Russia's border regions with Ukraine are turning into the "Greater Donbass"


The special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine has been going on for three months now. Many Russians, who have been constantly assured since 2014 that the Russian Armed Forces are an order of magnitude stronger than the Armed Forces of Ukraine and at any moment can cross the border of a neighboring state and “heap hard” on everyone there, sincerely wonder why everything has taken so long. Why, instead of rejoicing at the Russian tricolor over Kyiv, residents of the regions bordering Ukraine are now experiencing what our people in the Donbas have experienced over the past 8 years.


And after all, some parallels are really visible, but let's talk about this in order. In 2014, after the coup d'état in Ukraine, both the supreme power and the army were simultaneously absent. The legitimate President Yanukovych, saving his life, was forced to flee to Russia. At that time, the Kremlin had many quite working scenarios. For example, it was possible to return Viktor Fedorovich to Kyiv, giving him a regiment of the Airborne Forces and OMON to disperse the “children”. That would be the end of the Maidan, as happened in 2020 in Belarus. It was possible to support the team of Igor Strelkov and create Greater Novorossiya from Kharkov to Odessa, in fact forcing Kyiv to the federalization/confederalization of Ukraine. It was possible not to go there at all, but also not to recognize the regime of Petro Poroshenko as legal, creating a Ukrainian government in exile in Rostov-on-Don with President Yanukovych and Prime Minister Azarov at the head, which would become an alternative center of gravity for anti-Maidan forces.

Alas, the most short-sighted half-hearted solution was chosen instead. Crimea and Sevastopol became part of the Russian Federation, while the rest of Ukraine remained under the rule of the neo-Nazi regime, which immediately began to prepare for war. The DPR and LPR did not receive recognition from Moscow and hung halfway for 8 years, being shelled from large-caliber cannon artillery and MLRS of the Armed Forces of Ukraine almost daily. By the way, shelling continues to this day, even worse than before. The life of millions of Russian people who, against their will, ended up in the "Greater Transnistria" turned into a nightmare. An even bigger nightmare for them was the Kremlin’s continuous attempts to push the DNR and LNR back into Nazi Ukraine “on a special status.” As time passed, the main "heroes" behind the "Minsk Conspiracy - 1" and "Minsk Conspiracy - 2" were revealed. These are the Ukrainian billionaire Viktor Medvedchuk, better known as "Putin's godfather", and the now former assistant to the President of the Russian Federation Vladislav Surkov, the "evil genius" of Novorossiya, who jointly did everything to ensure that it never took place.

And now, after 8 years of doing nothing in this direction, with the exception of the supply of motor fuel for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the pumping of gas through the Ukrainian GTS, we suddenly decided that it was time to demilitarize and denazify Nezalezhnaya. But then it turned out that the task is not so simple as it seemed to many all these years.

Over the past 8 years, practically nothing has been done to strengthen the defense capability of the DPR and LPR, and now unprepared civilians have had to be mobilized and thrown into battle almost with Mosin rifles. During the same time, Kyiv created and, with the help of NATO military experts, trained and armed a 250-strong army, as well as the Territorial Defense Forces, which can be increased from 10 in peacetime to 140 or more in wartime. Over the years, the most powerful fortified areas with many kilometers of concrete tunnels and bunkers have been created in the Donbass. Ukrainian soldiers are treated with aggressive Russophobic propaganda and are motivated. Many who are now fighting there against the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the People’s Militia of the DPR and LPR are those who still went to school during the Maidan and were brought up on hatred for Russia, which “took away Crimea”, and for all sorts of “separatists” there Donbass.

And how did Moscow respond to such a serious threat in its underbelly, which has been growing for 8 years like a cancerous tumor? A special military operation, in which fewer forces are involved than the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard have, instead of a normal, full-fledged war.

Yes, in the first days of hostilities, the superiority of the Russian Armed Forces in strike weapons and aviation did its job, but then offensive activity noticeably got bogged down in defense, based on Ukrainian fortified areas in cities. At the same time, the very course of the SVO from the very first days began to raise a lot of questions. Thinking people were perplexed why Ukrainian state symbols were not removed in the already liberated regions, why the rear was not cleared, why special military-civilian administrations were not created to control the localities. The real fury among ordinary Russians and adequate Ukrainians is caused by the comments of characters like the negotiator Medinsky or the “talking head” Peskov, calling for a peace agreement with the criminal regime of President Zelensky.

There is still no unequivocal answer to all these questions, but there is a hypothesis that the entire original plan of the special operation was based on showing up like a hussar and replacing Zelensky with, say, the same Medvedchuk, and then beautifully leaving into the sunset. It did not work if the idea was really just that. And then certain parallels with the events of 2014 begin.

Thus, the role of the new "Crimea" is now claimed by the Kherson region and the south of Zaporozhye, which no one will definitely give to Kyiv. The problem of water supply and a land corridor to the peninsula was solved only by force, and there is no way the RF Armed Forces can retreat from there. After the liberation of the territory of the DPR and LPR from Ukrainian occupation, the Azov region has good chances in the future to join the Russian Federation together with the two people's republics. And this is good.

But now, unfortunately, the entire territory of Russia bordering Ukraine is turning into the “Greater Donbass”. The number of artillery and mortar attacks, as well as air attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine against them is increasing daily. Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev rather ominously recommended checking the condition of bomb shelters in southern Russia. However, the danger will soon threaten not only the border regions, but also the central part of the Russian Federation. The fact that Kyiv has the right to attack our military infrastructure in the depths of the country was announced the day before by the Deputy Minister of Defense of Great Britain, James Hippie:

It is absolutely legal for Ukraine to strike deep into Russia to disrupt logistics, if these supplies are not disrupted, this will directly lead to death and bloodshed on the territory of Ukraine. And, you know, the point is that they have the right to make that choice.

And the Armed Forces of Ukraine already now have something to hit deep into Russia. US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland said that Kyiv received long-range MLRS systems:

So, to be absolutely clear, I will list: MLRS are already being delivered, there are allies who are working on aircraft, and besides this, there are a huge number of spare parts for military aircraft that are already changing the situation.

This, apparently, is about the M142 HIMARS MLRS, which can hit targets in areas at a distance of up to 260 kilometers. It is also possible that the American OTRK ATACMS will appear in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which, depending on the modification, can hit a distance of 140 to 300 kilometers. And this is clearly not the limit of what the United States and its allies can deliver to Ukraine. Just imagine where such a ballistic missile launched from Kharkov, Kyiv, Chernihiv or Sumy regions can reach. The entire border Russia is in fact turning into the “Greater Donbass”.

Yes, this is a hint that the withdrawal of Russian troops from northern Ukraine was a strategic mistake, as well as their entry there without a plan B in case Medvedchuk did not work out. This grand gesture to withdraw the RF Armed Forces from the Kyiv, Chernihiv and Sumy regions, made by President Putin, was the wrong decision. We still have to return there, creating a “security belt”, which we will discuss in detail they said previously. Unfortunately, there are parallels here with the events of 2014, when the DPR troops almost reached Genichesk, from where it was a stone's throw to the Crimea and the creation of a land corridor. But then the go-ahead was given to turn around, and the land corridor to the peninsula had to be forgotten for a long 8 years. At the same time, according to an agreement with the oligarch Akhmetov, Mariupol was actually presented to him at the same time. Over the past years, Azov (an extremist organization banned in the Russian Federation) settled there, turning this wonderful seaside city into a stronghold of Ukrainian Nazism. Uprooting it in 2022 was possible only together with Mariupol itself, which now lies in ruins. Such is the price of "beautiful gestures".

And, finally, I would like to say a few words about the negotiations between Moscow and Kyiv on a certain peace agreement. All the current problems of Russia and Ukraine occurred precisely because in 2014 they decided to agree amicably with the Nazis and their Western curators. Adequate Ukrainians in the territories occupied by the Russian Armed Forces are now listening with horror to the statements of Medinsky and Peskov, which do not bode well for them. If now "Minsk" goes on the third run and Zelensky's criminal regime is left with at least a piece of territory, there will be a short pause for pumping weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard and preparing for an even more terrible massacre than the one that is going on now.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 28 2022 15: 50
    0
    Well, at least not in "big Grozny".
    It can be seen that someone really expected that we would shoot, but they did not.
    They themselves wrote that Ukrainians are Russians, and Russians do not give up. Moreover, there is no reason to surrender to the Ukrainian oligarchs - Deripaska will come and take everything away. (as they would have taken away from the father, if only he had dreyfil). And so, it will be possible to defend production and processing - and they will be with sandwiches with caviar.

    So either everything is going according to a cunning plan (like, we’re about to hit it), or there is no plan at all. (all failures in import substitution and price increases are attributed to the operation and the West, and the dissatisfied are pressed to the nail)
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 28 2022 16: 04
      +1
      It can be seen that someone really expected that we would shoot, but they did not.
      They themselves wrote that Ukrainians are Russians, and Russians do not give up.

      I have been writing since 2014 that if we leave everything as it is, we will wash ourselves with blood. Here we wash.

      Well, at least not in "big Grozny".

      How is Mariupol not Grozny? If you stop now, then any other large city of Ukraine will turn into Marik - Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, etc.
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 28 2022 17: 20
        -4
        Such an article about "regions of Russia", and "Mariupol, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, etc.", is in Ukraine, and perhaps they are part of a cunning plan.

        By the way, even Mariupol does not pull on Grozny. Independents were crushed there - everything was plowed up to the horizon ....
      2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 28 2022 17: 34
        -4
        Quote: Marzhetsky
        I have been writing since 2014 that if we leave everything as it is, we will wash ourselves with blood. Here we wash.

        Uh .... my friend, from 14 you called for an imperialist war.

        Quote: Marzhetsky
        If you stop now, then any other large city of Ukraine will turn into Marik - Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, etc.

        And if you do not stop, they will not turn? Logics.
        I never thought that a 1984 novel could come true.
        1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) April 29 2022 07: 33
          -1
          Uh .... my friend, from 14 you called for an imperialist war.

          Olezha, the level of your competence in this matter is evidenced by the fact that you have been writing here on the Reporter since 2018 that there will never be any war between Russia and Ukraine and for nothing.
          It's not for you to talk about such things.

          And if you do not stop, they will not turn? Logics.
          I never thought that a 1984 novel could come true.

          I always knew that Russian liberals are a kind of holy fools.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 29 2022 15: 56
            -4
            Sergey, two months of SVO speaks about the level of your competence, although some, let's not point a finger at you, assigned the APU 10 hours. And I remember asserting that with the available forces it is impossible not only to conquer, but even to occupy Ukraine (leaving Kyiv as an example for you).

            Yes, I didn't believe in NWO (can I say that now?). I did not see (and do not see) the reasons for it. Her motives for starting are irrational. This means that the reasons for its implementation lie not in the material realm, the reasons for which can be analyzed, but in the realm of ideas, in the realm of psychiatry. And it's very scary! It is impossible to predict the further development of events. Moreover, the ideas of our elite, which are voiced by Medinsky and Surkov, are, let's say, rather peculiar. Certainly not the left. But you can rejoice. If the world survives this crisis, then after the next collapse we will face a left turn. Hopefully not too left.

            Quote: Marzhetsky
            I always knew that Russian liberals are a kind of holy fools.

            Should you say after reasoning like:

            Quote: Marzhetsky
            If you stop now, then any other large city of Ukraine will turn into Marik - Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, etc.

            Learn what doublethink is.
            1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) April 29 2022 16: 45
              -1
              Sergey, two months of SVO speaks about the level of your competence, although some, let's not point a finger at you, assigned the APU 10 hours. And I remember asserting that with the available forces it is impossible not only to conquer, but even to occupy Ukraine (leaving Kyiv as an example for you).

              Listen, you liberal liar. Here is a quote from my article you are referring to
              https://topcor.ru/22737-razgroma-vsu-za-50-minut-budet-nedostatochno-dlja-pobedy-nad-ukrainoj.html

              And what do we see? The other day we were pleased by a certain source in the RF Ministry of Defense, who announced the prospect of a conflict between the RF Armed Forces and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, that the Ukrainian army would be “neutralized” in a period of 50 minutes to 10 hours:

              To solve such a problem, a "bubble of no access" has been deployed in Crimea, and also on the peninsula and Novorossiysk there are all naval, aviation, artillery and missile and other means.

              Yes, the Russian army is objectively stronger than the Ukrainian one, but 50 minutes? Too jingoistic and inadequate sounds, so motley military experts had to decipher this message. It turns out that this is not at all about the "capture of Kiev" and not about the "occupation of Ukraine", but about some kind of "neutralization" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It supposedly refers to the delivery of missile and air strikes on command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, warehouses with ammunition and fuels and lubricants, points of communication, communications, and places of deployment of large military units. Indeed, in about 10 hours, this can probably be done by disorganizing the enemy's offensive and defensive potential. But what next? Will the military victory be secured legally and politically?

              Eh, no. Experts immediately explain that "neutralization" does not imply a "march to Kiev", because the public mood there is not the same. All that remains is to shrug your shoulders. It is interesting how world history would develop if I.V. Stalin at one time refused to introduce the Red Army into the territory of the Third Reich, because the Germans are anti-Soviet there? There, after all, no one will greet us with flowers, but "onizhedeti" from the Hitler Youth will shoot in the back. All this sounds very strange, to be honest. Let's think about the real result of such "neutralization" without going to Tbilisi, sorry, to Kiev. Well, we'll shoot rockets and destroy the military infrastructure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and what's next?

              Then there will be the following:

              Firstly, we will be slapped with a new package of tough Western sanctions, which could be the price for a military victory and the resolution of the “Ukrainian issue”, but will become a retribution for the inability to bring the matter to the end.

              Secondly, Kyiv will turn to NATO for help, and the probability of its entry into the alliance will approach 100%. In Ukraine they will say: look what these Russians are doing, we can’t do without you. Deliveries to the Armed Forces of Ukraine of new modern Western weapons are simply guaranteed. After missile and air strikes, the Pentagon will undoubtedly place elements of the American dual-purpose missile defense system in Independent, where anti-aircraft missiles can be replaced in a day with Tomahawks with nuclear warheads.

              Thirdly, having suffered a defeat that was not secured by an act of unconditional surrender, Ukrainian society will rally against Russia even more, finally squeezing out everything Russian from itself. You can imagine what it will be like for the Russians who live there and for various reasons cannot leave anywhere.

              This is only what lies on the surface, and there will be much more negative consequences. And why? But because the matter is still not brought to its logical conclusion. A military victory must always translate into a clear political outcome. Instead, the policy of half measures comes back again and again for Russia with more and more troubles.

              Learn what doublethink is.

              I have read Orwell. Apply it to yourself.
              1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 29 2022 17: 16
                -2
                Quote: Marzhetsky
                And indeed, 10 hours, probably, it can be done, disorganizing the offensive and defensive potential of the enemy. But what's next? Will whether military victory secured legally and politically?

                Waiting for an apology.
              2. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) April 29 2022 19: 29
                0
                Sergey Evgenievich, this type often does not understand the meaning of the written text. Some he is not quite Russian. Or pretending to be stupid. What is he waiting for now?
    2. Smilodon terribilis nimis April 28 2022 18: 19
      +4
      Do Russians shoot at civilians? Khokhols are geeks, evil spirits that have bred in unthinkable quantities.
  2. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
    Michael L. April 28 2022 16: 22
    +2
    Persuasive post.
    But in particular: if the Armed Forces of Ukraine receive from the Americans missile systems capable of hitting targets in the depths of the territory of the Russian Federation, then the "security belt" proposed by the Author is not a solution to the problem.
    In addition, the author hints at the incompetence of the Russian leadership.
    In this case, a "hint" from the unforgettable V. Vysotsky:

    Shah signed in complete inability
    Here, take it and replace it! Where to get?
    We have any second in Turkmenistan - Ayatollah and even Khomeini.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 29 2022 07: 59
      0
      But in particular: if the Armed Forces of Ukraine receive from the Americans missile systems capable of hitting targets in the depths of the territory of the Russian Federation, then the "security belt" proposed by the Author is not a solution to the problem.

      This is protection from artillery and mortar attacks, as well as from attacks by mobile armored groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on our settlements. To protect against missiles, it is necessary to equip air defense in the north of Ukraine.
      Of course, these are all half measures. The solution is the elimination of Ukroreikh.

      In addition, the author hints at the incompetence of the Russian leadership.

      Think what you want. But all this bloodbath is a direct consequence of the policy of our leadership since 2014. And they are not in a hurry to work on their mistakes.
  3. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) April 28 2022 17: 17
    +3
    Well done, Sergey. I'm afraid the gestures will continue. Soon Poland and Romania will begin, like jackals, to gnaw the outskirts at our expense. And while we let snot. We need a result.
  4. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) April 28 2022 17: 25
    +1
    Give me a break, and the West will pump Ukraine with weapons to the very end.
    Stop at the border of Poland, and DRGs and terrorists will constantly infiltrate from there.
    Attack Poland and get Art. 5 of the NATO Charter.
    Sweep hard and bloody Europe to the English Channel and get a nuclear strike from the United States.
    Do you understand the script?
    Only if Europe kicks Poland out of NATO can this scenario be avoided. But the war with Poland, alas, does not disappear from it.
    Or inflict a preventive nuclear strike on enemies, because in any case, I predict huge losses.
    1. Smilodon terribilis nimis April 28 2022 18: 21
      +1
      Article 5 will work on the territory of Germany, but not Poland. Or does anyone seriously believe that the Britons would risk their lives for Euro dwarfs? Did they arrange Brexit because of this?
  5. InanRom Offline InanRom
    InanRom (Ivan) April 28 2022 17: 35
    +6
    Generally true. And only the blind can fail to see it. And, the "strategic mistake" was the destruction of the USSR, and then the course towards the "market" and capitalism in Russia, where the population has always gravitated towards communal / social collectivism, in contrast to the Western cult of selfishness and "individual freedom" (like LGBT and BLM). Artificial planting of a ""free"" market", the Western way of life and thinking (alien to the Russian people) over the past three decades, the destruction of production and the appropriation of public property by a handful of rogue oligarchs, the destruction of education and science, looking into the mouths of "partners and colleagues ", Western-oriented and corrupt bureaucratic-oligarchic" ilika ", and gave rise to all the problems that have become clearly visible in the course of recent events.
    That is why the Russian people are suffering and Russian soldiers and officers are dying, therefore such "import substitution", and "national projects", therefore the country's reserves are no longer stored by potential and, but by obvious opponents (and, accordingly, they are confiscated), therefore muddy "negotiations" , Medina, Abramovichs, and the lack of clarity, Therefore, no one is responsible for anything, and the "special adviser" Chubais, a protege of the West, and other top managers calmly and with impunity leave the cordon.
    The best fight is not started, but if you start a fight, fight to the death and stand to the end.
    Because, unlike a street fight, where a bad ending is bruises, fractures and bumps, in the current situation of a "hybrid war" against the EU, NATO and states, a bad ending is the death of the whole country. And as always again, "Rafik is innocent."
    In the meantime, only the courage of Russian soldiers and the legacy so hated by the current "Ilitka", the USSR, saves the country from catastrophe.
    Punished Poland got out:

    ECONOMY 15:49, 28 April 2022 Gazprom accused Poland of receiving Russian gas through Germany

    Gazprom (the same "national property" where the German Matthias Warnig, as well as the notorious ex-chancellor) Gerhard Schroeder and other foreigners, sat on the board for many years) accused ..... epic ....

    Gazprom: Poland buys Russian gas in reverse from Germany
    After the suspension of Russian gas supplies, Poland began to buy fuel from Germany, Gazprom said. Russian newspaper

    Funny?!
    The West is increasing the supply of weapons, and Gazprom is increasing the supply of oil and gas to the suppliers of these weapons. If in February-March they blocked transit to Europe and the states, there would be no supplies, but alas, "our obligations under contracts" ... in relation to enemies, with payment for transit to Ukraine, are ridiculous, ridiculous and harmful. Russia is being slapped on the left cheek, while officials and merchants turn the right cheek instead of following the Old Testament - “An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth”! For with the enemy only this is necessary and possible!
    1. InanRom Offline InanRom
      InanRom (Ivan) April 28 2022 20: 22
      +4
      A series of powerful explosions thundered in the center of Kherson, which is under the control of the Russian military. The shelling was carried out from the side of the positions of Ukrainian troops in the area of ​​Nikolaev. The strike was carried out by three Tochka-U missiles, two of which were shot down.

      ask yourself: how many “arrivals” have already been on the territory of Russia, how many more will there be when Ukraine receives medium-range or extended-range missile systems, when arrivals begin in peaceful cities far from the front line?! if out of 3 points U (old Soviet) only 2 were shot down and this is in front-line conditions, then what will happen if the Ukrainians receive more or less modern missiles (and this is not such a fantasy, as some believe, because the West will lay down with bones, just to harm Russia) and how many of them will fall on our cities?! and why? Because someone is playing at negotiations, not delivering the promised "attacks on decision-making centers" (which surprises even Western intelligence services and analysts), which only become impudent from such impunity?! And it's still not a war? and you need to negotiate with the Ukrobander regime?! Swung - hit! And do not shuffle your foot in a curtsey! The blood of Russian soldiers, the people of Russia and Donbass is not water and not a subject for games!
    2. Starover_Z Offline Starover_Z
      Starover_Z (Yuri) April 29 2022 14: 21
      +1
      Quote from InanRom
      Russia is being slapped on the left cheek, while officials and merchants turn the right cheek instead of following the Old Testament - “An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth”! For with the enemy only this is necessary and possible!

      So the hucksters do not turn their cheeks, and also bringing the matter to military operations, they themselves do not get involved in them - this is not a lordly thing they say!
  6. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 28 2022 17: 48
    -5
    For example, it was possible to return Viktor Fedorovich to Kyiv, giving him a regiment of the Airborne Forces and OMON to disperse the “children”.

    About the regiment as painfully familiar.

    But now, unfortunately, the entire territory of Russia bordering Ukraine is turning into the “Greater Donbass”. The number of artillery and mortar attacks, as well as air attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine against them is increasing daily.

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    2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 29 2022 07: 32
      +1
      For example, it was possible to return Viktor Fedorovich to Kyiv, giving him a regiment of the Airborne Forces and OMON to disperse the “children”.

      About the regiment as painfully familiar.

      In 2014, there was neither an army nor national battalions in Ukraine. It was enough for a regiment of riot police to disperse the Maidan. After the direct support of Yanyk from Russia, all local security forces would again begin to perform their duties, as expected.
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 29 2022 15: 18
        -2
        Even now you were going to crush in 10 hours.

        Quote: Marzhetsky
        A regiment of OMON was enough to disperse the Maidan.

        They did not have enough of their entire Ministry of Internal Affairs. Either way, it would be a postponement of the inevitable.
        1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) April 29 2022 16: 29
          -1
          Even now you were going to crush in 10 hours.

          I'll ask for a quote.
          Here is my article in question, apparently
          https://topcor.ru/22737-razgroma-vsu-za-50-minut-budet-nedostatochno-dlja-pobedy-nad-ukrainoj.html
          Title: Defeating the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 50 minutes will not be enough to defeat Ukraine

          And here is my text:

          And what do we see? The other day we were pleased by a certain source in the RF Ministry of Defense, who announced the prospect of a conflict between the RF Armed Forces and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, that the Ukrainian army would be “neutralized” in a period of 50 minutes to 10 hours:

          To solve such a problem, a "bubble of no access" has been deployed in Crimea, and also on the peninsula and Novorossiysk there are all naval, aviation, artillery and missile and other means.

          Yes, the Russian army is objectively stronger than the Ukrainian one, but 50 minutes? Too jingoistic and inadequate sounds, so motley military experts had to decipher this message. It turns out that this is not at all about the "capture of Kiev" and not about the "occupation of Ukraine", but about some kind of "neutralization" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It supposedly refers to the delivery of missile and air strikes on command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, warehouses with ammunition and fuels and lubricants, points of communication, communications, and places of deployment of large military units. Indeed, in about 10 hours, this can probably be done by disorganizing the enemy's offensive and defensive potential. But what next? Will the military victory be secured legally and politically?

          Eh, no. Experts immediately explain that "neutralization" does not imply a "march to Kiev", because the public mood there is not the same. All that remains is to shrug your shoulders. It is interesting how world history would develop if I.V. Stalin at one time refused to introduce the Red Army into the territory of the Third Reich, because the Germans are anti-Soviet there? There, after all, no one will greet us with flowers, but "onizhedeti" from the Hitler Youth will shoot in the back. All this sounds very strange, to be honest. Let's think about the real result of such "neutralization" without going to Tbilisi, sorry, to Kiev. Well, we'll shoot rockets and destroy the military infrastructure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and what's next?

          Then there will be the following:

          Firstly, we will be slapped with a new package of tough Western sanctions, which could be the price for a military victory and the resolution of the “Ukrainian issue”, but will become a retribution for the inability to bring the matter to the end.

          Secondly, Kyiv will turn to NATO for help, and the probability of its entry into the alliance will approach 100%. In Ukraine they will say: look what these Russians are doing, we can’t do without you. Deliveries to the Armed Forces of Ukraine of new modern Western weapons are simply guaranteed. After missile and air strikes, the Pentagon will undoubtedly place elements of the American dual-purpose missile defense system in Independent, where anti-aircraft missiles can be replaced in a day with Tomahawks with nuclear warheads.

          Thirdly, having suffered a defeat that was not secured by an act of unconditional surrender, Ukrainian society will rally against Russia even more, finally squeezing out everything Russian from itself. You can imagine what it will be like for the Russians who live there and for various reasons cannot leave anywhere.

          This is only what lies on the surface, and there will be much more negative consequences. And why? But because the matter is still not brought to its logical conclusion. A military victory must always translate into a clear political outcome. Instead, the policy of half measures comes back again and again for Russia with more and more troubles.

          And now about your second lie, liberal:

          They did not have enough of their entire Ministry of Internal Affairs. Either way, it would be a postponement of the inevitable.

          The Maidan became possible only because the local security forces simply stopped fulfilling their duties and brought Western gopota to Kyiv. If Russia had directly supported Yanyk, the controllability and loyalty of the security forces would have been preserved, the punks would have been dispersed for one evening from the Maidan.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 30 2022 13: 32
            -1
            Quote: Marzhetsky
            I'll ask for a quote.

            I already brought more than once. What are your problems?

            Quote: Marzhetsky
            And indeed, 10 hours, probably, it can be done, disorganizing the offensive and defensive potential of the enemy. But what's next? Will military victory be secured legally and politically?

            Still waiting for an apology.

            Quote: Marzhetsky
            The Maidan became possible only because the local security forces simply stopped fulfilling their duties and brought Western gopota to Kyiv. If Russia had directly supported Yanyk, the controllability and loyalty of the security forces would have been preserved, the punks would have been dispersed for one evening from the Maidan.

            These are your fantasies, nothing substantiated. The main maidan is Yanukovych. He has no one to blame but himself. And the "trigger" of the Maidan was the dispersal of students on the night of November 29-30 by a golden eagle with mass beatings. If foreign units did this, it is likely that the response would be even more massive.
  7. Griffith Offline Griffith
    Griffith (Oleg) April 28 2022 17: 57
    +4
    Not everything is as simple as you want. Back in the 90s, most of the party elite of the CPSU wanted to get a job in the West and betrayed the country. This led to the collapse of the USSR and the influx of hundreds of thousands of effective managers from the West, various agents of Western intelligence services, various dissidents on the payroll of the West, and descendants of the unfinished Nazis from America, Canada, Europe, Turkey, as well as various emissaries of satanic organizations to the former USSR countries. And now in Russia there are hundreds of thousands, if not several millions of Russians lured through various NGOs, grants, embassies, streams, etc., etc. Moreover, these are not ordinary hard workers, but people who are either embedded or near power in Russia. Now tell me how it was possible to solve the issue of Ukraine in 2014 in this situation. Now, at least badly, the army has been updated, agriculture, at least some import substitution. In 2014, this was practically non-existent. And for reference, why Russia will win. Everything is very simple. Russia has land to grow food, water, an army. This is the basis for the survival of any nation. And you won’t get enough of all sorts of derivatives, bitcoins, streaming platforms and other monetization if you don’t buy food and water for it. Soon it will be clear to everyone how real the GDP of America and Europe is inflated and what is the real position of Russia in the world. And then here they tell tales about 4% of world GDP.
  8. vlad127490 Offline vlad127490
    vlad127490 (Vlad Gor) April 28 2022 18: 00
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    Ask yourself. How many wars has the Russian Federation won over the past 30 years? None.
    Before fighting, it is necessary to legislate that the territory of Ukraine is the property of Russia, torn away as a result of a coup d'état in 1991 with the help of NATO.
    Then, the military operation carried out by Russia in Ukraine is the liberation of the territory of Russia occupied by separatists, the restoration of the territorial integrity of Russia.
    For example, in 2005, China passed the "Law on Anti-Secession of the State." According to the document, in the event of a threat to the peaceful reunification of the mainland and Taiwan, the PRC government is obliged to resort to force and other necessary methods to preserve its territorial integrity.
    The absence of a law stating that the territory of Ukraine is the property of Russia allows the enemies to interpret the special military operation carried out by Russia as aggression and occupation by Russia.
    1. Smilodon terribilis nimis April 28 2022 18: 26
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      Were there any significant ones? Well, the most significant is Syria. They were able to keep all these rabid dogs there. Well, Russia, as it were, is many times stronger than Syria.
      Let them interpret it as they please, but do not forget that in the event of a big mess, they will turn into ashes.
    2. Neville Stator Offline Neville Stator
      Neville Stator (Neville Stator) April 28 2022 18: 31
      0
      I win in Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Crimea
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    4. Hot Dyusha Offline Hot Dyusha
      Hot Dyusha (Dyusha) April 29 2022 01: 19
      +1
      Who looks at these laws, contracts and other pieces of paper? By God, like a child. There is the right of the strong and all treaties are wiped. Accept the law ... funny
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      2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) April 29 2022 16: 33
        -1
        Who looks at these laws, contracts and other pieces of paper? By God, like a child. There is the right of the strong and all treaties are wiped. Accept the law ... funny

        Learn the sciences, Dyusha, and you will be happy. You will laugh less at things you don't understand yet.
    5. unimog1 Offline unimog1
      unimog1 April 29 2022 01: 26
      +1
      A look at 30+ years ago is the only correct logic now. Otherwise, we're screwed.
    6. Orthodox Offline Orthodox
      Orthodox (Orthodox) April 29 2022 10: 20
      +1
      Absolutely correct !!!
  9. Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) April 28 2022 19: 13
    +2
    Absolutely.
  10. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) April 28 2022 19: 14
    +4
    The author is right. The situation is becoming incomprehensible, and the leadership continues to repeat strange mantras: all the tasks set for Ukraine certainly will be completed. To the above, one more important factor can be added, the inevitable decline over time in the morale of soldiers fighting in foreign territory. The operation must be completed before the summer
    1. Michael L. Offline Michael L.
      Michael L. April 28 2022 19: 37
      -1
      The shelling of their territory will raise the morale of Russian soldiers.
      But why volunteer detachments of Ukrainians are not created - which would speed up the operation and give it a different ideology - is incomprehensible!
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  11. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) April 28 2022 19: 47
    +7
    So far, we can definitely say that the Kremlin strategist did not really expect to fight, hence the idiotic marches along the roads at the beginning and, as a result, so many victims among ours, but the funny thing is that his intelligence or he himself turned out to be absolutely incompetent in what they wanted to separate the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Nazis, how is it necessary not to control the situation so that after 8 years of shelling the Donbass, not to understand that the army of the outskirts is the army of the Nazis. Well, all these negotiations are generally the height of idiocy, to say that there is a Nazi leadership in Kyiv and at the same time to negotiate with him on denazification, this can only be done not quite adequately
    1. tkot973 Online tkot973
      tkot973 (Konstantin) April 28 2022 23: 53
      +5
      I almost completely agree with you, as well as with the author of the article itself. Well done!
      Just like you, Victor, I believe that our intelligence has shown complete incompetence. Otherwise, I cannot explain the many oddities of this operation. This puncture resulted, first of all, in the blood of our guys. It's scary to think what other "dividends" he will bring in the near future.
      Some kind of infection brought a completely mangled picture to the supreme. I do not believe that Putin is inadequate in decision-making.
      Here I want to add more about our so-called. elites. Their fault in this is very big. They haven't been cleaned. And it is really not clear what our president was counting on, in this situation, when he gave the command. Really incomprehensible. Go into battle with traitors in your ranks? But on some escanders you won’t go far. He certainly understood this. And it was necessary to clean their ranks at an accelerated pace! But for some reason it hasn't been done.
      About negotiations. This is really a circus. Either intentional or misunderstanding. It's impossible to really understand.
      In general, thanks for the article and for the comment.
      With deep respect.
  12. akm8226 Offline akm8226
    akm8226 April 28 2022 20: 14
    +8
    Apparently GDP is not free in the problem of choice. He wants to be good for everyone, but that doesn't happen.
    For starters, it was a completely idiotic decision to limit our troops in decisions. Like, take care of civilians (??????) Mr. Putin - are you sick? Do you propose to protect those civilians who, by their action or inaction, brought the current Banderva to power? In short, you do not feel sorry for our military, but you are in tears about kaklof. And why all these curtseys to the West? The West doesn't give a damn about you and us from the high mountain, because it needs us only as food. And you all look around, the UN was called for help along Azov, instead of burying everyone to the center of the Earth in a couple of days !! The UN spat on you, and will spit again, because the UN is a US mongrel.
    It is a pity, Mr. Putin, that the lack of logic affects your decisions so much.
    1. Hot Dyusha Offline Hot Dyusha
      Hot Dyusha (Dyusha) April 29 2022 01: 15
      +2
      All to the point. There is nothing to add, except that the biggest liberal in the country is GDP. The person loves the West and the rest of the population. And you can catch up with a lot of soloists.
  13. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker April 28 2022 21: 36
    -1
    Russia's border regions with Ukraine are turning into the "Greater Donbass"

    This is too much. Have a conscience! Someone needs to retire or go to hell!!!
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  15. Hot Dyusha Offline Hot Dyusha
    Hot Dyusha (Dyusha) April 29 2022 01: 12
    -3
    Marzhetsky again did not get enough sleep and gave out an all-Propropan article and emphasized .... I still told you in 1917. Straight kashpirovsky.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 29 2022 07: 30
      0
      Who are you anyway, boy?
  16. Mihail55 Offline Mihail55
    Mihail55 (Michael) April 29 2022 05: 28
    +1
    Quote from InanRom
    Generally true. And only the blind can fail to see it. And, the "strategic mistake" was the destruction of the USSR, and then the course towards the "market" and capitalism in Russia, where the population has always gravitated towards communal / social collectivism, in contrast to the Western cult of selfishness and "individual freedom" (like LGBT and BLM). Artificial planting of a ""free"" market", the Western way of life and thinking (alien to the Russian people) over the past three decades, the destruction of production and the appropriation of public property by a handful of rogue oligarchs, the destruction of education and science, looking into the mouths of "partners and colleagues ", Western-oriented and corrupt bureaucratic-oligarchic" ilika ", and gave rise to all the problems that have become clearly visible in the course of recent events.

    That's the root of all problems! The President is not free to decide important matters...the consensus must be sought from the oligarchs (the new bosses of Russia)! Are they the best people in Russia? So Ulyukaev is already being released on parole ... the poor thing has been sitting too long. The country is on the verge of important events ... the Zemsky Sobor is to meet, moreover, very urgently. I think these are not representatives of the people .... stumped ... It's time to decide - what are we building, where are we going, and most importantly - WITH WHOM ??? Abramovich and Deripaska are our lights or MININS and POZHARSKIES???
  17. viktor goblin Offline viktor goblin
    viktor goblin (viktor goblin) April 29 2022 07: 54
    -1
    There is no one to put things in order in the "conservatory" - from that trouble.
  18. Dmitry X Offline Dmitry X
    Dmitry X (Dmitry X) April 29 2022 09: 49
    +3
    Fully agree with the author. The situation became extremely critical. If we also take into account the events in Transnistria and Poland's appetite for Western Ukraine, then it becomes clear that time is working against us and this work is accelerating every day. And the tactics we have chosen to slowly push through the enemy’s defense is beneficial primarily to the enemy. A powerful breakthrough is needed, and if possible more than one, with the consolidation and expansion of the occupied bridgeheads for a further blow to the rear of the enemy. This requires fresh forces with a numerical superiority in our direction at least twice. And mandatory is the introduction of martial law in the Russian Federation, or at least in the southwestern regions of the Russian Federation. This is not YOUR WAR! And the sooner we admit it, the more chances we have to win.
  19. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
    Dukhskrepny (Vasya) April 29 2022 10: 09
    -1
    General Ivashov warned in early February that it would be catastrophic for Russia to get involved in the war at the moment. With its colonial economy. He was accused of betrayal. Now, please. Mobilization will begin and the patriots will be the first to evade it
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  20. the_SteelReporter (Alexandr Martynov) April 29 2022 10: 19
    -3
    it was possible to return Viktor Fedorovich to Kyiv, giving him a regiment of the Airborne Forces and OMON to reinforce them to disperse the “children”. That would be the end of the Maidan, as happened in 2020 in Belarus. It was possible to support the team of Igor Strelkov and create a Greater Novorossiya from Kharkov to Odessa, in fact forcing Kyiv to the federalization / confederalization of Ukraine. It was possible not to go there at all, but also not to recognize the regime of Petro Poroshenko as legal, creating a Ukrainian government in exile in Rostov-on-Don with President Yanukovych and Prime Minister Azarov at the head, which would become an alternative center of gravity for anti-Maidan forces.

    Alas, the most short-sighted half-hearted solution was chosen instead. Crimea and Sevastopol became part of the Russian Federation, while the rest of Ukraine remained under the rule of the neo-Nazi regime, which immediately began to prepare for war

    Why post a certain "nonsense" (in quotation marks, I note)

    Sense that we would come "on bayonets"?

    After all, the Ukrainians were pumped up Already, after all, with propaganda

    And Any, more active action on its territory - caused a. maid support. "building" ("Did we say that Russia is the aggressor? - Here!")
    What would cause the most powerful manifestation of rebellion and the desire for "victory"
    Do you want the whole army as basics? - No? Well, nehir then inventing something to do
    Why did they do it this way?
    "Politics is a matter of cold heads"
    I will reveal that the Crimea is separated from the mainland and they occupied Perekop and that's it, "basta", a little one. For the rest, we did not occupy the army, because the front line and substitution under sanctions
    We weren't ready for that back then.
    Ukrainian power in exile? "Heh" - "Does anyone need them?" All these Guaydons
    I explain - "on the fingers": In Ukraine, after all, it turned out to be supported with might and main - the "new" government.
    And who is interested in those figures?
    Donbass? But he also spoke about Russian Spring, how can they be for Ukraine?
    "Also in flight"
    So shta ...
    Gu and what they wanted to push near Minsk 2 - "shtosh, thin world ..."

    And Only this hour, something apparently "converged on the stars"
    Has the preparation been done?
    PS well, for everything. We won’t pay attention to the nonsense about lib. power either - did we sell oil and gas to the comm? This means that the figure should have been, which is confidential in the west. [the stage of close cooperation with the app. - the pieces were rearranged on the board of the "Great Game"]
    So is that more understandable?

    PS For shelling, you know what would be better - here we took our Ukrainian troops from the north to the formations - but is it really on the most borderline? Really in Sumy they didn’t create "exclusion zones" across the territory?
    This is nowhere to be found [it is clear that there will be shelling then, but here I can tell a conspiracy fact - thereby showing ours, the Ukrainians will not want to stop]
    1. the_SteelReporter (Alexandr Martynov) April 29 2022 10: 27
      -3
      PS Well, about Strelkov, these are generally krants - a comrade was "kicked out" from the region by their own
      You can no longer write about the reenactor
      1. DobberMann Offline DobberMann
        DobberMann (Victor) April 29 2022 15: 04
        0
        Were Bezler, Purgin, Boroday and a number of others (besides Strelkov) who promoted the idea of ​​creating Novorossiya also "kicked out" of their own from the region?
        For those who are not in the know: at least since July 2014, the North Wind has been in charge of all processes in the Donbass ...
        1. the_SteelReporter (Alexandr Martynov) 1 May 2022 20: 08
          0
          Did they do something right after the main actions?
          they were removed - slowly and gradually [yes, the SBU is like that sometimes]
      2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) April 29 2022 16: 37
        -1
        PS Well, about Strelkov, these are generally krants - a comrade was "kicked out" from the region by their own
        You can no longer write about the reenactor

        What are yours? Since when did Surkov become his own to Strelkov?
        1. the_SteelReporter (Alexandr Martynov) 1 May 2022 20: 10
          0
          Borodai became Surkov? "Stop Drinking"
    2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 29 2022 16: 36
      -1
      Sense that we would come "on bayonets"?

      And right now, we didn’t come on bayonets?

      After all, the Ukrainians were pumped up Already, after all, with propaganda

      And right now, the type is not inflated? In 2014, half of Ukraine flew Russian flags.

      I hate you guardians.
      1. the_SteelReporter (Alexandr Martynov) 1 May 2022 20: 12
        0
        We come - when we are ready
        Steel on all fronts [both energy and others]

  21. Avedi Offline Avedi
    Avedi (Ankh) April 29 2022 11: 21
    +2
    I agree with the author ... to be honest, I don’t understand at all what is happening there ... for example, how does the gas transportation system of Ukraine still work? For two months they have been bombing oil storage facilities, infrastructure, artillery, hailstones, aviation are working, but the pipe is still alive? How can this be?
    1. meandr51 Offline meandr51
      meandr51 (Andrei) April 29 2022 16: 36
      0
      There are things more important than life and death. The pipe is sacred!
  22. Indifferent Online Indifferent
    Indifferent April 29 2022 13: 09
    -3
    A rare article in terms of bias and bias! One would like to say to the author in the words of Vysotsky:

    And a rifle for you, and send you into battle ...!

    And so the tongue without bones. Our officers also need to learn how to fight. This is not Syria! Yes, and they are at war with the Russians (no matter how regrettable it may sound)! That's why it's a long and difficult job! But the West rubs its hands and twists its legs. This is what you need to write about! !
    1. cooper Offline cooper
      cooper (Alexander) April 29 2022 13: 48
      0
      You are a complete layman in the situation.
    2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 29 2022 16: 37
      -1
      I just want to tell the author in the words of Vysotsky: "And the rifle is for you, but send you into battle ...!"

      You and people like you "Guardians" should be sent to battle in the Donbass.
    3. meandr51 Offline meandr51
      meandr51 (Andrei) April 29 2022 16: 39
      0
      Well, yes, as soon as you brand everyone and everything in the headquarters and the government, things will immediately go smoothly! Kerensky did just that in 1917. He also introduced democracy in the army. Orders could be discussed and not executed. That's democracy!
      But for some reason the Germans did not appreciate this and occupied Ukraine.
  23. Pavel57 Offline Pavel57
    Pavel57 (Paul) April 29 2022 13: 28
    0
    It was not possible to solve the issue with Ukraine in a swoop. Choice or war, or shame.
  24. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) April 29 2022 13: 45
    +1
    I have always argued earlier that in 2014 the Russian leadership made a fatal strategic mistake, if not worse... Yes, and now, you don’t understand what’s going on, some kind of circus. To fight like this to fight, with all might, without snot and compromises.
  25. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) April 29 2022 14: 05
    +1
    But we are assured that everything is going according to the plan of our General Staff. We are trying to save more lives of Ukrainians by moving 300 meters a day, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine at this time will continue to bomb Russia, the farther, the more, weapons will be brought to them more powerful. And this is a brilliant plan???
    1. meandr51 Offline meandr51
      meandr51 (Andrei) April 29 2022 16: 30
      0
      If the troops move faster, then the losses will increase many times due to insufficient fire treatment of the fortified areas. Untrained conscripts will have to be thrown into battle. And if you swear, they won’t go anywhere at all! You can't always see everything from the sofa.
      And no one can assure you of anything. You assure yourself. As far as the "plans of the General Staff" are concerned, documents labeled "Special Importance" are usually not published in the press. All that can be published is disinformation of the enemy.
      1. DobberMann Offline DobberMann
        DobberMann (Victor) April 29 2022 18: 32
        0

        Air Command "South" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine received a new S-300 air defense system from partner countries. This was reported on the command's Facebook page. The specified complex is put on combat duty and "is already performing combat missions."
        “Poland has transferred 200 T-72 tanks to Ukraine, which will allow equipping two tank brigades,” Polish Radio reports. In addition to tanks, several dozen infantry fighting vehicles were sent to Ukraine, among other things.
        It is reported that Warsaw handed over 7 billion złoty worth of equipment to Ukraine.
        Among the weapons that Ukraine received from Poland are 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled howitzers and Grad multiple rocket launchers. Poland also provided air-to-air missiles for MIG-29 and Su-27 aircraft.

        (Strana.ua)

        The slow pace of the offensive of the RF Armed Forces is fraught with an increase in the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        Considering the beginning of massive deliveries of aviation, air defense systems and heavy weapons to the Ukrainians, soon the RF Armed Forces will be even more difficult to win and with greater losses than now ...
  26. DobberMann Offline DobberMann
    DobberMann (Victor) April 29 2022 16: 09
    +2
    Having annexed Crimea to Russia, thanks (primarily) to S. Aksyonov (the main organizer of this process), I. Strelkov (one of the main organizers of the defense of the Crimean Isthmus) and the President of the Russian Federation (who fully supported their initiative), the Russian authorities calmed down on this and did not began to support the popular movement in the regions of the South-East of Ukraine to create Novorossiya. Moreover, it began to actively impede this process, disorganizing the holding of popular referendums in these regions. Even the provision of legal rights to the President and the Commander-in-Chief to bring the RF Armed Forces into the territory of Ukraine was not implemented, despite repeated shelling of the territory of the Russian Federation and the resulting civilian casualties.
    The only logical explanation for this can be mercantile
    interests of the Russian oligarchy.
    As a result, we got what we got ...
  27. meandr51 Offline meandr51
    meandr51 (Andrei) April 29 2022 16: 27
    +1
    It doesn't really matter who counted on what. If the Russian Federation had not sent troops to the Donbass, Ukraine would have done it on March 8. And it would be even worse, because it would have to fight on the territory of the Russian Federation. With NATO troops, with a no-fly zone and other gadgets.
  28. Amper Offline Amper
    Amper (Vlad) April 29 2022 22: 23
    -1
    In everything moldy, decayed mediocrity, sycophancy, greed, companionship, flavored everything will be fine, we will succeed, we are the grandchildren of the winners. Hurray, hats are unsheathed! ..... Let's agree? It is sickening to listen to talking heads, against the backdrop of terrible pictures of the realities of war and complete confusion in the minds.
  29. ambler20 Offline ambler20
    ambler20 (INO WAY) April 30 2022 22: 20
    0
    The Russian government regularly demonstrates amazing short-sightedness and hindsight. What is obvious to the majority of sane citizens of the Russian Federation, for her every now and then turns out to be an unfortunate surprise. Either they did not expect that Ukraine would turn out to be incapable of negotiating, and that eight years of waiting for the implementation of Minsk-2 would be used by it to thoroughly prepare for a war with the Donbass and Russia. And the so-called. "Foreign intelligence" of the Russian Federation turned out to be unable to detect signs of such preparation during all this time (now they tell us: "well, they have been building powerful concrete fortifications all this time! What a surprise!"). As, however, she was unable to warn about Azerbaijan's attack on Karabakh, and about a strange attempt at a "coup" in Kazakhstan, and about the well-planned support for Ukraine by NATO countries ... And the freezing of assets? What about information blockade? The list goes on.
    Now it is substituted, leaving the occupied areas of the Kyiv, Chernigov, Sumy regions. Because again "I did not expect provocations from these vile Nazis." He complains that Ukraine is again leading the nose in the negotiations, although it is not even clear what it is going to agree on, announcing the tasks of demilitarization and denazification... Expects that Zelensky will take an active part in this?
    Now it allows shelling Russian territory almost along the entire border perimeter, defending very sluggishly. What, and this "didn't expect"? And when every day they complain to us that NATO weapons are pouring into Ukrainian territory in a thick stream - what is this? Confession of one's own helplessness? Maybe he is waiting for advice from ordinary citizens - what to do now, because again - "didn't expect" ...
    All this looks sad, especially against the background of the ongoing shelling of the Donbass, the deaths of both civilians and our soldiers - now from NATO weapons.
    The Commander-in-Chief, who has announced an ultimatum to the West, who makes formidable statements almost every day, has no right to be afraid of his own feigned courage! This fear, this inconsistency and indecision cost both the country and the people dearly. He now has no other choice but to be worthy of those whom he sent to the NWO, and who seek to fulfill their tasks without sparing their own lives. Otherwise, he will destroy himself and us. History will not forgive him for this.
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  31. Aleks_3 Offline Aleks_3
    Aleks_3 (Alexander Kutlin) 1 May 2022 20: 49
    0
    Yes, something is not all right with this special operation, we dragged on for many years, and finally, when we decided, it turned out that we didn’t take into account a lot. Our border regions have already begun to seriously hammer and they don’t almond like us. And we “everything is going according to plan” , it’s not clear just why, and where our lightning-fast answers are, apparently we are stuck there for a long time.