What should Russia do with post-war Ukraine: options and prospects

What should Russia do with post-war Ukraine: options and prospects

The mysterious silence kept by the Russian authorities regarding the future of Ukraine is interpreted in different ways. Optimists believe that the time has not yet come for an announcement, and it is enough for everyone to be satisfied with the wording of "denazification" and "demilitarization", whatever that means. Pessimists think everything, including that there is some confusion in the Kremlin caused by the failure of an attempt to solve the problem from the first attack, like a hussar, and they are waiting for how and when the liberation of Donbass will end in order to make further decisions. The truth, most likely, is somewhere in the middle.


The key question is what to do with the pro-Western Nazi regime liberated from power? In 2014, it would have been much easier to answer it, but in 2022 the Kremlin will still have to make rather difficult decisions that will determine the future fate of the Russian, Ukrainian, and at the same time Belarusian peoples. Without claiming to be the ultimate truth, let's try to think once again how exactly the post-war Square can be reorganized.

Two Ukraine



It is no secret that Ukraine consists of three very different parts, each of which has its own specifics: Central, South-Eastern and Western. They are also heterogeneous in their structure, for example, the inhabitants of Galicia are very different in mentality from their fellow citizens in Transcarpathia, and the inhabitants of Odessa - from the inhabitants of the industrial Donbass. Nevertheless, it is quite possible to unite them into certain communities in their attitude towards Russia and towards “Russianness” in the broadest sense of the word.

The results of all elections in Nezalezhnaya clearly show that there are two Ukraines - conventionally "Russian" and "Ukrainian". The first occupies the South-East of the country, the historical New Russia, the second - the Central and Western part. Similar results are given by the results of Arestovich / Podolyak queries on the Google web search for the regions of Ukraine. Statistics show that residents of "Russian" Ukraine are looking for information on the videos of the popular Russian video blogger of Ukrainian origin, a native of the city of Sumy, Yuri Podolyaka. "Ukrainian" Ukraine actively consumes propaganda from the newly-minted "mini-Goebbels" Alexei Arestovich, who serves the criminal regime of President Zelensky.

That is, even 8 years of systemic Russophobia and fierce hostilities in the South-East of the country could not make Novorossiya finally turn away from Russia. How quickly the Kherson region and the south of Zaporozhye accepted the actual change of power only confirms this conclusion. Dissatisfied, of course, there are, but where without them? The main and determining factor is the opinion of the silent majority.

into three parts



This geopolitical alignment can be the basis for the concept of transformation of post-war Ukraine. Its entire modern history has proved that it can only be united and indivisible if it is anti-Russian, when the Center and the West, having united, put pressure on the South-East for its “Russianness”, and under the rule of the Nazi regime, they have sunk to the point that in 2014 they were sent to Donbass "punishers", where they have been ironing peaceful cities with heavy artillery for 8 years. You can't leave it "as is". To cure Ukraine, a section is shown, no matter how unpleasant it is for someone.

The fact that the South-East will no longer be able to remain part of the former Independent does not raise the slightest doubt. "Russian" Ukraine, despite the opportunities missed in 8 years, is still the most ready for reunification with Russia. The most correct would be the creation of a new federal district within the Russian Federation, Novorossiysk, which could include Crimea, since it is economically very closely connected with the Kherson region. The Novorossiysk Federal District should occupy the territory from Kharkov to Odessa. Thus, a wide range of tasks will be solved: historical justice will be restored, Kyiv will be cut off from the sea, sandwiched between Russia and Belarus, our country will strengthen its industrial potential, which is important in the new Cold War with the West, etc. But what to do then with the rest of the "Ukrainian" Ukraine?

The most stupid and short-sighted thing that can be done is to do nothing, leaving it under the authority of the “legitimate President Zelensky” or whoever will sit on Bankova Street, hoping to agree on something with him. The collective West simply will not allow the matter to be resolved peacefully, and Russia is doomed to fight until it liberates the Ukrainian land to the last span. But is it necessary after that to annex the Kyiv and Western Ukrainian federal districts to the Russian Federation, depriving the Independent State of its statehood?

In the personal opinion of the author of the lines, this would be a big mistake. The problem is that our country will not “digest” Central and, moreover, Western Ukraine now. It takes time, a lot of time, for their denazification, and the psychological wounds from the armed conflict must have time to heal. This in no way means that everything should be left to chance, on the contrary. Ukraine must retain its statehood, but on Moscow's terms. They should be as follows: recognition of Novorossiya and Crimea as Russian, transformation from a unitary form into a federation, entry into the CSTO, the EAEU, the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.

Central Ukraine, Little Russia, will become the legal successor of the current one. The thesis that it should be neutral and non-aligned is categorically wrong. On the contrary, it should enter into all integration and military alliances and associations with Russia. The education system must be built according to our curricula. In relation to those involved in active Russophobic activities, special “stop lists” are needed that prohibit them from holding positions in the state and municipal service. The cultural life of the post-war country should be monitored by a special Supervisory Board. The Armed Forces of the MF should be reduced in numbers and formed from veterans of the DPR and LPR militia. Military bases of the RF Armed Forces should be located on the territory of the Little Russian Federation in order to avoid a recurrence of the Maidan.

If Poland does not dare to seize Galicia and Volyn with the support of NATO, then in Western Ukraine it is necessary to create several broad national-cultural autonomies where Ukrainians, Hungarians, Romanians, Rusyns, and other peoples can coexist. If Warsaw takes back Eastern Cresses, we won't cry either. Together with them, numerous supporters of Euromaidan will be able to leave for Europe, simplifying the task of pacifying Ukraine.

Only in this way, in a few decades, it will be possible to really bring peace and tranquility to this unfortunate country. New Russia must be taken away now, Little Russia must be pacified and integrated through the format of the Union State of Russia with Belarus. Only the future of Western Ukraine is in question, since there are other players with their own appetites.
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  1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 21 May 2022 14: 59
    -12
    The way Putin blamed Lenin-Stalin for all the troubles in Ukraine, one would think that Ukraine would be completely Russian. But it is one thing to look for the guilty, and another thing to answer for something yourself. For 20 years, he has never answered for his promises, and you want him to keep an answer for the whole of Ukraine. Therefore, most likely, the people will be forced to make a decision, so that later it would be easier to find the guilty one. Like, you yourself decided so.
    1. Anatol21 Offline Anatol21
      Anatol21 (Anatol21) 21 May 2022 18: 12
      -1
      I dare to suggest that Putin, by virtue of his character and his entourage, can limit himself to Donbass and, God forbid, Kherson and Zaporozhye. After that, he will agree to negotiate a truce with the Nazis, because he is against the occupation. ((((
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 21 May 2022 18: 39
        +2
        No, at least you have to go to Odessa, because the conflict in Transnistria is already close.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 21 May 2022 19: 13
          -6
          Quote: guest
          No, at least you have to go to Odessa,

          So why are you sitting on the couch? Automatic in hand and go.
      2. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 (Victor) 22 May 2022 13: 05
        -1
        it will be so, but then it is necessary to prepare for a real war with the outskirts, and it will be completely different
      3. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) 25 May 2022 14: 24
        0
        If Warsaw takes back Eastern Cresses, we won't cry either.

        There is no need to cry, It is necessary to demand the Suvalov corridor in return.
    2. guest Offline guest
      guest 21 May 2022 18: 42
      0
      And that the Bolsheviks are completely innocent? They gave Ukraine lands that never belonged to it.
      1. isofat Online isofat
        isofat (isofat) 22 May 2022 16: 27
        +1
        guest, V. Putin said that the communists built the Ukrainian SSR. Separated, today's Ukraine was built by those with whom the then Bandera people fought and continue to fight today. Well, Russia will help in decommunization. laughing
  2. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 21 May 2022 15: 02
    -7
    You cannot refuse the logic of the respected Author.
    But there is also an illogical option: Ukraine remains a unitary state under the control of ... the current leaders of the LDNR.
    Their task will be the restoration of a single national economic complex and its further development.
    Moreover: development to envy ... RF!
    The current beggar country has the potential for this!
    1. Anatol21 Offline Anatol21
      Anatol21 (Anatol21) 21 May 2022 18: 15
      +3
      Ukraine will no longer be unitary, the Nazis should forget about this forever.
      1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
        Michael L. 21 May 2022 20: 57
        -1
        So there will be no "Natsiks" in unitary Ukraine!
  3. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 21 May 2022 15: 44
    -1
    To conquer ALL Ukraine is a completely crazy idea. I really hope that Putin still understands this. But for the most part, this is not necessary. The alienation of Novorossiya in favor of the Russian Federation is quite enough, coupled with a decisive cessation of gas transit through Ukraine and, in general, cutting it off from Russian energy resources. Time will do the rest.
    1. Anatol21 Offline Anatol21
      Anatol21 (Anatol21) 21 May 2022 18: 22
      +4
      Time will do the rest .... It's a pity that neither I, nor you, and even the current generation of Russia will have to live in this beautiful time.
    2. guest Offline guest
      guest 21 May 2022 18: 36
      +3
      I don’t quite agree, the Western region can really be made a subject of bargaining, but Little Russia (central Ukraine) should be under the control of Russia, because it is from these territories that Russia is now being shelled.
    3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 21 May 2022 19: 15
      -2
      Quote: Colonel Kudasov
      coupled with a decisive cessation of gas transit through Ukraine

      Don't worry, Europe has decided to refuse Russian gas, transit will stop anyway.
      1. isofat Online isofat
        isofat (isofat) 22 May 2022 16: 31
        0
        Oleg Rambover, do not worry, the collective West constantly deceives us.
  4. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 21 May 2022 16: 40
    +8
    And how many shots should we receive in the backs of our guys after such a reconciliation, because the Azov battalion, which killed and tortured thousands of civilians in Donbass, was born in the Russian city of Kharkov, and Odessans, residents of Russian Odessa, burned more than two hundred people of their fellow citizens in Odessa House of Trade Unions, and in Mariupol on May 9, 2014, local Bandera killed 56 policemen who were trying to protect a demonstration dedicated to Victory Day. Well, how can we now reconcile this whole conglomerate of Russophobes and Russophiles, I'm not talking about the rest of Galicia, which needs to be transferred to the Poles for re-education - someone for a stake, someone alive in the ground, and someone on the chopping block. - Psheks will never forget what Bandera did on their lands in WWII.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 21 May 2022 19: 29
      -9
      Quote: Valentine
      after all, the Azov battalion, which killed and tortured thousands of civilians in Donbass, was born in the Russian city of Kharkov,

      Why is there trifles, say millions have been tortured.

      Quote: Valentine
      which needs to be transferred to the Poles for re-education - someone for a stake, someone alive in the ground, and someone on the chopping block

      An anti-Nazi is disappearing in you, it's like burying anti-Nazis alive in the ground. Yes, and all the other methods of struggle proposed by you are directly worthy of the title of anti-Nazi.
      1. Valentine Offline Valentine
        Valentine (Valentin) 21 May 2022 20: 38
        +5
        "When you come home, you're sitting there" ..... I already asked you not to get into my comments, and yours don't bother me, you better enjoy your "redness", you are not respected here, but you keep climbing and climbing with his yelling and flat phraseology.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 23 May 2022 11: 41
          -2
          Someone must lower you to the sinful earth from your imperial Black Hundred clouds.
  5. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 21 May 2022 16: 47
    +4
    banderlog gangs will have to be released, destroyed throughout Ukraine, otherwise the war, denazification will be eternal, the West with its plans to destroy or weaken Russia will not go anywhere
    even having theoretically cleared all of Ukraine, many nationalists in an organized manner with weapons will go to Poland and the Baltic states and, having licked their wounds, will try to harm the new authorities and Russia by making sorties
    therefore, western Ukraine should be under the control of Russia and its provisional military administration, otherwise the gangs, having passed the western pro-Western territories, will already hit the pro-Russian parts of Ukraine
  6. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 21 May 2022 17: 17
    +1
    The silence kept by the Russian authorities regarding the future of Ukraine is connected with uncertainty, because it is becoming more and more obvious that it is impossible to occupy the entire territory of Ukraine and resolve the issue of non-location and non-alignment by force (possibly to the EU as the economic basis of NATO)
    Therefore, with a high degree of probability, the point is that the occupied territories of Ukraine will become the subject of bargaining in negotiations on the preservation of the occupied territories of Ukrainian affiliation, subject to a change in its state structure, refusal of reparations, recognition of the DPR-LPR, Crimea as Russian, guarantees of non-alignment, non-location , recognition of the status of the state language to the Russian language, along with Ukrainian, etc.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 21 May 2022 18: 32
      +4
      Only with this option, Russia loses the land corridor to the Crimea, and also returns the water blockade of the Crimea. I'm not talking about the complete loss of confidence in the Russian government, because it was announced that Ukraine would not return to these territories.
    2. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
      Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 21 May 2022 20: 21
      +5
      The return of the Kherson region to Kyiv, as well as the DPR and LPR, will be a direct surrender of Russia's positions. Kyiv's "guarantees" regarding the status of the Russian language and neutrality are not even worth a penny, but even less
  7. Sydor Kovpak Offline Sydor Kovpak
    Sydor Kovpak 21 May 2022 17: 29
    +6
    Ukraine should not be independent. The best time is the Soviet time. For 30 years of "independence", she became even more dependent. Achievements only in Russophobia. There is nothing more to give as an example. Corruption even in religion is nonsense. But these are realities.
  8. psycholog kargin vladimir (Vladimir Kargin) 21 May 2022 19: 26
    0
    Maybe it's not so difficult, it's just that people are afraid to jinx it)
  9. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 21 May 2022 19: 41
    -7
    Again, the author divides the skin of an unkilled bear. Apparently, Ukraine set out to win by military means. Perhaps the Ukrainian leadership harbors such hopes in a not empty place. Looks like there won't be peace in the next couple of months. Not the fact that before the end of the year everything will be over. The army of Ukraine in terms of numbers is already approaching the army of the Russian Federation. The author's plans are destined to come true when the war goes into a total stage, with the transition of the economy to a military footing, with mobilization. It will be a frontal war with losses by an order of magnitude greater and the leveling of Ukrainian cities with the ground. At the moment, the Russian Federation does not have enough forces to conquer Ukraine.
  10. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
    Vox Populi (vox populi) 21 May 2022 19: 42
    0
    The mysterious silence kept by the Russian authorities regarding the future of Ukraine is interpreted in different ways. Optimists believe that the time has not yet come for an announcement, and it is enough for everyone to be satisfied with the wording of "denazification" and "demilitarization", whatever that means. Pessimists think everything, including that there is some confusion in the Kremlin caused by the failure of an attempt to solve the problem from the first attack, like a hussar, and they are waiting for how and when the liberation of Donbass will end in order to make further decisions. The truth, most likely, is somewhere in the middle.

    The truth is not always in the middle and the opinion of pessimists looks more logical. This is the answer to the question:

    What should Russia do with post-war Ukraine: options and prospects

    Moreover, the goal of liquidating Ukraine as a state was not officially announced ...
  11. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
    Vox Populi (vox populi) 21 May 2022 19: 45
    0
    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    Quote: Colonel Kudasov
    coupled with a decisive cessation of gas transit through Ukraine

    Don't worry, Europe has decided to refuse Russian gas, transit will stop anyway.

    Most likely it will be so in a few years (maximum 5-7) ...
  12. k7k8 Online k7k8
    k7k8 (vic) 21 May 2022 19: 56
    +2
    If Poland does not dare to take Galicia and Volyn with the support of NATO

    The annexation of Western Ukraine is the least acceptable option, oddly enough, for Banderlogs. This is because in Poland there is a law criminalizing the propaganda of Ukrainian nationalism, no matter what goals it hides behind. The fact that the Poles are currently flirting with the Ukronazis means nothing. At present, this is a problem for Ukraine and Russia, and everything that is bad for Russia and Ukraine is good for Poland. But with the annexation of Western Ukraine to Poland, Ukronazism will become an internal problem in Poland, and therefore no one will fuss with banderlogs (it’s enough to remember how the Poles treated the demonstrations of opponents of the abortion ban), and they, with a high probability, will see "the sky in diamonds." And they understand this very well.
  13. opportunist Offline opportunist
    opportunist (dim) 21 May 2022 20: 01
    0
    the collective West is not going to leave a single Ukrainian unused, it will fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian. Russia needs a protracted hybrid war. Each liberated province will automatically become part of Russia. Rubles will become legal tender. Schools will work according to Russian standards. internal security. Even the army forces from among the citizens of these provinces. We must educate people and give them weapons for resistance. This cannot be done overnight, it takes time, and this process has already begun in Kherson. From a strategic point of view, it is important for the regime to lose access to Azov and Black Seas, and when this is done, the process I mentioned above will be easier, because the Nazi regime will suffer significant economic losses. As for the State of the Union, the State of the Union must have a common constitution, a common currency and a common armed forces It doesn’t happen with Belarus either. We don’t have with Belarus a common constitution. We don't have a common currency. The armed forces don't work.
    1. cold weather Offline cold weather
      cold weather (Anatoly) 21 May 2022 22: 21
      0
      So I think that the Nazis are coming out to migrate to the East-Russia, away from Poland. Canada is not for everyone.
  14. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 21 May 2022 23: 26
    +1
    Another article What to do. Pieces 30 already met.
    Tradition since the time of Chernyshevsky)))

    But in reality - the Kremlin and EDRO will decide. As he decides, everyone will nod, and write to the media, and approve ...
  15. Indifferent Offline Indifferent
    Indifferent 22 May 2022 00: 51
    -2
    Putin will take the East and the South. And at the expense of the Center and the West will bargain. So that they get away to the borders of 97. Then he will give for a neutral status!
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 22 May 2022 14: 11
      -2
      You can really bargain for the west, but the center should be under the control of Russia, and not necessarily in its composition.
  16. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 22 May 2022 00: 58
    +1
    Ukraine's future depends not least on the economic confrontation between Russia and the West. The application of the West with the help of sanctions to crush the Russian economy and the application of Russia that the days of Western hegemony are numbered and that the West will ruin itself faster with sanctions. These two expectations now play no less a role than the course of hostilities.

    Therefore, it is still too early to rush to shape the future of Ukraine. An important role will be played by the economic assistance of the West to the Kyiv regime, or rather the lack of it. How to live on? What will happen to the economy? What will happen to Russia? What will happen to the EU? These questions are being asked in Ukraine.

    Living in the state of "Ukraine" in the form it is now is really terrible. This is terrible for everyone in Ukraine. But the people endure, because they are waiting for Europe, European money, European changes.

    On the other hand, Russia, which can and should also become a different country, is much better, more prosperous and stronger. For the regions of Ukraine, Russia is an opportunity for immediate transformation and development. Do not wait for the fulfillment of promises that no one will keep. In this Ukraine, which is now, the West will not invest. It is a fact. They promise that if Ukraine changes, reforms, then maybe it will be accepted into the European family in 10 years .. but this is not certain and only if. But the reforms in Ukraine will not start on their own. the entire elite and power parasitize on the country and no one is going to change it. There is no force in the country that could forcefully start reforms, for example, the fight against corruption. In Russia, this force is - the current government.

    Ukrainians have a choice. It is still premature to decide for them, with the exception of the pro-Russian regions, which are taken under protection. On the other hand, western Ukraine, Galicia, is apparently already lost. It is difficult to imagine how we can live together with that audience. Everything else will have to make its historical choice - to believe in the promises of the Kyiv regime and the West, or to believe in the future of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine and become part of this new entity.
  17. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 22 May 2022 04: 41
    -1
    That's right, Sergei. But I am surprised by the actions of our rulers: we chew sop. and. All of Novorossiya, including Sumy, Chernihiv, Poltava and Kirovograd regions, must become part of Russia. Kyiv is also a Russian city, but here it is more difficult. The problem is not in determining the structure of the former Ukraine, the problem is in the brains of our rulers. You won't get far with such a stupid strategy. Unfortunately.
  18. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 22 May 2022 10: 58
    -4
    Haven't been here in a couple of months and nothing has changed.
    Petty questions about the former Ukraine are being discussed with a smart look.
    Although smart people have long been clear.

    There will be no Ukraine.
    Donbass will become part of Russia, and on the remaining territory of the former Ukraine several republics will be created, vassal to Russia. In the future, some of these republics may be asked to become part of Russia. And they may be accepted as regions.

    No one is going to give anyone a piece of Russian land on the territory of the former Ukraine.

    Furthermore. Smart people do not expect any particularly long war. By winter it will be all over. And this is a pessimistic option.

    The important question is quite different. Will there be an attempt by NATO to send troops to the west of the former Ukraine?
    If the weak-minded make such an attempt, then Putin will introduce martial law, declare mobilization and with a probability of 95% launch tactical nuclear strikes against NATO fighters. With NATO, which has crossed the red line, no one is going to fight the old fashioned way. Moreover, it is not a fact that nuclear strikes will be inflicted only on the territory of the former Ukraine.
    1. Valentine Offline Valentine
      Valentine (Valentin) 22 May 2022 13: 06
      -1
      I agree with you, especially with the last paragraph - it will fence itself off from Europe by delivering tactical nuclear weapons strikes only along the Poland-Galicia border, and this is only 535 km from north to south, and there will be the same number before us.
      1. vo2022smysl Offline vo2022smysl
        vo2022smysl (Common sense) 22 May 2022 18: 24
        +1
        fool Another peacemaker? No.
      2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 23 May 2022 11: 43
        -4
        Don't you understand that this is madness? If such a strike takes place, the consequences will be felt in Russia as well.
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 May 2022 12: 06
          0
          It's crazy to go to war with a nuclear power. But, I understand, "it's different," it's acceptable for white people. But Russia should be very careful even with Poland. Under the hypocritical oakhs of various wise men.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 23 May 2022 13: 29
            -3
            Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
            It's crazy to go to war with a nuclear power.

            War in general is madness, the use of nuclear weapons is doubly madness. But Ukraine is not a nuclear power. And so I agree, the war with NATO is complete madness.
            1. isofat Online isofat
              isofat (isofat) 23 May 2022 13: 45
              0
              Oleg Rambover, the history of mankind is a complete madness. laughing
            2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 24 May 2022 18: 59
              -1
              And so I agree, the war with NATO is complete madness.

              Well, yes. If Russia is at war with NATO, this is complete madness.
              And if NATO is at war with Russia, then this is a good thing.
              1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 24 May 2022 19: 41
                -5
                Where did you get such nonsense? From a change in the places of terms, madness does not cease to be madness. War is madness, war between nuclear powers is madness cubed.
                1. guest Offline guest
                  guest 24 May 2022 21: 49
                  0
                  It's not him, it's your favorite West thinks so.
                  1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 24 May 2022 22: 04
                    -4
                    I'm sure you're right. The West also considers a war with a nuclear power to be madness.
                    1. guest Offline guest
                      guest 24 May 2022 22: 09
                      0
                      But for some reason he wants to fight with Russia.
                      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 24 May 2022 22: 20
                        -4
                        Only in your fantasies.
                      2. guest Offline guest
                        guest 24 May 2022 22: 22
                        0
                        Don't confuse me with Biden.
                      3. guest Offline guest
                        guest 25 May 2022 00: 39
                        0
                        Why in my fantasies? Read what they themselves say:

                        The United States is waging a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine, said Seth Moulton, a member of the US House of Representatives, during a speech in Davos as part of the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF)
                      4. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 25 May 2022 18: 32
                        -3
                        Because fantasy.
                        https://lenta.ru/news/2022/05/24/nato_willing/?ysclid=l3lqug8g2q
                      5. isofat Online isofat
                        isofat (isofat) 25 May 2022 18: 57
                        +1
                        Oleg RamboverHow often do people in the US tell the truth? laughing

                        That made me laugh, that made me laugh! Quite recently, the United States said that NATO would not come close to us. laughing lol love
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  • vo2022smysl Offline vo2022smysl
    vo2022smysl (Common sense) 22 May 2022 18: 27
    0
    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    Another article What to do. Pieces 30 already met.
    Tradition since the time of Chernyshevsky)))

    But in reality - the Kremlin and EDRO will decide. As he decides, everyone will nod, and write to the media, and approve ...

    Well, yes, the sharing of "skins" on the Internet continues. But it should be added that the decision also depends on the results of the SVO ...
  • Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 22 May 2022 18: 45
    -1
    Sergei Marzhetsky continues to promote the vicious and treacherous idea of ​​creating some kind of Polish Ukraine .... as an eternal sting in the body of the Russian Federation (Like Taiwan or Pakistan), it is clear that not an inch of the land of the former Ukraine can be transferred to anyone. here is what Milonov published

  • cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 23 May 2022 03: 04
    +1
    South, east, Dnieper territories to return to the Russian Federation.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 May 2022 06: 42
    -1
    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    Where did you get such nonsense?

    I cited your own statement, but you don’t notice it point-blank and write “Where did you get such nonsense from?”.
    I took this nonsense from your words. It is clear that you do not notice your own stupidity, even when they poke your nose into your own words. You are not responsible for your words.

    That's why I write that there is common sense and the common sense of a Russophobe.
    These are two different concepts.
    And the problem is even deeper. For example, I understand that there is also the common sense of a Russian patriot, which also distorts reality.
    But Russophobes sincerely believe that their common sense is the most common sense.
    This is from their extremely inflated conceit.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 26 May 2022 09: 21
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      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      I cited your own statement, but you don’t notice it point-blank and write “Where did you get such nonsense from?”.

      Would it not make it difficult for you to quote where I say that NATO's war with Russia is normal?
      You don't have to think of anything for me.

      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      That's why I write that there is common sense and the common sense of a Russophobe.

      Great, they themselves came up with something, and now write nonsense about the common sense of a Russophobe.

      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      And the problem is even deeper. For example, I understand that there is also the common sense of a Russian patriot, which also distorts reality.
      But Russophobes sincerely believe that their common sense is the most common sense.
      This is from their extremely inflated conceit.

      Without claiming to be the ultimate truth in my understanding of common sense, sanity is when black is black, white is white. And when black starts, it's white because it's good for Russia (from the point of view of a patriot) or white is black because it's bad for Russia (from the point of view of the mythical Russophobe), this is no longer sanity, but something else.