The Federation Council proposed to transfer sales of grain, fertilizers and palladium to rubles

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Russia, according to Vladimir Putin's decree of March 24, sells energy resources to unfriendly countries for rubles. Senator Andrei Klishas proposes to introduce the same calculation method for rare metals.


I know that without our palladium, all automakers will quickly go to the bottom. Palladium only for rubles

- emphasized a member of the Federation Council in his telegram channel.

In addition, Klishas considers it necessary to sell grain and fertilizers for rubles, which are in great demand abroad.

Payment for the supply of grain, fertilizers - all in rubles

Andrey Klishas concluded.

Earlier, the Russian president proposed to speed up the transition in trade with other countries to Russian rubles and national currencies. This decision was made in response to anti-Russian sanctions, which caused difficulties in the logistics of export and import deliveries, as well as obstacles to international payments.

At the same time, Russia successfully managed to resist the sanctions of unfriendly countries, and not least, this was facilitated by the creation and introduction of Mir bank cards into circulation. Western countries did not expect such prompt measures from the Russian government. This point of view was expressed by the Iranian edition of Resalat.
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  1. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 30 May 2022 12: 57
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    and what will you do with rubles, what will you buy in the same west, we need Western technologies, equipment, new factories using new technologies, and that’s where we need to barter our goods
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 30 May 2022 15: 14
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      since foreigners really need oil, gas, metals and fertilizers with bread, they will have to buy rubles, selling foreign currency to our banks at the rate of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, and not the rate of the Fed .... or supply us with what we need, then Russia will eventually start to receive more foreign products, the exchange will become equivalent ..... barter is inconvenient, complicated, and a lot of money will allow you to buy a lot .... I’m glad that respected Klishas began to think in terms of the state, but there is a more important issue, in the conditions of the ultra-high prohibitive restrictions set for us by the IMF no one will and will not be able to develop production in the Russian Federation ... if we left the IMF, then you need to say A and B and reduce taxes so that the business makes a profit, then investments in technology and wealth will pour in to us ..... cancel property taxes and VAT will turn us into the fastest growing economy, these taxes are completely meaningless in the conditions of ultra-high budget revenues from the sale of resources, and introduced not at all to fill the budget, but to destroy the industrial of laziness, the abolition of VAT is a reduction in all prices by 20 percent, that is, a return to 2020 prices and zero inflation
      1. Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
        Polente the Wanderer 30 May 2022 22: 27
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        They don’t sell us currency ... We are paid for the purchase of gas, oil, raw materials ... They need our cars (Lada, Zhiguli) as exotic .. And they pay in dollars for raw materials according to the contract. They will exchange them for how many rubles dollars. Contracts in dollars and not rubles. Yes, for many years now everyone has been counting how much goods cost in dollars, not rubles. If we produced goods in demand (software such as Microsoft systems, smartphones, high-tech machines, microcircuits ...) and sold them for rubles according to the contracts, that would be a different situation.
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 30 May 2022 22: 54
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          Polente the Wanderer, well, let them work, for this we will feed them, give them oil, gas ...

          And to sell their technology? Our union of the peoples of Russia is a multinational, hardworking, creative team... But if there are those who want to earn money, let them work. smile
          1. Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
            Polente the Wanderer 31 May 2022 01: 20
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            Microsoft software is a closed system. And the sale of finished products and not Technologies. And by the way, we give technology practically, since the 90s we have given everything that we can .... We have a lot of minds. we teach again ... We have Science, but the implementation of the results of science is poorly delivered. Co-authors immediately appear. And our scientists from the USSR are not accustomed to the practical application of the results of their work ...
            1. isofat Offline isofat
              isofat (isofat) 31 May 2022 11: 03
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              Polente the Wanderer, I don’t need to hang noodles on my ears, which is weak with us. This is weak for them, but if they want to eat, then let them work in our free from deception and fair (from each according to his work ...) world. They will work well, they will not die of hunger. laughing

              I think you have begun to understand a little that they used to deceive us, and today they again want to ride on our hump, to fix what they messed up themselves. yes
        2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 30 May 2022 23: 18
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          porridge in my head .... money doesn’t smell and the need for gas in winter is always much more in gasoline than in your microsoftware, which is generally unprofitable and exists by speculative pyramid sales of paper shares and infusions of banks and institutional investors, that is, the US Federal Reserve printing press, microsoft is an inflated bubble = a fiction of stock speculators, but you always want to eat bread, turn on the heating and fill up the car .. these are our products
      2. Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
        Polente the Wanderer 30 May 2022 22: 45
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        And by the way, foreigners invested money in our country. Our experts considered all these receipts to be investments. But in fact it was speculative money. What foreigners invested in AvtoVAZ as one of the few real sectors of the economy, and then it practically worked like an assembly line. Renault and car production are being discontinued... "AvtoVAZ will develop new products on Russian platforms using domestic engineering competencies and maximizing the involvement of Russian suppliers" -https://rg.ru/2022/05/27/renault-okonchatelno-pokinula-rossiiu -vyhod-lada-duster-pod-voprosom.html.
        And we all start over...
        1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 30 May 2022 23: 26
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          what is the difference between investment and speculative money? they look identical ... the policy of the occupation administration of the IMF in the Russian Federation and the comprador government of the Chubais Kudrins and their fosterlings was for the collapse of our industry and what you write about AvtoVAZ = true .... the instrument of this policy was super-high taxes and the bureaucratic system of extortion in the region technical regulation and state supervision, all this led to the unprofitability of any production in the Russian Federation, if these two factors are removed, then foreign investment will pour into real production, and offshore money will return
          1. Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
            Polente the Wanderer 31 May 2022 01: 12
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            Speculative money is invested in order to generate income in the difference in exchange rates, share prices .... And the difference can be arranged manually. And investments are a long-term investment with profit from the activities of the company, enterprise. real investment, then it would still work now. But it actually worked as an assembly, and they didn’t really try to produce components from us, but bought them. Renault is a multinational company and it only needed income, not the development of production in our country. How did they come so and those developments that were in the USSR, Russia were successfully bent, helped to say so. What can we talk about if the paint and varnish line is sharpened strictly for a certain paint. Software. The software most likely limits the use of analogues ...
            1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
              Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 31 May 2022 09: 08
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              you are partially right, but I have already answered this question, they will invest in the economy only if production makes a profit, and the tax and supervisory policy of the comprador government of the Russian Federation does not allow this, speculative money was not invested in the Russian Federation. they invest in fast-growing pyramids like MMM microsoft google and so on .... foreign money was invested in the Russian Federation only to capture the key industries of nornickel rusal and nlmk .... or for the deliberate collapse of production (avtovaz) ..... if taxes are reduced and disperse the extortionists from the control authorities, then all technological problems will be solved, you can pick up paint of a similar consistency and set up its production and production of components ...... but so far they don’t even discuss the tax burden and the malice of extortionists of all stripes, so the case of the pipe and my forecast for our industry is bad
              1. Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
                Polente the Wanderer 2 June 2022 16: 57
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                There are interesting statistics on income taxes. I can’t guarantee reliability. But in terms of income taxes, France -35%, GDP per capita in 2013 = 43 thousand dollars, Russia - 20%, GDP per capita = 14819 dollars - https://upsidelab-global.com/vybor-strany/nalogi-v-stranah-mira-188#i-4.


                The tax burden and the "malice" of the inspectors are different concepts.
                Here in the Crimea, vegetables and fruits from Kherson began to be sold and prices immediately went down. The sellers are indignant, and the residents say "our sellers are getting drunk, prices never drop" -https://www.mk.ru/economics/2022/06 /02/krymskie-prodavcy-obratilis-k-vlastyam-ostanovite-postavki-ovoshhey-iz-khersona.html
                1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                  Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 2 June 2022 18: 42
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                  firstly, the income tax shows that production in the Russian Federation is less profitable, secondly, it is the easiest way to avoid it, ... we pay a draconian colonial tax VAT (tax on Russians) Russians pay it, and our government pays it to Americans and Europeans in millions of currency (under the guise of a VAT refund), it is very large and requires huge accounting labor, very complex, in addition to this, we pay NDPI, NDFL, UST, property taxes, taxes in favor of private extortionists (OSAGO, Overhaul, MSW, etc.) in total it turns out about 100 percent ..... it makes no sense to compare with Western taxes, as the grief economist Kudrin does, they really are almost as high there, but ... they are offset by low interest rates on loans, oh, the Western world lives not by production, but by devouring printed money in in the form of loans, their economy is a fake inflated bubble, but now the whole world pays tribute to them (as the Russian Federation paid it through the budget rule of the Russian Federation until January 2022), then they live not badly for I seem to have a little production, but basically only consuming loans ... and no one pays tribute to us, and therefore we need to develop production, and for this we need to reduce taxes so that production becomes profitable not only for fruit merchants working in black cash ... this the proven path of successful China, and the idea of ​​the smartest Deng Xiao Ping
                  1. Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
                    Polente the Wanderer 4 June 2022 00: 07
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                    You have a lot of, roughly speaking, "hanging noodles on your ears." Don't be offended.
                    I showed the stats.

                    GDP - Gross domestic product (eng. gross domestic product), generally accepted abbreviation - GDP (eng. GDP) - a macroeconomic indicator that reflects the market value of all final goods and services (that is, intended for direct consumption, use or application) produced in a year in all sectors of the economy on the territory of a particular state for consumption, export and accumulation, regardless of the nationality of the used factors of production per capita

                    Wikipedia

                    I will not delve into the French tax system, if you have evidence that the level of all taxes levied on legal entities in France is 3 times less than those collected in our country, please provide statistics.
                    In the meantime, it turns out that our production is underdeveloped and it will not change anything from lowering taxes to zero, except that the net profit of legal entities will grow to an indecent size.
                    Sweden has never been a paradise for business, but their GDP per capita is almost 58 thousand against our 15 thousand.
                    Business is looking for an opportunity to make a profit and will go where taxes are lower. In which countries do our businessmen invest money if it is unprofitable for them in Russia?
                    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 4 June 2022 23: 14
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                      if you believe Wikipedia and draw conclusions based on the definitions torn out of it ..... then you still need to learn how to think, then figure out what capitalization is ..... that is, all countries of the world have different capitalization ratios, a brick in the Russian Federation costs 10 p, and in America it’s $ 12, but at the rate it should turn out differently .... now try to clear your formal GDP that does not take into account capitalization and it turns out that the GDP cleared of capitalization is very different and that China has surpassed the United States and has long been in real production
                      1. Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
                        Polente the Wanderer 10 June 2022 19: 32
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                        Unfounded, how do you do it, I'll try to answer you, although I think it's useless ... To believe and know these are completely different things ...
                        Wikipedia only displays data from the World Bank, the IMF or from other sources. If they are not trusted, then there will always be a sufficient number of readers who will point to this, edit the article, citing some statistics data, .... At least it was before 2022.

                        List of countries and territories by GDP (PPP) per capita
                        № Country / territory WB data IMF data
                        2019 2020 2020 2021

                        GDP reflects the level of economic activity of the population,
                        the standard of living within the country or when compared with citizens of another state. Real GDP will naturally differ from nominal. Let the GDP data for the IMF, WB be conditional, but there is at least something to build on.
                        If you do not like the definitions, then edit them, although the concept was introduced into use by the American economist of Belarusian origin Semyon (after immigration Simon) Kuznets in 1934 ...
                        If you are Khazin or believe him, then provide the data, taking into account capitalization -

                        Khazin, on the air of the Govorit Moskva radio station, said that in the United States, “all kinds of encumbrances are hung on any asset: insurance, employee insurance, various salary restrictions and more. According to him, a colossal infrastructure is being created, which must pay a lot to maintain it.
                        Khazin explained that due to this, the United States has such a high GDP, the amount of money in the economy has grown for a new turnover, as a result, the number of assets and enterprises that can be capitalized is growing. When the amount of money is constantly growing, then the depth of capitalization increases. Khazin said that if we include in the Russian GDP the potential income of all insurers, and even according to American standards, then in Russia this figure will grow very much.

                        If it's so simple why, instead of insistently asserting that it is necessary to Reduce Taxes, do not do the same as in the USA and, as a result, get a powerful economy, the well-being of citizens ....
                        GIVE YOUR STATISTICS...
                        Because "America" ​​is not only the USA, but also other countries and bricks are different in composition and size and ....
                      2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 10 June 2022 20: 41
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                        you are naive young man, Wikipedia is written in the CIA, and they won’t let you edit significant things, the same Khazin was omitted there more than once, and if he corrects the article about himself, then after a few minutes everything returned to the form that the powers that be want ... .. about America, you don’t seem to know at all! the private structure of the US Federal Reserve simply prints money as much as it wants, and forces the whole world to use it, that is, it brings inflation to other countries ...... you repeat something over Wikipedia about GDP, and you don’t understand the simple thing that money is in the USA just print and a lot! and their GDP is green paper, they really have a lot of money, and how naively you compare Russia, which cannot print money around the world and force the whole world to use it, ..... incomparable countries, don’t you understand this?
                      3. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 10 June 2022 20: 56
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                        Quote: Wanderer Polente
                        If it's so simple why, instead of insistently asserting that it is necessary to Reduce Taxes, do not do the same as in the USA and, as a result, get a powerful economy, the well-being of citizens ....

                        you don’t distinguish fiction from reality, what do we care about inflated GDP, don’t fall for the bait of cunning liars and manipulators from Wikipedia, in general it’s serious when fiction merges with reality, the welfare of citizens and GDP per capita are not connected in any way, we add up the income of the oligarch and the collective farmer and we get an excellent figure (as the average temperature in the hospital for patients is high, and for corpses it is low, and the average is very excellent)))), millions of Americans do not have a roof over their heads, they are starving, they have never worked and drag out a miserable existence in areas where an ambulance or police will never arrive, where drug addicts shoot at night and where these people never left because they have no money (one American told me that he did not like powdered milk, my mother never bought him natural, lived on child allowance) .. .. nowhere in the Russian Federation did I see a person with an announcement "ready to work for food", but in the USA I saw this ...... high US GDP does not improve the life of Americans in any way, they just have an oligarch hee fatter, these are the real masters of the world and some kind of Abramovichs are nothing for them, .... that's all ...... so the conclusion is, we need not to rig the GDP to create a beautiful picture, as the master of the world does, = The US Federal Reserve, through its lackeys, that is, Wikipedia, the IMF, the WTO, and the World Bank, etc., and we need to develop real production so that products and well-paid jobs appear
                  2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 10 June 2022 20: 42
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                    Quote: Wanderer Polente
                    In what countries do our businessmen invest money if it is unprofitable for them in Russia?

                    cyprus, the cayman islands, and other offshore... and you knew me, right?
                2. Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
                  Polente the Wanderer 4 June 2022 00: 40
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                  https://emigrating.ru/sravnenie-rossii-i-kitaya/#i-2

                  Compared to the tax burden in China - 55%, the average Russian pays 45% to the budget. But for businessmen in the PRC, more loyal conditions have been established: the rates for corporate tax and value added tax are gradually reduced. Russian businessmen often say that it is much easier to open a business on the Chinese side and easier with taxation and financial reporting. Many entrepreneurs demand an additional revision of the tax code of the Russian Federation.


                  But if it’s so good there, then what are our businessmen, companies that produce something significant on their territory?
                3. Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
                  Polente the Wanderer 10 June 2022 20: 39
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                  You claimed - vladimir1155 (vladimir) June 2, 2022 18:42:

                  then they live not badly for the species having a little production, but basically only consuming loans

                  If they have no production, where do they get goods for export?
                  Resell us other people's goods?
                  And why do we then buy from the reseller and not from the manufacturer?

                  Exports from Russia to the United States for the period 2014 - 2020 amounted to $76.1 billion.
                  The main exports were "Mineral products" (40%), "Metals and products from them" (24%).

                  -https://ru-stat.com/date-Y2014-2022/RU/export/US
                  We import mainly raw materials and not products from it ...

                  Imports to Russia from the USA for the period 2014 - 2020 amounted to $91.8 billion.
                  Mostly imported "Hidden section" (28%), "Machinery, equipment and apparatus" (22%).

                  -https://ru-stat.com/date-Y2014-2022/RU/import/US.
                  And also

                  17 : Transport-13.3%","06 : Chemical industry products-13.4%
                  1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
                    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 10 June 2022 20: 59
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                    Quote: Wanderer Polente
                    You stated - vladimir1155 (vladimir) June 2, 2022 18:42: "then they live not badly for appearance, having a little production, but basically only consuming loans .."
                    If they have no production, where do they get goods for export?

                    they do not need goods for export, they print money through the US Federal Reserve and import whatever they want for them, selling their products to their colonies, which was Russia before January 2022, the Americans set high prices, and when buying products and resources from the colonies, they underestimate the price, because prices established by the exchange controlled by it
          2. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 1 June 2022 20: 30
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            Quote: Wanderer Polente
            They invested in AvtoVAZ, but if for the purpose of real investment, it would still work. But it actually worked as an assembly, and they didn’t really try to produce components from us, but bought it. Renault is a multinational company and it only needed income

            yes agree
  • Igor Viktorovich Berdin Offline Igor Viktorovich Berdin
    Igor Viktorovich Berdin 30 May 2022 13: 02
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    It's high time everything without which now can not do only for rubles now, by the end of the year everything that we sell for rubles.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster Offline Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 30 May 2022 13: 09
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    Conduct all trade with enemies for rubles. The scheme is already there. Why not expand it to all the goods that NATO countries want to buy?
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 30 May 2022 15: 16
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      support
  • Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
    Polente the Wanderer 30 May 2022 22: 15
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    They are engaged in self-deception. They accept dollars and euros in our bank, then they themselves exchange them for rubles and say that they accept payments for rubles. And they are going to repay the loans taken by us in the opposite way: put rubles into the account, exchange them for dollars themselves and transfer them to the holders of our sovereign ( government debt...
    Magnificent production of financiers and companies. If we continued to sell the high-tech equipment and technologies we need ... then we could pay off these debts. But the head of the Foreign Ministry himself says that 300 billion were stolen from us and at the same time we are going to pay off our public debt ( 50 billion dollars) ... Theater of the absurd is the mildest expression ....
    1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 30 May 2022 23: 27
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      Quote: Wanderer Polente
      But the head of the Foreign Ministry himself says that 300 billion were stolen from us and at the same time we are going to pay off our public debt (50 billion dollars) ... The theater of the absurd is the mildest expression ....

      right
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster Offline Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 31 May 2022 06: 43
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    Quote: vladimir1155
    the need for gas in winter and always for gasoline is much more than in your microsoftware, which is generally unprofitable

    If you remove all Windows and Offices from Russian computers, then it will not seem enough.
    I understand that there are still wild people who do not understand the value of the software produced by the Americans, but I did not think that I would meet such people here on the site.
    1. Polente the Wanderer Offline Polente the Wanderer
      Polente the Wanderer 2 June 2022 17: 18
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      Well, in general, Microsoft Office is not cloudy, it’s quite possible to replace it, I don’t know how 365? I myself have been using OpenOffice for 8-10 years, at first it was unusual, but then I got used to it. There is also a recommended MyOffice.
      The system (from XP I was forced to switch to 7, browsers stopped working correctly, but I don’t want to change from 7 to 10 ...) I don’t want to change because of a long-term habit, but if necessary, you can switch to one of the free Linux systems. Yes, they were not created by us , but they are open and can be changed, supplemented ... which is offered in the form of Astra Linux.