Is it possible to repeat the success of reformatting the Azov region throughout Ukraine


As one of the main reasons why the occupation of Ukraine for the purpose of its denazification and demilitarization is allegedly impossible, our numerous “guardians” who are ready to justify any action or inaction of the authorities, as well as liberals who want Russia to continue to sit quietly in its dusty closet, called the disloyalty of the population Square. Supposedly no one is waiting for us there, so we need to quickly demilitarize Ukraine, somehow denazify and leave as soon as possible. I can't agree with this setting.


The day before, speaking at the Victory Parade on May 9, President Putin delivered a heartfelt speech, where the following was said about the need to launch a special military operation in Ukraine:

I repeat, we have seen how the military infrastructure is unfolding, how hundreds of foreign advisers began to work, there were regular deliveries of the most modern weapons from NATO countries. The danger grew every day. Russia gave a preemptive rebuff to aggression. It was a forced, timely and only right decision. The decision of a sovereign, strong, independent country.

Indeed, the decision to carry out the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine is the only right and forced one, but was it timely?

Let's mentally fast-forward 8 years. The Russian Spring of 2014, later renamed the Crimean Spring, inspired millions of Ukrainians. Remember the huge rallies throughout the South-East, where the number of Russian flags literally dazzled in the eyes. All the Left Bank and Southern Ukraine were themselves ready to join the Russian Federation after the Crimea and Sevastopol. No war, no military special operation, no destruction, no thousands of casualties from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

But, alas, Novorossia was not useful to us then. Here is how Belarusian President Lukashenko now recalls those recent events:

And Putin was offered, before my eyes it was, to go to Transnistria from Donetsk and take the entire south of Ukraine, cut off from the sea, for which they are now fighting. Putin said: "No, I can't agree to that."

Crimea and Sevastopol became part of the Russian Federation in 2014, the DPR and LPR were stuck in an unrecognized status for a long 8 years, subjected to constant shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard, and the rest of Ukraine remained under the rule of the pro-Western neo-Nazi regime. Which immediately began to prepare for war with Russia, constantly increasing the size of the army, trained with the help of NATO specialists. Naturally, we have only made fun of the Armed Forces of Ukraine all these years, and now we have to regret it bitterly.

Ukrainian society itself, alas, has also undergone a dangerous transformation. The most pro-Russian regions - Crimea and Donbass - withdrew from Nezalezhnaya along with the population. An additional 3 million Ukrainian citizens permanently moved to Russia, which the then Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavlo Klimkin deplored in 2019:

Russia is waging war against us, but still three million Ukrainians live in Russia. That is, almost every twelfth Ukrainian is now in Russia. And among them there are many who do not like either Putin or Russia, but believe that they have no other choice. They say: we have been earning money this way all our lives, and we need to understand them... Now there are certain ideas, and we process them in such a way that three million Ukrainians are not permanently in Russia.

Someone, of course, moved to work, however, we note that after receiving the coveted "visa-free" for Ukrainians, labor migration to the countries of Eastern Europe was greatly simplified. Most of those who left Nezalezhnaya for Russia after the Maidan did so in order to be beyond the reach of the neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv and its watchdogs. Pro-Russian Ukrainians were intimidated by monstrous acts of terrorism in their cruelty, such as the ritual burning of people alive in Odessa on May 2, 2014. Others who were transferred to prisons under various pretexts, who were squeezed out, forcing them to emigrate. Those who remained were professionally treated for years with Russophobic propaganda. Among those fighting in the Donbass, there are now those who were still going to school in 2014 and fell victim to brainwashing, having no chance to grow up as a normal person.

But even now, after all these "purges", there are still many in Ukraine who will be sincerely ready to raise the Russian flag when Russian troops arrive. Quite rightly fearing for their well-being, freedom and even life, such people prefer to keep quiet and shout, when required, Nazi “chants”. For the fact that they then quickly put on a “Budennovka”, they cannot be condemned. Only those who have been in their place under the rule of the Nazis, openly “protected” by the West, can judge their behavior and the choice they have made.

Let's look at two strikingly different examples of how to and not to behave in the liberated territories. In the North of Ukraine, Russian troops almost reached Kyiv, but then they were completely withdrawn and transferred to the Donbass. Dmitry Peskov, a spokesman for President Putin, commented on the decision as follows:

To create favorable conditions for negotiations, we wanted to make a goodwill gesture. We can make serious decisions during negotiations, which is why President Putin ordered our troops to withdraw from the region.

As gratitude for this “goodwill gesture”, the Ukrainian Nazis staged a completely real “massacre in Bucha”, in which, of course, the Russian troops were blamed. A direct consequence of this provocation was the decision of the United States, the European Union and other countries allied to them to begin deliveries of heavy weapons to Kyiv. At the same time, the fake about the alleged guilt of Russia in the massacre of the inhabitants of Bucha was not confirmed, but this no longer worries anyone.

Conclusion: it is not necessary to behave like this in the already liberated territories! If President Putin had said that our troops would stay there forever and not leave, nothing like this would have happened. But no one promised anything to the Ukrainians, and therefore no military-civilian administrations were even created there, about the need for which all those involved trumpeted everything.

Things turned differently in Kherson and in the south of Zaporozhye regions. Leaving the Sea of ​​Azov is, in principle, unthinkable, otherwise Crimea will again be left without water and reliable overland communication with the main part of Russia. The region is under the close protection of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and it is not allowed to shoot with impunity by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, like the DNR and LNR all the past 8 years. Almost immediately, the actual integration of the Azov region into the Russian financial andeconomic system. Our mobile communication comes, the Internet stretches. In Kyiv, they immediately understood everything correctly and treated the Kherson region as a cut piece. And notice how quickly the mood of the inhabitants of the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov changed.

If in the first weeks there were rallies with local residents violently waving yellow-blue "rags", then on May 9, people came to the Victory Parade en masse already with the Red Banners of Victory and Russian tricolors. It took some 2,5 months, during which the Ukrainian state symbols were removed and the Russian media began their work!

Of course, one should not expect such a miraculous effect somewhere in Galicia, but the entire historical New Russia can still be successfully reformatted. With long-term hard work on denazification, Central Ukraine, also known as Little Russia, will be rebuilt. A lot of time was spent ineptly, huge victims and destruction could have been avoided if other, correct and timely decisions had been made in 2014, but even now it is not quite too late. Only the price will be paid much higher.
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  1. FGJCNJK Offline FGJCNJK
    FGJCNJK (Nikolai) 10 May 2022 14: 59
    +4
    All this can happen, but about strikes on decision-making centers, there is no more need to "BLAG" about it. For this "LYAPANIE" Russia is paying with the lives of its fairly young citizens. But they could create families and raise children for the joy of their parents!
    1. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 10 May 2022 19: 17
      -4
      the inhabitants of Lukoml and Vologda could also create families and raise children if Khmelnitsky and Sagaidach had no other opinion on this matter ... to rob, kill and trade in slaves.
  2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 10 May 2022 15: 00
    -1
    Quote: FGJCNJK
    that's just about strikes on decision-making centers "BLUG" is no longer necessary. For this "LYAPANIE" Russia is paying with the lives of its fairly young citizens.

    What’s this all about?
    1. nov_tech.vrn Offline nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn (Michael) 10 May 2022 18: 51
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      Do not argue with the training manual, this is the same Kolya as you are Ivan the Terrible.
      1. nov_tech.vrn Offline nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn (Michael) 10 May 2022 19: 48
        0
        I stuck it in the wrong place, but I can not remove it. so be Marzhetsky Ivan the Terrible
  3. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 10 May 2022 15: 06
    +2
    Judging by the eight-year experience of the Donbass, the Russian authorities still need at least eight years to digest what the author described in relation to Little Russia (central Ukraine)
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 10 May 2022 18: 21
      +1
      I hope they fit in 8 months. In awareness.
    2. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 10 May 2022 19: 26
      -1
      there is a period of 700 years of betrayal of this central Ukraine ... if the Russian government does not figure it out, then the betrayal and murder of Russians will continue for 800 and 900 years.
  4. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. 10 May 2022 15: 19
    -3
    President Putin delivered a heartfelt speech

    The author began with the need to occupy the whole of Ukraine, but ultimately excluded its Western part.
    And in order to reformat the pro-Western consciousness of the inhabitants of Central Ukraine, there is no need to occupy the territory ... where a guerrilla war is quite likely!
    1. dpu Offline dpu
      dpu (Andrei) 10 May 2022 18: 19
      0
      In general, the western part needs to be leveled and plowed.
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 10 May 2022 18: 20
      +1
      ? The author began with the need to occupy the whole of Ukraine, but ultimately excluded its Western part.

      I did not write about ALL Ukraine. Mikhail, I am not changing my position on memory. I think that for the Russian world this is a cut piece. That is where the partisanship will be.

      And in order to reformat the pro-Western consciousness of the inhabitants of Central Ukraine, there is no need to occupy the territory ... where a guerrilla war is quite likely!

      Is it like this? Specifically?
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  5. Yuriy88 Offline Yuriy88
    Yuriy88 (Yuri) 10 May 2022 16: 26
    -7
    once again I am surprised at the "mind and insight" of this author!) I would advise you to simply state the obvious things, and not fantasize. Yes, the entire Azov region, including the Kherson region, will never return to Ukraine (if it still exists at all)! Yes, Odessa may have to be stormed if the local Jews and the Ukrainian urban masses are not afraid for their good satiety (this is no longer the LDNR, where they didn’t feel sorry for anything!) And they don’t surrender the city !! Further, what "operations in 2014, what kind of" support "??? support of "pro-Russian citizens" - yes, there was none! There was passivity and that's all. Why didn't we go to Tbilisi in 2014?! Because we were weak and the Western powers warned us (Zhirinovsky's testimony!) "you will choke in blood" .. So Here, We have learned the lessons! Ukraine was preparing and We were preparing! It's simple.. Our economy has not collapsed, the army is fighting on a new technological basis, although there are mistakes * like with Moscow!).
    1. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 10 May 2022 19: 29
      -1
      Odessa was not stormed during the Second World War, and now they will not be stormed ... raguli will run away, the natives will change their shoes.
  6. Vox Populi Offline Vox Populi
    Vox Populi (vox populi) 10 May 2022 17: 52
    +2
    Let's mentally fast-forward 8 years. The Russian Spring of 2014, later renamed the Crimean Spring, inspired millions of Ukrainians. Remember the huge rallies throughout the South-East, where the number of Russian flags literally dazzled in the eyes. All the Left Bank and Southern Ukraine were themselves ready to join the Russian Federation after the Crimea and Sevastopol. No war, no military special operation, no destruction, no thousands of casualties from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    A lot of time was spent ineptly, huge victims and destruction could have been avoided if other, correct and timely decisions had been made in 2014but even now it's not too late. Only the price will be paid much higher.

    This is understandable to any sober-minded and elementary knowledgeable person ...
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 10 May 2022 18: 18
      +4
      It is not clear to the guard Yury88. And the liberal Oleg Pitersky is incomprehensible.
      Maybe they are not quite sober-minded people?
  7. Mikhail Novikov Offline Mikhail Novikov
    Mikhail Novikov (Mikhail Novikov) 10 May 2022 18: 01
    -2
    As for the “miss with Moscow,” the question is far from obvious and not at all closed. Today, the most likely version is a floating mine. And about Ukrainian missiles, drones, etc. declare it a "success". In fact, the main arguments they cite are the "defencelessness" of the cruiser from air attack, "weak air defense", "the cruiser was left without protection", etc. But the cruiser, in addition to having its own air defense, was in the zone of action of the Sevastopol air defense, which covers not only Odessa, but also half of Romania and is on round-the-clock combat readiness.The results of the work of the Russian air defense units are visible, at least, on the example of the island "Snake", where everything was shot down and drowned in general, that Ukraine tried to use, and at night (in particular, 29 UAVs).
  8. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 10 May 2022 18: 16
    +4
    Quote: Yuri88
    once again I am surprised at the "mind and insight" of this author!) I would advise you to simply state the obvious things, and not fantasize. Yes, the entire Azov region, including the Kherson region, will never return to Ukraine (if it still exists at all)! Yes, Odessa may have to be stormed if the local Jews and the Ukrainian urban masses are not afraid for their good satiety (this is no longer the LDNR, where they didn’t feel sorry for anything!) And they don’t surrender the city !! Further, what "operations in 2014, what kind of" support "??? support of "pro-Russian citizens" - yes, there was none! There was passivity and that's all. Why didn't we go to Tbilisi in 2014?! Because we were weak and the Western powers warned us (Zhirinovsky's testimony!) "you will choke in blood" .. So Here, We have learned the lessons! Ukraine was preparing and We were preparing! It's simple.. Our economy has not collapsed, the army is fighting on a new technological basis, although there are mistakes * like with Moscow!).

    A classic archetypal example of a "guardian" with his training manual.
  9. YES UZH Online YES UZH
    YES UZH (YES) 10 May 2022 18: 24
    -2
    There is another category - balabols, some too prolific.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 May 2022 07: 28
      +1
      There are some. The comments are scribbled relentlessly.
  10. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) 10 May 2022 23: 37
    -3
    We need a law that legislates that the territory of Ukraine, seized by separatists with the help of NATO, is the property of Russia. All citizens of Ukraine will determine their future and choose where to live. Then, in accordance with the Law, the military operation carried out by Russia in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia. The presence of the Law will not allow the entry of troops of Poland, Romania, Hungary into the territory of Ukraine, and the annexation of the territory of Ukraine by these countries will automatically disappear.
    Here's how to act, in 2005, China passed the "Law on Anti-Secession of the State." According to the document, in the event of a threat to the peaceful reunification of the mainland and Taiwan, the PRC government is obliged to resort to force and other necessary methods to preserve its territorial integrity.
    The withdrawal of Ukraine without a nationwide referendum in the USSR and the failure to comply with the USSR Law of April 3, 1990 No. 1410-I “On the procedure for resolving issues related to the withdrawal of a union republic from the USSR” is a criminal offense that has no statute of limitations.
    The "elite" fear for the crimes committed in the 1990s. Hence the superficial, half-hearted solutions that bring troubles and problems to all peoples living on the territory of the former USSR.
  11. guest Offline guest
    guest 10 May 2022 23: 43
    -4
    Here I largely agree with the author, 8 years ago Russia would have won a military victory much easier, at least in a week Kyiv would have been taken, but economically it would have been a disaster, because all the sanctions now imposed by the West 8 years ago would be deadly.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 May 2022 07: 29
      +3
      Here I largely agree with the author, 8 years ago Russia would have won a military victory much easier, at least in a week then Kyiv would have been taken,

      8 years ago, Russia simply had no one to fight with. There was no army in Ukraine.

      but economically it would be a disaster, because all the sanctions imposed now by the West 8 years ago would be fatal.

      in 2014 there would not have been even a tenth of the sanctions currently imposed. Sanctions are imposed for weakness, not strength.
      1. guest Offline guest
        guest 27 November 2022 00: 50
        0
        Quote: Marzhetsky
        8 years ago, Russia simply had no one to fight with. There was no army in Ukraine.

        I just do not argue with this.
  12. Rustem Offline Rustem
    Rustem (Rustem) 11 May 2022 10: 49
    0
    Remember the huge rallies throughout the South-East, where the number of Russian flags literally dazzled in the eyes. All the Left Bank and Southern Ukraine were themselves ready to join the Russian Federation after the Crimea and Sevastopol. I wonder how such conclusions can be drawn without providing survey statistics. Maybe Putin had feedback on this in 2014!? Maybe the inhabitants of the left bank simply wanted independence from both Russia and Ukraine?! In addition, since 2014, the conditions for import substitution in agriculture and the achievement in 2020 of almost 100% food security for meat, flour and further in descending order for fish, vegetables grown in Russia have just developed in the Russian Federation. If the SVO operation had been postponed to 2014, then Western sanctions would have hit the sore spot of the Russian public at that time, which is associated with hunger and food. And thus, they would have their effectiveness due to social resonance. As for the liberation of Western Ukraine from the Anglo-Saxons, this can be morally done by the inhabitants of the liberated territories themselves. DPR and LPR for these purposes may not yet be part of the Russian Federation.
  13. Vladimir Daetoya (Vladimir Daetoya) 11 May 2022 19: 14
    +2
    The country's chief humanitarian sometimes strikes with stupid deeds.
  14. Sotnalex Offline Sotnalex
    Sotnalex 12 May 2022 08: 56
    0
    In 2014, our financial system was not ready to withstand such sanctions as it is now. For Crimea, the sanctions were not so tough, but the West is unlikely to be limited to them if we also took Novorossia
  15. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
    Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 14 May 2022 03: 26
    0
    Yes, what difference does it make in which version. Now you just need to finish it.
    resources are limited. Without mobilization, we won't be able to meet within a year.
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 14 May 2022 13: 46
      -1
      What kind of nonsense? No mobilization is needed and there are enough resources, you just need to apply them using your head and not another place.
      1. Vladimir Orlov Offline Vladimir Orlov
        Vladimir Orlov (Vladimir) 15 May 2022 18: 47
        0
        Is this an argument with yourself or what ..? The whole article is about how it was necessary to apply "not another place." And if through ... opu, then just mobilization (it already exists - in relation to volunteers)
    2. Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
      Ingvar7 (Ingvar Miller) 15 May 2022 10: 06
      0
      Technically, we are lagging behind in important segments, as always. No thermal cameras, not enough quadcopters, imperfect communications, etc.
  16. Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
    Ingvar7 (Ingvar Miller) 15 May 2022 10: 02
    +1
    Are there volunteers from the Kherson region in the ranks of the active Russian army?? The question is rhetorical; here is such a sincere "integration" ... Yes, and in Russia, the mood of oh-so-very many depends on the price of smartphones. You also need to disinfect...
  17. svetlanavradiy Offline svetlanavradiy
    svetlanavradiy (Svetlana Vradiy) 27 June 2022 19: 49
    0
    "Again twenty-five" about 2014. But you never know what the regions of Ukraine wanted then? We, Russia, would not have withstood the sanctions that we would have received if we were in Donetsk and Lugansk and beyond in 2014. For 8 years, we have created hypersonic weapons, other new types of weapons, prepared for isolation from the West. Now and only now can we adequately respond to NATO on the territory of Ukraine.