Foreign Policy spoke about the main goals of Putin in Ukraine, which they try not to notice in the West

5 2022 June 12

One of the reasons why it is so difficult to understand Russia's intentions and what is at stake in the conflict in Ukraine is the significant discrepancy between how events are seen by external observers and how they are viewed from within the Kremlin. Columnist Tatyana Stanovaya writes about this in her article for the American magazine Foreign Policy.

The author spoke about the main goals of the Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Ukraine, which the West tries not to notice. At the same time, she criticized the erroneous assumptions about what is happening that are common in Western countries.

Stanovaya emphasized that the owner of the Kremlin does not need control over the entire Ukrainian territory at all, he did not come there for the lands. The main goal of Putin, in her opinion, is the elimination of the Anti-Russia project in the face of the existing government in Ukraine, as well as the termination of the geopolitical activities of the West on Ukrainian territory as a whole.

Putin is not against the existence of Ukraine. He wants Kyiv to stop any cooperation with the NATO bloc, which considers Moscow an enemy, and also stop oppressing the Russian-speaking citizens of the country. Therefore, the accession of the LPR and DPR to Russia is generally a secondary task.

Now the Kremlin looks at Ukraine not as an independent player in the world policy, but as a puppet of the West used against the Russian Federation. It is in connection with this that Putin is not at war with Ukraine for real and does not seek to destroy it, depriving it of statehood.

Moscow wants the West to change its approach to the Russian Federation and begin to take into account Russian interests. Putin is trying to make his Western "partners" realize and accept this, and Ukraine in this scenario acts only as a "hostage".

The domestic political situation in the Russian Federation is stable, the Russian elite is not protesting, but is consolidating around the head of state. Putin demonstrates confidence in his environment and position. Anti-war speeches do not pose a threat. Only pro-war sentiments in society, including the rise of nationalism, can do more harm to stability.

Stanovaya is sure that, based on the situation, there are only two possible geopolitical options for the further development of events: the defeat of Russia and the collapse of the Russian state, or a change in the West's policy towards Russia, after which an agreement will be concluded between Moscow and Kyiv.

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Chervony Biker

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5 June 2022 16: 45

To achieve the goals of denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine, it is possible today only ONE way.
The dosed and consistent efforts of Russia at the front should "grind" all the nationally preoccupied rabble. So that this process does not stop and the Bandero-fascists do not scatter through the forests to foul out of undertones - the West supplies them with weapons. Who can fight, but not win.
For this, Ukrainian women and children are accepted in the West. Like, fight, kill yourself and do not think about the bad. Possessed and unwilling to work men are not needed by anyone.
For a long time in history there was no such global cooperation, while maintaining the different ultimate goals of all participants.
For Europe, in the end it is equally acceptable as the strengthening of Russia - then they are ready to cooperate with the new center of power without fear of America. Or weakening - then they still love America and obey it. For America, there is little choice, but it is there. Instead of world hegemony, you can take offense at the whole world and return to self-isolation. China benefits from Russia's victory. Which no one left a choice. June 22 is a much worse alternative to February 24.
And all this fascinating action takes place in Ukraine, which no one asks at all.
After reducing the active Bandera livestock to an acceptable level, it will be necessary to carry out a total cleansing of the entire bureaucratic apparatus and the education system with the media to boot. They are even more dangerous than those who are at the front in the trenches. Because smarter and more resourceful. You can come up with something instead of the word "deportation" - "relocation to the territory of ideological loyalty." And send all the rabble who yapped in social networks and the media beyond Zbruch, along with their families. If the "bandera" wants to stay, the alternative is a ban on holding any administrative and government positions for life and working out in the national economy for many years.
Mandatory resettlement program, with state support. all wishing veterans of the MTR to Ukraine.
Galicia will have to take into its bosom all the nationalist scum from all over Ukraine and solemnly handed over to Poland.
After a short pause, it is necessary to declare the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and some decisions of Potsdam and Yalta inappropriate and no longer relevant. (Not concerning Kaliningrad and Belarus.) I am sure that Germany will not mind. And the Poles will have another historical chance, well, at least not to repeat the mistakes of their ancestors. And learn to respect your neighbors. I know it's too much to comment on. But I cannot but pay attention to one more bonus for Russia. This is the creation of a real elite, from the past crucible of the MTR. It really is worth a lot.
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1. wadim-ch
  
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  5 June 2022 17: 35
  
  However, Work on the world order of Ukraine! I can imagine how this rabble will gather behind Zbruch and eventually face Polish nationalism and chauvinism! New Volhynia will not seem to everyone.
2. Valentine
  
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  5 June 2022 17: 40
  
  Quote: Red Biker
  If "Bandera" wants to stay
  
  No “stay”, as Judas Khrushchev did in 1955, we don’t need another Maidan in 30-40 years, everyone to restore the Donbass under the most severe camp regime until the entire industrial and social infrastructure of the future federal districts of Russia is fully restored, and then beyond Zbruch with a wolf ticket, and let all the other residents of the "independent" pass through the newly recreated SMERSH for Bandera lice, but otherwise I agree with you.
  1. Chervony Biker
    
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    6 June 2022 16: 06
    
    You missed some important points from what I wrote. I absolutely DO NOT call for humanism in relation to the military criminals of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. There are no innocents there. But ... There are a huge number of bastards who, it seems, did not commit anything punishable. They just talked, they just supported, they just felt very comfortable in the bureaucratic and deputy chairs under the junta. They are, in fact, even more dangerous than obvious enemies and criminals. As Onufrienko likes to say, "the Internet remembers everything." And we, too, must remember everything for such. And do not let them germinate in the new Ukraine.
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stim

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5 June 2022 16: 57

the owner of the Kremlin does not need control over the entire Ukrainian territory at all, he did not come there for the lands. Putin's main goal, in her opinion, is the elimination of the "Anti-Russia" project in the face of the existing government in Ukraine, as well as the termination of the West's geopolitical activities on Ukrainian territory as a whole.

It is necessary that this be understood not only in the West, but also in Ukraine and Russia, and perhaps the war will end sooner.

Putin demonstrates confidence in his environment and position. Anti-war speeches do not pose a threat. Only pro-war sentiments in society, including the rise of nationalism, can do more harm to stability.

Better not tell.
Siegfried

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5 June 2022 19: 02

In recent days, calls from the main Western media to reach an agreement have been multiplying. If the NYT, Guardian, Spiegel and many others are already openly writing about this (and as we know, this is not the opinion of the editors, but the sounding of signals to Moscow), then we can think about how Russia should react to this.

To what extent is Russia interested in returning to the status quo? There are few reasons for such interest at the moment. There is a suspicion that this could be a big mistake for Russia. The whole world is looking at Russia as it challenged the hegemony of the West, and if Russia agrees to a return to Western domination, consoled by a thrown bone, this can greatly change the perception of Russia in the world. This will show her lack of confidence in her abilities, in her ability to achieve her stated goals.

The West will offer Russia a return to the territories before the NVO, the recognition of the independence of the LDNR and Crimea by Ukraine and the registration of Ukraine as a non-bloc state. Russia can no longer agree to this. The return of Kherson to the control of Ukraine is no longer possible, it will be a mortal blow to the concept of a union state. Russia also needs access to Transnistria.

Fortunately, the Kyiv regime cannot make territorial concessions. Therefore, it is important for Russia that Zelensky remain the president of Ukraine until the Russian Armed Forces demilitarize the main threats in Ukraine.

In cases of a coup in Ukraine, the country loses its legitimate power. Who would not become acting there. President, for Russia, such a turn would mean that the whole of Ukraine is no longer a country, but simply a territory without legitimate power.

But Poland should not give anything away. You need to give them a big bummer. Let an independent Ukraine be better within the framework of the western regions.
1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
  
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  6 June 2022 03: 40
  
  But Poland should not give anything away. You need to give them a big bummer. Let an independent Ukraine be better within the framework of the western regions.
  
  You have mixed two thoughts. One sensible about Poland, the other absurd about an independent Ukraine.
  How difficult the path to understanding simple and natural things turns out to be.
goncharov.62

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5 June 2022 19: 05

God - does anyone else believe in some kind of agreement with the West? I do not mention this 404, so as not to cause unhealthy laughter ... Only complete and unconditional ... either capitulation, or a change of government. Although an individual like Trump - a destroyer will do - without Congress, of course.
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guest

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5 June 2022 19: 13

Quote: Siegfried
Let an independent Ukraine be better within the framework of the western regions.

But who will guarantee this independence? Repeating the same mistake as with Finland is unacceptable.
1. tkot973
  
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  5 June 2022 23: 03
  
  We will and will guarantee what kind of problems? ))))
  1. guest
    
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    25 November 2022 16: 40
    
    And how exactly are we going to guarantee?
Yuri Bryanskiy

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6 June 2022 14: 41

The whole Ukrainian land should be our joint part of Russia.