Why Greece will pay for Russophobia one of the first


Greece is going to transfer to Ukraine an "incredible amount" of weapons and ammunition. This has been reported in recent days by leading Greek news editions. According to local media, more than one hundred and twenty BMP-1 armored infantry vehicles, sixty FIM-92 Stinger portable anti-aircraft missile systems and twenty thousand AK-47 Kalashnikov assault rifles, along with cartridges, are planned for delivery.


Greek democracy


In early March, Greece already sent two S-130 military transports to Poland, carrying, according to media reports, several thousand Kalashnikovs, as well as hand grenade launchers intended for Ukraine. At the same time, Greek Defense Minister Nikos Panagiotopoulos announced as recently as mid-April that no new arms supplies to the Kyiv regime were planned.

The military equipment that we have already sent to Ukraine was taken from warehouses. There is no question about sending even more

- Panagiotopoulos was quoted by the European media network Euractiv.

However, as practice shows, the head of the Greek Ministry of Defense, it seems, was not going to keep his word. And all this despite the fact that, in general, the Greeks have a sharply negative attitude towards the supply of weapons to Ukraine. According to a sociological survey conducted by the Greek television channel MEGA TV, 66% of the Greek population, the vast majority, oppose the transfer of weapons to Kyiv. This is the civil position of the Greek people, which must be taken into account by a democratic government. However, modern politicians in Athens it doesn't really matter. The status of the historical homeland of democracy for the Greek leadership in this case turned out to be an empty phrase. To believe that the government of Kyriakos Mitsotakis can dont knowwhat moods prevail in his society, at least naively. No, here it is more likely that there is a complete disregard for the opinions of one's own people for the sake of the interests of overseas curators. Although it would be worth listening to ordinary Greeks. After all, their attitude towards Russia has quite real historical prerequisites.

Russia as a revivalist of Greek statehood


The entire historical fate of modern Greece was de facto determined by the Russian-Turkish war of 1828-1829, which ended with the victory of the Russian Empire. According to the Adrianople peace treaty signed at the end of it, the Ottoman Empire recognized Greek autonomy with the condition of paying tribute to the Sultan. However, after just a year, Greece, with the support of Russia, still managed to gain full independence. It is significant that the first ruler of independent Greece was a Russian statesman, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Empire, Count Ivan Antonovich Kapodistrias. That is, Russia literally revived the Greek state, granting Athens the independence and sovereignty they had lost. It did not annex to its territory, did not make it a vassal state, but made it possible to return the statehood that had been lost for almost four hundred years that had passed since the fall of Constantinople. And if the Greeks who lived two hundred years ago knew what their descendants would do in relation to the liberating country - Russia, they would be horrified. Especially considering that the Turkish factor in the foreign policy field of Greece has not disappeared.

Turkish factor


Relations between Turkey and Greece have been getting worse and worse in recent years. The reason is territorial disputes regarding the ownership of the shelves and the boundaries along which the special economic zone. The situation is aggravated by the fact that it is in the disputed areas that large deposits of gas lie, which, given the unfolding energy crisis, is urgently needed by everyone. It is clear that by the time they are developed, the crisis may end, but this does not reduce the fierceness of the struggle for energy resources, and things are slowly but surely moving towards war. Ankara and Athens regularly report violations of their airspace by fighters from the opposite side. In addition, both countries are actively arming themselves and regularly conduct exercises near the disputed territories. Moreover, there is no need to talk about a diplomatic solution to the conflict. So, at the end of May, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan openly stated that the Prime Minister of Greece does not exist for him, and refused to conduct bilateral negotiations with him.

And the rejection of diplomacy in this case looks extremely ominous. After all, in recent years, Ankara has been consistently strengthening its army, conducting military operations against Kurdish formations in Iraq and Syria. Since 2017, Ankara has carried out three military operations in northern Syria: Euphrates Shield, Olive Branch, and Spring of Peace. And at the end of May 2022, Erdogan announced the fourth.

A new phase of the formation (in Syria) of a "security zone" 30 km inland from the border with Turkey begins. We are clearing Tall Rifat and Manbij from terrorists

- the Turkish president said on June 1, noting that subsequently other areas bordering Turkey would be cleared of militants.

This is all to the fact that the Turkish army is quite combat-ready and has real experience in conducting military operations. Unlike the Greek, which has been engaged in exercises.

A reasonable question arises: what is Athens counting on? To the aid of Washington, of course. It is no coincidence that in mid-May 2022, Greece and the United States signed a new security cooperation agreement, according to which the number of American military bases in Greece will double from four to eight. And the stay of American soldiers on Greek territory will last at least five years, after which, according to the signed documents, it should become indefinite. On paper, everything looks logical, if you do not take into account the fact that in their hopes for the US and NATO, the Greeks can be severely deceived.

NATO will not save Athens from Turkish ambitions, primarily because Turkey is a much more valuable member of the alliance than Greece. America, as the most aggressive and often warring country on the planet, is always prone to extreme pragmatism in such matters. And, with a high degree of probability, in the event of a war between Turkey and Greece, he will try to stay on the sidelines, masking his own political impotence with the parties' calls for dialogue. Yes, there will be American bases on Greek territory, but they are unlikely to fight the Turkish army. Most likely, they will allow the Greeks to independently defend what they consider their shelf. And then Athens will desperately cry for help to all countries. It is likely that to the Russian Federation. After all, it was Russia that once won independence from Turkey for Greece.

And what can I say ... Purely humanly, I would like Russia to sell Turkey just the maximum possible number of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM). And not only them - any military-technical requests of the Turkish side that do not threaten the state interests of the Russian Federation must be satisfied. Why? Because today the Greek leadership wants to kill Russian soldiers, supplying the Kyiv regime with weapons. Yes, imitating Washington and Brussels, Athens does it indirectly, using a “condom” in the person of Ukrainian nationalists, but this will not save them from infection with the war virus. Political prostitution, like ordinary prostitution, is fraught with infectious diseases. But, having followed the lead of the West and spitting on the special relationship with Russia associated with a common history and religion, Greece apparently forgot that she herself is in an extremely vulnerable position.

Greece, as well as other European countries, cannot be forgiven for anything. Neither the introduction of anti-Russian sanctions, nor the support of the Nazi Kyiv regime, nor the supply of weapons to kill our soldiers. Sooner or later, but you have to pay for everything. And the political tensions around the Mediterranean are now such that Greece will be one of the first to be in a difficult position. Well, let's see how her rhetoric towards Russia will change when Athens realizes that the West will not protect them. We will observe and think about what else and to whom to supply in order to inflict damage on the Greek army, just as Greece contributed to the death of the Russians by sending weapons to Kyiv. An eye for an eye, one of the main biblical principles, has not yet been canceled. Orthodox Greeks should remember this.
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  1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 8 June 2022 18: 22
    -26
    Sooner or later, but you have to pay for everything.

    It is not bad for the Russians to remember this either.
    1. Valera75 Offline Valera75
      Valera75 (Valery) 8 June 2022 19: 02
      +15
      Well, explain "dear" for what Russia should sooner or later pay?
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 8 June 2022 19: 58
        -22
        Don't you guess? In the light of recent legislative initiatives, it is difficult for me to say something intelligible without falling under the provisions of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The Russians will pay, but as we know

        1. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
          Piramidon (Stepan) 9 June 2022 09: 36
          +8
          Quote: Oleg Rambover
          Can't you guess?

          The answer of an ordinary Internet troll is "I crowed from the bulldozer, but you can guess."
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 9 June 2022 09: 44
            -21
            Well let's say so for Great Russian chauvinism and imperialism.
            1. isofat Offline isofat
              isofat (isofat) 9 June 2022 10: 19
              +5
              It is not good. Calm down announced.
            2. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
              Piramidon (Stepan) 9 June 2022 16: 13
              +5
              I heard something similar from the bawlers on Bolotnaya and from the snot-bulls at Lyokhin's gatherings. Which ones will you be? From whose words do you sing songs?
              1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 9 June 2022 16: 34
                -11
                I am on my own. Do you not notice this Great Russian chauvinism and imperialism? Read the comments and articles on this site. Do you consider Ukrainians equal to you? Do you dream of reviving the USSR? Or do you think that Ukrainians can decide their own fate?
                1. isofat Offline isofat
                  isofat (isofat) 9 June 2022 17: 34
                  +4
                  Oleg RamboverDon't confuse people's heads. Ukrainians today decide their own fate.
                  They decide their fate by the means that are available to them.

                  After the Maidan and the subsequent coup, attempts to seat the parties to the conflict at the negotiating table did not stop. The side that staged the coup is used to solving everything by force. We are seeing the result of this today.

                  Ukrainians and I are one people, whoever thinks otherwise is not a Ukrainian. laughing
                2. zavhoz_rus Offline zavhoz_rus
                  zavhoz_rus (Alexey) 12 June 2022 07: 36
                  0
                  What are you clinging to with the revival of the USSR ?, no one in the Russian Federation is going to revive it, because they understand that the times and people are not the same, about the Ukrainians, they could live as they wanted, that is, in a geyropa, if it were not for the transmitted animal stupidity, the cruelty and theft of our gas in coupe with blackmailing the Russian Federation for 23 years of independence, personally I am for world peace, love is carrots, but when half the inhabitants of a neighboring country suddenly go crazy (or simply lose their shores from greed for a pack of dollars and euros) and declare my country my people an enemy and start on their territory, which they received from the Russian tsars-general secretaries, terror against my language and my compatriots, then anyone will become a chauvinist.
                  ps
                  Remind me what Russia has been doing since 2014?, trying to peacefully resolve the conflict, how did the United States answer us, whose hand is up to the very tonsils in independent Ukraine since 91?
            3. Horon Offline Horon
              Horon (Kharon Erebovich) 9 June 2022 16: 49
              0
              For "Great Russian chauvinism" we are sitting in prisons more than for the murder of Russians on ethnic grounds, are you sure from this universe?
              The United States is building its new empire quite well and preaching imperialism in the form of its own exclusivity - where are the groans and cries of the liberal public and the regiments of volunteer fighters against imperialism? And, for sure, you are a warrior of the imperial ambitions of the United States, you yourself consider yourself exceptional and only your worldview should rule the world. fool
              1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 10 June 2022 13: 03
                -3
                Quote: Horon
                For "Great Russian chauvinism" we are sitting in prisons more than for the murder of Russians on ethnic grounds, are you sure from this universe?

                You are confusing chauvinism with far-right nationalism.

                Quote: Horon
                The United States is building its new empire quite well and preaching imperialism in the form of its own exclusivity - where are the groans and cries of the liberal public and the regiments of volunteer fighters against imperialism?

                Why do people like you always nod at the USA? Do you want to make the USA out of the Russian Federation? And what are the colonial acquisitions of the United States over the past hundred years? If this is an empire, then this is precisely the new empire, in which Hollywood means much more than all the AUGs combined. In any case, this is the problem of the Americans.

                Quote: Horon
                And, for sure, you are a warrior of the imperial ambitions of the United States, you yourself consider yourself exceptional and only your worldview should rule the world.

                Do you understand what you wrote? Some nonsense.
            4. weddu Offline weddu
              weddu (Kolya) 11 June 2022 11: 30
              +1
              Chauvinism - the ideology of national superiority, which aims to justify the right to discrimination, exploitation and oppression of other peoples

              So, on the contrary, throughout history, Russians have always been exploited, infringed and oppressed by all and sundry, even in the USSR, Russians have never been a "titular" nation, even in Russia and the RSFSR.
              Because Russia is big because it gives to everyone and everyone has it. The more shitty the people, the smaller the country, and some peoples still don’t have their own country, and other peoples created countries for other peoples, Greece, Israel, Armenia, etc. from among them...
              1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 11 June 2022 15: 24
                -1
                Quote: weddu
                other peoples of the country were created by other peoples, Greece, Israel, Armenia.etc. from among them...

                And do you think these countries should now? Do you remember your debts?
                1. weddu Offline weddu
                  weddu (Kolya) 11 June 2022 22: 16
                  0
                  Forgivable, I am not Russian and none of my ancestors was of another nation. Meanwhile, in my national republic, even in Soviet times, local natives had advantages, for example, when entering universities, since the passing score was lower ...
                2. weddu Offline weddu
                  weddu (Kolya) 11 June 2022 22: 23
                  0
                  Take a look at the current "elites", are there many Russians among them? How many among the richest will be Russians, if you scrape? How many Russians do you see, let's say, on television, among the same "experts" on all kinds of talk shows?
              2. Granthes Offline Granthes
                Granthes (George Anthel) 11 June 2022 19: 06
                0
                When the Greeks created the alphabet for you, you still ate bark with acorns, the creators ... laughing
                1. Aleksandr3779 Offline Aleksandr3779
                  Aleksandr3779 12 June 2022 13: 30
                  0
                  Funny. Not Greeks, but Romans. Romans, creators of the Second Rome. But he is destroyed. Remind me where the Third Rome is?
                  1. Granthes Offline Granthes
                    Granthes (George Anthel) 12 June 2022 23: 04
                    0
                    laughing Like not Ivan but Vanya, there is no third Rome and you have nothing to do with Rome or Byzantium, except that Sophia was Greek, the Greeks baptized you and the alphabet in which you write now too, and they also took the coat of arms, all the saints and. etc.
                    1. Aleksandr3779 Offline Aleksandr3779
                      Aleksandr3779 13 June 2022 17: 38
                      0
                      Someone's greasy stigma imagines himself a historian and theologian?
                      For several centuries, Russia was the only sovereign Orthodox state in the world, thanks to which the spiritual heritage of Byzantium, the Orthodox Roman Empire, has come down to our days.
                      And once again for the offended - Russia officially received the alphabet not from the Greeks, but from the Romans, Romans.
      2. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 8 June 2022 22: 23
        +4
        "Dear" pretends to be in danger around him. Apparently this prevents him from answering clearly. laughing
      3. JD1979 Offline JD1979
        JD1979 (Dmitriy) 10 June 2022 08: 04
        0
        For his ostrich policy, for what else)) a head in the sand does not contribute to solving problems, it only provides a pleasant feeling of comfort of an imaginary absence of problems))) but as usual, the priest is responsible for everything)) well, or holders of a Russian passport of the lower class category.
    2. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
      goncharov.62 (Andrei) 8 June 2022 19: 59
      +10
      We are not vindictive people. We just have a good memory. True, the leader has become somewhat hmm ... soft. But it's temporary, isn't it? I would have pulled down three skins from you and sprinkled with salt. Large, sea.
      1. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
        Grei grin (Gray Grin) 8 June 2022 22: 34
        +1
        We would do all this with them, we, the Russian people, but so far they are not interested in our opinion, like the opinion of ordinary Greeks, and we are paying with our own skin!
      2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 9 June 2022 01: 30
        -9
        Quote: goncharov.62
        True, the leader has become somewhat hmm ... soft.

        Yes Yes. Previously, he dreamed of getting into NATO and called himself a liberal, but now it’s quite the opposite. As there

        History repeats itself twice: the first time in the form of tragedy, the second in the form of farce.

        Now the second.

        Quote: goncharov.62
        But it's temporary, isn't it?

        Nothing is eternal under the Moon. Next on the plan Khrushchev, his second repetition.

        Quote: goncharov.62
        I would have pulled down three skins from you and sprinkled with salt. Large, sea.

        By the way, yes, the Russian Black Hundreds is quite a reason for reckoning.
      3. Piramidon Offline Piramidon
        Piramidon (Stepan) 9 June 2022 09: 38
        +2
        Quote: goncharov.62
        We are not vindictive people. We just have a good memory.

        Well, evil, when they get it and make them angry.
    3. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
      Grei grin (Gray Grin) 8 June 2022 22: 31
      +2
      This is exactly the modern government of Russia in the first place! But as practice shows, those who supply weapons to kill Russian soldiers to Ukraine, as before, remain colleagues and partners, and this is not politics, this is a betrayal!
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 8 June 2022 23: 30
        -9
        Quote from Grey Grin
        This is exactly the modern government of Russia in the first place!

        I'm not sure about power. Probably not. But the Russians definitely.
    4. lomograph Offline lomograph
      lomograph (Igor) 9 June 2022 09: 43
      0
      And we remember. And what we paid - we will not forget either.
      This is to be trustworthy.
    5. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 9 June 2022 11: 52
      -1
      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      Sooner or later, but you have to pay for everything.

      It is not bad for the Russians to remember this either.

      I agree. If the USSR had not supplied weapons to the NATO country, then there would not have been today's problem. And the author of the article should have thought that the supply of weapons to an aggressive neighbor could end with a "knife in the back."
    6. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 9 June 2022 14: 25
      -2
      The same thing could happen to Greece as it happened to Armenia recently, when it was defeated by the Azerbaijanis. And the largest American embassy and military biolaboratories of the Pentagon did not help Armenia. Russia helped not to go negative at all. But will Russia interfere in Greek affairs? And the Greek patriarch, who is in Istanbul, does not wish Russia well.
      1. Alex russia Offline Alex russia
        Alex russia (Georges Miloslavsky) 10 June 2022 10: 21
        0
        Well, Greece is far from Armenia, it is a member of NATO and the European Union, and secondly, the Greek armed forces are not so weak as Russian couch analysts would like to think, if this were the case, then the eternally barking Mr. Erdogan would have long ago fulfilled his long-standing dream - the re-creation of the Ottoman Empire, primarily at the expense of Greece, but he understands perfectly well that this will not be a walk in Syria or Iraq, so things are not going further than barking and saber-rattling
    7. Adler77 Offline Adler77
      Adler77 (Denis) 9 June 2022 19: 34
      +1
      No, on the contrary, Ukraine is now paying the bills. For everything she did against Russia.
      And the account is not closed yet.
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 9 June 2022 19: 42
        -4
        Here, after all, how Ukrainians pay today, tomorrow Russians will start (or have already started).
        1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
          Adler77 (Denis) 9 June 2022 19: 44
          0
          That is life. The question is who will profit.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 9 June 2022 21: 32
            -4
            Everything is simple here. Nobody has a profile. Of course, to whom SVO, to whom the mother is related. But these are separate, not globally numerous groups of people. Globally, neither Russians nor Ukrainians will receive a "profit", one loss. The military of NATO and the military-industrial complex will clearly receive a profit, but this is also to the detriment of their citizens.
    8. Denis Chernov Offline Denis Chernov
      Denis Chernov (Denis) 11 June 2022 15: 14
      0
      We are already paying for the whole world for 1000 years.
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 11 June 2022 15: 25
        0
        Who do we pay?
    9. Aksel2 Online Aksel2
      Aksel2 (Alexander Z.) 12 June 2022 08: 21
      +1
      We paid for everything in advance. It's time to take back what wasn't delivered.
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 12 June 2022 08: 37
        -1
        It only seems so to you.
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 12 June 2022 15: 32
          0
          Oleg Rambover, when I look at your avatar, it also seems to me that you are zero without a wand. laughing
          I would like to hear from you a more meaningful answer. Why are you talking nonsense?
  2. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 8 June 2022 19: 29
    +4
    Let us neutrally observe how misfortunes will fall on these ungrateful Greeks. Let us respond to the activity of these creatures in helping our enemies with passivity. In Crete, and in the rest of the Mediterranean. In troubles, catastrophes and wars.
    1. Granthes Offline Granthes
      Granthes (George Anthel) 9 June 2022 12: 08
      0
      Remembering the events of a hundred years ago, the Greeks do not doubt this, history repeats itself. And about the creatures, they reciprocate you.
  3. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 8 June 2022 19: 31
    +5
    Quote: Valera75
    Well, explain "dear" for what Russia should sooner or later pay?

    You didn't understand the comment. Russia must remember who owes her. And do not continue good relations for meanness.
  4. Valery Bor Offline Valery Bor
    Valery Bor (Valery) 8 June 2022 19: 44
    +2
    Quote: Valera75
    Well, explain "dear" for what Russia should sooner or later pay?

    They haven’t brought him the State Department manual yet ...
  5. maiman61 Offline maiman61
    maiman61 (Yuri) 8 June 2022 20: 01
    0
    Greece has ALWAYS been a Russophobic state! I'll be just delighted if the Turks pile on the Greeks for the most I can not!
    1. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
      Grei grin (Gray Grin) 8 June 2022 22: 36
      0
      it would be nice to kick their ass! Well, yes, the Turks themselves will deal with them since the history of fools does not teach anything!
  6. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 8 June 2022 21: 25
    +2
    The Turks are more reliable for Russia than the Greeks, although they seem to be "co-religionists"
    1. Granthes Offline Granthes
      Granthes (George Anthel) 9 June 2022 12: 17
      +2
      The Turks did not send bayraktars to Ukraine, rockets, did not shoot down helicopters, did not kill pilots, the ambassador, did not help the Basmachi kill Russians in Syria, bomb bases and shout that it was accidental, this was not all there and the Turks are your reliable brothers laughing
      1. Denis Chernov Offline Denis Chernov
        Denis Chernov (Denis) 11 June 2022 15: 16
        -1
        It's wonderful if our Turkish brothers clash with the Greek. Sell ​​weapons to both.
  7. Antor Offline Antor
    Antor 8 June 2022 21: 37
    +4
    Somehow they don’t remember how the Greek clergy behaved vilely by not condemning the split in the extradition of Thomas by Bartholomew for Ukraine, and what can we say about the secular Anti-Russian, in fact, Greek power !!? The history of Greece's past has been completely forgotten, pro-Western, as it turns out, rabid Russophobes came to power, who did not study what Greece owes to Russia, they did not even read it and they do not care about their people, who, as their polls show, remember this story and therefore against the supply of arms to Ukrobanderites!!? One thing is sad - our country has repeatedly stepped on and will step on the same rake saving countries and peoples who, after a while, without hesitation and without hesitation, stick a knife in the back into Russia ...... and this is mostly unpunished. Gain, profit, grabbing and greed - what other motives to designate when we supply our natural resources on the principle of "whatever you want", send the best warriors to die in a foreign land for the interests of others .... etc. to those who hate us and ready to do everything so that we are not there And Greece is not alone, take our "brothers", damn them, Bulgarians, where else have they not betrayed us since the times of Shipka and Plevna .... and for what they poured, for the sake of what independence and for whom in Bulgaria is Russian blood ..!!
    1. Granthes Offline Granthes
      Granthes (George Anthel) 9 June 2022 12: 28
      -3
      And what does Greece owe to Russia?
  8. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 8 June 2022 22: 25
    -4
    Reminds me of the division of the skin of an unkilled bear ....
  9. HattinGokbori87 Offline HattinGokbori87
    HattinGokbori87 8 June 2022 23: 21
    -5
    Western European intervention (and Russia's) helped Greece become independent that's truth. Ottomans were the common enemy so European powers helped it's huge population of Christians and some Arab tribes to get out of the empire with most of it's land. They did it to weaken and finish off their enemy, that doesn't mean that Germans/France loved Greeks or Russians loved Ukrainians or India loves Bangladeshis (quite the opposites). These bigger powers like those small nations only as long as they remain obedient. If they start following their own independent paths these powers act as their worst enemies.
    This article is a masterpiece of work when it comes to fear-mongering propaganda. But I don't think Greeks will be afraid. Turkey has always been stronger than Greece or Bulgaria or Romania, but their days of conquering Europe has been over for several centuries. Though they are the member of the same alliance, all the other members (including USA) always supported Greece when it confronts Turkey and all the others continue to do so till this date. Turkey and Greece are querrling recently because Turkey doesn't have any mineral and it wants Greece to give a little taste of the gas Greece have in Turkey's EEZ, at one point or another Greece will give them a taste and they will be silent. Turkey knows they can't force/ Greece/NATO to do so unless they are willing. So I don't think Greece has/ever had any need to become a puppet state of sanction-ridden Russian banana republic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic
    1. Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
      Ingvar7 (Ingvar Miller) 9 June 2022 11: 01
      0
      Time will tell. It won't fix though...
  10. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 9 June 2022 00: 23
    0
    Greece is bankrupt, sitting on EU subsidy loans, consider a colony, like the entire Baltic zoo, of course, the slaves of the West cannot be forgiven, but the Greeks are not economically dependent on the Russian Federation, so all that remains is to strike with Caliber
  11. anclevalico Offline anclevalico
    anclevalico (Victor) 9 June 2022 07: 43
    0
    Where do Greeks live? 4 bases for such a country is a huge territory. :) And there will be 8.
  12. jekasimf Offline jekasimf
    jekasimf (jekasimf) 9 June 2022 08: 30
    -5
    Strange logic. We are selling the S-400 to the main Greek enemy, Turkey, with which Greece is at war, and "this is right." Greece is selling Kalashnikov assault rifles to our main enemy, and "this is NOT right." You guys "or put on your underpants, or remove the cross.

    Greek Defense Minister Evangelos Apostolakis said that Athens is concerned about Turkey's decision to purchase S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) from Russia, the purchase will lead to a reconfiguration of the republic's weapons systems.
    -and we don't give a shit about it, so why should Greece be interested in our Wishlist?
    1. Granthes Offline Granthes
      Granthes (George Anthel) 9 June 2022 12: 56
      -3
      Good point, but the story with the C400 turned out to be successful for the Greeks, since the F35 will no longer fly over their heads, and the fact that sanctions were imposed on the Turks on Western technology and weapons, the campaign and control of the C400 is not in the brains of the Turks, I think that in the end they will give them to the states to mend relations and lift the embargo.
    2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 9 June 2022 14: 29
      +2
      A little earlier, the Greeks bought the S-300 from Russia.
    3. ocean969 Online ocean969
      ocean969 (Leonid) 9 June 2022 14: 39
      0
      I explain to the lover of panties and a cross: the S-400 is a defensive system, and infantry fighting vehicles and tanks with millions of rounds are already offensive weapons.
      1. Granthes Offline Granthes
        Granthes (George Anthel) 9 June 2022 18: 57
        0
        Will defend the Greek sky over the Greek islands so that the Greeks do not fly there, right? laughing
    4. Horon Offline Horon
      Horon (Kharon Erebovich) 9 June 2022 16: 34
      -2
      Turkey is already fighting with Greece? Did I miss something? Are Turks already killing Greeks? Well, in general, decide for yourself with a cross and cowards! wassat
  13. Granthes Offline Granthes
    Granthes (George Anthel) 9 June 2022 09: 09
    -5
    Russia as a revivalist of Greek statehood

    The promises of autonomy for Greece by the Ottomans does not in any way mean that Russia is the revivalist of Greek statehood and gave Greece sovereignty, and after the Greek rebels helped the Orlovskys with provisions for the Russian squadron, and as soon as the Russians sailed away, taking with them the hope of liberation, the Turks massacred those who helped them and many more there, after which the main uprising began. The Russian statesman, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Empire Count Ivan Antonovich Kapodistrias was a Greek by nationality, who twice asked for help from the king, but he was refused, since at that time it was not in the interests of Russia, Kapodistrias resigned and went to Greece to help its people on the spot.
  14. Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
    Ingvar7 (Ingvar Miller) 9 June 2022 10: 47
    0
    Dreaming is not harmful ... By the way, the biblical law "an eye for an eye" does not mean revenge at all, the Christian Almighty did not call for revenge. Learn the materiel...
  15. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 June 2022 14: 46
    +1
    Quote from: Granthes
    Remembering the events of a hundred years ago, the Greeks do not doubt this, history repeats itself. And about the creatures, they reciprocate you.

    Are we applying sanctions to the unfortunate? Go home to your age.
  16. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 June 2022 14: 49
    +1
    Quote: jekasimf
    Strange logic. We are selling the S-400 to the main Greek enemy, Turkey, with which Greece is at war, and "this is right." Greece is selling Kalashnikov assault rifles to our main enemy, and "this is NOT right." You guys "or put on your underpants, or remove the cross.

    Greek Defense Minister Evangelos Apostolakis said that Athens is concerned about Turkey's decision to purchase S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) from Russia, the purchase will lead to a reconfiguration of the republic's weapons systems.
    -and we don't give a shit about it, so why should Greece be interested in our Wishlist?

    Well, well, tell me how it is that the members of one military alliance - NATO are at war? Are you completely crazy, Athenian? A merchant and a miser, equal to his neighbor, a Turk?
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    1. Granthes Offline Granthes
      Granthes (George Anthel) 9 June 2022 19: 07
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      Type in a search engine, Lenin saved Kemal's Turkey, helping him with weapons, gold, military advisers, bread that he himself could not eat.
  18. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 9 June 2022 15: 18
    0
    American sixes.
  19. Horon Offline Horon
    Horon (Kharon Erebovich) 9 June 2022 16: 32
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    And if the Greeks who lived two hundred years ago knew what their descendants would do in relation to the liberating country - Russia, they would be horrified.

    They would not be horrified, they would simply continue to utter empty oaths and smile hypocritically.
    What is given quickly becomes one's own and is not associated with the giver.
  20. ksa Offline ksa
    ksa 9 June 2022 17: 37
    +1
    The Russian Foreign Ministry should immediately declare: "In connection with the supply of Greece's "incredible amount" of weapons to Ukraine, the Russian Foreign Ministry is authorized to declare that Russia is withdrawing itself from existing and possible future friction between Turkey and Greece."
  21. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 June 2022 21: 30
    +2
    Quote from: Granthes
    Type in a search engine, Lenin saved Kemal's Turkey, helping him with weapons, gold, military advisers, bread that he himself could not eat.

    Did the Turkish Sultanate suit you better? The Turks then fought with our worst enemy, Great Britain. So, deal with the Turks yourself, and we'll see. The Turks are not our allies. We beat them in 9 wars. Successfully. Haven't met you yet. Beware and don't be shy.
    1. Granthes Offline Granthes
      Granthes (George Anthel) 9 June 2022 22: 15
      0
      What other sultan?
  22. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 9 June 2022 22: 27
    0
    At the same time, Greek Defense Minister Nikos Panagiotopoulos

    Capitally his surname sounds in the Moldavian language.
  23. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 June 2022 22: 30
    +1
    Quote from: Granthes
    What other sultan?

    Go cut down your olive trees. Follow the instructions of the godfather from Brussels. Get 780 euros for each and sit on your ass, wait for help by the sea.
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  24. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 June 2022 23: 23
    +1
    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    I am on my own. Do you not notice this Great Russian chauvinism and imperialism? Read the comments and articles on this site. Do you consider Ukrainians equal to you? Do you dream of reviving the USSR? Or do you think that Ukrainians can decide their own fate?

    The task was set to destroy the Nazi regime in Ukraine. Or two concepts - tasks - denazification and demilitarization without chewing are not clear? Whoever wishes to become part of Russia, you are welcome. Regions, farms or individually. In place of the former ukrofascist non-country there will be a region FRIENDLY to Russia, a territory whose name will be chosen by the population. Leading referendums, elections and the writing of the Constitution.
  25. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 June 2022 23: 29
    -1
    Quote: Colonel Kudasov
    The Turks are more reliable for Russia than the Greeks, although they seem to be "co-religionists"

    I agree. The Turks are reliable enemies, and you can always expect tricks from them. Occasionally, in order to break up NATO, we give the Turks material that they will use as a tool to undermine NATO, but this cannot be considered an allied action. The Greeks are simply, with whom it is impossible to negotiate, be friends, or be at enmity.
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  27. eskkimo Offline eskkimo
    eskkimo (eskkimo) 10 June 2022 08: 25
    +1
    You, the author, says:

    We will observe and think about what else and to whom to supply in order to inflict damage on the Greek army...

    But, haven't your Lenin done this before in Asia Minor? And, your czars, the same with Macedonia? BOTH, without any provocations from the country! This is not to justify the acts of the government, now. But, once such matters are raised Russia will lose this 66%, TOO
  28. gizmapps. Offline gizmapps.
    gizmapps. (Gizmapps.) 10 June 2022 10: 31
    +1
    In Greece, a larger percentage of the population is actively pro-Russian and for many other reasons.
  29. Alex russia Offline Alex russia
    Alex russia (Georges Miloslavsky) 10 June 2022 10: 37
    -2
    The military campaign in the Ukrainian province conducted by the "great" Russian Generalissimo V.V. It has been going on for more than three months without much success, as we can see. And why discuss and blame the Greeks and, in general, all gay Europeans for all earthly sins, maybe you first need to look at yourself and generally ask yourself, what is all this for???!! How did it happen that the whole world is against Russia, maybe the problem is all the same in us???
  30. Redortho Offline Redortho
    Redortho 10 June 2022 11: 07
    +3
    There are no friendships between states, only interests at a given time. Alliances change based on the interests of the moment and medium-term planning. Religion has no political power worldwide. I believe that most Greeks are not Russophobes, maybe the opposite, but in a democratic state only the Government can make such decisions. If there is disagreement, it is expressed in the elections. With love from Greece.
    1. Granthes Offline Granthes
      Granthes (George Anthel) 10 June 2022 14: 01
      +1
      Αυτοί οι ηλίθιοι αυτό δεν το καταλαβαίνουν.
  31. guest Offline guest
    guest 10 June 2022 14: 01
    +2
    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    And what are the colonial acquisitions of the United States over the past hundred years?

    Yes, all of Europe them. All countries that have imposed sanctions against Russia are American colonies.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 10 June 2022 23: 50
      -4
      This is complete nonsense.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 11 June 2022 00: 38
        +1
        Quote: Oleg Rambover
        This is complete nonsense.

        Oleg Rambover, No. I understand that we are talking about the modern colonial system, which was given the name - neo-colonialism. smile
  32. aristotelis Offline aristotelis
    aristotelis 11 June 2022 03: 21
    +1
    But what about the Turkish Bayraktar drones that killed the Russians? why don't you mention it? Don't pretend to be our best friend, you helped Turkey Kemal in the 1920s. And don't forget the S400s you gave to Turkey, which can kill the Greeks at any time. I love Russia very much and am against the decisions of our government, but we can't do anything about it, we are controlled by CIA agents.
  33. ΚX Offline ΚX
    ΚX (ΚX) 11 June 2022 20: 23
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    .
    Δεν θα αναφερθώ στα ανιστόρητα για το κατά πόσο η Ρωσία βοήθησε στην απελευθέρωση της Ελλ. Απλά θα σας παραπέμψω στα βιβλία της ιστορίας (όχι βέβαια τα ρωσικά).
    Θα σταθώ μόνο στα σύγχρονα γεγονότα. Εν ολίγοις μας λέτε ότι σε περίπτωση πολέμου Ελλάδας Τουρκίας η Ρωσία θα πρέπει να βοηθήσει την Τουρκία, επειδή η Ελλάδα στέλνει όπλα στους Ουκρανούς όπου αυτά σκοτώνουν Ρώσους.
    Μόνο που αγνοήσατε ότι η Ελλάδα ζεί με την απειλή πολέμου από την Τουρκία εδ·καια πολά Σε αυτά τα χρόνια προμηθεύσατε με όπλα την Τουρκία. Αν τ τουρκία είχε κάνει πόλεμο με τ την ελ> πριν πόλεμο στην ουκρανία, τα ρωσικά opinions θαυτά π α λών θ έ λλ Θέλετε να μεχάσουμε ως έλληνες ότι η ηα ενίσχυσχυσχ τον αιώνιο τχθρό της ελλάδας (τουρκία) με με οπλισμό; Μάλιστα το έκανε ενώ η Τουρκία ήδη είχε καταρρίψει ένα ρωσικό αεροπλάνο. Το ξεχάσατε όμως. Δεν εκδικηθήκατε. ? Άρα για ποιον Χριστιανισμό μιλάτε;
    Τέλος ξεχνάτε κάτι βασικό.
    Η ελληνική κυβέρνηση έστειλε οπλισμό σε μια χώρα που αμύνεται και υπερασπίζεται το έδα φο. Δηλαδή είναι αμυνόμενη.
    Το ίδιο θα συμβεί και σε πιθανό πόλεμο Ελλάδας Τουρκίας. Τουρκία έχει τάσεις επεκτατισμού όπως η Ρωσία του Πούτιν.
    Αντιθέτως η ελλάδα σέβεται τα σύνορα των κρατών και δηλώνει ότι Διεκδικεί μεί μεί σα εδάφη μόνο μπίζεται ταικά δικάτη.
    Αν θέλετε να μιλήσουμε για ιστορία, τότε δικαιωματικά η ε> θα έα να είναι η πώώτη που θρεπεπεπεαι up Τα εδάφη του Μέγα Αλέξανδρου αλλά και της βυζαντινής αυτοκρατορίας.
    Δεν το κάνει όμως.
    Συντάσσεται με το Διεθνές Δίκαιο και την εδαφική ακεραιότητα των κρατών.
    Λέξεις και αρχές άγνωστες σε καθεστώτα όπως του Πούτιν και του Ερντογάν.
    Σας ευχαριστώ για την φιλοξενία!
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 11 June 2022 20: 47
      0
      Who told you that at that time we were supplying weapons to Turkey, a NATO member? I will not respond to your insults. Although you write in Greek, out of habit you do not indicate your place of residence. You are not a proud Greek, as you tell us in your comment. laughing yes
  34. gus781 Offline gus781
    gus781 (gus) 11 June 2022 23: 46
    0
    Hello from Greece.66% of our people thinks was a mistake sending guns to Ukraine not because we re russian friendly but because we are christians.Also for the same reason killing people in Ukraine is a mistake.Personally i dont care if i wont be forgiven (as the article says) or for the eye to eye solution.I only care only if im more wrong than you are.
  35. ᛟᛒᛟᛞᚱᛁᛏ ᚹᛖᚾᛞ (Sibiryak Pribaikalsky) 12 June 2022 10: 53
    +1
    The same applies to Bulgaria, in which, according to various sources, from one million to one and a half million Turks live. In some parts of Bulgaria, Turks and Gypsies make up the vast majority. Of course, the Bulgarian police and detachments of volunteers fought off illegal migrants, but to fight off the multi-million Turkish army? And most importantly, as in the case of Hellas, relying on the help of Western countries, Bulgaria itself will voluntarily give up what the Turks deem it necessary to take from them, having fully recouped both Lovcha and Plevna, and for all the victories of the Russian army during the penultimate Russian- Turkish war.