Why we should not be afraid of deliveries to Ukraine of American MLRS HIMARS


В past In the text, I promised to tell how we should respond to the American supply of long-range MLRS systems to the Kyiv regime. I'm keeping my promise. Believe me, with the US MLRS, not everything is so terrible. Just don't panic. They have nothing against Kostya Saprykin. We have something more terrible, and this is not at all tactical nuclear weapons and not strategic nuclear weapons, as some here have already gathered to use. We are waiting for the supply of NATO systems, we don’t care where to dispose of them, even in the 404th, even in Romania (18 HIMARS have been hanging around there since last year), no one else in Europe has them.


We are not afraid of the Gray Wolf!


Recently, the broad Russian philistine near-military public was alarmed when they learned that the United States was raising the stakes in our eternal confrontation, starting deliveries to Ukraine of the M142 HIMARS MLRS with the ability to hit targets at distances of up to 300 km. And although Grandpa Joe wrote a whole article in The New York Times to explain this, where he swears by his mother that he forbade his Ukrainian wards to shoot from it in Russia, and he only gives missiles to her GMLRS M30 with a range of up to 70 km, but faith he does not, because we all know well how his wards carry out his orders. And it makes no difference to us whether they will shoot at Belgorod with Bryansk or at Kherson with Donetsk, there is no difference. Both those and those are our territories, just some are recognized, while others are not yet recognized (but this is a matter of time, and we are working on it). From a formal point of view, we don’t even have anything to present to our non-brothers - there is a war going on, even though we call it NWO (I explained why this is so in detail in previous read the text, it will remove unnecessary questions), if we shell their territory, then why don’t they have the right to shell ours? This is war, and its laws are the same for both sides of the conflict. But we discussed the laws of war in last once, and today we will think about what to do and how to respond to the new demarche of our "partners".

The fact that they are deliberately raising the stakes, driving us into a corner, is understandable. And they will be able to keep us in limbo in the face of the threat of supplying their wards with even more long-range ammunition for this damned complex for a long time to come. For those who don't know, I'll explain. GMLRS M30, which Grandpa Joe completes his MLRS, is a guided 240-mm rocket with a cluster warhead, equipped with an inertial guidance system with the possibility of GPS-guidance in the final section of the route, with a firing range of up to 70 km. We have similar MLRS systems. This is the 9K57 "Hurricane" with a caliber of 220 mm and a maximum range of 35,8 km (we lose to the Americans in range, but we win in the number of missiles, we have 16 missiles in a salvo against 6 of our enemies). We also have a more powerful MLRS - this is the 9K58 Smerch with a caliber of 300 mm and a maximum range of 120 km, carrying 12 missiles in one salvo. Ukrainians also have similar (still Soviet) Smerchs, and our air defense systems regularly intercept them. The only drawback is that they do not have GPS guidance. But this option is equipped with our latest complexes MLRS 9K515 "Tornado-S", which is a deep modernization of the MLRS 9K58 "Smerch". The new system includes a modernized combat vehicle equipped with ASUNO and new 300 mm unguided rockets with a maximum range of up to 120 km, as well as adjustable a 9M542 rocket projectile with a detachable high-explosive fragmentation or cluster warhead and a combat range of up to 120 km (the developers of the Tula JSC NPO Splav are now working on a possible increase in the range to 200 km).

The abbreviation ASUNO means an automatic fire control and guidance system with its own GLONASS navigator in the launcher and a new computerized ballistic computer, which allows MLRS to fire at targets received through ESU TK in automatic mode, without using ballistics calculation stations (such as, for example, "Kapustnik") and without manual pickup mechanics. In addition, the developers have created new guided missiles with navigation using the GLONASS system for using the MLRS in a scenario similar to the Iskander OTRK (the same 9M542).

As of 2022, the Russian Armed Forces have 20 Tornado-S vehicles, and they are already being used in Ukraine. So we have nothing to be afraid of M142, grandfather Joe can just as well scare a hedgehog with his bare ass, the result will be the same. We are waiting for them and will gladly meet them. In terms of range of destruction, our MLRS systems have an advantage over American ones (120 km versus 70 km), in terms of salvo power - also (12-16 missiles versus 6) and in terms of KVO (probable circular deflection of the missile), believe me, we won’t lose face. In addition, all this time we did not stand still. Our gunsmiths have developed new ammunition for the Smerch, which the non-brothers do not have. So, in 2004 it was adopted thermobaric ammunition 9M55S. This is a rocket with a thermobaric warhead (warhead) 9M216 "Excitement". The explosion of one such projectile creates a thermal field with a diameter of at least 25 m (depending on the terrain). The temperature of the field in this case exceeds 1000 °C, the time of the existence of the field is at least 1,4 seconds (take my word for it, it will not seem enough to anyone!). The ammunition is designed to destroy manpower, open and sheltered in open-type fortifications and objects of unarmored and lightly armored military equipment. Most effective in the steppe / desert, as well as cities located on non-hilly terrain. The maximum range is 70 km.

But there is something further. So, relatively recently, 9M528 and 9M534 ammunition with a range of 90 km appeared in our arsenal. The first is a high-explosive fragmentation warhead designed to destroy manpower, unarmored and lightly armored military equipment in their concentration areas, destroy command posts, communication centers and infrastructure facilities. But the second is a missile with a small-sized reconnaissance UAV of the Tipchak type, designed to conduct operational reconnaissance of targets for 20 minutes. In the target area, the UAV descends by parachute, while scanning the situation and transmitting information on the coordinates of reconnoitered targets to the control complex at a distance of up to 70 km for prompt decision-making on the destruction of the reconnoitered object.

About 9M542 corrected rockets with a detachable high-explosive fragmentation or cluster warhead with a firing range of up to 120 km, I have already said above. So we have everything for the counter-battery fight against the American MLRS, it remains only to wait for ourselves. Grandpa Joe promised from his generosity to unfasten the whole 4 HIMARS complexes to the Ukrainian wards (you won’t have to carry far, 18 complexes are available in Romania). Waiting, waiting, waiting...

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But how to react if he suddenly wants to equip them with ATACMS Block IA - tactical missiles with a cluster warhead for 300 combat elements, a range of up to 165 km, equipped with an inertial control system integrated with a GPS receiver, having a vertical end section of the trajectory and a firing range of up to 300 km, or their modification ATACMS Block IA Unitary with a high-explosive warhead weighing 500 pounds (226,8 kg), an inertial control system integrated with a GPS receiver and a firing range of up to 270 km? The M142 HIMARS can carry one such missile in a salvo, but given its range, one is enough for us to reach Rostov or Sevastopol, for example (I’m even silent here about Kursk, Belgorod, Donetsk and Lugansk).

Grandpa Joe wants to blackmail us by raising the stakes? Conventional weapons, why not?! And he swears by his mother that his wards will not shoot at Russia. And if they do? How do we know what's going on with these rocket-wielding monkeys? It is one thing when these complexes are located in Romania, it is quite another thing when they are on the border with the Russian Federation. We have a long land border with non-brothers, you can’t put S-300 air defense systems under every bush. Moreover, the S-300 is an object air defense system, and the M142 HIMARS is a highly mobile system, how do you order to chase it?

Here, some hotheads have already suggested, for the purpose of prevention, to hit them with our tactical nuclear weapons, and if it doesn’t reach, then the strategic nuclear weapons. No, not right away! Politely warn first that in the event of a strike on Russian-controlled territories, our response to facilities in Poland will follow within 24 hours. And even attach a list of these objects so that the Poles have time to evacuate the population. The move is good, of course. Instantly removes unnecessary arrogance ... from the Poles. I have only one question - what about the Americans? Well, Poland will become a few cities smaller, Grandpa Joe will survive this, but after that Putin will be attached to the pillory as a war criminal, and then no one will talk to him and to us. No, guys, nuclear weapons are disposable weapons, they are buried, not frightened. That is why it kept humanity from a new world war for 77 years. I see that someone is eager to test the theory of Albert Einstein, who said that "he does not know with what weapons the Third World War will be fought, but he knows for sure that the Fourth will be fought with stones and sticks."

Poland is a member of NATO, after our nuclear strike against it, Article 5 of the NATO Charter on Collective Security comes into force. If you want to test the strength of Grandpa Joe's eggs, then attach to your threats a list of American cities and the same ultimatum of retaliation in 24 hours in the event of shelling from American MLRS of territories controlled by the Russian Federation. That's when Grandpa Joe will scratch his bald head. You won't be able to sit on the island anymore. There are no fools to get involved in an exchange of nuclear strikes. And is Ukraine worth it? I hope everyone here understands that after the first nuclear strike there will be a response, after which the next war will be in 500 years and will be fought, at best, with a bow and arrows.

Therefore, what I propose. To avoid such situations, when Ukraine, being in its own right (after all, it considers Crimea to be Ukrainian), sighs in Sevastopol or any other Russian city from the HIMARS MLRS delivered by the good grandfather Joe (and it doesn’t matter what kind of ammunition - long-range ATACMS or short-range GMLRS action), to publicly notify the Alzheimer's client that if this happens, our response to US military and civilian infrastructure will irreversibly follow within the next 24 hours after that. And let Grandpa Joe think whether it's worth it or not. It is possible, as an indicative measure, to sink some of our floating scrap in neutral waters adjacent to the territorial waters of the United States by hitting our missiles. If tov. Eun managed to intimidate the Dauntless Cowboy Trump in a similar way, then I don’t think that Sleepy Joe’s balls will be stronger. At the same time, I know for sure that our missiles fly no worse than North Korean ones (and most importantly, faster and farther!).

I borrow everything. The report is finished. Your Mr X.
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  1. Taras Offline Taras
    Taras (Taras) 9 June 2022 18: 20
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    Because those who are on the couch have nothing to fear ..... and those who are in the trenches are already late, so live in peace))) in two cases everything is fine)))
  2. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 9 June 2022 19: 44
    +1
    publicly notify the Alzheimer's client that, if this happens, our response to US military and civilian infrastructure will irreversibly follow within the next 24 hours after that.

    If it were necessary for those who stand behind Putin and really govern Russia, the threat of strategic nuclear weapons to the Hegemon would have been realized as early as 2004, when the Baltic states should have been prevented from joining NATO. The risk of a nuclear war would be less than now, because the enemy would be stopped even at the distant approaches. We would have kept a buffer from neutral countries, we would not have lost many of our friends on the road of shameful retreat. Many steps that require lengthy preparation by the enemy have not yet been taken.
    The problem is that the country is run by oligarchic capital, which enriches itself in Russia according to the rules written by the Hegemon. As long as it is still possible to continue doing this, capital will not quarrel with the Hegemon. This is the reason for the continued "quiet" surrender of the remnants of the geopolitical space to the Hegemon, which is necessary for the more reliable and safe appropriation of Russia's natural resources.
    Probably, the oligarchic forces have resigned themselves to the fact that Russia will be lost by them, and are simply "getting" in it what is still possible. I think they need stability, but only for THIS time.
    Is Russia really not going to wake up?
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 9 June 2022 22: 07
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      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      The problem is,
      ...
      Hegemon, which is necessary for more reliable and safe appropriation of Russia's natural resources.

      The problem is that the Hegemon is not going to appropriate Russia's natural resources. It is not clear why he needs it.
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 9 June 2022 22: 17
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        The problem is that the Hegemon is not going to appropriate Russia's natural resources.

        Did the "hegemon" inspire you?
        Do not believe me, he is lying on a blue eye ..
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 9 June 2022 22: 40
          +1
          As long as the Hegemon has not seized the natural wealth of Nigeria and Venezuela, I will never believe that coveting the natural wealth of Russia. Buy cheaper. And from historical experience cheaper by orders of magnitude.
          1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
            Ulysses (Alexey) 11 June 2022 23: 28
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            It didn't work out and now it won't.

            PS Comparing the same Venezuela with Russia in terms of natural wealth is stupid.
            What is there besides oil?
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 12 June 2022 16: 28
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              Quote: Ulysses
              It didn't work out and now it won't.

              Why didn't it work? It even worked out. And now we didn't refuse to sell, but they refuse to buy. Feel the difference?

              Quote: Ulysses
              PS Comparing the same Venezuela with Russia in terms of natural wealth is stupid.
              What is there besides oil?

              There, apart from 1/5 of the world's oil reserves, there may be nothing, but what is so special that the Russian Federation exports besides oil and gas? 54% of exports are just them. What, then, will the Hegemon covet?
      2. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 June 2022 15: 28
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        Gidemon would not be a hegemon if he did not know how to achieve his own benefit.
        1. Eliminate an intermediary who, for his margin from the sale of resources, feeds the whole country and his voracious oligarchs
        2. Get out of the way completely and forever Russia, which every time is reborn right on his road
        3. Destroy the alternative cultural branch on which the self-consciousness of some of his ideological enemies rests
        He has reasons, but it's really difficult to understand you
        That's it Oleg
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 10 June 2022 16: 46
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          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          1. Eliminate an intermediary who, for his margin from the sale of resources, feeds the whole country and his voracious oligarchs

          This is nonsense. Why did they choose the Russian Federation as a target, and not, say, Venezuela, in which 20% of the world's proven oil reserves and no nuclear weapons. And the army is not like the army of Hussein in 1990.

          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          2. Get out of the way completely and forever Russia, which every time is reborn right on his road

          Why didn't they do it in the 90s, but provided assistance? Why did they help at 41-45? Helped at 21-23? Look for Aivazovsky's "Food Distribution" and "Aid Ship". I do not think that there is another country that has helped Russia so much in all its guises. Some of this assistance was in the interests of the United States, but some was also pure charity.

          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          Destroy the alternative cultural branch on which the self-consciousness of some of his ideological enemies rests

          You will be able to formulate what kind of animal such an "alternative cultural branch" is. Since the time of Peter the Great, Russian culture has been part of European culture. What alternative are you seeing now? What needs to be destroyed from the point of view of the Hegemon?

          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          He has reasons, but it's really difficult to understand you
          That's it Oleg

          Do you know such an experiment with a black and white pyramid? Modern Russian propaganda is based on it. A person is a conformist by nature and the task of propaganda is to convince him that what is broadcast by this propaganda is shared by the majority. I am trying to the best of my modest ability to break this illusion of the majority. Maybe someone will think and understand that the country is going the wrong way.
    2. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
      Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 14 June 2022 01: 45
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      Bravo! Everything is said correctly.
  3. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 9 June 2022 20: 46
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    I hope everyone here understands that after the first nuclear strike there will be a response, after which the next war will follow in 500 years and will be fought, at best, with a bow and arrows.

    And here I disagree with you. Let's remember 1939. Poland is occupied by Germany. The action of Britain, "huddled" on their island and did not even twitch to save Poland. But an agreement was signed on helping Poland in case of war. So here, if Russia inflicts a nuclear strike on its troops, the Americans will RISK and their cities of London, New York, Paris are small-shaven for the sake of Warsaw, that's the question. Something tells me NO!
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 9 June 2022 22: 45
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      Quote: Dust
      The action of Britain, "huddled" on their island and did not even twitch to save Poland. But an agreement was signed on helping Poland in case of war.

      What was it?
      England fought alone for almost two years. And if you think that the battle for the Atlantic was so-so, a small military clash, then you are deeply mistaken.

      Quote: Dust
      Something tells me NO!

      Want to check it out?
      1. Dust Offline Dust
        Dust (Sergei) 13 June 2022 07: 07
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        England fought alone for almost two years.

        Are you seriously?
        1. Dust Offline Dust
          Dust (Sergei) 13 June 2022 07: 08
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          During the entire period of the war, German submariners sank 2603 ​​Allied warships and transport ships with a total displacement of 13,5 million tons. Including 2 battleships, 6 aircraft carriers, 5 cruisers, 52 destroyers and more than 70 warships of other classes. More than 100 thousand military and merchant sailors of the allied fleet became victims of these attacks. The West group of submarines should be recognized as the most productive. Her submarines attacked 10 convoys, sinking 33 ships with a total tonnage of 191 gross tons. This "wolf pack" lost only one submarine - U-414.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 13 June 2022 21: 01
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            Yes, including the Battle of the Atlantic. And thank God that it was, otherwise Germany would have directed the resources involved in this battle against the USSR. And those are great resources.
        2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 13 June 2022 20: 58
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          Quite. What bothers you?
  4. Andreysradinsky Offline Andreysradinsky
    Andreysradinsky (Andrew) 9 June 2022 22: 43
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    I wonder how many stars this tactical genius has on shoulder straps .. or just badges
  5. Oleg_5 Online Oleg_5
    Oleg_5 (Oleg) 9 June 2022 22: 47
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    You know what a thing...
    These warnings that "as soon as we immediately" were no longer one, not two, and not even three.
    Likewise, "as soon as" has happened more than once.
    But nothing.
    A threat that is not backed up by action ceases to be a threat.
  6. ChopChop Offline ChopChop
    ChopChop 9 June 2022 23: 53
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    And in general, sleep peacefully. We have warned all countries about responsibility. All these countries have unanimously saluted and fulfilled the order on the supply of weapons, and the volume of supplies is growing. When will we hit the decision-making centers? We don't hear about the destruction in Washington DC yet, because everything else is just executive bodies.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 10 June 2022 01: 26
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      Quote from ChopChop
      We don't hear about the destruction in Washington DC yet, because everything else is just executive bodies.

      Are you aware of the cost of destroying Washington DC?
      As the author wrote

      I hope everyone here understands that after the first nuclear strike there will be a response, after which the next war will follow in 500 years and will be fought, at best, with a bow and arrows.
  7. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich 10 June 2022 07: 58
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    We hear this all the time anyway. And the strength of the eggs is checked at Easter, and not at war. I wonder what path the Patriotic War would take if Hitler constantly warned us of an attack 24 hours in advance. The article shows that our weapons lag behind the American ones in range and quality, but you guys don't worry, we'll try to tickle Biden's balls. Biden has less than a year left to live, why should he be afraid, he can drag the whole world with him to the grave.
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  9. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 10 June 2022 08: 45
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    If only 4 installations are really transferred, then this is just a drop in the ocean. Moreover, crests hastily trained half of the installations will break, half will be lost. As I have already said, the war cannot be won or even broken by missiles alone. The armed forces are a living organism that must be balanced. We really don’t have enough UAVs, especially drums. If we had at least a thousand of them at the front, these chimars would have clicked pretty quickly.
  10. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 14 June 2022 01: 52
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    This war will escalate into a nuclear one not now. And not this year. And the first nuclear strike will not be used on Ukraine. The first nuclear strike will most likely be on Washington, or Brussels, after our missile defense system shoots down American nuclear missiles flying to Russia.