offend each other). At one self-conceit rolls over and the second with the suppressed CHSV. And the most important thing in them, and, perhaps, the same and uniting these characters, this is what is often found in blondes!
      2. Luis Betton Offline Luis Betton
        Luis Betton (Vladimir) 14 June 2022 22: 36
        0
        You would have solved all the problems in one fell swoop, if you were in the place of our president! It is a pity that there is already a job as a taxi driver!
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 June 2022 01: 19
          -6
          I don't apply. But of course it's so mediocre....Ukraine is just something. And the future of the Russian Federation is one. Well, if you can't handle it, go away. It's time to bring up the grandchildren to rest.
      3. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 15 June 2022 00: 23
        0
        Who should be responsible for NATO expansion after 1997? That's right, Ukraine. Is it logical? Not very much in my opinion.

        Very logical. It's just that Ukraine was the first to swell. I received it first. But not the last.

        As I understand it, no one cares about the safety of neighbors.

        Putin is the president of Russia, not the neighbors. Therefore, he is concerned about the security of Russia and those who are friends with Russia. Orban spoke very clearly about this several times.

        From the point of view of international law, definitely not.

        Learning from Western "partners". To live with wolves - howl like a wolf. How was it with law in Libya, Yugoslavia, Iraq?

        Yep, living space.

        RF security zone.

        Who threatened the nuclear power of the Russian Federation? Estonia with Romania?

        And what? Romania has provided NATO with territory to deploy the Mk 41. That's enough already. Are you going to shoot at North Korea? Or Iran? The settings are universal. And the small-shaven ones let, after all, Harpoon through Moscow. The gypsies won't pay much for this. Well, Estonia has implemented NATO access at a distance of 120 km from St. Petersburg. Oh well ...
        Now, looking at Estonia, the Russian Federation climbed into Nicaragua. Biden's path is freaking out.

        How does the NVO against Ukraine improve the security of the Russian Federation from NATO? I don't think so, rather the opposite.

        Yes, it simply pushes the borders of NATO to the Danube and Chop. To start. The Baltic Extinctions are next. Or Poland, how the psheks will behave.
  5. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 June 2022 19: 54
    -5
    Contrary to the theses of false pro-Western propaganda, it was not Russia, but Ukraine that first attacked the Russian Federation

    I wonder if the author himself believes in this?

    https://www.un.org/ru/documents/decl_conv/conventions/aggression.shtml

    Article 5
    1. No considerations of any nature, whether political, economic, military or otherwise, can justify aggression.

    2. Aggressive war is a crime against international peace. Aggression entails international responsibility.

    3. No territorial acquisition or special benefit resulting from aggression is and cannot be recognized as lawful.
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 14 June 2022 20: 25
      +4
      What is the name of the eight-year shelling of civilians who did not want to live in a country with Hitlerite manners. They were forbidden to speak Russian and outlawed. Do you understand this a little, or do you not get it?
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 June 2022 21: 43
        -7
        Quote: zenion
        What is the name of the eight-year shelling of civilians who did not want to live in a country with Hitlerite manners.

        I don't know, ask the Chechens.

        Quote: zenion
        They were forbidden to speak Russian and outlawed.

        Why talk nonsense? I visited Kyiv at 18. There were no problems in communicating in Russian. Moreover, in the shopping center, having lunch in a cafe, I watched a children's birthday, all the children communicated with each other in Russian. For their president (a Jew by nationality) native Russian. Any Aristovichi broadcast for Ukrainians in Russian.
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 June 2022 22: 24
          +5
          Of course, there were no problems.


          Or here are some sketches. Never Nazis.

        2. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 15 June 2022 08: 42
          +3
          I don't know, ask the Chechens.

          This is the whole essence of man. If you don't know, don't talk. I know. Had the "pleasure" to travel through Chechnya by train. But if you like bandits and criminals, you could then go and ask.
        3. Chukchi farm worker (Chukchi farm worker) 16 June 2022 09: 33
          0
          Does it matter that their president is Jewish? Do you like Ukrainians, do you consider them victims? Enlist and protect them in the trenches. Express to Bandera should not stop even for a minute. Maybe, having fallen under Russian mortar fire and holding your torn testicles in one hand, in your last epiphany, with the other hand, write in the phone lying on the frog of the murdered squirrel from under the zhmerinka that the Ukrainians were wrong and the Ukrainians are ... ...... ......... and maybe even .......!!! But it might be too late.
    2. maxbuch Offline maxbuch
      maxbuch (Eugen) 14 June 2022 20: 54
      0
      And who do you believe? Welcome to the UN! 404
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 June 2022 21: 35
        -5
        At least think a little for yourself. Properly respected Sergey Latyshev said, to assert that Ukraine attacked the Russian Federation is akin to the assertion that Finland attacked the USSR in 39.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 15 June 2022 08: 31
          +2
          At least think a little for yourself. Correctly respected Sergey Latyshev said that to assert that Ukraine attacked the Russian Federation is akin to the assertion that Finland attacked the USSR in 39.

          Finland collaborated with the Third Reich. The Finnish border was only 30 km from Leningrad. The war was preceded by the fact that the USSR offered Finland a territorial exchange in order to push the border further away, which posed a danger to the country's second largest metropolis. She refused a peaceful solution to the issue and chose her own fate.
          Neither Serge nor you, the liberal Olezhka, are simply incompetent in the matters you undertake to discuss.
          1. boris epstein Offline boris epstein
            boris epstein (Boris) 21 June 2022 09: 57
            0
            And there was another incident near the village of Mainila, when Finnish artillery fired on a car with Soviet border guard officers. The Finnish border guards who were subsequently taken prisoner confirmed that the shells on Soviet territory were flying from behind them.
    3. guest Offline guest
      guest 19 June 2022 00: 52
      0
      You tell all this to your overseas masters, they generally cannot live without aggression against anyone.
  6. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 June 2022 19: 55
    -4
    A few days earlier, on February 16, 2022, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to conduct fierce fire on peaceful settlements of the DPR and LPR so that they even had to announce the evacuation of people, mobilization and turn to Moscow for help and recognition.

    Everyone understands though. Why build innocence out of yourself?
  7. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 14 June 2022 21: 06
    -1
    In fact, it was Ukraine that first attacked Russia.

    And Finland at 39 - on the USSR.
    And the Poles - against Germany at the same time ...
    And Suvorov in the Icebreaker - that Nazi Germany was slightly ahead of the USSR in 41m ....
    Why not believe Suvorov?

    And according to the Old Man, the Ukrainians insidiously wanted to attack precisely his Belarus, and the FSB would allegedly confirm it.
    President, why not believe it? -Immediately they intended to fight on 3 fronts, we definitely stood up for the Old Man ...

    Well, the Americans will either preemptively attack because of the white powder, then the Vietnamese boats there treacherously attacked the Amerians in the ocean, and therefore the JSA for a long time babbled and poisoned the attacking terrible red Vietnamese, then they will preemptively take away the Cuba from the Spaniards ...
    etc..

    Everything repeats itself, imperialism must expand .......
  8. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 14 June 2022 21: 16
    0
    1. Question to the editors. And why are there “thumbs up, approves” under the articles, but not “thumbs down, what are you smoking?”. Dear editors are afraid that the authors will be offended by the number of negative reactions to the material? So they carry water on the offended.
    2. The author wrote everything absolutely correctly. But for some reason it makes everyone present here believe that Russia would sit on the priest evenly and breathe evenly, and would not build up a military group in the border area to IMMEDIATELY repel a very likely act of invasion. And the ukrovermacht would not have had a couple of days. Moreover, crests also had a very vulnerable spot - the border with Crimea. Still, they probably remember that the most successful and bloodless grouping acted, advancing from the Crimea. The same Aksenov, the very next day after the start of the operation, inspected the water intake of the North Crimean Canal for water supply. And the entire Kherson region was occupied practically without a fight.
    And so, yes, everything is rather complicatedly written. Only half-truths are often worse than lies.
  9. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 14 June 2022 21: 26
    +1
    Quote: zenion
    What is the name of the eight-year shelling of civilians

    What is the eight year wait called? Hope that it will resolve itself?
  10. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 14 June 2022 23: 14
    +2
    Any action must be enshrined in the Law, otherwise it is lawlessness.
    Rationale. Why does Russia need a Law on Ukraine.
    It is necessary to legislate that the territory of Ukraine, seized by the separatists with the help of NATO, is the property of Russia.
    Then, in accordance with the Law, the military operation carried out by Russia in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia, the reunification of peoples.
    The presence of the Law will designate the goal, give certainty about the future to the citizens of the Russian Federation and citizens of Ukraine. Citizens living on the territory of Ukraine will not have to be afraid in the future for themselves, for persecution by the fascist regime.
    All actions of the Russian Army on the territory of Ukraine will comply with the Law. The law will not allow NATO to intervene, to bring troops from Poland, Romania, Hungary into the territory of Ukraine, and the annexation of Ukraine by these countries will automatically disappear.
    The unilateral appeal adopted on December 5, 1991 by the Supreme Council of Ukraine “To the Parliaments and Peoples of the World”, by which it announced that “Ukraine considers the 1922 Treaty on the Establishment of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics with respect to itself null and void” is void, since in 1936 a new The Constitution of the USSR, with the entry into force of which the Constitution of the USSR of 1924 ceased to operate, including the Treaty on the Formation of the USSR of 1922. The Treaty on the Formation of the USSR of 1922 did not exist as an independent legal document.
    The withdrawal of the Republic of Ukraine from the USSR was possible only with a positive decision received at the USSR Referendum and the implementation of the USSR Law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I “On the procedure for resolving issues related to the withdrawal of a union republic from the USSR”.
    The USSR Constitution of 1977 was adopted by all the peoples of the USSR, and only the entire people of the USSR could give permission for Ukraine to leave the USSR.
    The exit of Ukraine without a nationwide referendum in the USSR and the failure to comply with the law of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I is a criminal offense that has no statute of limitations.
    The Treaty "On Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine" dated May 31, 1997 ceased to be valid on April 1, 2019 due to its denunciation by Ukraine. The termination of this Treaty releases the Russian Federation from any obligation in relation to Ukraine.
    The USSR - the successor - the right successor of the Russian Empire, and the Russian Federation-Russia the successor - the right successor of the USSR. All of them are the same subject of history and international law (RF), which has a new name and a different socio-political system. The Russian Federation-Russia and the USSR paid off all debts, including those of the Russian Empire, for which there are court decisions or other supporting documents. For example, between 1997 and to 2000 From the budget of the Russian Federation, payments were made in the total amount of 400 million US dollars in favor of the Government of the French Republic for the debts of the Government of the Russian Empire. In August 2006, the Russian Federation fully repaid the lend-lease debt to the United States. There are no outstanding debts, we do not consider modern loans. This is a fact that the Russian Federation has unilaterally assumed obligations to be the successor - successor of the Russian Empire and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR).
    Russia did not transfer, sell or donate to the former Soviet republic of the USSR Ukraine its territories, as well as its foreign assets.
    It is urgently necessary for the Russian Federation-Russia, as the successor of the Russian Empire and the USSR, and as the owner of the territory of the former USSR republic of Ukraine, to secure Russia's ownership of this territory within the 1975 borders. by legislative means, unilaterally.
    Example. In 2005, China passed the Anti-Secession Law. According to the document, in the event of a threat to the peaceful reunification of the mainland and Taiwan, the PRC government is obliged to resort to force and other necessary methods to preserve its territorial integrity. On June 15, 2022, China adopted the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) legal framework for non-military military operations. That will allow the PRC army to participate in operations not related to the war.
    The absence of a law stating that the territory of Ukraine is the property of Russia allows Russia's enemies to interpret the ongoing special military operation as aggression and occupation by Russia and allows NATO countries to annex this no man's territory.
    There is only one decision on Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine should return to Russia, in the form of regions and republics. There is no need to ask permission from anyone, everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state of Ukraine, there are no debts, there is no government of Ukraine in exile, there are no Ukrainian participants in various international organizations, there is no hostile state on the border of Russia.
    If the state of Ukraine is left, then today and in the future, Russia will always have a headache. Ukraine will definitely join NATO. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, in the way that is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.
    1. boriz Offline boriz
      boriz (boriz) 15 June 2022 09: 33
      0
      The absence of a law stating that the territory of Ukraine is the property of Russia allows Russia's enemies to interpret the ongoing special military operation as aggression and occupation by Russia and allows NATO countries to annex this no man's territory.

      It will be too early.
      NATO (without the United States) will no longer dare to climb into Ukraine. And the West has other problems.
      And the state of Ukraine must fulfill one more function. When the RF Armed Forces approach Kyiv, the relevant district court (I don’t remember which one) of Kyiv must make a positive decision on the application filed last fall by Yanukovych’s lawyer. The decision to recognize the illegality of the dismissal of President Yanukovych. From a legal point of view, there are no problems, Ukrainian lawyers painted everything for another year in 2015-2016. The requirements of the Constitution of Ukraine on the impeachment of the president have not been met.
      Then all debts after Yanukovych can be asked personally from Turchynov, Poroshenko, Zelensky.
      And the United States will clean all these guys to their underpants.
      After that, Ukraine can be said "remaining goodbye."
  11. radvas Offline radvas
    radvas (Igor) 15 June 2022 06: 16
    +1
    Our president has already said many times that he learned the courtyard law from his childhood in Leningrad:

    If a fight is inevitable - you need to beat FIRST!

    In Ukraine, he was not heard. Rip it up!
  12. ChopChop Offline ChopChop
    ChopChop 15 June 2022 11: 29
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    An empty article about an alternative reality, "if". The date 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX is already in the past, and to say whether it is right or wrong is like crushing water in a mortar. It is necessary to think about how to get the maximum benefit from this situation and get out with minimal losses. You can win or lose a war, but the results of the win are very often used by completely different people.
  13. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 15 June 2022 12: 32
    +1
    She didn’t, but she should have back in 2014, but the Kremlin’s strategist made all cunning plans
  14. 4 stars Offline 4 stars
    4 stars (Alex Smile) 15 June 2022 12: 40
    +1
    I will tell you as a lawyer-lawyer of a Soviet university, the current actions of Russia and the Donbass republics in relation to Ukraine are legally justified:
    1) In 2014, a coup d'etat took place in Ukraine (a fact recorded by a Moscow court). The population of Donbass, Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, as citizens of Ukraine, opposing state criminals in Kyiv and in the field, absolutely legitimately fulfilled their constitutional duty - to protect the state, the Constitution of the country, the President and their rights guaranteed by this very Constitution. By virtue of the foregoing, the DPR and LPR are the only representatives of legitimate state power on the territory of Ukraine.
    2) In April 2014, the "bloody pastor" Turchynov, who usurped power (gross violation of the Constitution), ordered the use of regular troops (gross violation of the Constitution) against the population of Donbass, i.e. committed an act of aggression against the legitimate authorities of Ukraine. Who here referred to the UN resolution? To recognize aggression, it is not at all necessary that the LNR and the DNR be members of the UN.
    3) To protect against aggression, the DPR and LPR (let me remind you - the only legitimate authority on the territory of Ukraine) has the right to take any actions (including a military alliance with Russia) on the ALL territory of Ukraine. Everything is legal and logical: recognition of the Donbass republics by Russia -> treaties of friendship and mutual assistance -> joint reflection of the aggression of the criminal authorities in Kyiv.
    4) Open the 1948 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. Everything is stated clearly and understandably even without legal education. All those involved in the Russian genocide are known, the evidence is through the roof. The Convention obliges them to catch, judge, punish and not be considered political criminals, regardless of their positions.
    The only pity is that they did not stop the Nazis in 2014 ...
    1. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 (Victor) 15 June 2022 13: 47
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      Thank you, everything is logical, but the Kremlin does not like logic
      1. 4 stars Offline 4 stars
        4 stars (Alex Smile) 15 June 2022 14: 47
        -1
        It is important that the Commander-in-Chief acted logically, otherwise we would not have forgiven him "Stalin's mistake 2.0". In general, the number of historical parallels with those events is amazing.
    2. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
      vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 15 June 2022 17: 47
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      NOT A LAWYER, but a techie. In Ukraine, since 2014, there has been a civil war between the LDNR and Kyiv. The Russian Federation is not involved in the civil war in Ukraine. Read above my comment about the need for the RF Law on Ukraine. Everything before February 24, 2022 this is history, now we need military action, measures to force Kyiv to capitulate.
      There was no state of Ukraine in the Russian Empire. No USSR, no Ukraine.
      It is possible to create artificially the state of Ukraine, writing, culture, nationality Ukrainians, but they did not learn how to create artificial human brains, therefore, it was not possible to create a Ukrainian nation, it seems that all the attributes of the form of the state are there, but the state itself is not. Conclusion, Ukraine must be returned to Russia without asking anyone for permission, up to the use of the army. This is the territory of Russia.
    3. VladZ Offline VladZ
      VladZ (Vladimir) 16 June 2022 18: 45
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      The only pity is that they did not stop the Nazis in 2014 ..

      Admit it, but there was such an opportunity, and to do it without a war. You don’t get the feeling that we lost this opportunity by exchanging it for Crimea ...
  15. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 15 June 2022 13: 25
    +1
    Quote: Bakht
    then you could go and ask

    There is another point of view - How do Chechens behave and how do Chechens look at home in Chechnya?

    And it is confirmed by other people. My sister lives in the Crimea in the regional center. Chechen soldiers also rest there in the order of rotation. The sister says that she has not met more correct and cultured guys.
  16. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 15 June 2022 14: 59
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    Everything is simpler and more dramatic. At the time the NWO began, Ukraine had 30 tons of plutonium and 40 tons of enriched uranium. This is enough to make at least 10 nuclear charges, even taking into account the low concentration of the material, and more than enough to make several hundred "dirty" bombs. Pay attention to where our army went in the first place. After capturing these stocks, the army stopped rushing and instead of a blitzkrieg, switched to a war on the science of siege operations.
    1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
      k7k8 (vic) 15 June 2022 15: 17
      +2
      Quote: shinobi
      Pay attention to where our army went in the first place

      And the fact that Ukraine has three more nuclear power plants left - South Ukrainian, Rivne and Khmelnitsky - this, of course, does not count. And the fact that the Zaporozhye NPP is the largest in Europe does not matter. The critical mass of uranium-235 is 50 kg, plutonium-239 is 30 kg (and this is in a cannon-type nuclear warhead. Even less in implosive charges). How can other nuclear power plants cope with the accumulation of such a mass of material.
      In addition, the very first strategic infrastructure facility was occupied on the very first day of the NWO. This is the water intake of the North Crimean Canal. And Mr. Aksenov the very next day after the start, in a businesslike way, was handing out instructions and magic pendals to the local authorities.
      1. shinobi Offline shinobi
        shinobi (Yuri) 17 June 2022 01: 03
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        For now, it remains. And the threat has not gone away. NWO will continue.
    2. 4 stars Offline 4 stars
      4 stars (Alex Smile) 16 June 2022 13: 03
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      Nobody argues. Russia has more than enough moral and legal grounds to strike first, including the threat of manufacturing and using nuclear weapons. In addition, everyone has already forgotten that on February 23, the DRG of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on two infantry fighting vehicles invaded the territory of Russia, and this is a 100% casus belli.
    3. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
      vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 16 June 2022 15: 34
      +1
      Give a link to what Ukraine had on 24.02.2022/30/40. 1 tons of plutonium and 8000 tons of enriched uranium??? 30gram Pu=$000; 000g x $8 = $000 plutonium cost $240 billion.
      1. shinobi Offline shinobi
        shinobi (Yuri) 17 June 2022 01: 07
        -1
        Enter a query into Google and it will give you an answer. Information is in the public domain. Specifically, in the IAEA reports.
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  18. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
    Kofesan (Valery) 15 June 2022 21: 37
    +1
    I had ... and back in 2014. Stop driving a blizzard, sucking out the meaning of a simple and absolutely hard-won decision about SVO with false statements.

    Let the authors rejoice that their Nazi Ukraine is not bombed with nuclear weapons. Although there is a full basis for the destruction by any means of coming out of fascism ...

    PS...would Stalin have been fooling around with Hitler, having the Nuclear Bomb?
  19. annak08 Offline annak08
    annak08 (Anna Kuptsova) 16 June 2022 16: 48
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    Russia is fighting enemies - this is obvious. The enemies of Russia in the form of Ukrainians are ready to do anything to destroy Russia. They don't even understand. that this will not make their life better, since their literacy is very bad, because studying subjects in Ukrainian, thinking in Russian, the mind will not increase. "if a fight is inevitable, you need to start first"
  20. VladZ Offline VladZ
    VladZ (Vladimir) 16 June 2022 17: 56
    +1
    Of course, it was impossible to do nothing. But it was also possible to act differently, more openly and when the reaction of the "civilized world" would have been much more restrained. We all know that, in fact, the junta, the very next day after celebrating its moral "victory" on February 16, began massive shelling along the entire line of contact in the Donbass. The day after the recognition of the DPR and LPR and the signing of a security treaty with these republics, for example, on February 22, Russia could officially openly send its troops to the Donbass and, at the same time, delivering an ultimatum to Ukraine to end the ceasefire within 24 hours along the entire front line and taking further urgent action to implement the Minsk agreements. Naturally, Ukraine would not have fulfilled this condition, and then Russia would have had a completely free hand. Yes, there would have been no rapid capture of Kakhovka, Kherson, Melitopol, Berdyansk, "Brusilov's breakthrough" to Kyiv (which, as it turned out, was a gamble). But then all forces could be concentrated on the liberation of Donbass and the distance of the front line from Donetsk and Gorlovka in the first place. Yes, the factor of surprise would then be lost and the enemy would certainly have had time to prepare for a strike, and perhaps we would still approach Mariupol ... But in this case, Russia would have had room for political maneuver in this war, without any promising and blurry goals in the form of demilitarization and denazification. And it was possible to stop at any moment, without any conditions and guarantees, as in Georgia in 2008. And now, that's all ... the "Rubicon" has been crossed, the bridges have been burned and there is no way back ... And there is a long "tunnel" ahead to victory, and no one knows when the light will dawn in it ...
    1. 4 stars Offline 4 stars
      4 stars (Alex Smile) 21 June 2022 14: 03
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      Russia had no room for political maneuver, our dear strategist, because Bandera's Ukraine is entirely and completely a US project against Russia. Do you seriously assume that the West would have behaved differently towards Russia if Putin had waited for an attack on the LDNR? , only a few years later. In the event of a delay in the start of the NMD, there would be tens of thousands of victims, and you and I would already blame the commander in chief for this.
  21. Olga G Offline Olga G
    Olga G (Olga G) 18 June 2022 22: 09
    +1
    No ... you had to wait and immediately in the USA ---- be
  22. guest Offline guest
    guest 19 June 2022 00: 38
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    I don't know, ask the Chechens.

    Now I'm going to ask Ramzan Akhmatovich, but I think you won't like the answer.
  23. guest Offline guest
    guest 19 June 2022 00: 44
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    It's certainly cool. Who should be responsible for NATO expansion after 1997? That's right, Ukraine. Is it logical? Not very much in my opinion. How does the NVO against Ukraine improve the security of the Russian Federation from NATO? I don't think so, rather the opposite.

    If Russia does not win, then NATO bases will appear on the territory of this pseudo-state called Ukraine, capable of wiping Russia off the face of the earth, and this is unacceptable.
  24. boris epstein Offline boris epstein
    boris epstein (Boris) 21 June 2022 10: 07
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    The first belli incident was on February 21, 2022, when the DRG of the Armed Forces of Ukraine broke into the territory of Russia (in the Tarasovsky district). It was fired upon by Russian border guards. Requested reinforcements. Two BMPs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine broke into the territory of Russia and were burned by Russian border guards. Two members of the DRG of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were taken prisoner.

    The second incident of the belli was on February 23, 2022. From the Dronovka area, the Armed Forces of Ukraine fired Tochka-U missiles at a village in the Tarasovsky district of the Russian Federation. A civilian was killed.

    The article gives a complete geolocation of the place of launches of Ukrainian missiles.
    And only on February 24 (twenty-fourth) was a Russian helicopter landing in Gostomel.