Poseidon will help Russia eradicate corruption

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In Russia, a state information system in the field of combating corruption called "Poseidon" will be created. The corresponding decree was signed at the beginning of this week.


It is notable for the fact that it will allow us to effectively fight corruption in our country, completely eliminating the human factor. The principle of its work is to analyze a huge array of data, including income declarations of officials, internal documentation, contracts, and even social media accounts.

Revealing a discrepancy for a particular person, for example, life, as they say, beyond one's means or close communication between an official and businessmen who depend on his decision, he (the person) will be included in a separate list and transferred to the development of specialized specialists.

In general, Poseidon looks interesting and can be extremely useful. But in the course of implementation, specialists will need to solve two serious problems: to find capacities capable of quickly processing such arrays of information, and specialists who can service the system.

However, all this is quite feasible, given that we already have the Govorun supercomputer of the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research, which is capable of solving much more serious problems. It is also possible to build such a machine in the current conditions of severe sanctions. Malaysia, the largest microchip manufacturer, has not yet joined the West.

There will be no problems with specialists in Russia either. The day before, the Council for the Development of Digital economics at the Federation Council made a proposal to return the distribution system of students after their graduation from educational institutions. First of all, this will affect programmers.

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  1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 May 2022 11: 52
    -1
    This state information system will turn into a state system of corruption. Still at the cutting stage
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 May 2022 11: 58
      -1
      Is there no information about corruption now? Take it easy!
      There is no desire to use it for its intended purpose, and to climb on the rampage ourselves.
      Will the system make people act, or will people make the system silent, make it useless even at the stage of development and implementation?
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 May 2022 12: 29
      +1
      Russian society is sick with habit, tolerance for deception by its employers, officials and the state. "Poseidon" will not change anything here. The authorities are afraid to admit real intolerance to all this, because. then she will be strong
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 8 May 2022 15: 43
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        Alexey Davydov, I have not heard that someone could defeat corruption.
        It is impossible to drive real life into the framework of formalisms. The laws governing the life of the state are such formal rules. Science says that the complexity of formalism increases very quickly and becomes commensurate with reality itself, if you try to accurately describe it. And such rules do not make sense to fence.
        In other words, you touched on a difficult topic. Yes
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 May 2022 18: 33
          +1
          isofat
          Science says that the complexity of formalism increases very quickly and becomes commensurate with reality itself, if you try to accurately describe it. And such rules do not make sense to fence.

          So it turns out within the framework of abstract logic, which seeks to justify NOTHING DOING.
          Within the framework of dialectics, it is necessary to consider a pair of opposites fighting each other:
          - honesty (constructive morality), striving to retain its spheres and
          take everything else away from corruption
          - corruption (destructive morality), seeking to spread itself to other areas
          This pair in its struggle forms a dialectical unity that ensures the balance of the maximum possible degree of freedom of the subjects of society and the necessary measures to control their behavior, in terms of ensuring an acceptable level of corruption.
          This fighting couple creates a feedback that allows society to manage its balance and avoid “ossification”, “dogmatization” of control algorithms, gives them a permanent job (life).
          Thus, fighting corruption is not useless, but necessary.
          It is useless to set the goal of its complete eradication.
          It is necessary to set the goal of keeping it in a “repressed” state AT THE PERMISSIBLE LEVEL established by society.
          The question is not difficult at all.
          It is difficult for a corrupt state to take this step, not being forced by the population, already accustomed to everything.

          Those who want to do it are looking for ways, and those who do not want to do it are looking for excuses.

          Saying of the times of Peter the Great
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 8 May 2022 19: 03
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            Alexey Davydov, fight, I'm all for. Honesty, this category is not known to AI at all, as well as conscience. The judiciary, if it correctly uses the laws, applying honesty and conscience, can solve many problems. AI cannot, and judges often say there is no such law, and do not take responsibility.
            I am sure that there is both honesty and conscience, but we must learn how to use them correctly. The car can't. smile
            1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 May 2022 22: 02
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              Our corrupt state here has the task of Baron Munchausen - to pull himself out of the swamp of corruption by the hair. Of course this is not possible. Like the Baron, this requires an external, non-corrupt force.
              Such a healthy force, not involved in power, is the people themselves.
              For 20 years, Putin was obliged to solve the problem of improving the government, involving the people in it. The problem remains unresolved, and pulls us to the bottom.
              Putin needs to address the people.
              Explain frankly, make contact, ask for help
              1. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 8 May 2022 23: 11
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                Alexey Davydov, there is no reason to worry. Do you have constructive proposals for fighting corruption, maybe you have studied the experience of other countries?
                1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                  Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 May 2022 23: 53
                  -1
                  there is no reason to worry.

                  Explain

                  Do you have constructive proposals to fight corruption?

                  We cannot solve this problem as long as the broad masses of the people are out of power, do not participate in the government of the country, as long as they do not trust the authorities, and the authorities do not trust them.
                  This gap needs to be bridged. Putin had 20 years to do this - he did nothing! Now you need to do it in one motion. Appeal to the people, create bodies of people's control, transfer to them some of the functions in this system and control over its use.
                  The main thing is the dialogue between the authorities and the people and the establishment of trust - which has never happened, maybe never.

                  maybe you have studied the experience of other countries

                  Russia has its own path and its own diseases
                  1. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 9 May 2022 00: 35
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                    Alexey Davydov, I understand you, you can not offer anything. In order to cure a tooth, it is not at all necessary to amputate the entire head. Sorry, no more interesting.
                2. Dingo Offline Dingo
                  Dingo (Victor) 10 May 2022 04: 37
                  +1
                  Great experience in China. Caught on bribes (let's call a spade a spade) and theft of officials, regardless of rank and position, they are simply put against the wall ... Sometimes in public, under television cameras ... Imagine what kind of rotation we would have in the government, in the Duma , in the Federation Council?!!!
                  1. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 10 May 2022 11: 44
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                    Dingo, my imagination also caresses such a picture, but ...

                    We need to find and quickly grow talented managers. We all got into capitalism not so long ago, but time is running out, we need to develop. Today, I see no reason to worry.

                    Navalny organized his anti-corruption fund to legalize subversive activities, his fight against corruption is a front.
          2. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
            goncharov.62 (Andrei) 8 May 2022 22: 14
            +1
            Depth of feedback... I understand! Alas, the GULAG and others go at the short circuit level in the scheme? The question is extremely interesting and, in principle, prinorm. tolerances - we decide! It's a matter of small. "Power-is! Will-is! Will-power is not..."
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    3. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 May 2022 15: 39
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      Imagine this picture:
      Suddenly, this part of the "Potemkin village" for the people really started working! A lot of money and labor was invested, countless main programmers were replaced, and finally the result! While for a narrow circle of people. But this time it's real.
      Red lights are lit under the names of all, without exception, functionaries of power, including the main person.
      What to do? (The main issue in Russia).
      It turns out - they made a mirror.
      You need to change your face
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 May 2022 18: 03
        -1
        ...or make a crooked mirror
    4. SASS Offline SASS
      SASS (sass) 10 May 2022 15: 08
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      You are lovely, Lyokha ..)
  2. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
    goncharov.62 (Andrei) 8 May 2022 22: 09
    +1
    Economic and social (ideological) barriers to corruption must be created. Everything else is Filkin's diploma. Terror does not take it, learn from Comrade. Stalin and his prime minister.
  3. Bloshka Offline Bloshka
    Bloshka (Konstantin) 9 May 2022 05: 48
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    As far as I understand, the President signed a decree on the launch of this system. Its run-in and launch took place in Rosatom and received good results. According to experts, powerful resources are not needed for the operation of a neurobot and AI. And as part of the fight against corruption, the digital ruble will also participate. Any transfers to state-owned companies will be accompanied by markers, any movements of the ruble are tracked, as a result, you can see what money went where. Poseidon will be supervised by the FSO, the ruble of the Central Bank.
  4. DPN Offline DPN
    DPN (DPN) 9 May 2022 08: 02
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    Another unnecessary system. There is no confiscation of everything (honestly acquired property up to the third generation) and no Poseidon will help here. The military seems to also have some kind of POSEIDON, did someone use it? when the country of the USSR was very bad. Extra waste of taxes.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 9 May 2022 09: 17
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      DPN, didn't you understand that we were visited by the "anti-corruption center", Alexei Navalny?
  5. isofat Offline isofat
    isofat (isofat) 9 May 2022 09: 23
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    The old anti-corruption system, represented by Alexei Navalny and Alexey Davydov, now you can bury. laughing Yes
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 9 May 2022 23: 05
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      If this is a thought, try to explain it. In one sentence, the bells and whistles of the funeral, the old system, one person in which this system and two completely different people. What does Navalny have to do with it all of a sudden? And two smileys?
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 10 May 2022 01: 10
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        Alexey Davydov, emoticons convey emotions, and the idea is simple:

        In Russia, a state information system in the field of combating corruption called "Poseidon" will be created.

        laughing
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 May 2022 11: 59
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          I meant your idea
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 10 May 2022 15: 13
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            In Russia, a state information system in the field of combating corruption called "Poseidon" will be created.

            Alexey Davydov, and hence it follows that outdated methods of fighting corruption can be thrown into the trash.

            PS About the garbage, I put it figuratively, and not in order to offend the stupid, the smart will not be offended, the fighters against corruption. laughing Yes
  6. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 9 May 2022 11: 35
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    Firstly, "Poseidon" is a publicized system of future mega-weapons.
    If now this is a GIS, then perhaps a polar fox has come to an underwater super-vigorous torpedo.
    As well as the promoted "Petrel," which has not been remembered for 2 years already.

    Secondly, Putin has been fighting corruption for 22 years. Remember, 2001, "swallow the dust"???
    So far, from the visible successes - the minister released ahead of schedule, who ran into Miller himself, the case about the billions of Colonel Zakharchenko that went nowhere from the media, the silent case about the Arshukov clan (who have inherited pretty much both in Russia and abroad), and that the rich life of the former officials and ministers simply ceased to be mentioned in the media and TV.

    The fur coat storages themselves, dachas, hotels and fondiki over the hill have not gone away. Even in Z, a few yachts, a few hacienda, a few accounts of the most slow and odious were arrested.
    The media did not write about any affected fur coat storage
  7. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 9 May 2022 14: 18
    +1
    The system will be able to separate its own people, who can do everything, from all the others, who cannot. Fighting corruption in a system based on it is like fighting windmills. And the Kremlin will not allow the system to be touched.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 May 2022 12: 12
      -1
      This is true. That is what it is created for.
      To stop corruption from being out of control. This will probably result in the legalization and legitimization of state corruption. The way a character named isofat sees it in his dreams.
      I assume that his interests are closely related to these issues.
      Judging by what is happening around, I doubt that the state will be able to manage its corruption without the participation of the people in the interests of the country and the people
  8. SASS Offline SASS
    SASS (sass) 10 May 2022 15: 06
    +1
    Quote: Alexey Davydov
    This state information system will turn into a state system of corruption. Still at the cutting stage

    Scary? Or so, splash shit ...))
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 May 2022 17: 48
      -1
      Scary. For the country, for myself, for my family. For our future. When the enemy is at the gate and around us. Are a few lines of comment - "shit"? Govnitso - in reality, around us, together with you. To scoop it out, and scoop it out of our reality with all the people.
      The problem is that it gives confidence to our enemy, and robs us of strength. The real problem is that you will have to deal with scooping already at war
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 May 2022 20: 06
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      Shit is when any official, getting any question in his hands, thinks not about the success of the case, but about the rollback that he will receive.
      Shit is when the choice of a decision in any case depends on comparing the prospects for receiving various kickbacks.
      Shit is when, at the very top of this "pyramid" of kickbacks, the country's leaders legally report tens of millions of annual income.
      Do we want to achieve something useful in these conditions?
      And we need to achieve - the enemy will not wait
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 10 May 2022 21: 18
        -1
        Alexey Davydov, calm down Yes
  9. Spatel Offline Spatel
    Spatel 11 May 2022 07: 28
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    Open your eyes, scribblers! And call a spade a spade. Or scary? Yes, yes, it was he, the sun-faced and sinless, honest and incorruptible, who always fought corruption, day and night! And they, bastards, stole! This Kabaeva - well, where could she steal so much? No one knows ... And the sun-faced one himself makes round eyes. "What are you? Really? But we will still fight!" Everything as usual.
    He will entrust this super-Poseidon to the Rotenberg brothers - and there will be no more corruption in Russia ...
    Or will there be nothing at all then?
  10. Andrey Berkut Offline Andrey Berkut
    Andrey Berkut (Andrei) 18 May 2022 13: 40
    0
    there is a problem, and it is that without exception, all regulatory bodies and departments work on the FAS command, everyone is in the know, everyone knows everything about everyone, what is the point of fencing a garden, these are people who find themselves working in a comfortable environment for state or municipal service, what for them to attack - to run, what to retreat - to run, everything is in the hands of those in power mediocrity and embezzlers, mass entertainers