Ukraine may unite with Poland in "Rzeczpospolita 3.0"


Perhaps the main политическая the topic of recent weeks is a possible attempt by Poland to return back its Eastern Creshes, a significant part of which falls on the territory of Western Ukraine. A lot will depend on whether this actually happens or remains at the level of "trolling" Warsaw, for the further development of the Russian special operation. How should Moscow react to the arrival of Polish peacekeepers in Galicia and Volhynia?

To begin with, I would like to make a small digression and give the hypothesis of the Ukrainian-Russian video blogger Mikhail Onufrienko, who has become very popular lately thanks to the daily information coverage of the course of the NWO and the events associated with it. According to him, the powerful grouping of the Russian Armed Forces, which was recently hastily withdrawn from the north of Ukraine and transferred to the Donbass, still does not participate in the battles. The unhurried offensive that is now taking place is carried out by the same forces that were at the disposal initially. This is clearly not yet a “Great Battle”, and Onufrienko suggested that Moscow is simply waiting for Warsaw to decide to send troops into Western Ukraine, and then the long-awaited large-scale offensive will begin.

Well, the hypothesis is quite working, and only life will confirm its falsity or fidelity. Now let's move on to the Eastern Creses.

"Crimean scenario"?

The day before, the President of the Republic of Poland, Andrzej Duda, made an extremely significant statement:

For decades, and God forbid, for centuries. Ukraine is a brotherly state for Poland, and, as, I hope, Vladimir Zelensky prophetically said, there will be no more borders between our countries, Poland and Ukraine. This border will no longer exist! So that we live together on this earth, building and rebuilding together our common happiness and common strength, which will allow us to repel any danger and any possible threat.

Many people both in Poland itself and in Ukraine took this as a hint at the possible annexation by Warsaw of the territories of Galicia and Volhynia, which not so long ago were Polish by historical standards. Some historical references are given by numerous billboards, which are now hung all over the republic, with a quote not from some retired, but from the current Polish general Yaroslav Mik:

Time to remember history.

The fact that plans are being worked out in Warsaw for the possible entry of troops into the territory of Western Ukraine, said the head of the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation Sergey Naryshkin:

The first stage of "reunification" should be the entry of Polish troops into the western regions of the country under the slogan of their "protection against Russian aggression."

In general, this is no longer the idle chatter of jingoistic bloggers, journalists and political scientists. It should be noted that President Duda was the first to raise the issue of bringing some NATO peacekeeping forces into Ukraine, but the bloc's allies did not support the idea. But Poland itself mobilized its army and pulled it to the western border of Ukraine under the pretext of military exercises.

At first glance, everything is ready for the Eastern Cresses to return to their "native harbor", but this is only for the first time. Still, there are no direct analogies with the Crimean scenario, and here's why.

At first, in Crimea, the population was objectively pro-Russian and indeed massively voted for reunification with the Russian Federation, no matter what our enemies and domestic liberals who joined them say. There is no such thing in Galicia and Volyn. Many locals are justifiably terrified of the problem of restitution, when the former owners of real estate and other assets will come and ask the current ones to leave. About 100 applicants have already gathered in Poland to review the results of the “banderization” of the Eastern Kresy. More importantly, the arrival of the Poles terrifies the local Western Ukrainian elites, who understand that they will be pushed back very quickly. Of course, there are also pro-Polish forces, but the Westerners will not come out en masse with a red and white flag to meet Polish peacekeepers.

Secondly, at the moment there are no formal reasons for the entry of the Polish Army into Western Ukraine. The Russian army is bogged down in positional battles on the Eastern Front and Galicia does not threaten in any way. If Warsaw decides to bring in peacekeepers now, then in Ukraine it will be quite reasonably perceived as intervention and occupation. At the same time, it should be borne in mind that on the Right Bank there is a rather powerful grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard, pumped up with NATO weapons, which, instead of bread and salt, may well meet the Polish military with fire if Kyiv itself does not approve their entry. Warsaw will definitely not go to war with Ukraine.

It turns out to be a kind of funny situation. If you believe Mikhail Onufrienko's guess, then Moscow is waiting for Poland to be the first to send troops to Western Ukraine. In Warsaw, they are clearly waiting for the RF Armed Forces to smash the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard to smithereens, multiplying them by zero, approach the border of Galicia and Volhynia, and then only Polish peacekeepers will have every reason to enter the Eastern Kresy to protect them. In general, if our strategists have such a plan for Ukraine, then it should be reconsidered.

It will be even worse if you have to quickly fuss, reacting to the implementation of other people's strategic plans.


If you carefully read the statement of President Duda, then between the lines you can see a different scenario for the accession of the Eastern Crosses than the simple entry of Polish peacekeepers. For understanding, it is enough to recall the history of Poland, linking it with the current situation in Ukraine.

Thus, the first Rzeczpospolita arose as a forced union between the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. The Union of Lublin united two independent states into one (conf)federative state because of the “Muscovite threat”, when the Russian Tsar Ivan IV scared the Polish and Lithuanian gentry to death with a successful military campaign against Polotsk. Then it became clear to everyone that against “crazy Putin, sorry, Ivan the Terrible” alone, the Kingdom of Poland or the Grand Duchy of Lithuania cannot stand alone, it is necessary to step over pride and unite. The new state that appeared as a result of the Union of Lublin itself became a source of a permanent deadly threat to the eastern neighbor.

Today, too, there are all the prerequisites for a new union, now between Kyiv and Warsaw. Ukraine is not accepted into the NATO bloc, most likely, despite the talk, they will not be accepted into the European Union either. The Square is actively demanding security guarantees from "aggressive" Russia. At the same time, in Poland, many consider as their historical lands not only Eastern Cressy, but in general the entire territory of Ukraine to the Dnieper and beyond. Warsaw is actively promoting the Trimorye (Intermarium) integration project, in which, with the support of the United States, it intends to play the first violin.

As part of President Duda's proposal to remove the borders between Poland and Ukraine, the two countries may well be united into a confederal union (union), where Polish (NATO) troops can be stationed on the territory of Nezalezhnaya. The question is how Russia should react to this.

Accession to Poland of Galicia and Volhynia is assessed in different ways. Some regret the "Kemskaya volost", others even consider it a boon, realizing that Western Ukraine is a long-cut piece and a lot of water has flowed since the Middle Ages. But in any case, relying on the entry of Polish peacekeepers, building your own strategy from this, would be the height of naivety. But the scenario with the Polish-Ukrainian union would be an extremely unfavorable outcome for Russia.

Still, you need to somehow accelerate and work as the “first number”.
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  1. -3
    6 May 2022 14: 41
    This is nonsense.
    1. 0
      7 May 2022 21: 03
      what's wrong with the idea of ​​Poland Russia??? All the same, we will not swallow the whole of Ukraine, and why?? Western Ukraine is just a hostile all times..Forget about it at all.! Let the Poles sort it out as they want .. Or kiss passionately or fight, the main thing is that they are not with us ..
      1. -2
        8 May 2022 11: 49
        Quote: Yuri88
        what's wrong with the idea of ​​Poland Russia??? All the same, we will not swallow the whole of Ukraine, and why??

        Because it's bullshit. Poland is the second country, after the United States, in terms of the number of weapons supplied to Ukraine. This somewhat contradicts the author's fantasies about the Poles' claims to the western regions. And the fantasies about Rzeczpospolita 3.0 are based on a free interpretation of Andrzej Duda's words about open borders.
  2. +5
    6 May 2022 14: 44
    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    This is nonsense.

    It's not nonsense.
    1. +2
      6 May 2022 15: 53
      Sergei, this is unbelievable. Today, Warsaw would like to send troops to Galicia, under the pretext of protection from the Russian Federation, but Kyiv is against it, and here, for now, so ... Kyiv understands that if the Poles enter, they will enter forever, and the Bandera people value independence ... If Warsaw introduces troops, then without the consent of Kyiv, it will start again ... already with the Poles ... What is real is the Anschluss of Moldova by Romania, the President of Moldova is a citizen of Romania and sleeps and sees to drag it through ...
      1. +1
        6 May 2022 16: 45
        Quote: Sapsan136
        Sergei, this is unbelievable. Today, Warsaw would like to send troops to Galicia, under the pretext of protection from the Russian Federation, but Kyiv is against it, and here, for now, so ... Kyiv understands that if the Poles enter, they will enter forever, and the Bandera people value independence ... If Warsaw introduces troops, then without the consent of Kyiv, it will start again ... already with the Poles ... What is real is the Anschluss of Moldova by Romania, the President of Moldova is a citizen of Romania and sleeps and sees to drag it through ...

        Yes, it's unlikely, but not impossible. This will depend on the situation on the fronts.
        1. +1
          6 May 2022 17: 18
          Polish occupation under the pretext of protection from the Russian Federation is possible, but this is a clash of Poles with local Bandera, for whom independence is everything ... I read an article where the author suggests that Zelensky is draining the South-East and even the center, but they will try to keep the west , as independent, by hook or by crook ...
    2. +2
      6 May 2022 18: 35
      Nonsense, non-nonsense - it is impossible to exclude the accession of Ukraine to Poland, as a variant of its longed-for entry into the EU and NATO. But if the Poles are not wanted even in Western Ukraine, then what can we say about Central and Southern?
    3. -2
      8 May 2022 11: 50
      Yes, how not nonsense, if nonsense.
      1. 0
        8 May 2022 13: 36
        Oleg Rambover, May 6, 7, 8... are you all right? laughing
  3. +3
    6 May 2022 14: 54
    For Bandera, a completely acceptable option for salvation, and for psheks, the realization of a cherished dream at the expense of khokhokholopov.
    What psheks, and they are not going to hide anything:

    Polish political scientist Konrad Renkas: citizens of the Republic of Poland are already fighting in Ukraine, and these are not demonstrative volunteers, but mercenaries and military men sent there on orders.
    1.00 President of Poland Andrzej Duda: there will be no more borders between our countries - Poland and Ukraine.

    of course, only Ukraine will no longer exist.
    the Yankees showed up here:

    Former head of US Special Operations Command Europe Mike Repass:
    “It is necessary that the United States, France, Poland, Britain and Germany create a Ukrainian military unit, equivalent to a brigade. These countries have enough military potential, so they will be able to form Ukrainian military forces, equip them and train them on their territory.”

    this is no longer the format of the NWO, but a full-fledged, albeit undeclared, war to destroy Russia. It's time for someone to admit it.
    Meanwhile, Valya - "nails where" - Matvienko:

    Speaker of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko:
    “The Armed Forces of Russia are in no way inferior to the best armies in the world and even surpass them. We are talking about the professional training of military personnel, and the quality of weapons and military equipment, the ability to use them, and physical training and fortitude. No one is able to take us by surprise. No one can expect that his aggressive intentions towards our country will remain without consequences.

    About the army, especially about the spirit and hardening, no one doubts. But about "catch by surprise" and "consequences" - somehow it does not sound convincing, from the lips of someone involved in the twenty-year "import substitution" thanks to which (as well as the collapse of the industry inherited from the USSR) similar discoveries are made about nails and others like them , friendship with sworn "partners and colleagues", and other joys of bureaucratic-oligarchic capitalism. Rafik is innocent again.
    Where is an example of the consequences for "decision-making centers", at least Ukrainian?! about Western even the question is not worth it.
    Where is the shutdown of the pipe and the termination of the supply of raw materials to the EU and the states?

    9.50 The transit of Russian gas through Ukraine is kept at a level close to the maximum - 100 million cubic meters per day.

    that is, gas to geyropu and money to Ukraine for transit.
    Some are pumping weapons into Ukraine and training soldiers, others suffer from political impotence and want to intimidate the enemy with slogans and promises.
    Well, for now, the Russian army has to show both strength of mind and hardening in battles not for life, but for death with the Nazis. Partly, and due to the fact that after 30 years of "friendship" with "our respected" "partners and colleagues", someone was taken by surprise.
    But, it would seem, where are the partners and where are the nails?
    1. 0
      8 May 2022 22: 25
      IvanRom, if you are a little out of touch in both politics and economics, then I will give a number that may change your claims. Russia receives almost $1 billion a day from the West for its energy resources.
  4. 0
    6 May 2022 15: 09
    "Hyena of Europe" clearly knows what he wants and consistently achieves it. Luckily no one bothers her. And this happens also because someone has been shuffling curtsy for so many years and repenting for Katyn, etc.
    For your information:

    For the first time, the responsibility of the USSR for Katyn was recognized in 1990. Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev.

    then the State Duma noted:

    26 Nov 2010, 12:44
    The State Duma recognized the guilt of the USSR and I. Stalin in the Katyn execution of the Poles
    The State Duma of the Russian Federation adopted as a basis the statement "On the Katyn tragedy and its victims", recognizing the guilt of the USSR in the execution of Polish officers. "In official Soviet propaganda, responsibility for this atrocity, which received the collective name of the Katyn tragedy, was attributed to Nazi criminals. The Katyn crime was committed on the direct orders of Stalin and other Soviet leaders," the Russian deputies said in a statement.


    Apr 07, 2010 21:10 p.m.
    Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin believes that the mass execution of Polish officers near Katyn could be the revenge of Joseph Stalin for the death of Soviet prisoners of war in Polish captivity. “I suppose I. Stalin felt his personal responsibility and carried out this execution out of a sense of revenge. But we don’t know this for sure, and this is not in the documents,” “It was our initiative, precisely in order to reveal all the nuances of this tragedy. As part of this work, 4 million different documents were opened, and millions of sheets of these documents were handed over to the Polish side. This is an unprecedented case in relations between states," the Russian prime minister said.

    even better .. "we don’t know for sure, it’s not in the documents," but Stalin and the USSR are to blame. and again, the documents themselves handed over to the Poles ... like the notorious non-commissioned officer's widow ....
    as it was said:

    The “official confession of the USSR's guilt,” concocted and announced during Gorbachev's time, is a link in an endless chain of betrayals of the country and deliberate acts aimed at its destruction.

    and it is the same, continued by the Russian authorities...unfortunately.

    Before the celebration of the Victory Day of the Soviet people over Nazi Germany, quite understandable statements are heard:

    Dmitry Rogozin: Were they not hasty, having forgiven the German people for the attack on our country in 1941, by forgiving the Germans for the massive crimes they committed during the Great Patriotic War? Can we remind ourselves and them what they did on our land? And how did it happen that modern Germany is again behaving aggressively towards Russia?

    10.50 Sergey Lavrov: Of course, we must always remember the lessons of history. Moreover, now in the West they are trying to tear out these glorious pages of our history, to cross out everything that has been done, they are trying not easy to equate the victors of Nazism with criminals, but to make us the main culprits of that war, and in every possible way whitewash Nazism, encourage Nazi manifestations in modern Europe.

    Isn't it all because, after the collapse of the USSR, the Russian leadership behaved in a way that gave rise to all of the above, rewriting history, fawning over the West and blaming the damned "scoop! for everything that is possible and impossible ?!
    Words must be backed up by deeds.
    And then I would like an answer to the question: Why have monuments to Nazi criminals, accomplices of the Nazis, continued to stand in Russia for so many years, why streets and organizations bear their names, why museum expositions are dedicated to them, why they are stuffed with children from kindergartens to cadet corps ?! Why is all this encouraged at the highest level - just remember the Mannerheim board, which was opened in Leningrad, which he once besieged, no more, no less, like the Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation and the Representative of the Security Council of the Russian Federation ?! Or do they not know history? or don't remember? or don't want to?
    Even now, when Russia is fighting against united Europe and Nazi Ukraine, as the USSR once fought, all these monuments and so on. collaborators and accomplices of the Nazis, continue to remain inviolable. Which cannot but cause questions, bewilderment, indignation and anger in normal people. Taking into account the seemingly adopted laws on counteracting the rewriting of history and on the punishment for the rehabilitation of Nazism and opposing the USSR and Nazi Germany, this generally looks monstrous! This is not what Soviet people fought and died for!
    1. 0
      6 May 2022 15: 40
      ps In 2008, the ataman of the All-Great Don Army, Viktor Vodolatsky, signed an order to begin the “political rehabilitation” of Petr Krasnov. However, this idea caused such a resonance that the Cossacks quickly "turned on the back." Viktor Vodolatsky - Member of the United Russia faction, First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs, Eurasian Integration and Relations with Compatriots, member of the Council under the President of the Russian Federation on Interethnic Relations, member of the Council under the President of the Russian Federation on Cossack Affairs, Cossack general. He is now, Apparently, he prefers not to remember that scandalous story. But we shouldn't forget about it.
      only some of the "monuments" to Krasnov and others like him in the Russian Federation:

      Memorial plate dedicated to von Pannwitz, A. G. Shkuro, P. N. Krasnov, Sultan-Kelech-Girey, T. N. Domanov and others - “To the soldiers of the Russian military union, the Russian corps, the Cossack camp, the Cossacks of the 15th SS cavalry corps who fell for the faith and the fatherland "- the temple" All Saints ", Moscow, Leningradsky prospect, d. 73a. On May 8, 2007, the monument was destroyed by anti-fascists, but later restored.
      On August 4, 2007, in the village of Yelanskaya (Rostov Region), the opening and consecration of the Memorial Complex "Don Cossacks in the fight against the Bolsheviks" and the monument to P.N. Krasnov took place. The memorial complex includes a museum and an archive.
      In 1994, with the blessing of Patriarch Alexy II, a monument was erected near the Church of All Saints to "Generals of the Russian Imperial Army and the White Movement", among which Shkuro and Krasnov are named.

      In accordance with the conclusions of the Chief Military Prosecutor's Office on the refusal to rehabilitate them, the rulings of the Military Collegium of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation of December 25, 1997, German citizens Krasnov P.N., Shkuro A.G., Sultan Klych-Girey, Krasnov S.N. and a citizen of the USSR Domanov T.N. were recognized as justifiably convicted and not subject to rehabilitation, of which all initiators of appeals on the issue of rehabilitation of these persons were notified.
      1. 0
        8 May 2022 23: 56
        IvanRom you are wrong!
    2. 0
      8 May 2022 23: 09
      Ivan you skipped the history of your country at school? Listen to what nonsense you are talking about!
      And in general, what does Mazheretsky write about? Have you even read the article, or do you care if only about your innermost? Can you go to church?
  5. +3
    6 May 2022 15: 31
    How does Poland accumulate 30-40 million Ukrainians? Should everyone be given equal rights? Election rights? Will Ukrainians be able to live where they want? Move to Poland?

    Such a union is doomed to aggravation between the two halves. Poland is not rich enough to act like the FRG in relation to the GDR (there was one people, one language, and then what).

    The two halves don't stick together. They can't even be nailed to each other. If Poland does not get the territory under its control, but there will only be something like a union of two states, will Poland allocate huge money for Ukraine, the rise of the economy, reforms, etc., when the risk of a rollback of the unification will always hang in the air?

    And in general, what will it be? Absorption of Ukraine by Poland? What will the country be called? Ukrainian Nazis will be delighted with the name of their country.

    Poland can only swallow a small piece of the western regions, Lviv and its environs, where it will dictate its conditions to the population in order to de-Ukrainize the territory.
  6. -3
    6 May 2022 16: 24
    As for me, the Russian authorities are simply recycling the Russian population of Ukraine. This is a joint operation with the Anglo-Saxons, who have been quietly utilizing the Russians for a century and a half. For reference. At the end of the 19th century, the Russian-speaking population was about 1,5 times less than the English-speaking population. Now 6 times less. That is why they launched the process of abolishing everything Russian. And the Russian government, under the guise of patriotism, utilizes the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine. And the Anglo-Saxons applaud this. Still would. Of the 300 million Russian-speaking, Russia, together with NATO, disposes of under 30 million. Some are buried in the ground, and some are forcibly assimilated in Europe. Bravo.
  7. +2
    6 May 2022 16: 25
    Only one variant of the alliance between Poland and Ukraine is possible, Ukrainians under psheks. It's always been that way. Unfortunately, the Bandera people are well aware of this and will not agree to any "union"
    1. 0
      11 May 2022 20: 10
      They went to an alliance with the Germans, they will also go to an alliance with the Poles. The point here is not about the poor part of the population, who do not decide anything, but about who pushes them around. As soon as they agree that the rich will remain rich, there will be a connection.
  8. 0
    6 May 2022 16: 44
    Quote: Colonel Kudasov
    Only one variant of the alliance between Poland and Ukraine is possible, Ukrainians under psheks. It's always been that way. Unfortunately, the Bandera people are well aware of this and will not agree to any "union"

    Exactly. Only for salvation.
  9. 0
    6 May 2022 16: 53
    After the war, when the maps were redrawn, 180 crests from the western regions of Ukraine were resettled in Poland... and the descendants of these settlers still remember this with hatred. I talked to them, one woman told how her husband was summoned to the Polish police every day and simply beaten because he was a crest, and not a Pole, although he was forcibly moved there from the western regions .... This memory is still alive and it is unlikely that Western crests will be happy with the Polish yoke over them .... But let's wait and see.
  10. +3
    6 May 2022 17: 59
    A few remarks about .... The Russian army is NOT "bogged down". The grouping of the Russian army (and not the entire army) has certain tasks that it performs. The fact that "Ukraine can unite" is not an unification, it is an attempt by comedians to sell their country cheaply to the Poles.
  11. +1
    6 May 2022 20: 50
    I am in favor of giving them Volhynia and Galicia, let them deal with the Ukrainians, Hungarians, etc. But it would be better to hand it over to the Hungarians, let them fight among themselves. Why do we have problems. Let's bring the infection to Russia. My uncle was from Western Ukraine, Biden is a baby doll compared to him.
    1. 0
      6 May 2022 21: 55
      ..and many are for you to leave for Volyn, or Galicia .., they figured out why we need to deal with this, bring the infection to Russia? And when you sort it out there, Sergey Yuryevich, since, compared to your family, the Biden family is baby dolls .., then we won’t be afraid for the Crimean Bridge ...!
  12. 0
    6 May 2022 21: 47 would be humiliating for Russia and Belarus. No one will allow Poland to do this in principle, well, no way, under no circumstances will there be Poles, from the word "absolutely" ... An insignificant people is not even worthy of their land ...
  13. +1
    7 May 2022 06: 31
    New education? Nambre 3. And who is the third one? Rzhach after a liter? request What is the fate of these peoples. What they don’t do, things don’t go ..
  14. 0
    7 May 2022 08: 30
    First you need to figure out what it is - "The Commonwealth" !!! .., and this is nothing less than a union of two states - the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (Belarus) and the Communist Party (Poland), and Ukraine (Rus), as well as Zhmud ( now "lithuania") there is just a subject - literally - a subject !!!... lol

  15. 0
    7 May 2022 08: 41
    Quote: Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich
    My uncle was from Western Ukraine, Biden is a baby doll compared to him.

    bully What - he is even older and weaker!???... lol
  16. 1_2
    7 May 2022 23: 47
    the Poles have already teamed up with the Germans, now they are cleaning the toilets for the Germans, the country is bankrupt with a debt of 370 billion, in 1988 the Poland's debt was only 20 billion, this is how Poland "thrives" in the EU, let the Polish beggars and the homeless not rock the boat on the Russian lands of Little Russia, which temporarily allowed to occupy in the 1920s, otherwise Poland will disappear from the map 5 times!
  17. 0
    8 May 2022 09: 39
    dreamer author) smacks of jeans)