"Condemn in order to exchange." The strange denazification of Ukraine from the Russian Foreign Ministry


Before the first wave of passions played out around the fate of the militants and military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who surrendered at the Mariupol plant "Azovstal", the Russian diplomatic department was noted by a new statement, confusing everyone who is not indifferent to this topic.


It would seem that the issue of the exchange of those whose hands are up to their shoulders in the blood of civilians of Donbass and not only them is closed and is not subject to further discussion in principle. But no - it suddenly turns out that this is not so, and such a possibility is again voiced as quite real. Yes, and in such a wording, which causes not something to be taken aback, but a real shock.

What is this, some kind of joke?!


Excuse me, but this is the question that immediately comes to mind after reading the statement of the Deputy Foreign Minister of Russia Andrei Rudenko, which literally sounds like this:

All things will be considered after those who have surrendered will be appropriately condemned, they will be sentenced. Only then can there be some other steps. Until then, all talk of an exchange is premature.

Excuse me, but how do you order to understand this?! With all due respect to Mr. Rudenko and the organization he represents, everything said is nonsense, absurdity of the purest water! In order to avoid accusations of unfounded and harsh statements, I will try to consider in as much detail as possible why.

First of all, even the conditional assumption of the possibility of “sending home” those characters who spent two months in the factory basements, hiding behind a human shield of civilians and trying to the last to kill the soldiers of the Liberation forces, completely devalues ​​the very idea of ​​a tribunal or trial in any other shape above them. Literally multiplies it by zero in every sense. Let's start with the fact that in this case we are not talking about petty thieves, hooligans, or even soldiers of the enemy army who ended up in its ranks on mobilization, but on the front line who found themselves against their own will. Non-humans who have committed many war crimes, as well as other serious crimes against life, health, other rights, freedoms and interests of citizens of both Ukraine and the Donbass republics, should be in the dock. The verdict against such subjects should be as severe as possible - otherwise it will not be a verdict, but a mockery of both their victims and those fighters who, including at the cost of their own lives, smoked this evil from the dungeons of Azovstal.

In addition, they are the embodiment of just that vile and evil force, because of which the special operation to denazify Ukraine was launched - the militants of the Nazi unit "Azov", recognized in Russia as an extremist and terrorist organization, whose activities are prohibited. If at least a bit of condescension or “mercy” completely inappropriate in this particular case is shown to these characters, then we will have to admit that all the talk about “denazification” is nothing but a bluff, fiction and eyewash of the purest water. Well, if they are pardoned and exchanged, releasing them to freedom, then what should be done with the rest of the soldiers of the Kyiv regime - give them vouchers for sanatorium treatment? And in general - what can be the release from the punishment of THESE?! Sending them to Ukraine, which remains under the control of the Kyiv regime, is like releasing Chikatilo. Moreover, according to the amnesty announced in honor of Children's Day...

It just doesn't fit in my head. Here, rather, a decision should have been made that the verdict on the scoundrels be passed on the territory of the Donetsk or Lugansk republics. That is, where, fortunately, in the criminal law there is such a measure of punishment as the death penalty. Hoping that someone has the courage and political the will to restore it in Russia, at least for the time of the NWO and exclusively for war criminals, is hardly worth it. It was only Stalin, who was striving for the complete abolition of the death penalty, who at one time “honored” the Nazi bastards and their faithful servants by introducing hanging into the USSR, since even execution by execution was too easy for them. In any case, even under the current Russian legislation, the vast majority of "Azov" have every chance of life imprisonment. Well, what the hell can be after this "exchange"?!

Give ukroreyhu new heroes?


Moreover, the defendants themselves, knowing that they are about to return to "nenka", will definitely not give truthful testimony and repent of their own atrocities, hoping in this way to save their miserable skins. In this case, such behavior will just be deadly for them. On the contrary, they will prefer to turn the trial, on which Russia already has high hopes in terms of propaganda, into a natural farce, into a demonstration of their own “unbending firmness” shown to the “Moskal executioners”. Tribunal, in the hall of which this pillowcase will start yelling “fat-dropped”, otherwise it will also start zigging? It's hardly a good idea. And this is just one aspect of this issue. If (God forbid!) the exchange still takes place, the infamous "Azov" will undoubtedly return home in the halo of "heroes" and "martyrs". They will become figures of worship, models for inheritance and, worst of all, the core for the formation of more and more Nazi battalions.

So is it worth giving the Ukrainian “nedoreich” a new banner, which will be used by its authorities and propagandists not even 100, but 1000%? Moreover, such mistakes have already been made. An example is the Crimean terrorist Oleg Sentsov, who was released home. Since the beginning of the SVO, ukroSMI has been excitedly replicating the following stories about this organism:

Ukrainian director and former prisoner of the Kremlin Oleg Sentsov joined the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the first days of Russia's war against Ukraine!

And also savored his "front-line revelations":
For several days now I have been on the front line, where our unit was transferred to strengthen the direction, where the enemy is constantly trying to break through to Kyiv. I learned how to build a dugout and live in a trench, mastered a machine gun and a grenade launcher, became an NLAW operator, I'm waiting for a meeting with a Horde tank...

Well, he waited for this meeting or not - this is unknown. But there are no “heroes” of this character in the martyrology constantly updated by Kyiv. There are also no new “patriotic” stuffing from his side, which suggests that he is already quite far from both the “front line” and Ukraine as a whole. However, this nonentity managed to play its role in dill propaganda. So then - a crappy director, and here are the whole "heroes" of "Azovstal"! There is no doubt that the effect of their return will be many times stronger and much more “long-lasting”. How picturesquely the Kalyns and Volyns in the company of Radishes will tell about their "suffering" and "fortitude" - all akyns with bards and minstrels will envy. At the same time, there is no doubt that one of the most juicy moments in these sagas and ballads will be the depiction of the “unbearable bullying and unimaginable tortures” that they had to endure in full in the terrible prisons and dungeons of Mordor. And somewhere in the UN they will trample to “testify” about the use by Russia of “unlawful methods of conducting an investigation” and “violation of the Geneva Convention”. If they let them in, of course. But something tells me they will. They will also be welcomed with open arms.

In a word, the removal of these characters from places of detention at least a day, at least an hour earlier than the term measured by the court (which, as I said above, should be life in the most humane case) will negate all the propaganda and psychological effect as the most expected the tribunal, and everything that preceded it: the heroic assault on Mariupol, the siege of Azovstal itself, the epic surrender of those who swore to “stand to the last”, and so on. The military skill and valor shown by the Russian army, as well as the mercy of its soldiers, will be crossed out by politicians pursuing interests that seem completely incomprehensible even to themselves. Nobility will look like weakness, and victory will turn into an absurd defeat.

It is very likely that in Russia it is time to introduce severe liability for state officials who make resonant statements that discredit the meaning and essence, goals and objectives of the special military operation now being carried out. And by and large - and the entire state policy of the country. It is clear that they should not be imprisoned, and even posts for the wrong place and the wrong time to rashly deprive the words spoken in the heat of the moment is also, perhaps, not worth it. However, there must be some kind of incentive for the information space of the country to stop hearing things that bring hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Russians into a state of, let's say, cognitive dissonance and disorientate them about what is happening.

Or is it not disorienting, but preparing for the inevitable?! Against the background of all that has been said above, it looks extremely alarming that, for some completely incomprehensible reason, the State Duma of Russia suddenly “paused” the adoption of the resolution proposed by Anatoly Wasserman on the categorical ban on the exchange of “Azovites” for anyone and whenever whatever it was. This document, the approval of which cannot but be considered the most urgent need, was planned to be considered as early as May 18. However, for some reason this did not happen. As Andrey Krasov, the first deputy chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee, said, "work is currently underway on the draft resolution." What else is there to improve? I don't want to think that in this way time simply drags on - exactly until the moment when this initiative loses all meaning. It is better to believe in the words of the head of the Donetsk People's Republic, Denis Pushilin, who unequivocally stated that every single one of the prisoners from Azovstal would be tried by a tribunal. Moreover, most likely, on the territory of the DPR and according to its laws. Any other scenario would be a completely unforgivable mistake.
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  1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 26 May 2022 09: 08
    +7
    death to ukrofascist nonhumans! exchange of only those soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who were not involved in the atrocities
    1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
      Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 26 May 2022 09: 45
      +5
      I am sure that any soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is already a criminal and a murderer, or at least an accomplice and accomplice in murders! All attempts and actions to release these criminals are a disgrace to the current authorities! This will lead to even more severe consequences for Russia.
      1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 26 May 2022 10: 17
        0
        I agree, but ours must be rescued from fascist captivity
        1. vik669 Offline vik669
          vik669 (vik669) 30 May 2022 13: 02
          0
          Rescuing does not mean changing normal men to this one, there are other ways of rescuing, but ...!
          1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 30 May 2022 14: 42
            0
            prisoners of war need to be sorted, some fascists should be executed, those who surrendered voluntarily should be involved in the restoration work and cleaning of fascist corpses, and there are those who can be exchanged in order to rescue our guys
      2. berezinp Offline berezinp
        berezinp (Pavel Berezin) 26 May 2022 10: 17
        -5
        We will exchange you for our guys so that your gut feels like in Ukrainian captivity...
        1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
          Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 26 May 2022 12: 13
          +4
          “We will exchange you ..”, and who is “we”? Yes, I agree, let's change me for our guys! Let's! Take action! My gut has never let me down and feels, thousands of kilometers away, that you are a cowardly hare. And our guys need to be rescued from captivity in other ways. Only our generals do not want to use these methods ... and not only generals ...
  2. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 26 May 2022 09: 41
    +4
    Alexander! How right you are unfortunately! (((My gut feels that all these criminals and murderers will be put on the brakes by the current authorities ... no one will actually serve a life sentence to the end, they will not shoot or hang anyone ... but they imprison their own for nothing and for nothing.
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  3. Mikhail Novikov Offline Mikhail Novikov
    Mikhail Novikov (Mikhail Novikov) 26 May 2022 09: 59
    0
    The author of the article is deliberate nonsense. The prisoners will be judged according to their "merit", and their further treatment will depend on the specific sentences. There is no point in driving a muddy wave, misrepresenting the meaning of the statements of the Foreign Ministry and absolutizing your opinion.
  4. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 26 May 2022 10: 12
    +4
    Come on. Does anyone believe that the authorities will play fair for the people to the last comma?
    They have their own intrigues and business.
    and it will not be officials who will be judged for their intrigues, but who climbed against them ...
  5. berezinp Offline berezinp
    berezinp (Pavel Berezin) 26 May 2022 10: 15
    0
    There, our boys are tortured every day! Let us exchange you for our guys, sit instead of them.
    1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
      Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 26 May 2022 10: 26
      +2
      If I were instructed to shoot, or chop off heads, or hang these ukrofascists, then I would be happy to do this ... I would work on a voluntary basis in two shifts))).
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  6. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 26 May 2022 10: 35
    +5
    It seems to me that in the Russian power circles there is a very strong outskirts lobby, that’s why all these muddy statements
    1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
      Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 26 May 2022 10: 51
      -1
      Still would! Matviyenko, Kozak, Kiriyenko .... there are people like a fool's shag ...)
  7. likas Offline likas
    likas (likas tyrlo) 26 May 2022 11: 23
    +6
    the author either forgot how to listen, or read .... or emotions ahead of the brain ....
    the Ministry of Foreign Affairs wrote
    1. Condemn (hold a trial with the ensuing consequences, distribute to each according to their deserts) and then, after 25 years of camps, decide something ...
    2. After the trial, checked for non-involvement in the atrocities ... already make a decision on some next steps ..
    What did the author not like here?
  8. Zenn Offline Zenn
    Zenn (Andrei) 26 May 2022 11: 49
    +4
    And why be surprised, Putin V.V. out of considerations of humanity, Khodorkovsky was also released, and now Khodorkovsky is doing his best to show "humanity" towards Russia, Putin and all of Russia.
    An apple does not fall far from an apple tree, and the fish rots from the head, so I suppose Rudenko did not voice his own words.
    1. Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
      Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) 31 May 2022 18: 44
      0
      I think you are right. This is voiced on behalf of that shobla, which earnestly yells at the West that they have been handed over to him in body and soul. And they are ready to sell everything and everything, if only the West would appreciate their devotion to him.
  9. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 26 May 2022 12: 27
    +5
    It must be remembered that among our diplomats, three-quarters are dissatisfied with the NWO, and if they could, they would sign a capitulation to the West in any form. The mere deprivation of long-term foreign business trips is worth something.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 26 May 2022 14: 15
      0
      Yes, one such scoundrel is now promoted in the Western media.
    2. Ferryman Offline Ferryman
      Ferryman 28 May 2022 18: 57
      0
      As for the diplomats: Did you personally count? Or is it a habit - to grind with your tongue? However, like the author of the article
  10. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 26 May 2022 12: 29
    +1
    Quote: Dzenn
    Putin V.V. for reasons of humanity and Khodorkovsky released

    Oh! Khodorkovsky served only 130 out of 122 months.
  11. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 26 May 2022 13: 08
    +4
    It's hard for me to understand the logic of the article.
    We want to exchange our soldiers who were taken prisoner?
    Personally, I think that the exchange is a good thing.

    Since there are significantly fewer of our prisoners than the surrendered soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, what prevents us from selecting those who have least stained themselves with crimes against the civilian population and have not been noted in the torture of our soldiers and officers?

    As far as I understand, this is the procedure.
    The author's fantasies are not interesting for me to read. Already got the constant "horrors" composed by the "authors".
  12. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 26 May 2022 13: 17
    +1
    Why is the respected Author not at all interested in the fate of Russian prisoners of war, who cannot be released without an exchange?
    By the way: in addition to the director N. Sentsov, who was released on exchange, there was also an ardent Ukrainian patriot N. Savchenko - who, after her release, was already ... in a Ukrainian prison.
    Diplomats: that's what diplomats are for, so as not to chop off the shoulder!
  13. Irina Offline Irina
    Irina (irina) 26 May 2022 15: 38
    -1
    we have more than 4000 prisoners. Nazis, after popular indignation, promised not to change. and our diplomats and the Medinskys and the Peskovs from time to time give out an indistinct blizzard, which unnerves everyone, but is unlikely to be realized.
  14. InanRom Offline InanRom
    InanRom (Ivan) 26 May 2022 18: 15
    0
    What kind of exchanges of non-human Nazis can there be?! There are vushniks, teroborontsy - so exchange them for ours. And the "Azov", "Aida" and so on. one way is to the grave.
    Meanwhile, “arrivals” on Russian territory are becoming an everyday reality, and their frequency is constantly increasing:

    17.40 The shelling of the UAF of the village of Zhuravlyovka continues all day long, a woman is wounded - the governor of the Belgorod region.

    "Another enemy attack on Tetkino, which took place at dawn, unfortunately ended in tragedy. At the moment, at least one civilian death is known," wrote Governor of the Kursk Region Roman Starovoit.

    и

    13.30 The outskirts of the village of Vorobzha were attacked by the enemy, several houses and a school were damaged - the governor of the Kursk region.

    in response - another "correspondence":

    The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation asked in absentia to issue a sanction for the arrest of the head of pre-trial detention center No. 13 in Kyiv (“Lukyanovskaya Prison”) Alexander Balduk, accused of torturing prisoners of war - Savelovsky Court of Moscow.

    In the meantime:

    The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation postponed for a month (until June 29) the consideration of the case on the recognition of the Ukrainian national battalion "Azov" as a terrorist organization. The case will be considered behind closed doors, as it is marked "secret".

    what is there to postpone? and which one is closed? can also justify gathered?! It is clear to any normal person that the "basics" are Nazis, fascists, terrorists and criminals .... but the court has some "deposits" in recognizing the obvious ?!
    plus the repayment of debts to those who robbed you continues?:

    “We will offer a tool so that all holders of our debt can receive their interest,” he said.
    The head of the Ministry of Finance stressed that Russia is a reliable borrower and therefore the Russian Federation will look for all possible options for continuing payments on external debts under sanctions.

    and another "blizzard" from the mustache:

    "Moscow is waiting for Kyiv to accept Moscow's demands and realize the de facto situation, the real situation that exists," Peskov said, answering a question about what concessions Moscow expects from Kyiv.
    “These are not territorial concessions. Kyiv needs, I repeat once again, to recognize the de facto situation and just soberly assess,” Peskov said, answering the question of whether this also applies to territorial concessions.

    well, all the "decision-making centers" are all waiting and can't wait for the promised strikes ...
    1. InanRom Offline InanRom
      InanRom (Ivan) 26 May 2022 21: 47
      +1
      Nothing strange, just DAM purges:

      According to him, now is an extreme time and colleagues from the government are working a lot "from the wheels", adopting endless resolutions, TASS reports.
      “But at the same time, we cannot destroy the fabric of the all-Russian market and the principles of work in the market. We are not creating a second State Planning Commission, we do not have a planned economy. It is for this reason that we can say that the basic market laws should remain with certain changes,” he explained.
      Medvedev is convinced that “general rules must remain,” because otherwise we will go to the other extreme and then we will have war communism.
      “But we don’t need war communism, we are a modern country, and no matter what they say about us, we want to develop according to normal laws,” summed up the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation.

      did he even understand what he said? It looks like a signal to the West - let's "be friends" again, we are supposedly normal, modern, correct ?! No planning required? great! go ahead, as God puts on the soul. Already one "import substitution" has been replaced for so many years that it seems that no one needed it. And we have what we have. He should also suggest that the General Staff should be abolished - why plan the NWO, let the market destroy it, and indeed, we are "normal", "modern" and in general "the general rules should remain" unchanged, so "guys," dear Western partners and colleagues " let's live in peace?!. You can't sit on two chairs, just like you can't be half pregnant. But, someone keeps trying. While the Russian army is fighting the Nazis.
    2. Ferryman Offline Ferryman
      Ferryman 28 May 2022 18: 55
      0
      Do you distinguish between the phrases "closed case" and "closed court"? And they wrote a lot of letters
  15. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 26 May 2022 18: 35
    0
    The ruling Demshiza is still more likely to hang herself than deal with the Nazis normally ... They are the same in spirit as anti-communists, enemies of the Russians ... The difference in the number of monuments demolished and the method of punishing left-wing opponents / although the murder of Rokhlin, the tank coup of the drunk in 93, has not disappeared /. To judge only in the Donbass, it would be ideal to hang it according to folk custom ... Otherwise, the snot is already wiped off - the mother of the fascist is going through, the wife is bored ...
  16. Nikolai Pigin Offline Nikolai Pigin
    Nikolai Pigin (Nikolai Pigin) 26 May 2022 19: 17
    0
    If they surrendered to the mercy of the winner, this is not a reason to treat everyone with the same brush .. to be mean .. Only Exchange. The life of our guys is more expensive !!!
    1. cooper Offline cooper
      cooper (Alexander) 27 May 2022 01: 39
      -1
      You go try to cry that way to the inhabitants of the torn apart Donbass.
  17. faterdom Offline faterdom
    faterdom (Andrei) 26 May 2022 20: 33
    +4
    Someone up there is twitching, as if he is trying water with his foot.
    Now through Medinsky, then through Slutsky, now through the Foreign Ministry ...
    No need, comrades, gentlemen, otherwise you will have to run after Zelensky ... Decide already whether you are with the people or back and forth, we write there, but here you wrapped the fish?
    The people have no options - they need to survive, and this will be their elite, or another - it's not so important.
    Russia can exist without Medinsky, just as it exists today without Khamatova. But Khamatova is crying that somehow she’s not the right one ...
  18. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 27 May 2022 01: 37
    0
    This name would not be dishonored. Roman Andreevich Rudenko - Prosecutor General of the USSR, chief prosecutor from the USSR at the Nuremberg Trials, demanded severe punishment for Nazi war criminals.
  19. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
    Kofesan (Valery) 27 May 2022 04: 57
    0
    Selection on those whose hands are up to the elbows in blood (this was shot) and on those who "fell under the distribution" would be useful. The latter are a minority. Exchange for Russian prisoners by one and "gilyak" by another. Perhaps that is why the vast majority of the "harness" forces of the non-state Wu are kept in the LDNR. Everything is logical...
  20. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 27 May 2022 08: 38
    0
    Here we are all laughing at European officials who ruined the energy of countries for the sake of green energy, and we ourselves have such empty-headed fools through the roof, who induce confusion with their mouths. They look like officials from Sri Lanka, who banned farmers from buying fertilizer, and now in the country of House.
    Starting from Peskov and ending with smaller politicians such as Elena Mizulina (daughter of a senator) or Misha Degtyarev, whose behavior makes their eyes pop out of their sockets, who do not understand at all how they ended up in key positions in our country (although it is clear that they occupy their posts not because of their professional qualities, but in terms of loyalty to the top), I hope this one will make its own adjustments and these "misunderstandings" will resign their powers and dump them away from Russia
  21. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) 27 May 2022 08: 49
    +1
    Quote from berezinp
    There, our boys are tortured every day! Let us exchange you for our guys, sit instead of them.

    Strain your logic or seek help from someone who can.
    We now have under 8000 captured ukrovoyaks, ranging from the teroboronists to the flayers from Azov, and Ukraine has a maximum of 500 of our prisoners. Don't you think it's logical to exchange vushnikov not stained with atrocities for our guys (even if all for all), and condemn the criminals?
  22. Awaz Offline Awaz
    Awaz (Walery) 28 May 2022 05: 31
    0
    in the Armed Forces of Ukraine now, 99 percent of the soldiers are criminals, because they carried out criminal orders or, out of their own free will, because of impunity, committed crimes. Again, many points cannot be proved, and therefore I do not think that one should run hard in front of the locomotive and start to hysteria. I agree that our authorities are corrupt and for the sake of some momentary approval from "partners" they can commit any stupidity and even a crime (to release a convicted murderer is punishable by the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), but it seems to me that they will change, but there will be small sixes or , as an example, the same Volyn or these two Englishmen, it was not in vain that the topic went about the fact that they were threatened by a "tower"
    And personally, I would suggest to the generals of the Armed Forces of Ukraine the topic of exchanging captured soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for high-ranking officials from the Ukrainian authorities: well, for example, 1000 prisoners for Zelensky, 100 for Poroshenko, 10 for Lyusya .. For each governor, too, 10. You look and people will return home and there will be someone to hang, and in the Ukrainian Defense Ministry there are already enough people who want to get even with this company
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  24. Russian Bear_2 Offline Russian Bear_2
    Russian Bear_2 (Russian bear) 31 May 2022 07: 18
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    It would not hurt to carry out a good purge of traitors in the Foreign Ministry.