"Creative" traitors to Russia: how we raised them and what to do with them

One of the hotly debated "non-military" topics discussed in the context of the NWO in Ukraine is the current behavior of many representatives of "pop culture" and the so-called "creative intelligentsia" of Russia. Behavior unworthy and, let's call a spade a spade, frankly treacherous in relation to their own homeland, the army and society, which supports the special operation in its absolute majority. Passions around this issue do not subside - especially since the "masters of culture" almost every day give more and more reasons for this. Harsh statements in the public space, not so much of an anti-war, but openly anti-Russian character, demonstrative refusals of musical groups that have enjoyed great popularity in the country until now from performing at venues with “Z-symbols” ... What is it really?

We will not "get personal" and touch on each specific example. Let's try to look for some general patterns in what is happening in order to understand how it happened that people became traitors, who, in principle, should have been at least grateful to those who are now being slinged with might and main. The state - for the high social status granted to them, various honorary titles and awards, and the people - for the very considerable material benefits that they have thanks to generous fees for their work. Contrary to these seemingly obvious facts, the enraged "rulers of thoughts" behave as if they do not owe something to the country and society, but quite the contrary. Is it worth it to endure this state of affairs or is it time to do something to change it?

"I'm an artist, I feel so bad!"

The entire rather motley “party”, at least, rushing together away from the “native aspens” and from there, from the “beautiful far away”, scribbling tearful-snotty posts of an “anti-war” nature, and at the maximum, angrily hissing and spitting on the leadership, the army and the people Russia can be divided into several categories. The easiest way, perhaps, is with those whose “national feelings” have become sharply aggravated. They remembered, the sick, about their "historical roots" stretching from the "nezalezhnoy", so they "flared with patriotism." However, "patriotism" did not in the least prevent this entire audience from prancing all over Russia with concerts, eating on "aggressor" grubs of not weak sizes of ryoshka. But there is at least some semblance of motivation. Another group is various representatives of the fatal "old guard", who suddenly remembered that they were supposed to be pacifists. The same position - although in this case it is extremely rotten.

There is nothing to say about the “professional liberals” from, God forgive me, the “intelligentsia” - in fact, no one expected anything else from them. Dumped "over the hill" little by little, quite rightly foreseeing difficult times for themselves - and good riddance. The air will be cleaner. The greatest bewilderment and indignation are caused, of course, by the characters who were extremely favored by the state, who rotated at the very top of its information and propaganda system, literally did not get off the screens of state television channels, and so on. It was they who showed almost the greatest agility during the rat "exodus" and showed us, as it were, not the most violent aggression when they were reproached for this. So what's the deal here? What unites all this audience - from singers from the category of "singing cowards" and swearing rappers to those who really could, until recently, be classified as cultural figures?

The reason here, most likely, is one. In the absolute lack of ideas and lack of spirituality of those of our "rulers of thoughts" that are now being discussed. The only measure for them has long been material wealth, huge money and a "beautiful life." Any hard times for such characters looks like a reason to fear that their earnings will decrease - so they freak out. The concepts of patriotism, civic duty and similar “abstractions” are generally beyond their perception. They don't really exist for them. There is nothing to be surprised here. After all, to tell the truth, our "culture" since the 80-90s of the last century has become a more or less exact copy, a tracing paper of the Western "mass cult". Whatever you take - music, cinema, literature, this is the case. No, there are those who managed not to lose themselves, to remain Russian people and prove that, for example, rock music and patriotism are quite compatible. However, the bulk, the "mainstream" of the Russian cultural space turned out to be completely saturated with the poison of Western deceitful and hypocritical "values", hence the result. Vulgarity, stupidity, frank obscenity and open propaganda of indulgence to the basest instincts - didn’t all this gradually overwhelm the same television with its frankly moronic shows and soap operas, made, again, like a blueprint from Western models? There is no need to talk about stage. Why are we surprised now?

To our great regret, in parallel to all this, another process was going on - the transformation of buffoons, dancing and grimacing for the amusement of the public, buffoons, into some special, higher caste. In people whose opinion is not just significant (why would it be?!), but especially valuable and important for society. The result is obvious. Or rather, a spit in the face of all of us. However, in the case of Russia, the rise of completely unworthy personalities, alas, was not limited to this alone.

What people do you serve?

The most surprising thing is that in parallel with the accession of Western standards and principles in the domestic culture, the system of state support and encouragement of the figures of this very culture, inherited from the Soviet Union, has been preserved in it. In the form of the allocation of solid budgetary funds for various "art projects", some of which, if they are worthy of being the subject of someone's consideration, then only psychiatrists or employees of the relevant bodies responsible for encroachments on state security (or, at least, public morality and ethics). The system of awarding the titles of People's and Honored Artists to particularly distinguished "fighters of the cultural front" and even awarding them high state awards has also been preserved. Personally, I have a big question is the wording "well-deserved". She, already by her very name, implies precisely service - to her country, her people, certain ideals, after all. Serving, as you know, warriors and priests. The rest are working.

The difference between work and service is obvious. In the first case, the performance of certain actions for a certain fee "from call to call" and purely within the framework of functional duties. The second refers to the activity to which a person gives his all. Entirely, without a trace and not for something, but in the name of something. By the way, during it they did not work in Russian theaters - they served there. And where is it all now? Russian cultural figures, whose work can really be attributed to the ministry, who are popular not by title, but by their essence, by their true status, which cannot be falsified, one or two and counted. The rest are, at best, hard workers. And they are ready to work for the one who pays more and offers more pleasant conditions. Nothing for the soul - just business ...

A strange thing - the "whip" in the form of censorship, artistic councils (looking at modern film slander, you begin to wonder - were they really that bad?) And various structures that sacredly guarded the loyalty of the "ideological line" disappeared. But the "gingerbread" - he remained, and even became much sweeter. After all, the current earnings of "corporate stars" singers and actors of the Soviet era did not even dream of. So we got a completely natural result - a creative “party”, which simply got drunk (excuse the rough definition). And at the same time, she began not only to demand a very special attitude towards herself, her loved ones, but also imagined that she had the right to tell the whole country how to live, what she should love and hate, elevating her own “priceless” opinion to a certain absolute. Perhaps it's time to correct this unfortunate omission. And in the most resolute, cardinal and tough way.

And this is not only about the fact that the people in the face of spectators and listeners, who provide a “sweet life” with their money for those who then allow themselves to call them “morons” and “cattle” should simply “vote with their feet”, completely ignoring the speeches completely certain "cultural figures". Those who have stained themselves with anti-state rhetoric, Russophobia, disdainful and openly hostile attitude towards the country that is their homeland. At the highest level, the system of relations between the state and society with the "creative intelligentsia" should be completely revised. Do you, gentlemen, want financial and informational support, apply for certain statuses and awards? So please match! The title of the Honored One must really be earned, perhaps forgetting about earnings. Do you want otherwise? How about in the West you love so much? So I haven't heard anything about people's artists of the USA or Great Britain. Equally, by the way, as well as about pumping money from the local treasury into someone's "creativity".

A country that is today, in fact, in a state of open war with the entire Western world, cannot afford the existence of a “fifth column” inside it, which has a certain popularity in society and is capable of broadcasting to a huge audience. So far, the people think, feel, perceive what is happening in the right way. But this is happening, let's be frank, for the most part not thanks to, but in spite of the multitude of "cultural figures". When this text was close to completion, an entry appeared in the telegram channel of Maria Zakharova, which can cause nothing but immense surprise and deep disappointment.

In it, a respected representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry urges “not to persecute in a loyal frenzy” against the Bi-2 group, whose musicians refused to perform in Omsk with a banner “For the President!”, disrupted the concert, and even committed an ugly scandal. Ms. Zakharova believes that now we must “not use the moment for opportunistic purposes, extinguish anger and aggression in ourselves, no matter how noble motives they may be caused, maintain dignity, unite and be wise.” Sounds weird, to say the least. And as long as such “signals” come “from above”, we will have the “culture” that, alas, we have now.
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  1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
    Kofesan (Valery) 3 May 2022 08: 54
    All this is correct. And it is even better to include in this analysis not only individuals, but also groups of them, up to peoples and countries.

    Isn't there a tendency when the more untalented "non-brothers" get for "freebies" (that is, obviously not what they deserve), the more fiercely the hatred for the giver's hand is manifested. Moreover, not at the level of personal gratitude to "Peskov", but already at the level of "Russians" ... Some kind of hypertrophied to the scale of countries effect from an intelligent truth:

    If you want enmity with your neighbor... - give him a loan.

    INJUSTICE!. Look at Kazakhstan, the Baltic states, the Moscow beau monde, Serebryakova, Svanidze ... or those in power in the field, busy dividing what they did not create! Their "bahatstvo" consists of fraud and agreements. Ascended on the mountains from the "manna from heaven" that was shed on them ... not because of personal talents, successes and merits, labors to the point of exhaustion! And in advance! For devotion to the hand of the giver ... in demand in the future. And now the "future" has come ... So what?

    In 99% of cases, the effect is ... strictly the other way around. Expected gratitude is deformed into hatred. And as a logical conclusion - into Russophobia, even at the level of some kind of Chulpan or Galkin, for example ... (well, I could never appreciate the grimacing lips of his dialogues and I can’t remember anything, absolutely nothing that he (they) said ...) .

    And it's all about the unfair distribution of wealth.
  2. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 3 May 2022 09: 50
    In fact, officials like Peskov, Zakharova (parrots, according to their position), who do not have the right to express their own opinion, but the opinion of the department from which they receive rations and privileges, should understand that these statements are a reason for dismissal.
  3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 3 May 2022 10: 38
    The behavior is unworthy and, let's call a spade a spade, frankly treacherous in relation to their own homeland, the army and society, which supports the special operation in its absolute majority. Passions around this issue do not subside - especially since the "masters of culture" almost every day give more and more reasons for this.

    Whatever the author thinks, they express the opinion of a part of Russian society.

    The only measure for them has long been material wealth, huge money and a "beautiful life." Any hard times for such characters looks like a reason to fear that their earnings will decrease - so they rage

    Well, then their position, expressed publicly, cannot be called mercantile, rather it speaks of their adherence to principles. For these statements, they will lose their income in Russia, and for the majority this is the only income. Nobody in the West needs them.

    Those who have stained themselves with anti-state rhetoric, Russophobia, disdainful and openly hostile attitude towards the country that is their homeland. At the highest level, the system of relations between the state and society with the "creative intelligentsia" should be completely revised.

    Totalitarianism has never led anyone to anything good.

    Equally, by the way, as well as about pumping money from the local treasury into someone's "creativity".

    Fully agree with the author. Disperse the Ministry of Culture. If culture is interesting to citizens, then it will feed itself, if it is not interesting, then why finance it.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 3 May 2022 17: 37
      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      Whatever the author thinks, they express the opinion of a part of Russian society.

      They left our society. sad

      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      Well, then their position, expressed publicly, cannot be called mercantile, rather it speaks of their adherence to principles.

      It's time to make up legends about the "principledness" of this public. laughing

      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      Totalitarianism has never led anyone to anything good.

      Why didn't you tell the Nazi Bandera about this before?

      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      If culture is interesting to citizens, then it will feed itself ...

      Are you stupid? smile
  4. Vladimir Golubenko (Vladimir Golubenko) 3 May 2022 10: 45
    Ideology is needed. And artistic advice is needed. There would not be this frank ... on the screens and the dominance of American films. Even cartoons and films like Harry Potter bring up laziness, faith in miracles and in wealth that has fallen from the sky. Keep this rubbish out of our screens. That is why we need an ideology, censorship and artistic advice for our films.
  5. Dingo Offline Dingo
    Dingo (Victor) 3 May 2022 11: 45
    Is it not about this so-called. "culture" said the worthy daughter of a worthy father Maria Shukshina at her award ceremony? And with what stone faces the officials listened to her ...
  6. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 3 May 2022 12: 15
    But we fed this showshushera ourselves, with our own laborers, coming by the millions to their stadium-plywood antics and voiceless singing, from which their breath spirals in their goiter with joy, so they imagined themselves to be "educators" of the masses, carrying and cutting the truth - how the young Makarevichs started all this, and since they were engaged in simple farce in those days, they resold all kinds of foreign stuff bought from "navigators", vinyl, cigarettes, etc. foreign, longed-for "dream" of young undergrowths , and this is how their craving for everything "beautiful" foreign went, and their disregard for our "soviet squalor". It is rightly said that free wealth corrupts in all its forms, and most importantly, in spirituality and humanity, because we, a simple Russian people, for them they are just rogues, and stupid goyim who need to be shown the right path to our happy future. No, we don’t need such singing-artistic constellations that feed on Russia, and pour mud over their country over the hill ..... Yesterday there was a showing of the film "Eternal Call" on TV, and I wanted to watch it again, but I just didn’t because the once wonderful actress Ada Rogovtseva, who has now become an ardent Russophobe, played in it.
  7. Antor Offline Antor
    Antor 3 May 2022 12: 40
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, in the person of Zakharova, sometimes gives strange messages to our society and the impression that they work there for those who had, have and will have a huge influence - our mostly anti-patriotic oligarchy and a large layer of cultural intelligentsia hostile to Russia serving it. It was not the people who created it, it was our moneybags who raised it on a pedestal, paying them such fees that it is incomprehensible to the mind. And this is with millions of essentially poor people in our country !!!
    If you take a closer look at this party, then this is not a cultural association of talents, it is closer to a sect based on a hostile ideology, chattering and imitation of Western values ​​.... !!!
    So much demonism has appeared in our media, theaters and cinemas, up to coping with natural needs on the stages of our theaters and not in Tmutarakan, but in Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc. !!!
    Not to mention the mockery of the memory of our fathers and grandfathers in the Second World War and the direct distortion of historical truth. wherever you could reach it - on television, social networks, books, etc.
    The absence of any conceivable and reasonable restriction and control on the part of the state through the Ministry of Culture, the pumping of this reigning public through various kinds of multimillion-dollar grants allowed this dangerous lack of spirituality and betrayal to flourish, which showed the flight of rats abroad as soon as the Special Operation proclaimed by the president began. !!!
    We didn’t see it or didn’t hear it, but now we are surprised at the nature of the behavior of these essentially traitors, brazenly dictating the conditions where and under what they will or will not act ..... !!!
    Our warrior heroes, defending the country and us, do not consider it shameful and shameful to go into a mortal battle with the Ukrofascists under the letter ZVO, and the artists allow this vile trick ... !!!??
    Zakharova defends Bi-2, Peskov does not hesitate to defend Urgant, ..... and how can you understand Foreign Minister Lavrov that Russia is not going to overthrow the Zelensky regime, is not going to conquer Ukraine ...!!??? And how can you carry out the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine without going through it from edge to edge and not only after that leaving the people of Ukraine to decide their fate..!!??
    And if this continues on the part of the authorities, then the question involuntarily arises, and who and whom is poisoning in our country, and even with the connivance, or even explicit protection ..... and then what are we trying to achieve. ..!!!?? We still believe that everything will return to normal ... !!!
    It is very lacking, as Solovyov-SMERSHA says ... and I agree with him, it hurts a lot of rottenness we have divorced during these soulless, ideological years, saturated with only one value - the thirst for insane profit at any cost and as much as possible.
  8. zzdimk Offline zzdimk
    zzdimk 3 May 2022 12: 43
    BI-2 - I am very sorry that they sound in Balabanov's films. Spleen - forgot and threw it away. Many others are there. Let them go where they feel good, where they will earn money, using what is understandable only to Russians. They are traitors.
    Not political sacrifices. They are moral abominations, greedy for money. Personally, I don't need these.
  9. akm8226 Offline akm8226
    akm8226 3 May 2022 13: 39
    I will not spread my thoughts along the tree. I will say what I personally, as a person who has something to do with art, is absolutely convinced. I am absolutely convinced that in all times and among all peoples, people of art, as they have a subtle feeling of modernity, should always be with their country! Always! And if someone does not understand this, then kick into the promised land forever. Remember, as soon as they did not flatter in the USSR and in Russia, too, that same Madame Broshkin? I deliberately do not call her by her last name, because this is not her real name. And what do we have? And the fact that having received everything from the cattle, she just dumped with her husband bought where? That's right, in Israel! God grant that forever! Can you imagine that the same Shulzhenko refused to go to the front to give a concert during the war? Or would Gurchenko not sing in front of the wounded soldiers? And some of ours ... did not even speak against the background of the letter Z. This is what betrayal is! In its most natural form. When snickering .... they tell us all indicatively - we shit on all of you, on your ideals and on your wars, the main thing for us is fatter sausage. Well, I think we should give them all the opportunity to prove themselves. And after we put all Bandera in line for the gallows, everyone who did not support our fighters will be deprived of ALL regalia, titles, awards and other values. For they are not worthy! It's that simple - they don't deserve it!
  10. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 3 May 2022 14: 13
    The ugly convulsions of our "creative intelligentsia" is a reflection of our real ideology. A sane person does not want to return to the USSR, where the victorious country eked out a semi-beggarly existence, and the defeated countries enjoyed the benefits of Western socialism, which peacefully coexisted with capitalism. This is the modern ideology of the absolute majority of people in the Russian Federation. Another ideology of universal equality in poverty in Russia will never pass, because we have experienced it in our own skin. The modern standard of living in the Russian Federation is quite satisfactory for the older generation, but we want our children to enjoy the benefits of Western civilization. Modern people got rich in many ways - officials at the expense of cutting budget funds and kickbacks, oligarchs stealing, cultural workers from pop music, exploiting the base feelings of people. But there were representatives of genuine culture, to which I include Anna Netrebko and Chulpan Khamatova. These artists, like all of us, believed in the inviolability of the principles of Western civilization, but now they are faced with a choice - to deprive their families of material well-being or to pretend that they are distancing themselves from the war with Ukraine. Talented people need to be forgiven, and traitors from pop music will survive themselves.
  11. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 3 May 2022 15: 16
    Most officials and oligarchs use Koreiko's scheme - it's stupid to steal. Ostap Bender used a creative approach in acquiring money. But in the USSR it was unrealistic to sell money. Ostap Bender dreamed of doing this in Rio de Janeiro, but on the border with Romania he faced the harsh reality of Western democracy. In modern Russia, everything goes to bribes. Therefore, our officials and cultural workers are trying to sell the money they have earned and stolen in the EU and the USA. They try to rein in the officials, but cultural workers are free to dispose of themselves even with honestly earned money.
  12. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 3 May 2022 15: 19
    It is necessary to completely expel the liberals from all ministries of culture: from federal to regional. It is necessary that they perform the functions of bringing culture to the people, and not vulgarity, debauchery and obscenity, such as the Moscow Ministry of Culture, which gives state. money for a play about Himmler.
  13. Anatole 46 Offline Anatole 46
    Anatole 46 (Anatoly) 3 May 2022 19: 17
    I would like, quoting Bunin, "to praise the talented author." And without sarcasm! The only, in my opinion, controversial, is that over the hill they don’t swell funds from the treasury into the so-called creativity. They swell, how! Hollywood, plays, books, the hand of democracy is almost visible everywhere... "Almost" just recently I watched an interview with R. Waters, where he reasoned quite sensibly about the current situation. As for the rest, I agree with the author of the article without exceptions.
  14. VlVl Offline VlVl
    VlVl (VladVlad) 3 May 2022 19: 18
    Weird. "...Let's have the culture we have now." It is not we who have the culture. Vice versa.
  15. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 3 May 2022 20: 11
    And, instead of pressing the oligarchs, Russian and Ukrainian, who nurtured this Nazism,
    propaganda falls on those who have an opinion.

    How, we keep up, where they said, but who does not go???
    UK broken? no.
    those who instilled Nazism from Russian business circles punished? no.
    they don’t even say their name ... for no reason, these are their own.

    And you need to distract the people ... but so, slightly. elite
    So Urgant suddenly became a "prominent patriot" ... they say, press ordinary dissatisfied people, but your own, the rich and celebrities - no
  16. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
    ivan2022 (ivan2022) 3 May 2022 20: 19
    Quote: VlVl
    Weird. "...Let's have the culture we have now." It is not we who have the culture. Vice versa.

    This is true. If the people have politicians, there is only one reason: the people have not nominated and do not have their own politicians.

    If we have "culture" - this is a sure sign that we do not really have our own culture.
    No matter what they lie and drag Pushkin with Dostoevsky.
  17. Poligraf Poligrafovich (Vadim Vorobyov) 3 May 2022 23: 55
    ... Did Masha eat the wrong cookie? Completely collapsed from the oak? One for the "big patriot" with bulging eyes to speak, this one is talking about some kind of "aggression" ... Are they also rushing from impunity?
  18. skeptic Offline skeptic
    skeptic 4 May 2022 10: 12
    Money corrupts only "leeches" that blindly move to their smell. This reveals the essence of the "stars". For me - to deprive all of them of Russian citizenship. Upon arrival, on posters to publish "anti-Russian foreign agent."
  19. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 4 May 2022 12: 49
    Russia has those whom it has brought up. They want to build an imperial Russian state, but they consider themselves the heir to the USSR. They destroyed Russia, but they blame the USSR for this. What could such words bring up a new man of this Russia. As one of the guilaytors of Russia admitted, nails are brought from China, matches too.
  20. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) 4 May 2022 16: 54
    To do nothing ! Let TAM show their "genius". Pea jesters. From childhood, I felt false ... URO..Y.
  21. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 4 May 2022 21: 44
    Russophobes to deprive the citizenship of the Russian Federation and deported from the Russian Federation with confiscation of property. This will at least partly cover the costs of receiving Russian refugees in the Russian Federation.
  22. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 4 May 2022 23: 36
    Popularity in the Russian Federation does not open the door to the West, the recognition of which opens the door to world fame and a non-poor existence.
    This is about the same as knowing English - you can write anything in Russian, but only translation into English will receive recognition.
  23. Truvor Offline Truvor
    Truvor (Andrey Shardin) 5 May 2022 17: 20
    Precious. Everything is written correctly and there seems to be nothing to add. But I want to ask: So what? This topic is rather minor at the present time. There are more important ones. However, two fundamental questions arise on this topic. 1. Who is to blame? 2. What to do about it? The first answer is simple - EVERYTHING. The second one is even easier - no one really knows what to do with it. They warned more than 2000 years ago - do not create an idol for yourself. And one well-known representative of an indefinite genre "subtly" noticed that "the people say hawala". "People" "hawal, hawala and will hawal" and beyond. Smart people have long been sick of almost everything that is shown on TV. But many people watch and laugh, and go to concerts and give flowers. So people like what some people don't like. But this is their business, largely depends on education. But education is just not there. Not at home, not at school, nowhere. And to hell with those who ran away. The rest would rally. Only now there is no one to rally and around what and whom it is not clear. After all, we have the same system as everyone else.
    While Putin was engaged in the restoration of any economy and the revival of the army, it seems that no one in the country was doing anything significant anymore. Everyone was basically occupied with the task of "catching up and overtaking America", however, in the sphere of consumption. Caught up already and overtaken probably. And they caught up with Europe. This became the main ideology of the country. And why be surprised now. The war that has begun can greatly reduce this consumption in all areas. Over there, over the hill, because they also want to consume and no less than ours. And they need our land and natural and fossil resources. But our competition is not needed. The redistribution of property and spheres of influence has always led to wars... world wars. And only nuclear weapons do not allow it to start in the hot phase. Till. So shtee .. dear mother Russians, do not care about these departed artists, singers and "singer".
    Traitors have always been and will be. We now have a matter of life and death and the preservation of our country. This, of course, does not negate the protection of all its resources from the brazen encroachment of "partners", especially energy resources.
    Without them, it will be impossible to build a new economy, which will have to lead to an increase in the standard of living, and, therefore, to what? ..., correctly, an increase in consumption. And all over again.
  24. Wowa127 Offline Wowa127
    Wowa127 (Vladimir Maksimenko) 5 May 2022 20: 48
    Surnames. addresses. appearances.
  25. magdama Offline magdama
    magdama (igor) 6 May 2022 15: 43
    Stop writing and talking in general about such people! And to call such "highly moral" by last name, first name and patronymic!
  26. Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
    Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) 6 May 2022 16: 15
    IMHO, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is now causing irreparable harm to the military operation when it broadcasts that there is no goal of eliminating the Kyiv Nazi regime. This is akin to if Molotov announced that the goal of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War was not the elimination of the Nazi regime and its unconditional surrender.
  27. Moskal 55 Offline Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 6 May 2022 18: 12
    Are you aliens? Just arrived at our place? Yes, just 31 years ago we destroyed our USSR and "privatized" public property. Our Kozyrev was the Minister of Foreign Affairs! We have the Yeltsin Museum and the Gorbachev Foundation! Chubais had just left, and so he performed the post! "Echo of Moscow" has just been shut down, and on YouTube, its leaders "feed" liberals throughout our long-suffering Russia with their tryndez. After all, no one in power has yet said that "perestroika" and the collapse of the USSR was a catastrophic mistake! Therefore, nothing in the behavior of our corrupt cultural figures is surprising. The large number of people who support their Russia is surprising. Hopefully that number doesn't drop too much as things get tense. And the rest - strength and patience!
  28. ivan2022 Offline ivan2022
    ivan2022 (ivan2022) 7 May 2022 10: 17
    Quote: Kofesan
    All this is correct. It's all about the unfair distribution of wealth.

    Perhaps that is why the Russian people followed Yeltsin, that the people did not like and considered "stupid and utopian" Soviet ideas and laws. But how do you actually execute them? They chose another, their own, native, REAL ..
    1. guest Offline guest
      guest 7 May 2022 15: 42
      What people followed Yeltsin?
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 7 May 2022 16: 28
        Drinker? laughing
  29. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 8 May 2022 01: 19
    Solidarity with the author. Recently I carefully read the dictionary definition of what "liberalism" is - I was unpleasantly surprised. It turns out that this is a bourgeois political movement ... oligarchs, ultimately trying to justify the exploitation of man by man. Our political leadership has become obsolete.