Stalin's military doctrine and special operation of the Russian Federation


At the XX Congress of the CPSU, the new leadership of the party decided to rewrite the history of the country, saving it from the "shortcomings" of the personality cult. In practice, this meant erasing from historiography the role of Stalin, the theoretical, strategic and tactical developments of the period of his leadership of the party and the country, as well as denigrating him as a leader.


Just before his death, Stalin wrote a theoretical work, which was approved at the XNUMXth Congress as a plan for the further development of the USSR. If we compare Khrushchev's reforms with this plan, then the new general secretary did everything the opposite of what was written. Approximately the same thing happened in other areas of the life of Soviet society: everything that under Stalin was suppressed, banned, recognized as undesirable - from economic methods to literary works - began to be cultivated in one form or another under Khrushchev. A most powerful ideological breakdown took place in the party and the country, which the obliging intellectuals called the "thaw".

A blow to Stalin is a blow to military theory


One of the most significant damage was done to the historiography of the Great Patriotic War, which began to be entirely based not on official Soviet sources of the war period, but on Khrushchev’s report on the cult of personality and numerous memoirs of Soviet military leaders, which were massively published with the appropriate ideological guidelines after the XNUMXth Congress. Indirectly, the blow also fell on military doctrine, since the experience of the Great Patriotic War cannot be overestimated in terms of its depth and scale of influence on military science. The correct conclusions from the victory in the largest war in the history of mankind guarantee an impeccable preparation of strategic thinking. The military ceased to properly study the work of Stalin, Voroshilov as military commanders, the orders of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the evolution of the doctrinal approach from the time of Frunze to the defeat of the Kwantung Army.

The very historiography of the wars of the period of the Stalinist leadership was littered with fakes about command on the globe, senseless repressions of the command staff, exorbitant losses in manpower and technology, insane storming for the holidays, the backwardness of Soviet technology and the clumsiness of the tactics of its use. During the years of Perestroika, fakeness was multiplied dozens of times, "secret documents" were made public, confirming the criminal nature of the Stalinist leadership, "research" was carried out, confirming the monstrous losses. A complex of historical ideas has developed that makes it meaningless to generalize the experience of the Great Patriotic War.

If we take all these widely disseminated "features" of the armed forces of the USSR in the aggregate, then it is generally incomprehensible how the country emerged victorious from all armed conflicts and wars of the period of Stalin's leadership. An ahistorical myth arose that the people and the army over and over again defeated the enemy in spite of the criminal and mediocre high command.

The problem of forgetting the authentic experience of the Great Patriotic War has also migrated to modern Russia. Despite the changed economic и political system with the collapse of the USSR, numerous attempts to undermine the integrity and ideology of the armed forces with reforms, Russia retained the army, the military-industrial complex, and military science. Rather due to social inertia than the caring attitude of the people and the state. The military are institutionally ossified people, therefore, despite the rapidly changing environment of the destruction of socialism and the establishment of capitalism, many of them continued to serve the Fatherland and tried to preserve not only the combat effectiveness of the army, but also traditions and military science.

Theory and practice diverged


The Russian Federation launched a military special operation in Ukraine based on the Gerasimov military doctrine, which generalizes the experience of modern conflicts. She considers the conduct of hostilities as one of the methods of resolving interstate conflicts along with others. Gerasimov himself, from the experience of the Great Patriotic War, considers only the use of partisan detachments relevant.

The practice of conducting a military special operation revealed much more similarities with the fighting during the Second World War than with the doctrinal calculations of military theorists. I think it would be useful to emphasize some points from the experience of the Stalin period, the neglect of which can be called erroneous. Unfortunately, the shortcomings of the military doctrine of the Stalinist period include the fact that it was not holistically detailed in one document. At least not classified. It was assumed that the book "On the Great Patriotic War of the Soviet Union" authored by Stalin, published in millions of copies, and other articles and speeches of the leader on the topic would be studied. Therefore, for the most part, I will retell my understanding of this historical heritage, however, the reader can always easily find official materials from the period 1930-1950s on the net in order to deepen his knowledge.

Three contradictions with the experience of the Great Patriotic War


Thus, the first thing I would like to draw attention to is the general attitude towards the use of armed forces in politics. According to Stalin's military doctrine, there is a clear boundary between peace and the outbreak of hostilities, since "war is the continuation of politics by other means." If you have taken up "other means", the former ones are no longer suitable. If hostilities began, then the whole country should work for victory - that was the logic.

We, on the other hand, preach a different approach: military operations complement the old diplomatic and economic methods of confrontation. This results in a bad situation when in one place soldiers and officers need to go into mortal combat, and in another, officials in expensive suits are fruitless negotiations with the enemy, which can multiply all the sacrifices and efforts to zero. The unity of the army and diplomacy after the outbreak of hostilities is possible only with the signing of an act of unconditional surrender or a similar document that crowns the outcome of the battles.

It follows that after the outbreak of hostilities, all strategic and tactical decisions should be made only on the basis of a military assessment of the situation. Politicians, deputies and officials should not interfere in the decision-making process on the battlefields. Formally, this is how it should be in the Russian Federation, but in fact there are signs that political elites and public opinion are exerting strong pressure on the military.

The second is the role of the economy and the rear. Now in military theories the opinion prevails that the economy and the rear, although they are a necessary component of victory, but their role is significantly blurred by questions of tactics, information warfare and the use of high-tech weapons. According to the classical, Stalinist, ideas, in armed confrontation, the competition of economies wins.

If we take this latter as a starting point, a fundamental point, then there are several critical remarks to the Russian Federation.

Firstly, the government turned out to be unprepared for the arrest of gold and foreign exchange reserves, the withdrawal of Western companies from Russia and its displacement from the world market. These problems are now being solved in an emergency mode.

Secondly, the Russian Federation continues to trade gas and oil with NATO countries that indirectly participate in the military confrontation. Russian oil is being processed into fuel today and tomorrow it will be filled into Ukrainian tanks, with which our soldiers will have to fight. This misalignment of economic and military interests can cost a country dearly.

Thirdly, today the rear for the army is organized only in terms of supplying the armed forces, social support for military personnel and their families. Attempts to rally society in the face of the threat of the enemy so far look weak and even pathetic. On the contrary, the first persons of the state inspire the population that everything is in order, a military special operation is just a local event that does not affect everyday life. How reasonable such a policy, time will tell, we only note the discrepancies in the old Soviet and modern approaches.

The military affairs of the state, Frunze wrote, up to the doctrine on the basis of which its armed forces are built, is a reflection of its entire way of life and, ultimately, its economic life as the primary source of all forces and resources.

The third is the moral and political training of our soldiers. There are signs that the army has returned to the principle of "follow the orders of the commander, not your mind, the goals and objectives of the operation." True, in the course of hostilities there was a natural increase in consciousness, as the enemy lost his human appearance more and more every day, and pictures of the struggle against European fascism were resurrected in historical memory.

Unfortunately, the attitude towards the enemy has become an unfortunate miscalculation of political preparation. The statement of the country's leadership at the beginning of the special operation that no strikes would be made on the barracks, and that fire would be used sparingly, directly contradicts the experience of the Great Patriotic War. So, on May 1, 1942, Stalin's order stated the following:

There was a turning point in the rank and file of the Red Army. The complacency and carelessness towards the enemy, which took place in the first months of the Patriotic War, disappeared. The atrocities, robberies and violence committed by the Nazi invaders against the civilian population and Soviet prisoners of war cured our fighters from this disease. The fighters became angrier and more merciless. They learned to really hate the Nazi invaders. They realized that you cannot defeat the enemy without learning to hate him with all the strength of the soul.

The order is silent about the role that the propaganda organs and the orders of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief played in this insight. But the fact is important for us: then - "you cannot defeat the enemy without learning to hate him" (Stalin), now - "even the barracks where the Ukrainian military personnel are located are not subject to any attack, any blows" (Lavrov). Obviously, in the first case, there is a purely military approach to the matter, and in the second, a purely political one.

There are other contradictions between the approach of the Stalinist USSR and modern Russia to combat operations. In my opinion, work should be done on the mistakes, taking into account the victorious experience of previous generations.
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  1. Indifferent Offline Indifferent
    Indifferent 15 May 2022 09: 27
    +12
    I agree with the author 100% That's right! There is nothing to comment on here!
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 19 May 2022 10: 41
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      Let me comment:

      Gerasimov himself, from the experience of the Great Patriotic War, considers only the use of partisan detachments relevant.

      Where are these partisan detachments? And where are the blowing up of bridges, railways and roads to prevent the delivery of manpower and equipment to the Eastern Front? This could have been done from the very beginning, thereby disarming the Donetsk grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But for some reason this was not done.
  2. Lev Rudey Offline Lev Rudey
    Lev Rudey (Lev Rudey) 15 May 2022 10: 38
    +6
    Well, at least SOMEONE more or less objectively described what was happening.
  3. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 May 2022 10: 55
    +7
    The author has touched the very tip of the “iceberg” of the problem.
    In my opinion, what is going on now is not a war, and not even a special operation, but their “image” for external and internal audiences. Moreover, it is not known which of them is the target.
    One gets the impression that the purpose of the operation is not to succeed, but rather to show the people that everything possible is being done, while not affecting the economy and financial flows (including payments to the West on public debt - in addition to the amounts he himself stole).
    The main absurdity in this "war" is the absence of any influence on our main enemy, who is waging this entire campaign against us. We do not even dare to threaten him, and we do not put forward any more demands.
    This war is “strange”, already according to the initial assumptions of one of its main participants – Russia, which diligently does not touch its enemy, but at the same time devoutly spends its human and material resources in the “voiler” allotted for this purpose by the West.
    As if Ukraine is running out of "trump cards" prepared for us by the Hegemon.
    We are accustomed to consider all this as just a mistake of leadership. Are there too many for such an explanation?
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 May 2022 11: 30
      +3
      I will give a non-exhaustive list of actions of the country's leadership that are incomprehensible to me:

      1. Preservation of a significant part of foreign exchange reserves in the currency of the main enemy on the eve of the presentation of an ultimatum to him in December 2021.
      Contradicts the need to maintain foreign exchange reserves for the purchase of imported equipment.

      2. Presenting an ultimatum in the conditions of refusing to use the only means for its success - US nuclear blackmail
      Actions for an internal audience that are not designed to achieve success

      3. Transfer by the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation to the West on 1.05.22. the next payment on the public debt of 564,8 million dollars (in dollars!). In addition to the assets stolen by the West earlier, we have $300 billion worth of assets.
      Contradicts the need to replenish lost foreign exchange reserves for the purchase of imported equipment.

      4. Deployment of a special operation in Ukraine in the absence of isolation of the combat area from the supply of weapons and manpower from the West through the borders of neighboring countries. The problem has not been resolved so far.
      Falling into an obvious trap set by the West.
      There are no words

      5. Deployment of a special operation in Ukraine in the conditions of a real possibility of the West putting forward total economic sanctions and economic isolation of the country by the West even before the end of the operation.
      Falling into an obvious trap set by the West.
      There are no words

      6. The absence of a decisive strategic significance of the operation in Ukraine for appeasement and forcing the US to compromise.

      7. The absence of any attempts to force the United States to fulfill the requirements of our December ultimatum and, in general, any pressure on them, as our main adversary.
      Lack of action aimed at solving our main problem.

      8. Russia's official renunciation of the threat to the United States of a nuclear war, as a tool for forcing our main enemy to retreat and a just peace:
      - Joint statement by Russia as part of the nuclear five on the prevention of nuclear war by its participants on January 3.01.2022, XNUMX
      - Numerous Foreign Ministry statements
      The political deprivation of themselves of the opportunity to use this proven by the USSR in 1962 effective tool in the short term.
      1. Living7111972 Offline Living7111972
        Living7111972 (Salavat Siraev) 15 May 2022 21: 34
        0
        They just don't care about the Kremlin's concerns -

        Romuald Sheremetyev also pointed out that after Finland and Sweden join NATO, the bloc will have new tasks. At the same time, Poland's positions on the eastern flank will become much stronger.
        As for the possible reaction of Russia, the military expert expressed the opinion that Moscow supposedly does not have any serious arguments. And "it is not worth listening to its threats with nuclear weapons."
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 15 May 2022 18: 51
      0
      These "mistakes" do not seem random to me. They, unfortunately, fit into a certain system.
      In my opinion, there are two possible explanations:
      - a country dominated by big business, which "squeezes" it like a lemon before throwing it away
      - the country's leadership has agreed with the West on its surrender, or hopes for such an agreement, everything that happens is done for visibility and reassurance of the population
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    3. Living7111972 Offline Living7111972
      Living7111972 (Salavat Siraev) 15 May 2022 21: 31
      0
      Everything is very strange
  4. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 15 May 2022 10: 56
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    "Disagree" with the Author 100%:

    War is the continuation of politics by other means.

    (Karl von Clausewitz)

    What "policy" of the current leadership of the Russian Federation (to which there is no alternative) - having the goal of breaking unipolarity while ... peaceful coexistence with the enemy (?) - such is the confrontation with NATO in Ukraine.
    And in politics: there is no turning back!
  5. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 15 May 2022 11: 14
    +5
    The author essentially explained why the RVS have been marking time for three months and partially transferred the war to our territory. Humanistic phobias do not help to fight, but increase our losses. Either we feel sorry for the VSUshnikov, or the railways, or something else. And for the Nazis, the supply of weapons and fuel is faster than it can be destroyed.
  6. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 15 May 2022 11: 23
    +4
    The author is right, of course. But when Putin blames Lenin-Stalin for all the troubles, it is doubtful that the NVO will follow a different scenario. For three months, Putin, Gerasimov and Lavrov prove to us that they are smarter than Stalin!
  7. stim Offline stim
    stim (Sergei) 15 May 2022 12: 23
    -6
    What is the author calling for? Fight like Stalin! But in order to fight in the Stalinist way, it is necessary to change the social political system in Russia, and the change of the socio-political system in a warring country is a guaranteed quick defeat, we already went through this in 1917. That's what the author is calling for!
    1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
      Michael L. 15 May 2022 13: 04
      +3
      Alternative: guaranteed ... delayed defeat?
  8. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 15 May 2022 12: 53
    +1
    The thing is that two feudal countries are at war, in which the socialist worldview has not yet floated away, like - you and I are of the same blood, you and I. That is, the government of the two countries can reconcile with each other, and the people do not care what one or the other. On the part of Russia, this was a test to see if the people would fight for the feudal lords, and also to check if there would be a revolution, if there were reasons for its occurrence. Therefore, large forces are not being sent to the front. It is also expected that there will suddenly be a riot, as in one or the other side, and of course they will help one another to destroy this riot. This is not a war of countries, this is a war of oligarchs. This is reminiscent of the situation when a revolution took place in France and the Germans helped the French capitalists to destroy it. Now is not a war of ideas and the salvation of the people, this is a war to seize territory.
  9. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
    aslanxnumx (Aslan) 15 May 2022 13: 43
    +7
    Russia does not have the strength, desire and ability to carry out operations on the level of the Second World War. Putin does not reach Stalin, even 5 percent of Stalin's level is not enough, and we would not even be a lieutenant.
    1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
      Pat Rick 15 May 2022 15: 11
      -5
      Putin falls short of Stalin, even 5 percent of Stalin's level is not enough

      Yes, yes, it was precisely because of the "Stalin level" that in 1941 the Red Army lost millions of its personnel, in 1942 it retreated to the Caucasus, and the entire Second World War from the summer of 1941 to the summer of 1944 went on the territory of the USSR.
      1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
        aslanxnumx (Aslan) 15 May 2022 17: 55
        +3
        Stalin didn’t command every platoon, company, battalion, and it’s not his fault for everything that happened at the beginning of the war. And our losses at the moment correspond to the official ones. over military equipment, the red stars were removed. And first of all, I consider myself a Soviet officer and only then Russian
        1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
          Pat Rick 15 May 2022 18: 26
          -3
          Stalin did not command every platoon, company, battalion, and it was not his fault in everything that happened at the beginning of the war.

          Platoon, company and battalion just died in the hundreds of thousands, as they were commanded by people with diamonds in their buttonholes, personally appointed by Stalin. He blamed all the failures of the first period of the war on them, shooting them in batches. Therefore, the fault is primarily his, since all personnel changes in the high command were closed on him.

          And the main question is you will go on the attack shouting for Putin

          And in modern warfare, you definitely have to shout, for whom are you going on the attack? In my opinion, they have been fighting silently for a long time.

          And why the Red Banner again flies over military equipment, the red stars have been removed.

          Hello, there are "Z" and "V" marks on the military equipment, applied with white paint, and not the Red Banner. Red stars are on Russian aircraft.

          And first of all, I consider myself a Soviet officer and only then Russian

          And you can also consider yourself a centurion of Caesar or a condottiere of Gattamelata. lol
          1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
            aslanxnumx (Aslan) 15 May 2022 21: 46
            -1
            there are no red stars on our equipment for a long time, but white ones. Probably from the top of Edro
            1. aslanxnumx Offline aslanxnumx
              aslanxnumx (Aslan) 15 May 2022 21: 48
              +2
              And Stalin can be criticized, but under him the fronts were not designated in Latin letters
              1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
                Pat Rick 15 May 2022 22: 50
                -3
                I didn’t “chail” Stalin, but I cited well-known facts that cannot be refuted.
                If there was a "time machine", then I would have launched you in 1946, in the eastern regions of the USSR, where you would cut wood with a two-handed saw in 40-degree frost, serving a 15-year sentence under Article 58.
                Then you would better feel the "romance of that era" in your own skin.
  10. yakisam Offline yakisam
    yakisam (Alexander) 15 May 2022 13: 50
    +4
    I agree with the author 100%
    The author's problem is that "his 100%" is far from 100% reality, and even more so - the military "doctrine" in Stalin's understanding.
    Stalin's understanding of the military policy of the USSR was based on the fact that this is the policy of the Soviet government.
    That is, this is not a theory of actions of ANY state, but ONLY of the Soviet state, the power in which belongs to the working people and is exercised by the bodies of Soviet power and, accordingly, THROUGH these and ONLY these bodies.
    Without Soviet power, 100% turn into a "special case", because, for example, all the measures of economic and social regulation that were in the USSR were also in Germany, in England - this is called a mobilization economy. But without Soviet power, a united Europe could not resist the onslaught of the USSR. Because the matter is in the "little things" - Soviet power
    Stalin is not "just Stalin" - Stalin is not just a "manager" of the state, "called" Soviet - this is the CREATOR OF THE SOVIET STATE
    So the question of "Stalinist" experience and theory is not worth it. There is simply no one to carry them out, and most importantly, they are designed to destroy what is the enemy of the working people and socialism. The conclusion is clear...
    Pay attention to Stalin's terminology in the above quotes: "Atrocities, robberies and violence committed ... against Soviet prisoners of war" - Stalin clearly says that these are SOVIET prisoners of war - these are the defenders of Soviet power and at the same time representatives of Soviet power, and not prisoners of war "in general" or even "prisoners of war of the Red Army". The war was waged not by "Russia" and not by "the people in general" - it was the Soviet government that defended the Motherland. Soviet power is the basis of our people's state, and the basis of the modern Russian state is the ANTI-Soviet basis, aimed even in the face of the threat of the collapse of the state - to prevent the restoration of Soviet power at any cost.
  11. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
    Pat Rick 15 May 2022 15: 05
    -2
    The military ceased to properly study the work of Stalin, Voroshilov as military leaders, the orders of the Supreme Commander and the evolution of the doctrinal approach from the time of Frunze to the defeat of the Kwantung Army.

    I somehow don’t remember what battles the Red Army won in the Second World War under the leadership of such a “powerful” military leader as the “first Soviet officer” Klim Voroshilov. In my opinion, there, all the troops under his "talented" command were always attacked by a terrible fox.
    1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
      Michael L. 15 May 2022 17: 06
      -1
      The quote does not mention Voroshilov, but Frunze.
      Something with my memory has become
      Everything that was not with me, I remember
      ?
      ;-(
      1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
        Pat Rick 15 May 2022 18: 35
        -3
        The military ceased to study adequately the works of Stalin, Voroshilov as military leaders,

        I find it difficult to say what is worse for you: with vision or with reading comprehension.
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        2. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
          Michael L. 15 May 2022 19: 01
          -1
          You have a problem with the justification: Frunze - did not lose anything, but the theorist Voroshilov - was on the sidelines and therefore also did not lose anything!
          You also need to be smart!
          1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
            Pat Rick 15 May 2022 19: 30
            -2
            On the 50th anniversary of Stalin, Voroshilov published an article "Stalin and the Red Army" (1929), in which Stalin is presented as one of the most outstanding "organizers of the victories of the civil war", as a "real strategist", as a "first-class organizer and military leader" with brilliant insight. As the doctor of historical sciences S. V. Lipitsky notes, all the provisions of this article by Voroshilov were “as if canonized and developed” in the “Short Course on the History of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks”, in Voroshilov’s article on the 60th anniversary of Stalin, the article “Stalin and the construction of the Red Army ", as well as in the repeatedly published "short biography" of Stalin.
            1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
              Michael L. 15 May 2022 19: 39
              0
              In my opinion, there, all the troops under his "talented" command were always attacked by a terrible fox.

              And where in the quote is the "arc fox" under the command of ... the theorist Voroshilov?
              "In my opinion" Winston Churchill was right:

              By arguing the present with the past, we find that we have lost the future.
              1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
                Pat Rick 15 May 2022 23: 00
                -2
                Georgy Zhukov:

                ... It must be said that Voroshilov, the then people's commissar, in this role was a man of little competence. Until the end, he remained an amateur in military matters and never knew them deeply and seriously ...
                1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
                  Michael L. 16 May 2022 10: 12
                  0
                  Inappropriate citation of G. Zhukov - the answer has already been given above.
          2. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
            Pat Rick 16 May 2022 22: 52
            0
            but the theorist Voroshilov - was on the sidelines and therefore did not lose anything either!

            Under the leadership of the "theorist" Voroshilov, who had an education in the 2nd grade of the Zemstvo school (!!!), the Red Army suppressed the so-called Kronstadt rebellion in 1921: the losses of the Reds were huge.
            And also the glorious "theorist" was the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR. His command of the defense ended in May 1940, after the Finnish War, in which the losses of the Red Army (according to some estimates) were five (!!!) times higher than the losses of the Finnish army.
    2. yakisam Offline yakisam
      yakisam (Alexander) 15 May 2022 23: 15
      +2
      Then you don't know anything about this person, which is a pity.
      It's just that he was one of those people who didn't particularly demand that their actions be necessarily promoted in the Telegram :) In addition, he carried out such events, the secrecy of which is still ... great.
      For example, who today remembers that it was Voroshilov's talent as a diplomat that ensured Turkey's REFUSAL from participating in the war on the side of Germany? It's not even in the textbooks....
      Have you heard about the existence of such a city as Leningrad? Well, if Voroshilov had not led his defense, then there would not have been such a city. True, some other Grand Marshal after him almost "fixed" and Leningrad still had to be defended "in Leningrad", and not "in front of Leningrad" :) It's good that the Grand Marshal had to ... be removed from Leningrad.
      Finally, Voroshilov, in fact, on 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX served as deputy chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR, and only therefore he PERSONALLY did not command units and formations, this post is THREE levels higher than even the commander of the front. Voroshilov was "only" a member of the State Defense Committee of the USSR, which, for example, was not even the deputy of the Supreme High Command Zhukov G.K. - that is, one of the four leaders of the country, in whose hands, I QUOTE: "Concentrate all power in the state in the hands of the State Defense Committee."
      Agree, it is strange to be ironic over the head of the country that he did not command the troops? "Under a talented command ...". The irony is still ... causing irony.
      Who else will tell you that Voroshilov 07.05.1940/XNUMX/XNUMX. handed over the post of People's Commissar of Defense to Timoshenko and was appointed Chairman of the specially created Defense Committee under the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR, the most secret body so far - A YEAR before the start of the war, a body was created that began to prepare the COUNTRY for war (not just the army), for example, prepared the evacuation - the most fantastic procedure in the history of mankind for moving heavy industry to a new location in a few months ... This body was led by Voroshilov!
      Just in the era of fairy tales about how "Stalin was not ready" and "Stalin was confused" is it strange to be allowed to remember that the Defense Committee was created a year before the war, and the evacuation of enterprises began a year before the war? Yes, in the era of nanotechnology rise from the knees, this is somehow inconvenient. It's easier to talk about "stupid commies" and make fun of the talents of "first officers".
      In general, try to understand the activities of a person who was the FIRST in tsarist Russia who was able to establish Soviet power in an entire region, and so implement it that even the tsarist government was forced to remove all charges of a material nature from him, condemning him only for "politics".
      This is also not taught in school. And what for? It is easier to say that Voroshilov is a military leader under whose command nothing is won...
      Good luck!
      1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
        Pat Rick 16 May 2022 14: 47
        -2
        try to understand the activities of a person who was the FIRST in Tsarist Russia who was able to establish Soviet power in an entire region,

        Until October 1917, your Voroshilov was a bandit.
        The same as Kotovsky and many other "fiery Bolsheviks".
        And after October 17th he became a folk hero.
  12. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 May 2022 17: 09
    -6
    Stalin's military doctrine and special operation of the Russian Federation

    Retreat to Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad, then with incredible efforts and sacrifices to drive the enemy out of their territory? That's the plan for me.
    1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
      Michael L. 15 May 2022 17: 18
      +1
      Occupy the whole of Europe, capture the European part of Russia and Stalingrad ... where you can't reach the Volga ... 200 meters (!) - and ... lose the war!
      So-so plan - "spring platoon"!
      Germany was the second economy in the world, for which the industry of all of Europe worked!
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 May 2022 17: 26
        -2
        Quote from Mikhail L.
        Occupy the whole of Europe, capture the European part of Russia and Stalingrad ... where you can't reach the Volga ... 200 meters (!) - and ... lose the war!
        So-so plan - "spring platoon"!

        I agree, there was a complete adventure on the part of Aloisych.

        Quote from Mikhail L.
        Germany was the second economy in the world, for which the industry of all of Europe worked!

        In fact, the third, the second was the USSR.
        1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
          Michael L. 15 May 2022 17: 40
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          An unfounded statement that has nothing to do with reality!
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 May 2022 17: 54
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            Quote from Mikhail L.
            An unfounded statement that has nothing to do with reality!

            What are you talking about?
            1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
              Michael L. 15 May 2022 18: 18
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              Isn't it clear. In fact, the third, the second was the USSR.
              1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 May 2022 20: 33
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                Do not belittle the USSR. Before the war, he produced more tanks than all the rest of the world put together.
                1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
                  Michael L. 16 May 2022 10: 24
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                  This is private!
                  In 1940, Germany smelted 31 million tons of steel, and the USSR - 18 million tons.
                  1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 16 May 2022 10: 49
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                    By the beginning of the 40s, the Soviet Union had overcome the absolute backlog from the largest states of Western Europe in terms of the production of the main types of industrial products. The production of electricity, fuel, steel, cement in 1940 exceeded the corresponding indicators of Germany, England and France, or came close to them. In absolute terms, the United States alone produced much more industrial output than the USSR.

                    https://litvek.com/book-read/240502-kniga-vadim-zaharovich-rogovin-mirovaya-revolyutsiya-i-mirovaya-voyna-chitat-online?p=4

                    1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
                      Michael L. 16 May 2022 13: 24
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                      If Germany and the USSR smelted the same - 18 million tons of steel each - then the table contains dubious data.
                      I am in Ukraine, and I cannot give "normal" figures, because sites with information on this topic are blocked here.
                      But I have an academic publication at hand: the book "The Great Patriotic War of the Soviet Union 1941-1945. A Brief History." On page 570, it provides data on steel production in 1940: 31-32 million tons - Germany and 18 million tons - the USSR.
                      Whom to believe?
                      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 16 May 2022 22: 45
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                        Quote from Mikhail L.
                        I am in Ukraine, and I cannot give "normal" figures, because sites with information on this topic are blocked here.

                        What are these sites? VPN help. In the Russian Federation, many people have been using it for a long time.

                        Quote from Mikhail L.
                        book "The Great Patriotic War of the Soviet Union 1941-1945. A Brief History". On page 570, it provides data on steel production in 1940: 31-32 million tons - Germany and 18 million tons - the USSR.

                        The Great Patriotic War of the Soviet Union 1941-1945: A Brief History. - 3rd ed., Rev. and additional - M .: Military Publishing, 1984. - 560 with., ill. Circulation 250 copies.

                        What year is the edition?

                        Perhaps it means Germany with its allies. Soviet historiography promoted the idea of ​​the overwhelming superiority of Germany, and statistics were adjusted to this.
                        In any case, Germany 1939 and Germany 1941 are two big differences. These two years clearly went more to Germany's advantage. The foreign policy strategy of the USSR failed.

                        The front of the second imperialist war is ever expanding. One nation after another is drawn into it. Humanity is heading towards great battles that will unleash a world revolution. The end of this second war will be marked by the final rout of the old, capitalist world. And between the two millstones - the Soviet Union, menacingly rising in all its gigantic growth, and the indestructible wall of revolutionary democracy, rising to its aid - the remnants of the capitalist system will be turned into dust and dust.
                      2. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
                        Michael L. 17 May 2022 07: 58
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                        VPN - blocking does not break through, like the TOR browser.
                        Steel smelting in France is given "correctly": for ... 1937.
                        This is already saying something!

                        Obviously the intention to humiliate the USSR.
                        And the arguments are selected "relevant".
                        I consider the discussion useless, especially since I do not have access to alternative information!
                      3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 17 May 2022 23: 17
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                        Quote from Mikhail L.
                        VPN - blocking does not break through, like the TOR browser.

                        What a cool analogue of "Roskomnadzor" in Ukraine! The Chinese firewall could not block the VPN, the Russian Roskomnadzor could not, and the Ukrainian one could. How do ATMs work in general for you?

                        Quote from Mikhail L.
                        Obviously the intention to humiliate the USSR.
                        And the arguments are selected "relevant".
                        I consider the discussion useless, especially since I do not have access to alternative information!

                        I agree, when the worldview has developed, it is difficult to perceive information that contradicts this worldview. It can even cause cognitive dissonance, depression. Why would we disturb your peace of mind.
  • guest Offline guest
    guest 15 May 2022 17: 23
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    Well, so that this does not happen again, and began the NWO.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 May 2022 17: 27
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      Funny. You are a comedian.
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 15 May 2022 17: 33
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        You yourself are a humorist, the West was preparing Ukraine for an attack on Russia in such a way that the NWO was a preventive action.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 May 2022 17: 38
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          Quote: guest
          the West was preparing Ukraine for an attack on Russia

          Do you believe in it? Really?
          1. guest Offline guest
            guest 15 May 2022 17: 39
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            There are documents confirming this.
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 May 2022 17: 48
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              What are these documents?
              Do you really think that the twenty-second army of the world was going to attack the second army of the world with the largest nuclear arsenal? They are crazy?
              1. guest Offline guest
                guest 15 May 2022 17: 54
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                Well, for example, a document on military assistance to Ukraine from the United States was created back in January. There are also documents about the beginning of the offensive of Ukraine to the Crimea and Donbass.
                1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                  Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 May 2022 20: 06
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                  Quote: guest
                  Well, for example, a document on military assistance to Ukraine from the United States was created back in January.

                  Yes Yes. The document was titled like if the Russian Federation attacks Ukraine, then help will be provided.

                  Quote: guest
                  There are also documents about the beginning of the offensive of Ukraine to the Crimea and Donbass.

                  Can you link?

                  You didn't answer the main question

                  Quote: Oleg Rambover
                  Do you really think that the twenty-second army of the world was going to attack the second army of the world with the largest nuclear arsenal? They are crazy?
              2. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
                EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 15 May 2022 18: 13
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                I apologize for interfering... It's not a secret that Ukraine was preparing for the "liberation" of Donbass, isn't it? And with that alignment of forces (with Russia's non-intervention), it would not have taken much time. Ukraine prepared very well. Do you think that after such a victory and on a wave of euphoria, you can stop? Then everything is simple (not to go to Moscow, although this is their cherished dream), to "liberate" the Crimea. And they would go for it. Not because they wanted to, but because the owners said so. "I think so". I do not impose my opinion on anyone.
                1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                  Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 May 2022 20: 23
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                  Quote: EVYN WIXH
                  It's no secret that Ukraine was preparing for the "liberation" of Donbass?

                  Where did you underline this "not a secret!? Such a" liberation" would certainly lead to a clash with the RF Armed Forces. International support for such a "liberation" would be clearly lower. Victory would be little real for Ukraine. Then the expression "second army of the world" meant exactly the second army of the world without any sarcasm (for Ukrainians).

                  Quote: EVYN WIXH
                  Not because they wanted to, but because the owners said so.

                  Let's argue.
                  Ukrainians and Russians are one people, as our president claims. So we can say that Russians and Ukrainians are very similar. So we can say that Russians and Ukrainians react approximately the same way to the outside world. Let's imagine someone told you to bang your head against the wall until you lose consciousness. Will you follow this order? I think it's unlikely. But why are you sure that such an order of some kind of owners (who is it?) Will be carried out by the Ukrainians?
                  1. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 15 May 2022 21: 55
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                    Oleg Rambover, let's better imagine how the owner will flog you when you do not fulfill his desire. Or not pay, and the economy is destroyed. laughing
                  2. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
                    EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 21 May 2022 15: 15
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                    Are you so naive that you think that at least something is decided by the people? Are you pretending not to know the owners of Ukraine? Or you just work out your salary competently. Maybe you have the same owner. And they prepared thoroughly for the war, that you did not see this (or did not want to) - your problem. The scenario with support was developed in advance and the perpetrators were already assigned, regardless of the course of events. Your arguments are not very convincing. At the beginning of the last century there was a Civil War in Russia, there was one people. Has it stopped anyone? Or did the people themselves decide to fight? There were owners (maybe they were called differently) who managed everything. It's unavoidable.
                    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 23 May 2022 01: 39
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                      Quote: EVYN WIXH
                      Are you so naive that you think that at least something is decided by the people?

                      I am not so naive as to think that nothing depends on citizens. If this were the case, then in the last dictatorships such as the Stalinist USSR, they would not spend so many resources on propaganda and the development of culture in the right way.

                      Quote: EVYN WIXH
                      Are you pretending not to know the owners of Ukraine?

                      I know that Ukrainians do not have masters (as well as Russians) (what does "masters of Ukraine" even mean?). And even more so, they do not have owners who can force them to beat their heads against the wall until they lose consciousness or force them to attack the Russian Federation, whose army is several times larger than the Ukrainian one in all respects and which can physically destroy a country much larger than Ukraine. .

                      Quote: EVYN WIXH
                      And they prepared thoroughly for the war, that you did not see this (or did not want to) - your problem.

                      Nobody argues, judging by the successes of the NWO, they were preparing.

                      Quote: EVYN WIXH
                      The scenario with support was developed in advance and the perpetrators were already assigned, regardless of the course of events. Your arguments are not very convincing.

                      So you have no arguments at all. Assuming that Ukraine was going to recapture Crimea by military means, it is necessary to simultaneously assume, without this, in any way, that the entire leadership of Ukraine had had cerebral palsy with serious consequences for the psyche. Only for people with such an ailment may such a plan seem realistic. But apparently the leadership of Ukraine is quite adequate people.

                      Quote: EVYN WIXH
                      At the beginning of the last century there was a Civil War in Russia, there was one people. Has it stopped anyone? Or did the people themselves decide to fight? There were owners (maybe they called them differently), who controlled everything.

                      Do you think that some uncle came and said: "All gentlemen, from tomorrow there will be a civil war"? And the subjects of the Russian Empire, like sheep, went to kill each other? You have a very low opinion of people. And it seems to me that everything is a little more complicated.
          2. guest Offline guest
            guest 27 November 2022 00: 27
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            Parashenko also recently admitted this.
  • yakisam Offline yakisam
    yakisam (Alexander) 15 May 2022 23: 18
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    If we exclude two points from it - to get hit by ALL countries of Europe with the support of all their colonial resources and end the war on the Elbe - then yes, the plan would be "so".
    And given these two ACTUAL circumstances - the plan ... nothing like that. Good. I wouldn't be able to get close. And you?
    1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
      Pat Rick 16 May 2022 22: 05
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      If we exclude two points from it - get hit by ALL countries in Europe backed by all their colonial resources and end the war on the Elbe...

      You repeat your favorite Soso, drilling here about "ALL countries of Europe":
      Britain fought Hitler on two fronts (that is, not ALL anymore), there was a lend-lease program ... and you are humming about colonial resources negative
    2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 16 May 2022 22: 53
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      Quote: yakisam
      If you exclude two points from it - get hit by ALL European countries

      Not all

      Quote: yakisam
      backed by all their colonial resources

      Since September 1939, a continental blockade was introduced, with colonial resources there was tension. Of course, until 22.06.41/XNUMX/XNUMX there was a huge hole in this blockade, but after Germany began to experience a shortage of strategic materials.

      Quote: yakisam
      And given these two ACTUAL circumstances - the plan ... nothing like that. Good. I wouldn't be able to get close. And you?

      Ride the fronts to Stalingrad and back, grinding everything in its path is there nothing so plan? I disagree.
      I have no experience of leading the country for 15 years. What a demand from me.
  • gelerter Offline gelerter
    gelerter (Michael) 15 May 2022 19: 30
    +1
    The nature of the hostilities that is currently being waged in Ukraine is the result of the "optimization" of our army. Of the approximately one million people, we cross out the sailors, the Strategic Missile Forces, and the rear, and it turns out that the entire more or less combat-ready army is now fighting in Ukraine. Hence the war, not by divisions and armies, but by battalion tactical groups, without a front line. And no matter how modern "strategists" explain it, in times of maneuver wars, the tactic of envelopment and wedges remains the main one, and Russia has no strength for them.
    1. Pat Rick Offline Pat Rick
      Pat Rick 16 May 2022 22: 13
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      in times of maneuver wars, the tactic of envelopment and wedges remains the main one,

      Yes really? - And who told you that now "war"? Now - a special military operation ...
      When in the early 80s the SA occupied Kabul with a concentric attack of three tank columns (envelopment tactics), the war did not end there, but only began. Sorry, that was not a war: it was the provision of international assistance to the Afghan people.
  • guest Offline guest
    guest 15 May 2022 21: 00
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    Let's argue.
    Ukrainians and Russians are one people, as our president claims. So we can say that Russians and Ukrainians are very similar. So we can say that Russians and Ukrainians react approximately the same way to the outside world. Let's imagine someone told you to bang your head against the wall until you lose consciousness. Will you follow this order? I think it's unlikely. But why are you sure that such an order of some kind of owners (who is it?) Will be carried out by the Ukrainians?

    There are mentally ill people among all nations, in Russia such characters organize rallies on Bolotnaya Street, and in Ukraine they seized power. These characters are ready for anything on orders from overseas.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 16 May 2022 11: 02
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      Are you a psychiatrist? You know, there is such an article of the constitution, 31

      Citizens of the Russian Federation have the right to assemble peacefully, without weapons, to hold meetings, rallies and demonstrations, marches and pickets.

      It's just you, it's a sign of mental illness. This is not the case for normal people.

      Quote: guest
      and in Ukraine they seized power. These characters are ready for anything on orders from overseas.

      You know, I don’t follow Zelensky like you, maybe that’s why I didn’t notice anything inadequate about him. I watch my president and I don't think his ultimatum at the end of last year and the fact that he quarreled with his main trading partners for the sake of incomprehensible, clearly undefined goals does not seem adequate to me.
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 27 November 2022 00: 15
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        Quote: Oleg Rambover
        It's just you, it's a sign of mental illness. This is not the case for normal people.

        Then it comes out in the West, which you idolize so much, crazy people, they quickly disperse such rallies there, and give the participants real terms.
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 15 May 2022 23: 23
    +2
    Well, another article - an explanation of what is wrong ....
    HPP, everyone should nod at him ...
  • Vladimir1155 Offline Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 (Vladimir) 16 May 2022 07: 35
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    I fully support the respected author! and gas in Ukraine should have been completely turned off from the first day of the war, and if Europe wants gas, then let it launch the northern stream, tired of these effeminate liberals in power, drive them with a filthy broom like in 1937
  • bsk_una Offline bsk_una
    bsk_una (Nick) 16 May 2022 14: 40
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    Fakes from all sides about the NWO, the traitors, as they were in power, are still sitting there. Nobody needs the economy, the main thing is to stuff pockets. The government has labeled flat-bottomed as a sedentary disease. And when and who will roll up their sleeves? And what about the development of new types of weapons? Zapadentsy stuffed Bandera even with the latest types of weapons.
  • guest Offline guest
    guest 18 May 2022 01: 24
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    What a cool analogue of "Roskomnadzor" in Ukraine! The Chinese firewall could not block the VPN, the Russian Roskomnadzor could not, and the Ukrainian one could. How do ATMs work in general for you?

    Overseas owners help them.
  • Storm_2022 Offline Storm_2022
    Storm_2022 (Storm _2022) 18 May 2022 23: 51
    +1
    Russia's attempt to conduct an operation in Ukraine, as well as, for example, in Syria, ran into many contradictions that have developed within Russian society.

    Option 1 (oligarchic) - the bet on the Ukrainian oligarchic elite, which will displace the green-clown and become friends with Russia, failed miserably.
    Such an approach to solving the "Ukrainian issue" was advocated by oligarch businessmen who want to regain their previously lost business and expand their influence in Ukraine.

    Option 2 (Military coup) - the security forces relied on the Ukrainian military, who would remove the oligarchs from governing the country and seize power in Kyiv, even Putin personally called on the Ukrainian military to take power into their own hands in the first days of the special operation, our military was forbidden to fire and bomb command posts, headquarters and barracks.
    But this path also turned out to be wrong, there were no supporters of Russia among the top Ukrainian generals capable of leading the army and society, the "attempt to fraternize with the Armed Forces of Ukraine" led to significant casualties of our servicemen in the first month of the operation.

    Option 3 (how it turns out) full-scale hostilities are underway, cities and towns are being stormed by the troops of the Russian Federation, the DPR and the LPR, a sweep is being carried out from the Nazis, who, leaving, blow up industrial facilities and infrastructure, leaving almost completely destroyed cities and villages.
    Who, on what and when will it be restored? no answers yet?
    Why did tough hostilities against the Armed Forces of Ukraine start from the Donbass?
    Why do the Russians Mariupol, Volnavakha, Rubizhne stand in ruins, and fired several dozen missiles at the hotbeds of Nazism and Bandera (Lviv, Ivano-Frakovsk, Ternopil ....), and then only at the military infrastructure, do we save them for the Poles?