Why Russia should not be delayed with the liberation of Odessa and Nikolaev


While on the Eastern Front the affairs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are beginning to take on an increasingly bad turn, on the Western Front a serious problem is brewing for the Armed Forces and the Navy of the Russian Federation. Apparently, the collective West intends to tightly cling to and hold on to the hero city of Odessa, even at the cost of a direct clash with Russia.


According to the British edition of the Times, UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss supported the idea of ​​Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis to send warships to Odessa in order to “de-blockade” it:

Our source said that Truss fully supports the idea of ​​sending British warships to escort grain ships from Odessa.

It is assumed that in order to accomplish this task, the NATO bloc can create an entire international coalition, to which everyone is invited to join. Everything is done under the most plausible pretext of helping the starving countries of the Third World, according to Landsbergis:

What we see now is just the beginning. The worst is yet to come. People in North Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia will pay exorbitant prices for wheat.

But we allow ourselves not to believe in the altruism of European politicians. The open secret is that all food grains have long been exported from Ukraine. This happened at an accelerated pace in February 2022, shortly before the start of the Russian special operation, as if our “Western partners” knew in advance that war was inevitable. Now Nezalezhnaya is exported on a daily basis the remains of feed grain, which is grown to feed livestock, corn, sunflower and other crops. For this, all the transit capacities of neighboring Poland and Moldova are involved, involuntarily reminding eyewitnesses of 1941.

It turns out that Ukrainian grain and “help to the hungry” are just a plausible pretext, and nothing more. What is London really trying to put together an international coalition for the next Black Sea campaign against Russia?

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What is happening should be perceived in the context of the confrontation between Russia and the collective West, which uses Ukraine as an anti-Russian battering ram. On the one hand, after the loss of the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov, the preservation of port Odessa and Nikolaev is the key to survival for Nezalezhnaya. Without maritime trade, the Zelenskiy regime is doomed to a rapid fall for purely economic reasons. On the other hand, after the transfer of Crimea, the DPR and LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions under the hands of Moscow, the destruction of the British naval base in Ochakovo, Odessa remained the last stronghold of the collective West on the Black Sea coast of the former Nezalezhnaya.

On instructions from London, namely the UK now playing first fiddle in the conflict with Russia instead of the United States, President Zelensky launched a process to start Integration Ukraine with Poland within the framework of the conditional "Rzeczpospolita - 3.0". The British deliberately let Warsaw go ahead in order to look at Moscow's reaction and assess the limits of what is permitted. Through a hypothetical Ukrainian-Polish confederation, which is becoming more and more realistic, the NATO bloc can gain a foothold in the Northern Black Sea region. Port Odessa, which is also the key to solving the problem of Transnistria, is turning into a critical point where the interests of too many parties converge.

The collective West is not going to give Odessa to us without a fight. Unfortunately, the more time passes, the higher will be the price of her release.

At first, the NATO bloc did everything to make the landing operation of the Russian Navy impossible. First, the Saratov large landing ship was irretrievably lost in the port of Berdyansk, and several other landing ships were damaged. Then, under unofficial circumstances, the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, the Moskva missile cruiser, which could provide an air defense umbrella during this most difficult operation, died. Now it is reported that the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in addition to their Neptune anti-ship missiles, may receive American Harpoon anti-ship missiles or even more dangerous Norwegian-made missiles. Also, according to unconfirmed reports, Kyiv received from the United States an MQ-9 Reaper reconnaissance and strike drone, which is capable of performing target designation and guidance tasks.

The presence of such weapons in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and even with NATO military experts who have the right to serve in them, makes it extremely dangerous for Russian warships to approach the Ukrainian coast. We can draw a disappointing conclusion that a real landing operation near Odessa, and not its imitation, is practically excluded. Moreover, now our Black Sea Fleet will be constantly under the guns of long-range anti-ship missiles, and the naval blockade of Odessa will turn out to be very symbolic.

Secondly, contrary to idle reasoning, we will not be able to prevent the entry of foreign warships into the port of Odessa by lethal means, except for exhortations. It should be taken into account that Russia is not legally in a state of war either with Great Britain, or with the USA, or with Poland, or with Ukraine itself, we have a special operation. Turkey closed its straits to the passage of warships purely on its own initiative. Nothing will prevent her from letting the ships of the British Navy or, say, the Polish Navy into the Black Sea in the framework of the Montreux Convention.

An attempt by the Russian Navy or the Russian Aerospace Forces to sink, say, a British destroyer will just be the reason for declaring war with the NATO bloc, where we will automatically be declared an aggressor with all the ensuing consequences. An attempt by another Defender to violate Russian maritime borders in Crimea has every chance of developing into an armed clash with Great Britain, and then with the entire North Atlantic Alliance. This is probably one of the options that Downing Street has in mind.

Can this be avoided? Domestic military experts advise resorting to the method of mining the water area in the Odessa region, having warned the “Western partners” about this in advance. The idea is good, but how to do it under the guns of long-range anti-ship missiles? It is obvious that the fleet is now taking a step back in the operation to liberate Odessa, which will take place only on land. And it is advisable not to delay this, otherwise the stakes in the game will grow even more, and the cost of a mistake will eventually become unacceptable.
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  1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 25 May 2022 10: 31
    +15
    Moreover, my personal opinion is that the liberation of Odessa (the largest port) and Nikolaev (the flagship of the combat shipbuilding of the USSR and a major port) should have been originally planned as a priority task of the RF Armed Forces. And why this did not happen is probably a mystery not only to me.
    1. Muscool Offline Muscool
      Muscool (Glory) 25 May 2022 12: 34
      +14
      Why-why. Yes, because initially the plan was that as soon as the troops entered 404, everyone would crap, throw off Zelensky and run to negotiate on our terms.
      How else to explain this breakthrough to Kyiv, clearly unfinished forces for the blockade, assault and leaving strong garrisons already in the territory passed.
      Initially, a lot of turbidity was incomprehensible, we will denazify Ukraine, but we will not touch the thistle gang that made this mess, these are "dear partners" and the goal of overthrowing the government is not worth it, is that how it is?
      Demilitarization, we will liberate the Donbas, we will break the VFU. And in the rest of Ukraine, Ukrainians themselves, at our request, should melt guns into bicycles?
      I personally don’t understand a damn thing what’s going on and what the plan is and whether there is one at all.
    2. Yuriy88 Offline Yuriy88
      Yuriy88 (Yuri) 25 May 2022 19: 28
      +7
      in general reasoning, I will not argue with the "3rd red diploma student" .. Well, he has some opinions of his own, so what? He talks about obvious things .. Ukraine did not have a fleet at the World Cup, we almost did not have .. The old "Moscow" and a bunch of boats .. Therefore, Russia has nothing to sink! .. "Boats" (frigates - corvettes or something) and launch Caliber, as before .. The entire operation in Odessa and Nikolaev is most likely from land, by land .. So no American-Norwegian anti-ship missiles will be useful, and, conversely, from the coast of Crimea, from the accessible coast, you can to fire at NATO ships (bring it!) with our anti-ship missiles, as well as aircraft .. The loss of one or 2 ships will immediately cool the ardor .. And if the war with NATO completely unfolds in breadth, then what does Ukraine have to do with it .. ?! Ukraine will simply sink No one will feel sorry for her.
    3. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 25 May 2022 20: 26
      +3
      Quote: k7k8
      Moreover, my personal opinion is that the liberation of Odessa (the largest port) and Nikolaev (the flagship of the combat shipbuilding of the USSR and a major port) should have been originally planned as a top priority for the RF Armed Forces.

      support! I personally initially thought that the main strikes in the first place should have been on Odessa and Lvov (from Belarus) and now I think the same
    4. Awaz Offline Awaz
      Awaz (Walery) 26 May 2022 20: 24
      +3
      there was initially no plan for the liberation of either Nikolaev or Odessa or Kherson. Read and listen to what our native Russian supreme authorities said in the early days. They didn't want to release anything. They even thought about Kherson for a long time what to do and did not change the Ukrainian authorities there until the war went seriously. Troops along the perimeter of Ukraine were introduced only so that the Armed Forces of Ukraine could not transfer all their forces to Donetsk and Lugansk and prevent the LDNR forces from developing the offensive. The scenario for the development of the situation was built, or we quickly liberate the LDNR to the borders or under the guise, the Zelensky regime is frightened and a coup is taking place in Kyiv, which the guys dug in at the Antonov airfield, in Gostomel, should have supported with bayonets. As a result, nothing happened, and even foolishly, the troops went deep into the territory, for which they paid with sabotage in the rear and a bunch of captured and killed soldiers.
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 29 May 2022 20: 42
        +1
        But while ours were standing near Kyiv, no one shelled the territory of Russia, and after Medinsky surrendered everything, shelling began.
        1. Awaz Offline Awaz
          Awaz (Walery) 30 May 2022 20: 43
          0
          medinsky then where? It doesn't solve anything at all... Lord. The troops were withdrawn from near Kyiv because they suffered useless losses there, and every day more and more. Saboteurs constantly tormented the rear and supply lines. It was immediately necessary to leave there, as soon as it became clear that the coup would not take place, that is, there was no one to make it. since the plan of the operation failed and everything began to develop in a situation for which, as we saw, our authorities and the military turned out to be unprepared, and for a long time and painfully they came up with what to do to get out of the shit without serious image losses. Well, they thought that it would be better to withdraw troops from both the left and right banks of the Dnieper near Kyiv. Negotiations was one of the options to somehow get out of everything that was brewed. But even there things did not go according to plan. Since few forces have been gathered and there is no way to replenish them, and the front is huge and difficult battles are going on everywhere, so we decided to focus on the "cauldron" around the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Luhansk-Izyum-Donetsk region. Again, having warned the enemy in advance from where they would strike and giving them time to create lines of defense and accumulate resources .. And the shelling of Russian territory is already completely on the conscience of the Russian authorities, who withdrew all forces from the border territories and did not even create any, although there would be mobile forces to repel and shelling and attempts to cross the borders. Then, however, already when the shelling intensified, something stirred,. But that's the point. The second day, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are working in all front-line settlements and in Donetsk, killing civilians and will do it every day, and all this will go on and on .. The RF Armed Forces do not have the technical capabilities to stop this .. Why? Well, because the parades ..
  2. Oleg_5 Offline Oleg_5
    Oleg_5 (Oleg) 25 May 2022 10: 38
    0
    United Kingdom not planning station warships in the Black Sea to unblock the supply of Ukrainian grain, the country's defense ministry said.
    Earlier, the Times newspaper, citing a diplomatic source, reported that British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss supported the idea of ​​creating a coalition of countries that would deal with unblocking supplies of Ukrainian grain.
  3. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 10: 38
    +2
    An attempt by the Russian Navy or the Russian Aerospace Forces to sink, say, a British destroyer, will just be the reason for declaring war with the NATO bloc, where we will automatically be declared the aggressor with all the ensuing consequences.

    With what consequences? Will new sanctions be announced to us?
  4. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 10: 40
    +1
    An attempt by another Defender to violate Russian maritime borders in Crimea has every chance of developing into an armed clash with Great Britain, and then with the entire North Atlantic Alliance. This is probably one of the options that Downing Street has in mind.

    That is, the UK creates the conditions for a nuclear war? Do you really think so?
  5. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 10: 49
    +4
    In my opinion, nothing needs to be done, especially urgently.
    Suppose the Turks launch NATO warships into the Black Sea.
    So what?
    As the author himself writes, all grain and other products have long been exported from Ukraine.
    Let's assume that part of the grain will be taken out through Odessa under the escort of NATO ships.
    So what?
    For example, I am absolutely sure that British ships will not interfere in the operation to liberate the Odessa region by Russian troops and fleet.
    Because it will entail a nuclear bombing of the UK.

    All these are petty dirty tricks, which the small British are so much into. Raise a wave in the media, provoke any unnecessary actions for the sake of public opinion, etc.
    1. Valentine Offline Valentine
      Valentine (Valentin) 25 May 2022 17: 22
      -3
      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      For example, I am absolutely sure that British ships will not interfere in the operation to liberate the Odessa region by Russian troops and fleet.

      And I fully support you, but only on one condition, that we need a very "small nuclear precedent" to which this whole collective European swarm is simply forcing us, "and they will constantly draconize us, crushing an independent one - to be bombed with small charges of tactical nuclear weapons nearby with the border of Poland, in Galicia, thereby stopping all delivery of weapons to the Bandera regime, and attempts by NATO countries to penetrate its territory, and only after that no one else will decide on some kind of escalation with Russia in its zone of influence, because after this they will think hard about "no matter what happens" more apocalyptic, and we have no other way out, otherwise they will simply devour us, and then, the question is, why do we need all this "weapon of deterrence" then, because for the time has come for him - we are completely under the noose of the "anaconda loop", and it will only get worse, and we are all chewing snot, while our neighbor is turning into the "Fourth Reich", pumped up with weapons and "internationalist warriors" from all countries Europe and USA .
      1. Vermont Offline Vermont
        Vermont (Aslan Tsoutiev) 26 May 2022 04: 26
        +3
        Quote: Valentine
        we need a very "small nuclear precedent", to which this whole collective European gang is simply forcing us, "and they will constantly draconize us, crushing the undepleted under them, bombing with small charges of tactical nuclear weapons near the border of Poland

        Of course, I respect you very much for such "drastic measures" using nuclear weapons, but it seems to me that you do not take into account some facts a little. This is China. China, of course, supports Russia now, but ... I'm not sure that China will like a nuclear strike on the territory from which it buys a large amount of grain. After the poisoning of this territory with nuclear products, there will be no such opportunity there. And secondly, China also probably understands that the beginning of the use of nuclear weapons will bring the world to the 3rd world "nuclear" war, in which no "neutrality" will sit on the sidelines, because everything will be destroyed, including China. And therefore, I strongly suspect that in the case of the use of nuclear weapons by Russia, China will actively join the sanctions and become against Russia. Well, if we don't give a fuck about China, then it's another matter ....
        1. Valentine Offline Valentine
          Valentine (Valentin) 26 May 2022 05: 58
          -1
          Well, then we will continue to worry, and wave our Lavrov's finger, and they will turn us into North American Indians? Tell me a hypothetical way out of this "anaconda loop", or just a bow to Uncle Joe? Chubais, Kudrins and other liberals have long been ready for this, but we, as a nation, will soon disappear from the face of the earth.
    2. guest Offline guest
      guest 25 May 2022 21: 19
      0
      Perhaps NATO ships will not intervene, but they will be able to deliver a huge amount of weapons to Ukraine.
      1. GIS Offline GIS
        GIS (Ildus) 26 May 2022 09: 07
        -2
        but in this case, I agree with the commentators - definitely drown and destroy in the port
  6. mark1 Offline mark1
    mark1 25 May 2022 10: 58
    +1
    No need to avoid anything - drowning is revealing!
  7. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 10: 59
    +4
    In general, it is very strange that the numerous statements of NATO military and officials that they will in no case enter into a direct clash with the Russian Armed Forces pass by the author's eyes. Because they clearly understand that this is the beginning of a world nuclear war. And all these speculations

    the naval blockade of Odessa will be very symbolic.

    - it's just speculation.
    Now Odessa is blocked, and will be blocked when the time comes for the liberation of Odessa.
    Those who have studied history know that Great Britain rarely fights with its own hands. And the former Ukraine is not at all the case to risk its ships and people. Substituting Poland is possible.
    But after the sinking of a Polish ship or ships in the Black Sea, they will only introduce new sanctions. For example, wearing Budenovkas in Liverpool is banned.
    1. special correspondent (oleg) 25 May 2022 13: 40
      0
      I wonder how this "Polish ship" can find itself in the Black Sea? Will Romanian gypsies drag him across Romunia?
      1. GIS Offline GIS
        GIS (Ildus) 26 May 2022 09: 08
        +1
        they wrote "Erdogan can let in"
  8. Sydor Kovpak Offline Sydor Kovpak
    Sydor Kovpak 25 May 2022 11: 02
    0
    The adoption by Ukraine of laws on the special status of Poles in Ukraine, and Zelensky's announcement of his death, indicate that soon a NATO representative will officially rule Ukraine. Under any pretext (to export grain, etc.)
    Beginning of a new round.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 11: 10
      +2
      Ukraine will soon be officially ruled by a NATO representative

      Will something change? I don't think. So let the former Ukraine be ruled by at least the Nigerians. It will not be worse.
  9. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 25 May 2022 11: 22
    +3
    But what, Russian warships cannot go through the Bosphorus, but English can? England has already become a Black Sea country? To do this, it is necessary to expand 3 straits with the Sarmatians in order to connect the Black Sea with the Atlantic Ocean.
    Odessa will be taken from the shore, as Suvorov would have done with his miraculous heroes.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 11: 27
      +2
      Odessa will be taken from the shore.

      Naturally. You just have to look at the map. Where is Nikolaev, where is Transnistria. And it will become clear which side the RF Armed Forces will take. For what purpose an amphibious assault is needed is not very clear.
      1. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 25 May 2022 20: 28
        +1
        especially since the Russian Navy is unable to physically land troops due to the lack of anti-aircraft defense and anti-aircraft defense fleet
  10. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 11: 45
    0
    NATO will not be a party to the conflict in Ukraine, will not send troops there, as the alliance intends to avoid war with Russia, said NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.
  11. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
    EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 25 May 2022 12: 06
    0
    Does anyone really believe in an attack on Odessa? Those forces that are involved now? They have already mobilized 700 thousand heads and NATO is arming them to the full on the western border. They also provide intelligence. Of course, I don’t want to believe in their cries about how they will liberate all “their” territories by August, but they are preparing seriously. This cannot be ignored.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 12: 20
      +1
      I believe in the liberation of Nikolaev and Odessa. And before winter in the worst case.
      1. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
        EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 25 May 2022 12: 56
        +3
        Maybe you know something that others don't. Based on the current situation, this seems unrealistic.
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 13: 13
          +2
          And it seems obvious to me. It is based on the current situation. I'm not even afraid of the Clown's chatter about the millionth APU. It's just that the losses of the former Ukraine will be greater. Personally, I will survive it. With every day of the war, the proportion of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is changing for the better for us. The professional part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was mostly knocked out or surrendered. Yes, there is still enough cannon fodder, but this is not for long. This will become clear in the next two or three weeks. The turning point has occurred, just not everyone has understood it yet.
          1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
            Bulanov (Vladimir) 25 May 2022 13: 39
            -1
            Summon a million chefs? What kind of banquet is this?
          2. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
            EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 25 May 2022 14: 30
            -1
            Never a military man, but at the rate of NVP in high school, it seems, it was written that a minimum threefold superiority is necessary for an offensive. Now a lot depends on the technical equipment, but his "partners" are driving at an accelerated pace. I do not think that the equipment of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, supplied to replace the knocked out one, is in some way superior to what Ukraine receives. Advance on an army outnumbered without a technical advantage? What is it like?
          3. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
            EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 25 May 2022 15: 54
            -2
            New information (reliability questionable). Ukraine claims that the Russian Armed Forces have started using T-62 tanks. If this is true, then it is not from a good life. Although many photos from the scene show MTLB and BMP-1, which are not much newer. What's next?
          4. Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 25 May 2022 20: 33
            +2
            Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
            The turning point has occurred, just not everyone has understood it yet.

            it is clear that the turning point has already occurred (at Azovstal) and then the Armed Forces of Ukraine may simply start to scatter around the huts
        2. guest Offline guest
          guest 25 May 2022 21: 26
          -1
          And what is the current situation? And the situation is such that our troops are now fighting in the Donbass against the most combat-ready professional units of the Ukrainian army. After the victory in the Donbass, these troops will be released and will be able to fight in other areas, including Odessa.
  12. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 25 May 2022 12: 21
    +1
    Nothing will prevent her from letting the ships of the British Navy or, say, the Polish Navy into the Black Sea in the framework of the Montreux Convention.

    This is a direct violation of the Montreux Convention. Only if Turkey becomes a party to the conflict. Unlikely.
  13. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
    aslanxnumx (Aslan) 25 May 2022 12: 54
    0
    No one will fight with the British, the bulk of children, wives, grandchildren live in England. Our leaders, as always, will be preoccupied and blow bubbles.
  14. InanRom Offline InanRom
    InanRom (Ivan) 25 May 2022 14: 24
    +5
    Russia cannot be dragged out a lot of things, however, we have what we have:

    The Russian Armed Forces are able to solve problems on the western border of Ukraine in a fairly short time - it may take a couple of months, no more. But it is very difficult to understand how this will be decided from a political point of view. This includes shadow agreements that protect interests that are not related to the security of the Russian Federation.
    I can only say one thing: based on military logic, the administration of President Zelensky, the Verkhovna Rada, the General Staff, the leadership of the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine should have been destroyed a long time ago. The headquarters and control centers of the national battalions should be struck. Based on military logic, after the West started a full-scale war, gas supplies should be completely cut off. But none of this was done.

    Absolutely. How many have already been "fed" with promises about centers and strikes?

    Based on military logic, payments on Eurobonds should have been stopped, even all talk about this was stopped, especially since our money was stolen from us. None of this has been done yet.
    Based on the military logic and the situation that is developing in our country, ruble payments should be made in a completely different way than it is done now. In fact, dollars and euros are transferred to our bank, and we independently transfer them into rubles - this is a useless circus. We must buy for rubles in Europe plants, factories, licensed machines, which are vital for us. Then the West would receive rubles, which would pay us for our gas. And now, in fact, they continue to pay us in dollars.

    and the rising exchange rate of the ruble did reduce prices within the country, for everything that took off from food to housing and communal services, sometimes at times?! or the dollars received went to industrialization, and did not settle in storage, in anticipation of the next "gop-stop" of the West ?!

    There is a special operation, and Russian gas continues to be pumped to the west through the territory of Ukraine. We pay Ukraine three billion dollars for pumping this gas.

    Thus, funding the Ukronazi regime.

    So in these conditions it is difficult to say how the situation will develop. From a purely military point of view, two and a half, three months await us before the final victory on the fronts. But from a political point of view, it can drag on for a long time.
    Such a strange situation does not give grounds for optimism. I can say this: a week after the start of the special operation, we already bypassed Kyiv from the west. If it weren't for political games, the Kyiv-Kherson line could have cut off Western Ukraine from Eastern Ukraine. And after that, there would be no ammunition left in Eastern Ukraine, no opportunities for replenishment of personnel.
    I want to remind you that we only started hitting road and rail bridges a month ago, although this should have been done from the very beginning. Artillery and rocket strikes were to be carried out not only on the railway tracks, but also on the objects of the entire railway network. As before, little is being done to disorganize the Ukrainian rear. Without this disorganization, it will be impossible to make resistance from Ukraine pointless. And the harder the Russian army shoots, the more respectful they treat Russia." A. Shatilov, "Svobodnaya Pressa"

    Alas, it is not the army or the people who decides, and what is happening behind the scenes, one can only guess, but the results of the actions or inactions of politicians, officials and characters such as Medina, Slutsk, Sand and Abramovich and others like them, we observe, asking questions, Why is everything going the way it should?
    meanwhile, the Reapers arrived in Ukraine ....

    There was information that the United States handed over the MQ-9 Reaper strike drone to the Ukrainian military. As noted by the publication "Military Affairs" with reference to the Telegram channel "Militarist", the drone is located on the territory of Ukraine. It is reported by "The Rambler".

    and Danish anti-ship missiles:

    Lloyd Austin, US Secretary of Defense: "I am especially grateful to Denmark, which announced today that it will provide a Harpoon launcher and missiles to help Ukraine defend its coast." NTV

    Where are the blows to the notorious centers?!
    In the meantime:

    10.00 Governor of the Belgorod region Vyacheslav Gladkov: The authorities of the region took out about 550 residents of Zhuravlevka, Nekhoteevka and Solokhov, who were subjected to repeated shelling from Ukraine.
    1. Remigiusz Offline Remigiusz
      Remigiusz (Remigiusz) 25 May 2022 16: 20
      -1
      Shortly after Reuters released exclusive information that the White House intended to deploy advanced anti-ship missiles to Ukraine, a spokesman in Kyiv said the US was planning to sink the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

      - https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/05/21/us-drawing-up-plans-to-sink-the-russian-black-sea-fleet-ukrainian-official/
  15. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 25 May 2022 15: 24
    0
    Port Odessa, which is also the key to solving the problem of Transnistria, is turning into a critical point where the interests of too many parties converge.

    Everything is exactly like that. Putin, who believed the court intriguers (maybe he himself was deceived and is glad to be deceived), wanted to change the government in Kyiv and end the NWO on that. And the essence of Ukraine is in Odessa! If that attack on February 24.02.22, XNUMX had been applied correctly, then Odessa and the mouth of the Danube would have been under the control of the Russian Federation.
    But Putin's advisers are different. And not a single one answered for the failure of the first stage of the NWO. Ahead is the second, maybe the third, maybe not. Goal achieved, victory! They will tell us when Kramatorsk is liberated, you can finish the NWO.
    What to do, you say?
    Shred western Ukraine! They go to restaurants and drink kava. The entire Russian southeast is under attack, and there is peace and grace. Even the ways of transporting weapons are inviolable!
    Here's a riddle, right?
    And all the money. Dear partners from Kyiv, legitimate scumbags, but passing goods from the Russian Federation and, accordingly, roads are needed for friends from the Russian Federation.
  16. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 25 May 2022 17: 29
    0
    An attempt by the Russian Navy or the Russian Aerospace Forces to sink, say, a British destroyer will just be the reason for declaring war with the NATO bloc, where we will automatically be declared an aggressor with all the ensuing consequences ..

    )) do not be afraid of those who are afraid of you even more. The Russian Federation can easily destroy at least the entire fleet of England, and the clowns of England (NATO) will not declare war on the Russian Federation, because this is a guaranteed destruction of a small island.
    do not confuse their serious intentions with their show-offs, but the Britons went into the waters of the Crimea, but I’m sure it cost them a lot of fear, and after the Russian warning this will not happen again, NATO clowns are well aware that there are lines that the Russians are allowed to cross only once. and these are not empty Russian words (warnings), these words confirm the heavy losses of NATO in Syria, Ukraine, Georgia, Venezuela. plus they have preserved the memory of the inglorious confrontation with Soviet Russia (USSR) in Korea, Vietnam, Cuba
  17. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 25 May 2022 17: 34
    -1
    it’s just not worth rushing with the SVO, and the point is not only to avoid unnecessary losses, but also in the fact that Ukraine is fully supported by the West, hanging on their neck like a weight, and the West’s neck is already numb from impotence)), so soon this weight will be dropped and the Russian Federation will just have to kick it without getting dirty to roll it back to the dustbin of history
  18. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 25 May 2022 17: 40
    -1
    Does Odessa really need to shed “precious Russian blood” (Alexander III) for it? At this stage, the entire coast of Azov, the land corridor to the Crimea, and the Kakhovka Canal are quite enough. Until now, the DNR and LNR have not been cleared. Does Russia need a similar twine? I guess NO!
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 18: 12
      -3
      The DNR and LNR have not yet been cleared. Does Russia need such twine? I guess NO!

      You are absolutely right. First, help those who are struggling themselves, and then the rest. Cowards and opportunists let them line up.
    2. guest Offline guest
      guest 25 May 2022 21: 35
      +3
      That's just the next conflict in Transnistria is just around the corner, and here Odessa will be very useful. I'm not talking about the fact that the West can supply many times more weapons through the port of Odessa than it is possible to supply now. I'm not talking about the fact that Kherson and even Crimea will continue to be shelled from this territory.
  19. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 17: 56
    -6
    Quote: EVYN WIXH
    Advance on an army that outnumbers it without a technical advantage?

    Well, yes, it is not clear to the especially gifted (or hit) how to attack an army that is numerically superior.
    Well, the gifted or the hit one has never read history, and what is happening now is not deposited in his hit head. Well, "having no technical advantage" this one hit on the whole head lied a little.
    And what to do? A technical person is only familiar with a shovel. And even then he does not understand the difference between the soviet and the bayonet.
    1. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
      EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 26 May 2022 08: 48
      +3
      Going to insults is not a sign of a great mind. I was convinced that in some individuals behind the bright "rattles" a rather mediocre level is hidden (assessments are evidence of this). And as for the offensive... They say it will be in a month and a half... But not the RF Armed Forces. This is not my opinion. So says the same Strelkov (Girkin). Wait and see.
  20. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 25 May 2022 17: 57
    +2
    Does Odessa really need to shed “precious Russian blood” for it?

    Need. And Nikolaev needs the Danube. A large country needs critical territories. The price of the Odessa region in strategic thinking is ten times more important than the internal regions of the Russian Federation. And if you understand that people live there waiting for Russia (this is true!), Then hundreds of times!
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 18: 10
      -6
      Neither Odessa nor Nikolaev are strategically important territories for Russia. Generally. It is quite enough that their ports are blocked. People living in these cities will wait for Russia.
      They are quite adapted to the fascist regime. Their expectation is not worth a single extra life of a Russian soldier. Therefore, when it is convenient for Russia, then our army will come. And let the timid Odessans and syklivy Nikolaev residents satisfy the Nazis for now. That's all they can do.
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 25 May 2022 21: 42
        0
        Are you a great strategist?
  21. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 17: 59
    -3
    Quote: EVYN WIXH
    Ukraine claims that the Russian Armed Forces have started using T-62 tanks.

    Yes Yes. The Russian Armed Forces use stone-tipped spears. And with their help, they successfully beat the Armed Forces of Ukraine and take them prisoner.
  22. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 18: 21
    -6
    Quote: Teacher
    And the essence of Ukraine is in Odessa!

    From which hangover? Odessa Russia nafig not needed, as such. To deprive the junta of a port on the Black Sea - yes.
    But Odessa itself is just nostalgia for the past, which, for normal people, is forever crossed out after the burning of people by the Nazis.
    It is quite possible to deal with Transnistria and Nikolaev without taking Odessa.
    And then the squeamish Odessa is unlikely to be defended by the nationalists. They go to Romania.
  23. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 25 May 2022 18: 31
    +1
    timid inhabitants of Odessa and ssyklivye nikolayevets let while satisfy nazis. That's all they can do.

    You are off topic when a trip to the store for bread ends with a summons to the military registration and enlistment office of the Armed Forces of Ukraine .. What to do?
    1. Go to the call, take up arms and go to the front (happiness is a checkpoint)
    2, Do not go to the call - sit in jail.
    3. Run abroad (multi-thousand bribes to Ukrainian border guards).
  24. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 19: 14
    -9
    There is no need to reduce everything to 2022. There was 2014 and further 2015, 2016, etc. And it is not by chance that people were burned in Odessa. And during the Second World War there was a Holocaust in Odessa. So do not bring me a blizzard in the subject, I or not in the subject. I don't feel sorry for them. Absolutely. We got everything we deserved. I am especially touched by your "Run abroad".
    How many residents of Odessa and Nikolaev have moved to Russia or to the LDNR since 2014? BUT? Ten people, fifteen? And how many people lived in these areas - more than three million people.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 27 May 2022 01: 24
      0
      Do you work at customs, or how do you know how many people from these regions left for Russia? And what to do with those residents of these regions who ended up in the dungeons of the SBU, which is worse than the Gestapo?
  25. Killed by Kenobi 25 May 2022 19: 47
    +1
    How is that? When NATO ground forces enter the territory of Ukraine, they will be considered to have entered into hostilities (war). And the warships of the alliance that entered the territorial waters of Ukraine - is this "other" ??? The author does not know the word "denominator"?
  26. Vlad Petrov Offline Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov (Vladimir) 25 May 2022 20: 19
    -1
    Fascist Ukraine must die and is already half dead. That's where she belongs. Dill and idiots from NATO will not see Odessa. Wait, if the freaks have doubts, then they went through the forest.
  27. weddu Offline weddu
    weddu (Kolya) 25 May 2022 21: 20
    +1
    I read local strategists and marvel, sheer generals-fluders, most of them barely finished school, dug up a garden, sat down on the Soviet "indestructible" sofa to make strategic plans ... Excuse me.

    Valery Vasilyevich Gerasimov: Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - First Deputy Minister of Defense. Comes from a family of workers. He graduated from the Kazan Suvorov Military School (1971-1973) with honors, the Kazan Higher Tank Command School named after the Supreme Council of the Tatar ASSR (1973-1977) with a gold medal, the Military Academy of Armored Forces named after Marshal of the Soviet Union R. Ya. Malinovsky (1984-1987) with honors, Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

    Before him:

    Nikolai Yegorovich Makarov: In 1967-1971, he was a cadet of the Moscow Higher All-Arms Command School named after the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR. Graduated with a gold medal.
    In 1976-1979 - a student of the Military Academy named after M.V. Frunze. Graduated with a gold medal. In 1991-1993 he was a student of the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Graduated with a gold medal.

    Whom do you think to teach, to whom do you give advice? .. mother honest ..
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 25 May 2022 23: 56
      +3
      Yes, here the strategist is on the strategist, and the strategist drives.
      I come here just to laugh.
      Marzhetsky weekly divides Ukraine, and draws the directions of the main blows. He is echoed by the same great school commanders.
      And all this nonsense is arrogantly called analytics!
    2. wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
      wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 26 May 2022 23: 23
      +1
      It is necessary to judge the abilities of people not by what and how they graduated, not by regalia, not by titles and awards, but by their real deeds. In the meantime, the results of their cases raise many questions and doubts.
      1. weddu Offline weddu
        weddu (Kolya) 27 May 2022 22: 20
        0
        We must judge by what we finished, ..and what are you talking about and about whom in general ..? ..regalia hanging down....
  28. Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) 25 May 2022 22: 03
    -1
    Everything is correct. It is high time.
    But, unfortunately, it seems that we have long been betrayed.
  29. ChopChop Offline ChopChop
    ChopChop 25 May 2022 23: 50
    +4
    Again we throw hats. Slightly there were successes, so immediately all the opponents are worthless. And he (the enemy) is preparing, receiving weapons, mastering these weapons and smoothly switching to NATO standards, and these are new stocks for small arms and artillery weapons, and integration with Western intelligence systems. Plus rocket technology, aviation, air defense, which we allegedly "destroyed". We continue to be so complacent, then we will wash ourselves with blood. And NATO's fuss at Odessa will not lead to good if we hesitate there.
    1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 26 May 2022 04: 44
      -2
      Zadolbal you already with caps. Are you on Lucy's payroll? Khokhols did not wash themselves with blood? Yes, they have already created a whole ocean in Ukrainian. They can master anything, but without the intervention of amers they are doomed to defeat.
      1. ChopChop Offline ChopChop
        ChopChop 26 May 2022 11: 43
        +3
        You, dear Smilodon, are definitely not from our time. What era were you dug up from? Assistance from the USA for Ukraine is in full swing and only the complete futility of the position of the Ukrainian government can force them to refuse to help.
        1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 26 May 2022 13: 11
          -1
          Well, then what? The Union supplied the Arabs in full. Did it help them win? No, the beats were shameful. Weapons will not fight for themselves. Ukrainians. Of course, they are stronger than the Arabs, but here logistics and unwillingness to intervene directly in the amers conflict are against them. Therefore, Patriot, Javelin, Spike or Hymars - it doesn't matter. They may prolong their agony, but there is no way to avoid defeat.
          1. wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
            wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 26 May 2022 23: 11
            -1
            Lend Lease helped the USSR defeat the Nazis.
            1. guest Offline guest
              guest 27 May 2022 01: 17
              -1
              And you believe in this Western propaganda?
              1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
                k7k8 (vic) 27 May 2022 08: 54
                0
                Mikoyan is Western propaganda? http://www.vif2ne.org/nvk/forum/arhprint/1274237
                Putin is Western propaganda? https://www.interfax.ru/russia/761211
                Zhukov is Western propaganda? https://history.wikireading.ru/248345
                1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 27 May 2022 17: 46
                  0
                  What attitude Mikoyan. Zhukov and Putin have foolishness? The key weapons of that war were T-34, KV, IS tanks. ISU self-propelled guns. Aircraft Il, Yak and MiG. MLRS Katyusha and Andryusha. What of all this Lend-Lease? Zadolbal already this myth about dur-liz. The most intelligent things from this fool-lease were "Studebaker", "Willis" and stew "Second Front"
                  Do you think we would have won without the stew or not?
                  1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
                    k7k8 (vic) 28 May 2022 11: 49
                    0
                    Of course, these people have nothing to do with Lend-Lease. Zhukov just used the supplied weapons at the front. Mikoyan only supervised the Lend-Lease system from the USSR. And under Putin, the last Lend-Lease payment was made. These people know what they are talking about. And three times Hero of the Soviet Union Pokryshkin fought on the "Aerocobra". And the vast majority of Katyushas were mounted on Studebaker. And every second ton of aviation aluminum was from the USA. When the USSR lost gunpowder factories, where was the production of gunpowder for shells for Katyushas organized? Yes, the same railway wagons were delivered under Lend-Lease 10 times more than produced locally. More examples? You can argue about lend-lease for as long as you like, but denying its role, at least in shortening the war, is at least stupid.
                    1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 28 May 2022 16: 15
                      +1
                      It is foolish to say that fool-liz decided something. About "Aerocobra". What place did she take in the list of the best combat aircraft of the war? The best were Heinkel, Messerschmitt, Fokkewulf, Yak, Il, Mig, Junkers. Oops, there is nothing from fool-lease.
                      Well, the fact that Putin finally paid for fool-lease finally dispels the myths of those who spoke about free help. Only the Mongols helped us for free.
                      1. k7k8 Offline k7k8
                        k7k8 (vic) 29 May 2022 09: 30
                        0
                        At the very least, it's stupid to try to talk to an iron pig.
                  2. And W2 Offline And W2
                    And W2 (And W2) 1 June 2022 19: 31
                    0
                    In 43, famine would have set in without help. In addition, there are many more positions. Undoubtedly, the top slows down and the 5th column operates. Listen to Sivkov, Kalashnikov and the story of the Hephaestus sight, which turns any FAB into a precision bomb. As a military man, I don’t understand either "" "ra. We need a prosecutor's office and counterintelligence. Significant doubts torment the omniscient generals. We do NOT have endless missiles, women still do not give birth, the patience of the people is not unlimited.
                2. isofat Offline isofat
                  isofat (isofat) 28 May 2022 17: 15
                  0
                  Lend Lease Act) full name - "Act to ensure the protection of the United States" laughing
                  We also have to thank our diplomats.
  30. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 26 May 2022 01: 50
    -4
    Permanent missile strikes. Unfortunately, at the same time, coastal cities will not escape destruction, because. the Ukronazis have chosen a rotten tactic. And do not be afraid (hypothetically) to hit NATO warships, this is not their territory.
  31. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 26 May 2022 02: 07
    +1
    And how can one not recall the legendary Andrei Gromyko - "Mr. No" (where is the current Lavrov before him!) With his famous phrase regarding the straits and the extremely sad fate of Istanbul, in which case .. The Turks immediately crap themselves after that and no longer tried to play heroes .
    1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 26 May 2022 04: 45
      -1
      This Mr. No brought the Bullseye to power, as a result of whose actions the current nix is ​​happening.
      1. wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
        wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 26 May 2022 23: 08
        -1
        not loudly brought the hunchback to power, but the andropovs.
        1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 27 May 2022 17: 40
          0
          In 1985, Andropov was not present, and the decisive vote was for Gromyko. And this elder gave such a responsible post to a traitor for a sinecure (consider it a sausage). As for me, Gromyko was no less to blame for the tragedy that happened later than Chubas, Yelets, Gorb, or even more. The desire to take into account their interests, and not the interests of the country - that's the main vice of the late Soviet functionaries. And Gromyka also turned out to be a hidden enemy, since a true Soviet patriot would never sell a key position for sausage.
  32. Yuri V.A Offline Yuri V.A
    Yuri V.A (Yuri) 26 May 2022 03: 52
    +1
    The water area of ​​​​Odessa can be mined without fear of anti-ship missiles, with the help of aircraft and submarines, but the Russian army is not capable of taking the coast to Transnistria
    1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 26 May 2022 04: 46
      0
      Why is it not capable? Capable. It will just take time.
      1. Yuri V.A Offline Yuri V.A
        Yuri V.A (Yuri) 26 May 2022 06: 13
        0
        How long do you think we'll last?
        1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 26 May 2022 13: 04
          -2
          And how much will it take. And for those who have diarrhea, it’s better now to wind up on Allegro in foreign countries.
          1. Yuri V.A Offline Yuri V.A
            Yuri V.A (Yuri) 26 May 2022 15: 26
            +1
            That is, there is no own opinion, except for convenient assent.
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              2. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
                Grei grin (Gray Grin) 26 May 2022 18: 00
                0
                good offer!
    2. And W2 Offline And W2
      And W2 (And W2) 1 June 2022 19: 42
      0
      I assure you, the Anglo-Saxons would bring crests to order in a period of 3 days to 2 weeks. I know how, without war crimes, there are several ways to bring Bandera to active repentance and love for our Motherland.
  33. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 26 May 2022 04: 13
    0
    An attempt by the Russian Navy or the Russian Aerospace Forces to sink, say, a British destroyer will just be the reason for declaring war with the NATO bloc

    Wanguyu, Lithuanians, Latvians, Poles, Belgians rallied in orderly rows into one army .... Under the wise leadership of Lisa Truss, they decided to punish Russia for Odessa. Oil painting!
    1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 26 May 2022 04: 48
      -3
      For whom? For amers? So they do not feel sorry for the lackeys. If the British will arise, then their island will turn into one big Hiroshima.
  34. Krilion Offline Krilion
    Krilion (Krilion) 26 May 2022 05: 50
    +5
    survived .. a country that does not have a Navy actually jerked off the Russian Black Sea Fleet ... the question arises why we need it at all and what will happen to it when a real enemy meets at sea ... probably the defeat will be complete ...
    1. Smilodon terribilis nimis 26 May 2022 13: 06
      -1
      The fleet is not only surface ships, but also submarines. I highly doubt that anyone would want to suffer heavy losses just to flood a couple of cans.
    2. And W2 Offline And W2
      And W2 (And W2) 1 June 2022 19: 46
      0
      It dragged on because our Navy consists of arrested yachts of oligarchs and top officials.
  35. 3danimal Offline 3danimal
    3danimal 26 May 2022 14: 15
    0
    Tired of this newspeak.
    What prevents to say: capture, annexation. (And what will you do to us for this? Wipe yourself!)
    IMHO, it's all about uncertainty.
    1. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
      Grei grin (Gray Grin) 26 May 2022 17: 56
      0
      from cowardice! but they are still baaalshie patriots!
      1. 3danimal Offline 3danimal
        3danimal 15 June 2022 17: 19
        0
        The vast majority of "patriots" who support the war or the NWO (whichever is more convenient) are couch potatoes, with an infantile attitude towards war. They want to watch about the victories on TV with beer, but for some reason they don’t even have an idea to call the military registration and enlistment office, sign up for a PMC. After all, then they, so beautiful and correct, can be killed.
  36. Grei grin Offline Grei grin
    Grei grin (Gray Grin) 26 May 2022 17: 55
    0
    Those archangels are still sitting in the headquarters and there are a bunch of traitors with foreign passports in their pockets, one Medinsky, who glorified Hitler's friend Manerheim, what is worth and here, with Ukraine, he tried to shit in the negotiations! Yes, practically those who were sitting in power are still sitting, only partners and colleagues from the West cleaned their pockets a little, nothing has changed, and Urgant, who escaped, and Sobchak here, according to Peskov, are great patriots, only they got a little scared! But if someone is simpler, not from their party, gets scared and screams for world peace, that time and behind bars!
  37. kkv Offline kkv
    kkv (kkrutov) 26 May 2022 22: 16
    0
    One half of the General Staff calculates everything on a supercomputer, the other recalculates after them on logarithmic rulers in order to fuck exactly the same team across the sea and across the ocean ... thousands of heads are smoking, and here you can hear from the sofa: "I would have done EVERYTHING in a completely different way"
  38. Sart Offline Sart
    Sart (Sart) 26 May 2022 22: 23
    -2
    Late, Odessa is located between estuaries 50-70 km long. Very powerful and echeloned, all dangerous directions are strengthened and targeted.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 27 May 2022 01: 13
      0
      And when did these estuaries appear? 30 years ago? Russia already liberated Odessa during the Second World War and no estuaries and echolonized defense could prevent this.
  39. wladimirjankov Offline wladimirjankov
    wladimirjankov (Vladimir Yankov) 26 May 2022 23: 02
    +2
    Without blocking the western borders of Ukraine, i.e. By capturing its western regions, our country will not achieve its goals and will not force it to peace on our terms. And in order to do this, you must first liberate the Nikolaev and Odessa regions by land. This had to be done from the very beginning of the NWO, and climb into Kharkov and Kyiv. It was a big mistake of our command, as well as its calculation on the combat effectiveness of the "people's militia" of the LPR and DPR. Especially the DPR, in which it is not clear what the authorities have been doing for 8 years. With huge help from Russia, they managed to bring their "army" to a faint and helpless state. And there is simply not enough evil for this Pushilin and Basurin, when every day for three months now they have been complaining on TV channels about Bandera, who are shelling and killing residents of Donetsk. And to drive the Nazis away from the Donbass and resolve the issue, this is still an impossible task for them. It is also not necessary to rely on our fleet and carry out any landing operations with it. Our fleet has already shown what it is worth. Therefore, only by land through Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa to the western regions of Ukraine. To defeat Bandera, they must be taken by the "eggs", and they have them there. We must act tough and resolutely, without sentimentality and chimeras, without looking back at what the West will say. Ukraine should have been dealt with back in 2014, but it’s better now than putting it off again for later. And if you have already begun, then be sure to bring the matter to a victorious end.
    1. Sart Offline Sart
      Sart (Sart) 27 May 2022 00: 34
      -1
      Kramatorsk - Slavyansk will probably be taken by the end of summer, their task is to tie up the Russian grouping until autumn. The Kremlin will stop there and try to negotiate with the West on fixing positions. There is no strength or resources for more. No one expected such resistance from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. By autumn, Ukraine will be saturated with heavy and high-tech weapons, and the main task of the RF Armed Forces will be to hold its positions. A long positional war will begin. Who will emerge victorious from it is not yet clear, but given the many times greater resource of the united West, everything will depend on the stamina of the defense of the Russian troops and the ability of the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that are now being formed to cause painful damage to the defenders. But all this will be in the fall. In the meantime, Skabeeva will trumpet about an outstanding victory in the capture of another village, the captured district center will be presented as a grandiose strategic victory for the company, but in fact the situation is a dead end.
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 27 May 2022 01: 09
        0
        How I am touched by such sofa experts. Of course, I'm not so enthusiastic about how Russia is fighting now, but what you're talking about here is already complete nonsense. And, fortunately, Ukraine itself will not allow it to come to an agreement. Well, as for the complete liberation of Donbass, somewhere in a month this may become a reality, even Ukrainians admit that things are bad for them there.
  40. surok1 Offline surok1
    surok1 (Please) 27 May 2022 10: 21
    +1
    Too many comments to read them all. I myself can say that from Odessa the fortress is so-so. Targets, if they are not mobile, and even not constantly mobile, will be identified and neutralized. All centers, if not in bunkers, and even in bunkers, are doomed. Only the problem of a human shield remains unsolvable.
  41. Amper Offline Amper
    Amper (Vlad) 28 May 2022 23: 22
    -1
    I'm at a loss whose diapers stink, VP or US. Or is it supposed to be like this, is it a plan? There was nothing to play up well .. oh, that nuclear weapons are applicable, if anything! (?) And then in refusal - NEVER to die !!! Partners!! Love for the world!!! Chewing gum jeans! Let's! Sick of this company...until we will endure them, to the end..?
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  42. assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
    assault 2019 (assault 2019) 29 May 2022 05: 46
    +2
    In a war, the one who owns the initiative wins, so it was and always will be!

    Now Ukraine, under the direct control of NATO, has "woke up from the first shock", competently tied up in positional battles almost all the forces of the Russian Federation and the republics of the LPR / LPR in the Donbass.
    The actions to liberate the main cities of the left-bank "Russian Ukraine" of Kharkov, Sumy, Chernigov, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, as well as Nikolaev and Odessa are not even mentioned in our media.
    As a great military success, we are presented with the liberation from the Armed Forces of some village or town with a population of 10-15 thousand people, while the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine calmly leave through the abandoned "corridor" in order to regroup, replenish reserves, receive Western weapons and take up new frontiers in the neighboring the regional center for 15-20 km., no one pursues them, does not destroy them with artillery and aviation strikes on the march, does not take them prisoner?
    The media are trumpeting the massive use of foreign counter-battery weapons by the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the number of downed drones has exceeded a thousand, but they still do not end, we are told that all the substations supplying the railways were bombed, but dozens of American 777 howitzers with ammunition somehow got to the Donbass .
    Some kind of "giveaway game".
  43. Andrey Buldin Offline Andrey Buldin
    Andrey Buldin (Andrey Buldin) 29 May 2022 11: 29
    +1
    I said and I say, not so much, the Ukrainian-Polish border is dangerous, another artery is dangerous - the Black Sea. It is necessary to return to Russia the port cities of Ochakov, Nikolaev and Odessa, not so much the memory of the past, these port cities should be Russian, like Kherson, Mariupol, Sevastopol, and Crimea, but how much logistics, supply of weapons to the APU. It is necessary to kill this artery, without which it will be easier to move towards the Ukrainian-Polish border.
  44. Petrol cutter Offline Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter (Vitali) 29 May 2022 18: 11
    +1
    In no case should you delay this issue. And with him already delayed ...
    Damn it!..
    Why are we taking so long?
    Why do you need to first collect the enemy there, and then heroically kick him out of the telev?! ..
  45. guest Offline guest
    guest 31 May 2022 16: 48
    0
    Quote: AwaZ
    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation do not have the technical capabilities to stop this .. Why?

    There are opportunities, but why they are not used is another question.
  46. guest Offline guest
    guest 31 May 2022 16: 50
    0
    You can’t delay, because the people are waiting there: https://t.me/denazi_UA/11466