Russian Aerospace Forces will have to fight in the sky over Ukraine with NATO fighters


To achieve a convincing victory in a modern type of war, it is necessary to seize and maintain air supremacy. The massive missile and air strikes of the Russian troops in the first days after the start of the special military operation were aimed at destroying fighters, attack aircraft and bombers of the Ukrainian Air Force, as well as suppressing the air defense system. A little over three months later, this primary task still cannot be considered finally completed. Why did this happen?


There are really a lot of questions. On March 6, 2022, two weeks after the start of the SVO, the official speaker of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Igor Konashenkov, stated the following:

Almost all combat-ready aviation of the Kyiv regime has been destroyed.

According to the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, until February 24, 2022, Kyiv was armed with 152 aircraft and 149 helicopters of various types and modifications. However, a few more months have passed since then, and the planes of the Ukrainian Air Force still continue to stray and fall. On May 27, the destruction of 180 Ukrainian aircraft and 127 helicopters was reported, and this is clearly not the end. The numbers don't add up, but why?

In fact, this "mathematical riddle" has a fairly simple explanation. The "infinity" of Ukrainian military aviation consists of several factors at once:

At first, far from all aircraft and helicopters recorded as destroyed have been irretrievably destroyed. In Ukraine, since the times of the USSR, a mass of aircraft repair plants have remained, where lined machinery you can quickly patch up and put it back into battle if you don’t feel sorry for the pilot. And the Kyiv regime definitely does not feel sorry for him, they only feel sorry for the “heroic ghosts”.

Secondly, at these same aircraft repair and aircraft manufacturing enterprises there could be and, most likely, there were combat aircraft and helicopters written off on the flight hours or awaiting repair and modernization, which were quickly “shamanized” and returned to service.

Thirdly, apparently, our "western partners" from the countries of Eastern Europe have begun supplying Soviet-made MiG-29 fighters and Su-25 attack aircraft to Kyiv, but not entirely, but in disassembled form. These “repair kits” cross the border of Ukraine in the form of spare parts, and then their “screwdriver assembly” is made locally.

In this regard, legitimate questions arise: why is the railway network still functioning on the territory of Western Ukraine and why have not all the aircraft building and aircraft repair plants of Nezalezhnaya, without exception, been destroyed as part of the “demilitarization” yet? Probably, the recent Russian missile attack on the Motor Sich enterprise was connected precisely with this, but there are also aircraft repair plants in Kharkov, Konotop, Odessa, Nikolaev and Kyiv. What are we waiting for? Who do we save for?

So far, the VKS of the Russian Federation during the special operation is helped by the exceptionally low level of training of Ukrainian pilots, who, it seems, have not won a single air battle with our fighters, and the fact that they are fighting on obsolete aircraft. But, the longer the NWO drags on, the more negative the general trend will be.

By NATO standards


Obviously, sooner or later, but Kyiv and its curators will run out of Soviet-made aircraft in the storerooms. But this will definitely not mean an end to the air war.

A year ago we told that the Ukrainian Air Force began to ask the price of acquiring American and Swedish-made fighters. The possibility of buying a batch of F-16 Block 70/72 fighters was reported by the specialized publication Defense Blog, citing its sources:

Ukraine is seeking to modernize its air force. In this regard, the F-16 Block 70/72 aircraft are proposed, which will allow it to carry out such modernization in the best possible way.

Now, after the start of real hostilities, the likelihood of such a scenario seems extremely high.

The Independent Air Force wants to receive fourth-generation F-15 and F-16 fighters. Rumors are circulating on social networks, not yet officially confirmed, that Ukrainian pilots have already begun training to fly foreign aircraft. Perhaps the training center for them is somewhere in Eastern Europe, where many countries are armed with such American-made fighters and openly support the criminal regime of President Zelensky. Also, the Ukrainian Air Force may receive Swedish-made JAS-39C/D Gripen multirole fighters in the future, ideally suited to operate in harsh winter conditions and take off and land on roads.

The retraining of Ukrainian pilots will take several months, but our special operation is not developing very quickly either. Probably, Russian pilots will still have to actually fight in the sky over Nezalezhnaya against NATO fighters.
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 30 May 2022 15: 28
    +5
    why the railway network is still functioning on the territory of Western Ukraine,

    So it seems that even Sergei Mikheev said that it is not profitable for someone in Russia to destroy the Ukrainian railway. Question - to whom?

    Probably, Russian pilots will still have to actually fight in the sky over Nezalezhnaya against NATO fighters.

    Is it that the West wants to divide Ukraine into North and South Korea? It was in Korea that Soviet pilots fought with NATO.
    1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 30 May 2022 23: 03
      0
      Who is Sergei Mikheev and how does he know what is beneficial to us and what is not? Another amateur puffing out his cheeks on the TV screen?
  2. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 30 May 2022 16: 09
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    recent Russian missile attack on the Motor Sich enterprise

    "Motor Sich" could have been put out of action more accurately (for example, by breaking up power substations). The fact is that this is a unique enterprise for the production of helicopter engines. There are not many enterprises in the world that have mastered this production (this is far from being the case in all developed countries), and after the liberation of the Zaporozhye region, it would be useful to them.
    1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 30 May 2022 23: 05
      -2
      What is unique about Motor Sich? Do you have any idea what they release there? There are still Soviet-designed engines, which are 40-50 years old. What is unique about them? And they will restore the substation in half a working day.
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 30 May 2022 17: 08
    +1
    Duc, the stump is clear. If different volunteers drive around in tanks and shoot from beeches, then why not fly on SU or F? Alas.

    And in terms of losses ... when they counted after the Second World War, both we and the Germans, according to reports, completely destroyed the enemy Air Force 4 times ...

    By the way, they were promoting that our radars see planes, even stealth, all over Europe. So the training sorties of these F should be detected immediately ...
    1. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 30 May 2022 19: 36
      -1
      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      By the way, they were promoting that our radars see planes, even stealth, all over Europe. So the training sorties of these F should be detected immediately ...

      Doesn't it seem strange to you that the unpunished bombing of Russian territory by ukroletaks took place in "blind zones", and now they are suggesting conspiracy theories about "dismantled aircraft, helicopters"? Are there no "blind spots" in the Carpathians? Who is stopping them from taking off from NATO airfields and returning back (if they don’t shoot down)?
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 31 May 2022 20: 56
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        No ... There is a lot of chaos in any war.
        and do not forget about the anecdote "what are we for?"
    2. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 30 May 2022 23: 07
      -1
      Where did you read this nonsense about the loss of the Air Force during the Second World War?
  4. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 30 May 2022 17: 09
    +1
    This is serious: "The Ukrainian Air Force has begun to ask the price of acquiring American and Swedish-made fighters"?
    Does Ukraine have money to buy and operate such equipment?
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 May 2022 17: 21
      +2
      Does Ukraine have money to buy and operate such equipment?

      The money is provided by the USA.
      1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
        igor.igorev (Igor) 30 May 2022 23: 09
        -4
        There are a lot of idiots in power in the USA, but they know how to count money. Khokhlov are supplied with ancient weapons at the price of new ones. It is better to give it to Lend-Lease and someday get money than just cut this rubbish.
    2. Volga073 Offline Volga073
      Volga073 (MIKLE) 30 May 2022 18: 53
      +1
      There is. 40 Billion.
      1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
        igor.igorev (Igor) 30 May 2022 23: 11
        -2
        Who has? From the USA? You would read that out of these 40 billion Ukrainians will get. There is a maximum of 2-3 billion in the best scenario. And that is purely theoretical.
    3. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 30 May 2022 19: 40
      +2
      Quote from Mikhail L.
      Does Ukraine have money to buy and operate such equipment?

      You don't have enough money from the whole West?
    4. Smilodon terribilis nimis 30 May 2022 20: 37
      0
      The can will lend.
  5. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 May 2022 17: 30
    -4
    In principle, Western military aircraft with pilots from NATO countries are quite possible.

    There are pluses.
    A) Run our air defense on more modern aircraft.
    B) The fifth column, which will resent the destruction of Poland, will be deprived of Russian citizenship and evicted to NATO countries.
    C) Belarus, having returned the Lithuanian lands, will receive access to the sea.

    Well, again, we will test nuclear weapons and missiles.
    Surely there is room for improvement. Not only increase the number.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 30 May 2022 20: 08
      0
      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Well, again, we will test nuclear weapons and missiles.

      I don't understand why you want to die so much?
      1. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
        Vox Populi (vox populi) 30 May 2022 20: 16
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        It seems that here and on "Military Review" there is a considerable group of commentators for whom this thought is an expression of their obsessive desire to "suicide", taking with them more people ... winked
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 30 May 2022 20: 46
          -2
          I don't think they bother to think about the consequences.
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Alexander) 30 May 2022 21: 06
            +3
            Do you think that sending the United States weapons to the war with the Russian Federation is not the desire of the United States to die, not to mention the statements of one Englishman, with a chicken nest instead of a hairstyle, that he will allegedly inflict a nuclear strike on the Russian Federation, and the first ... And what will remain of England, he did not think?
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 30 May 2022 22: 00
              -3
              Quote: Sapsan136
              Do you think that sending US weapons to war with the Russian Federation is not the US desire to die

              No, I don't.

              Quote: Sapsan136
              I'm not talking about the statements of one Englishman, with a chicken nest instead of a hairstyle, that he will allegedly inflict a nuclear strike on the Russian Federation, and the first ...

              Can I quote?
              1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                Sapsan136 (Alexander) 30 May 2022 23: 36
                +2
                He shouted something there that if the Russian Federation launched a nuclear strike on Ukraine, England would launch a nuclear strike on the Russian Federation ... The Russian Federation would launch a nuclear strike on Ukraine only in response to a nuclear strike on the Russian Federation, or a nuclear power plant in the Russian Federation, and such a strike would be justified , and if England doesn’t like it and she is ready to die for Ukraine, let her die, or sit quietly on her island until a rocket arrives from the Russian Federation, and one is enough for all of England
                1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                  Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 31 May 2022 13: 15
                  -1
                  Quote: Sapsan136
                  will inflict a nuclear strike on the Russian Federation, and the first ...

                  if the Russian Federation inflicts ... England will inflict a nuclear ... The Russian Federation will inflict a nuclear strike on Ukraine only in response to a nuclear strike on the Russian Federation ...

                  What a complex world you live in. In short, in your opinion, no one will bomb anyone with a vigorous loaf?

                  Quote: Sapsan136
                  England does not like this and she is ready to die for Ukraine, let her die, or sit quietly on her island until a rocket from the Russian Federation arrives, and one is enough for all of England

                  But at the same time, we remember that we die with them.
                  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 1 June 2022 16: 11
                    0
                    If a dirty, or an American atomic bomb is dropped on the Russian Federation, if the broad people start shooting at nuclear power plants in order to arrange a new Chernobyl in the Russian Federation, the Russian Federation will respond without fail and respond with a nuclear strike, since no one will forgive nuclear strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation, because this precedent ... the Russian Federation will not respond and all and sundry will begin to drop nuclear bombs on its cities ... England's nuclear strike of the Russian Federation, with heavy losses, but will survive, but after a nuclear strike of the Russian Federation in England, there will not even be mice left for this, with a chicken nest on his head, it would not hurt to remember this ...
                    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 1 June 2022 21: 35
                      -4
                      Quote: Sapsan136
                      If a dirty, or an American atomic bomb is dropped on the Russian Federation, if the broads start shooting at nuclear power plants in order to arrange a new Chernobyl in the Russian Federation, the Russian Federation will respond without fail

                      And if they do not reset, then they will not answer. Let's decide on this.

                      Quote: Sapsan136
                      England's nuclear strike of the Russian Federation, with heavy losses, but will survive, but after a nuclear strike of the Russian Federation in England, even mice will not be left, and this one, with a chicken nest on his head, would do well to remember this ...

                      Do you live in Rostov-on-Don? Rostov will not survive, the British have 225 thermonuclear charges. There are 168 cities in Russia with a population of more than 100 people. Surely not everything is simple (1 charge is not necessarily 1 city), but we will lose the largest and largest. The question of whether Russia will survive after the disappearance of these cities and their associated transport infrastructure is open. The Chinese are sure to be happy. If the United States joins this fun (almost certainly), Russia will simply disappear.
                      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 2 June 2022 09: 37
                        +1
                        Well, if the United States joins, then not only England will disappear, but also the United States, the Russian Federation will have enough nuclear weapons for all the Anglo-Saxons ... As for China, it needs Taiwan, which means it is more likely to hit the USA and Japan than the Russian Federation ... Near China there are such goodies as Thailand, whose army China can disperse simply with kicks, so China has no need to fight the Russian Federation ...
              2. isofat Online isofat
                isofat (isofat) 30 May 2022 23: 51
                0


                Oleg Rambover, this video information, I hope, will help you better than printed text, which is difficult for you to perceive. laughing love
      2. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
        igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 12: 24
        0
        As I understand it, you want to die from a dirty Ukrainian atomic bomb?
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 31 May 2022 12: 41
          -2
          Where did you get such nonsense?
          1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
            igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 12: 45
            0
            Stupidity? It is for this reason that the SVO was started. Even a schoolboy can create a dirty atomic bomb. And crests have already begun to create it.
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 31 May 2022 12: 51
              -2
              And that is why the Chernobyl nuclear power plant was returned to Ukraine, while the Khmelnitsky and South Ukrainian nuclear power plants always remained under the control of Ukraine? Sometimes you need to turn on critical thinking. Tell me more about biolaboratories.
              1. isofat Online isofat
                isofat (isofat) 31 May 2022 13: 04
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                Quote: Oleg Rambover
                Tell me more about biolaboratories.

                Oleg Rambover, and you tell me how bad Stalin is, that he overslept the attack of the Nazis. love laughing
              2. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
                igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 13: 56
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                Our people were convinced that everything was fine at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. But at the ZNPP, enriched uranium and plutonium were found in very large quantities, which indicates the possibility of creating even a real, and not a dirty, atomic bomb. We have not yet reached the KhNPP and YuNPP.
                1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                  Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 31 May 2022 14: 56
                  -3
                  Quote: igor.igorev
                  Our people were convinced that everything was fine at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.

                  Are you seriously? There are rooms at the station that even now, if you enter certain death, it is full of radioactive materials, there are reactors, albeit stopped. There are a lot of radioactive burial grounds. Lots of materials for dirty bom. There, almost the land from the Red Forest can be used for such a bomb.

                  Quote: igor.igorev
                  But at the ZNPP, enriched uranium and plutonium were found in very large quantities, which indicates the possibility of creating even a real, and not a dirty, atomic bomb.

                  Shouldn't they have been there?

                  Quote: igor.igorev
                  We have not yet reached the KhNPP and YuNPP.

                  Yeah, it's understandable, but the Ukrainians are waiting for us to get there and that's why they don't make "dirty" bombs.
                  1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
                    igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 15: 32
                    0
                    As I understand it, you yourself walked around the premises at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant?
                    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 31 May 2022 15: 57
                      -2
                      Are we already on you? Why talk nonsense? just ask the question. Why do you think a sarcophagus was built there? The rooms under Unit 4 are filled with the remnants of the reactor core. It's impossible to enter there.
                      1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
                        igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 16: 00
                        +1
                        A second sarcophagus has already been built there and no one goes there.
                      2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 1 June 2022 09: 55
                        -2
                        So why two sarcophagi? Not to prevent leakage of radioactive materials?
  6. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
    igor.igorev (Igor) 30 May 2022 23: 13
    -2
    Remind me, this is when Belarus belonged to Lithuanian lands? Do you even know that the state of Belarus arose in 1991, and before that it did not exist on any map of the world?
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 31 May 2022 01: 38
      0
      Well, the same can be said about Lithuania.
      1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
        igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 09: 08
        -3
        To be honest, I studied history only at school, I didn’t have it at the university, I studied at a technical school. But as far as I remember, there was the Lithuanian principality, which means they also had lands. But Belarus, like the Belarusians themselves, did not exist. Purely communist fiction.
        1. guest Offline guest
          guest 31 May 2022 17: 01
          0
          It was a principality, but it included Belarusian and Little Russian lands, which the Lithuanians occupied.
          1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
            igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 17: 16
            -1
            The fact is that there was no mention of Belarus. Here's the rub. Poland was. The Lithuanian principality was. Russia was. But Belarus, like Ukraine, did not exist. It wasn't at all.
    2. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 31 May 2022 10: 11
      +2
      Stop smoking rubbish. Belarus, along with Ukraine, have been full members of the UN from the very beginning.
      1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
        igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 11: 05
        -2
        And what about the UN? They entered there at the suggestion of the USSR as the most affected by fascism. But there was no talk of any statehood. For the first time, these entities received statehood in 1991.
    3. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 31 May 2022 10: 21
      +1
      Hello !!! Until the age of 40, the capital of Lithuania was Kaunas. The current Vilnius was transferred to Lithuania by Stalin’s decision, and with it a rather big piece of the territory of Belarus in order to be able to accept Lithuania as a full-fledged republic as part of the USSR. And so it didn’t even pull on an autonomous region .
      1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
        igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 11: 08
        -1
        Did you start studying history exclusively from the moment the USSR was formed? A little earlier, what was it? Have you not studied this? Can you tell me about the great Belarus until October 25, 1917, according to the old style. It is very interesting to read your interpretation on this issue. Or Georgian Dzhugashvili once ruled the Russian Empire?
        1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 31 May 2022 15: 28
          +1
          And who do you think lived on the territory of present-day Belarus. The main military force of the Polish-Lithuanian state was the Litvins. When they rub it in me that the Poles captured Moscow in troubled times, I write with laughter. They spoke Russian Orthodox. The current Belarusians are their descendants. It was Ivan Susanin who led the Belarusians through the swamps .. If the Gedeminoviches were smarter, most likely the capital of our current state would be a trap ..
          1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
            igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 15: 31
            -1
            Who lived? Russians lived there, or as they were called LITTLE, but there were no Belarusians at all. Like the Belarusian language, it is as artificial as Ukrainian.
    4. Cetron Offline Cetron
      Cetron (Peteris) 31 May 2022 23: 55
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      The Byelorussian Soviet Republic arose in 1920. In 1922 it became part of the USSR. It was a member of the League of Nations, and after the Second World War, of the UN, like the Ukrainian SSR. In fact, the USSR in the UN until 1991 had three voices in the UN: the USSR, Ukraine and Belarus
  • Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 30 May 2022 17: 33
    -1
    Probably, Russian pilots will still have to actually fight in the sky over Nezalezhnaya against NATO fighters.

    If anyone does not know, then the Russian Aerospace Forces do not fly even now over Ukraine. Air bombs are not used at all as a class, only missiles from the territory of the Russian Federation (Caspian Sea). Works three times (Konashenkov) "suppressed" air defense of Ukraine and four times "destroyed" (the same) aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    By the time the new aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine appear, Russian aviation will shoot from behind the Urals.
    What battles are we talking about?
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 May 2022 17: 43
      -1
      If anyone does not know, then the Russian Aerospace Forces do not fly even now over Ukraine.

      Yes Yes Yes. Of course they don't fly. Complete dominance of the Armed Forces aviation in the waters of the Black Sea.
      Yesterday 40 strategic attack aircraft b. Ukraine, taking off from the Bandera aircraft carrier, bombed Khabarovsk. media b. Ukraine and the great Teacher will not let you lie.
    2. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 30 May 2022 23: 15
      +1
      Aviation of the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation works daily over the territory of Ukraine. Otherwise, the infantry would sit still. It is only thanks to aviation that we are moving forward.
  • Colonel Kudasov (Leopold) 30 May 2022 17: 39
    0
    If NATO planes appear in the Ukrainian sky, then with foreign pilots. Will the West go for it?
  • Volga073 Offline Volga073
    Volga073 (MIKLE) 30 May 2022 17: 57
    +1
    Shoigu - he is the Ministry of Emergency Situations, he knows how to save children from AzovStal. He's like a diving dog.
    And here we need a fighting dog, like a German one, we need a regular military man who understands all this.
    Almost all journalists are already writing about this problem, but they are probably not read at the General Staff,
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 May 2022 18: 14
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      Almost all journalists are already writing about this problem, but they are probably not read at the General Staff,

      Well, if journalists write, then there is nowhere to go.
      It's time to inform the General Staff to send an intelligent military man to the post of Minister of Defense. Well, inform the General Staff that now it is not he who controls the RF Armed Forces, but the new Minister of Defense. And they can go on vacation. The Minister of Defense will give the right commands to the battalion and brigade commanders. And, if suddenly necessary, he himself will lead the soldiers to attack enemy cannons and machine guns.
    2. skeptic Offline skeptic
      skeptic 30 May 2022 19: 49
      +1
      Quote: Volga073
      Shoigu - he is the Ministry of Emergency Situations, he knows how to save children from AzovStal. He's like a diving dog.
      And here we need a fighting dog, like a German one, we need a regular military man who understands all this.
      Almost all journalists are already writing about this problem, but they are probably not read at the General Staff,

      There it is, how you suffered ... Shoigu - the supply manager. His task is to contribute to the life of the Army as much as possible. And the military, in the General Staff and in the troops. You should not show off "knowledge" in cynology. Most likely, they are no more than in real, military craft. Who was Sidor Kovpak before the war?
    3. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 30 May 2022 23: 18
      -3
      Child. Do you even know who leads the armed forces in combat? Remind me what kind of education the Georgian Dzhugashvili had, who was listed as the Supreme Commander-in-Chief.
    4. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 31 May 2022 10: 23
      0
      And what about us, Kuzhegetych commands the NWO? I remember Colonel-General Dvornikov doing this. Maybe I overslept something? Enlighten request
  • Remigius Offline Remigius
    Remigius (Remigiusz) 30 May 2022 18: 30
    +4
    In this regard, legitimate questions arise: why is the railway network still operating in Western Ukraine, and why not all Independence aircraft-building and repair plants, without exception, have not yet been destroyed as part of “demilitarization”?
    1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 30 May 2022 23: 19
      -2
      And what kind of aircraft building and repair plants are there in Western Ukraine? It is possible from this place in more detail?
  • Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 30 May 2022 19: 34
    0
    why is the railway network still operating in Western Ukraine, and why not all Independence aircraft-building and repair plants without exception have not yet been destroyed as part of “demilitarization”?
    There are thousands of questions like this every day. Not a single answer! The lives of young soldiers and officers devoted to Russia are nothing for the Kremlin! The interests of the oligarchs, both Russian and Ukrainian, who use these paths are the main thing.
    Everyone understands though. What does Putin hope for in 2024? They will bury in the far corner of the village cemetery and put a dry closet nearby (in the hope that they will urinate there, and not on the grave). This is unlikely (about where to urinate).
  • k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 30 May 2022 20: 45
    +3
    Quote: Volga073
    There is. 40 Billion

    Here https://www.kp.ru/daily/27398.5/4594121/ it is chewed in detail that the banderlogs will get to cut from these denyuhs. At the same time, read how they will be allocated
  • k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 30 May 2022 20: 49
    +5
    Quote: skeptic
    Who was Sidor Kovpak before the war?

    Whoever Sidor Artemyevich was before the war, but during the war he became a military general and twice Hero of the Soviet Union
  • dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 30 May 2022 21: 02
    +5
    Quote: Volga073
    There is. 40 Billion.

    Wrong deeply. Check out this article. How to get 6 and wear many times more.
    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/acsior/kak-poluchit-6-i-otdat-v-razy-bolshe-628f2ab05f085456c7efe134

    Excerpt for the restless:

    Here are some aggregated items of cash expenditure

    16 billion - delivery of humanitarian aid. Recipients - Ukraine and other countries affected by the situation in Ukraine.
    11 billion - supply of equipment. Recipients - Ukraine and other countries affected by the situation in Ukraine.
    8,8 billion - anti-trafficking programs. Recipients - Ukraine and other countries affected by the situation in Ukraine.
    9 billion - the purchase of weapons to replenish the arsenals of the US Army. The recipient is the American military-industrial complex.
    3,9 billion - the content of the US military stationed in Europe. The recipient is the US Department of Defense.
    4 billion is a foreign military funding program and is NOT a WEAPON. Recipient - US State Department
    6 billion - the actual supply of weapons to Ukraine. The recipient is the USAI Foundation, which will directly pay for the purchases.
  • igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
    igor.igorev (Igor) 30 May 2022 23: 01
    -1
    It's time for the author to write fantastic stories. Do you know how long it takes to train a pilot? Even during the Second World War, it took a year to learn takeoff and landing on primitive aircraft, and then a purely semi-finished product was produced. And to master a modern NATO fighter, you need to be a 1st class pilot and fly at least 100 hours on it. Where will Ukraine get such pilots? They are all already with mouths full of earth. And the statistics do not converge because the former VD countries supply their aircraft. But there are not so many of them and soon they will end. The author argues like a car enthusiast, such as transferring from a MiG-29 to a NATO plane, it's like transferring from Zaporozhets to a Ford.
  • cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 31 May 2022 02: 45
    0
    Specifically Putin and Shoigu! Maybe you finally deign to explain yourself to the people? What is happening, the fourth month of the so-called. CBO, maybe stop playing spillikins and finally take on the Ukronazis in an adult way ?? And - where are the promised retaliation strikes against the so-called. solution centers in Kyiv? Where is the massive bombardment of means and routes for the delivery of Western weapons? How long?!
    1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 09: 17
      -5
      So sketch out a plan, send it to Putin and Shoigu. And then such a cool military expert here erases his fingers on the clave, but in the Kremlin they don’t know what to do. How many sofa warriors are you here?
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 31 May 2022 06: 34
    -1
    The fifth column received an order from NATO. To create public opinion that the use of nuclear weapons is unacceptable. Because we are all going to die. At the same time, it is deliberately not analyzed for what reasons it is proposed to use nuclear weapons. It is forbidden! And that's all. That is, NATO can do whatever it wants, but it will be impossible to use nuclear weapons.
    The question "Why do we need nuclear weapons?" ignored. Or alternatively, that we have the right to retaliate with a nuclear strike.
    We are invited to fight with conventional weapons against NATO cannon fodder, armed with NATO.
    A very convenient position for all our enemies. Let Russia overstrain, producing conventional weapons, losing thousands of its soldiers and civilians.
    1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 09: 18
      -2
      Putin has long put the bolt on the fifth column.
      1. Spasatel Offline Spasatel
        Spasatel 31 May 2022 20: 50
        -1
        And what, Kabaeva is in the fifth column?
  • vo2022smysl Offline vo2022smysl
    vo2022smysl (Common sense) 31 May 2022 09: 14
    +1
    For the alternatively gifted violent representatives of the jingoistic 5/6 column, the AIF reports that, according to the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation:

    What are the conditions for the use of nuclear weapons by Russia?
    According to the decree, the conditions for the use of nuclear weapons are:
    - the receipt of reliable information about the launch of ballistic missiles that attack the territory of Russia or its allies;
    - the use by the enemy of nuclear weapons or other types of weapons of mass destruction against Russia or its allies;
    - the impact of the enemy on the critically important state or military facilities of Russia, the failure of which will lead to the disruption of the response of nuclear forces;
    - aggression against Russia with the help of conventional weapons, when the existence of the state is threatened.

    The decree says that the Russian Federation is considering nuclear weapons solely as a means of deterrence, the use of which is an extreme and necessary measure.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 31 May 2022 09: 32
      -1
      War with NATO - does it threaten the existence of our state?
      1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
        igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 12: 33
        -3
        We are not at war with NATO. Although there are many idiots, many have a mind and they perfectly understand how it will end.
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 31 May 2022 15: 04
          +1
          The question was not whether we are at war with NATO. The question was whether the war with NATO is a threat to our state.

          We are not at war with NATO.

          Absolutely right. NATO is at war with us. While cannon fodder with b. Ukraine. Then meat from Poland, Romania will be used. And you will chew your "We are not at war with NATO."
          1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
            igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 15: 25
            -2
            Are you impatient to fight NATO? Well, get off the couch, take a gun and go.
            1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 31 May 2022 15: 35
              -1
              Hiding under the couch won't save you.
              And me, yes. If necessary, I will go to fight for my country.
              And I won’t be offended at all if our country launches a nuclear strike against NATO countries.
              Moreover, it is desirable to do this before our losses begin to amount to tens of millions.
              1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
                igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 16: 05
                -1
                Although the holidays, but you better sit down for the lessons, it will come in handy in September.
  • Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
    Vox Populi (vox populi) 31 May 2022 17: 26
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    Quote: igor.igorev
    Who lived? Russians lived there, or as they were called LITTLE, but there were no Belarusians at all. Like the Belarusian language, it is as artificial as Ukrainian.

    It seems that such comments are written in ..., well, you probably understand what I mean. Where do you find with your brothers in mind all this nonsense about "fake" Ukrainians, Belarusians and their "artificial" languages? lol
  • Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
    Vox Populi (vox populi) 31 May 2022 17: 41
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    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    The question was not whether we are at war with NATO. The question was whether the war with NATO is a threat to our state.

    We are not at war with NATO.

    Absolutely right. NATO is at war with us. While cannon fodder with b. Ukraine. Then meat from Poland, Romania will be used. And you will chew your "We are not at war with NATO."

    A logical question arises: If everything is so bad, why are you not personally at war with NATO? And yes, an even more important question: why did we have to participate in this "war" (as you call NWO), if we did not want to?!
  • Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
    Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) 31 May 2022 18: 33
    +3
    There was information that certain business groups with leaders from the former leaders of the organized criminal group were and are on guard at Ukrozheleznitsa. And these groups continue to drive cargo over the hill through country 404, according to a simple scheme: cargo goes through Belarus, in country 404 they become like Ukrainian and calmly move on. They started to hit the railway, but then, apparently, these business groups "popularly" explained what it threatens people who give orders. Without any The Hague. This, it seems, explains why the strikes stopped so abruptly.
    Well, the leaders of these business groups do not give a damn about the fact that "Ukrozheleznitsa" is carrying NATO equipment and weapons for the Wehrmacht's coming out. If they are offered a triple gesheft for NATO assistance in the occupation and dismemberment of our country, they will agree without hesitation.
    1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 22: 02
      -3
      You should write novels. You know everything, you've been everywhere. What cargoes are being transported?
  • Amper Offline Amper
    Amper (Vlad) 31 May 2022 19: 33
    0
    If bridges are not burned, then someone needs it. Look for someone who benefits. There are plenty of beneficiaries, without a chimera of conscience! It's time to get rich!
  • weddu Offline weddu
    weddu (Kolya) 31 May 2022 21: 06
    -1
    You understand that the supplier to transfer to Ukraine, say, the F-16 is afraid, because if they start to fall like Bayraktars, their reputation will be undermined, they will simply stop buying. The same applies to other aircraft, tanks and other equipment that is not able to withstand direct confrontation with Russian counterparts. As they say, business, nothing personal ... They will continue to send junk decommissioned for free disposal ...
    1. igor.igorev Offline igor.igorev
      igor.igorev (Igor) 31 May 2022 22: 04
      -2
      Ukrainians don’t have money for the F-16, and they don’t give such equipment to anyone for free. Yes, and the Ukrainians do not have pilots to fly on them. This must be learned.
  • cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 1 June 2022 01: 15
    0
    But what about strikes against headquarters and decision centers? Another blah blah blah was ??
    1. weddu Offline weddu
      weddu (Kolya) 14 June 2022 00: 27
      0
      Kyiv equalize in retaliation for Donetsk, a trifling matter. The government of Russia is trying to keep a human, but stupid face in this matter, when the people of Kiev call Donbas_Bombas...
      Stupidity and misconceptions about the post-war world in Russia are obvious, the West and crests are more pragmatic in this matter .., they would level Moscow, and Muscovites would understand why, why not vice versa ..?