"Soviet world": which way should Russia and Ukraine go


In the domestic politicians, the press and the blogosphere, questions are constantly raised about what we should do with Ukraine in the event of a military victory and taking its territory under our control. There are options with the accession of its parts to the Russian Federation, with a neutral status or as part of the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus. There really are options, however, first you still need to defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But, perhaps, the main question is on what basis and in what form to try to reintegrate Ukraine? What exactly are we going to build with her participation?


The writing of this article by the author of the lines was prompted by two publications of a colleague on the Reporter. AT one back on January 12 of this year, he wondered if the restoration of the Soviet Union was possible, and he himself defeated this idea, coming to the conclusion that those who are nostalgic for the USSR simply "want freebies." And not so long ago article with the heading “What is the danger of building a “Russian world” in Ukraine”, where a colleague criticized this idea as well. Staying on the sidelines after that did not work out, we will have to throw in our five cents, since our country will really have to choose one of these two concepts.

Yes, exactly what you need. If suddenly someone else has not realized, the Third World War has begun, which the collective West is waging against us. American ICBMs do not fly in our direction just because Russia has its own nuclear arsenal, with which we can respond by putting the aggressor to rest. War is on all fronts: in Ukraine, they are fighting against us with the hands of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard, a propaganda war is being waged in the world media, a trade war is taking place in the form of crippling sanctions against entire sectors of the Russian economics etc.

In the short term, it is in the forces of the RF Armed Forces to win a military victory over the Ukrainian army, taking the territory of the former Square under its control. This can be done before the end of 2022, if you do not celebrate the coward and do not pretend to be “great peacemakers”. But the West's war to destroy Russia will not end there. The Baltic states will burn next, then Moldova, where the local Russophobic authorities are already stubbornly provoking us. Restrictive measures aimed at the economic strangulation of our country will not go anywhere. For Russia, which for decades has been stubbornly addicted to the export of hydrocarbon raw materials, this is a real challenge to its very existence. With a half-empty federal budget, the prospects for preserving territorial integrity may not be as bright as it seems here and now.

There is only one way out - building a real integration project with a powerful self-sufficient and diversified economy, in fact, autarky. But this requires a base in the form of 400, and preferably 500 million wealthy consumers. Yes, these should be precisely solvent consumers, and not some beggars, barely pulling from paycheck to paycheck.

And it cannot be said that an attempt to do something similar was not made. We have the Eurasian Economic Union, which unites Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. It also has observer countries, which include Moldova, Uzbekistan and Cuba. That's just in fact an attempt to build an integration education, as in the European Union, where it would be beneficial for everyone to be, did not work out. As soon as there was a smell of fried food, our Kazakh partners hastily disowned Russia. Timur Suleimenov, First Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration of Kazakhstan, stated verbatim the following:

Of course, Russia would like us to be more on its side. But Kazakhstan respects the territorial integrity of Ukraine. We have not recognized and do not recognize either the situation with Crimea or the situation with Donbass, because the UN does not recognize them. We will implement only those decisions that are taken at the level of the United Nations.

Indeed, Kazakhstan is a member of both the Eurasian Economic Union and the Collective Security Treaty Organization, hence we are members of both economic and military alliances with Russia. But the provisions of the treaties do not apply to this particular case.

One should not expect miracles from Armenia, which has already begun some consultations with the NATO bloc within the framework of participation in the Partnership for Peace Alliance program. Nobody wants to be in the same boat with Russia, which is sentenced to destruction by the collective West. All these so-called allies of ours will hastily jump out of any treaties and agreements that oblige them to something specific, if there is a threat that they themselves will fly from the USA.

In fact, the Eurasian Economic Union and the CSTO are peacetime organizations that exist while everything is relatively calm. Russia will have to cope with all its problems on its own. Or within the framework of other international structures that it can create. And here we turn to the main question - what exactly can we build, what will we have to choose from?

Russian World


And in 2014 in the Donbass, and in 2022, a lot of people are fighting on our side for the so-called Russian world. Why so called? Because there is still no clear legal definition of what it is, and therefore everyone understands it in their own way, putting their own meanings.

According to the author of the lines, the "Russian World" is a kind of abstract concept, invented to sublimate the state ideology that is absent in modern Russia. Most of all, it is annoying that its creator is none other than Vladislav Surkov, the “evil genius” of Novorossiya and one of the main creators of Minsk-1 and Minsk-2, because of which rivers of blood are now flowing in Ukraine. Word to him:

What is the Russian world? This is an idea, I once introduced it into the structure of the state policywhen we changed ideological dates: we canceled the day of celebration of the socialist revolution and introduced the Day of National Unity. In Russia, after all, there was not a single holiday associated with events before the revolution. This day became the day of Russian nationalism in its essence. There was such a task: how to speak about the Empire, about our desire to expand, but at the same time not offend the hearing of the world community.

As you can see, this is a frank admission that the abstract idea of ​​the “Russian World” was invented by an absolutely cynical and unprincipled person with the aim of substituting concepts and manipulating public consciousness. Its name sounds beautiful, no doubt, but because of its abstractness, it is devoid of concrete content. Moreover, if we take this concept as the basis for building an integration project in the post-Soviet space, it is even harmful.

The "Russian World" is objectively the area of ​​three Slavic countries: Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. More than 145 million people live in our country, a little more than 9 million in Belarus, over 41 million people lived in Ukraine before the Maidan, now it’s good if more than half. That is, we will not get any 400-500 million wealthy consumers on our own. Further expansion is needed, but where and how? Why "Russian world", for example, the Kazakhs? Or Armenians? Or Uzbeks? Or Moldovans? Or our Tatars? Or the Chechens, who are now heroically fighting against the Ukrainian Nazis, with their right-wing radical nationalist ideas? Is there some basic contradiction here?

Of course have. The concept of the “Russian World” has the right to exist, but only within the framework of a national empire, where one people is Russian, and its religion is Orthodox, by definition it will be the first among equals. How correct will such a state be and how is it better than the “Ukroreich”, which we are now trying to liquidate with such blood? In the face of confrontation with the West, this is the path to isolation, degradation and decay, which will eventually lead to disintegration.

"Soviet world"


Much more correct and promising is the construction of a new Soviet Union based on the principles of multinationality and secularism. Instead of a substratum in the form of the "Russian World", our country needs a state ideology, a socialist one. In the conditions of the Third World War with the collective West, only the Union, which has built its own socio-economic system completely independent of it, will be able to withstand the marathon distance that lies ahead of us.

And this new supranational "USSR-2" can become a common home for Russians, and Ukrainians, and Kazakhs, and Moldovans, and Belarusians, and Uzbeks, and for all other peoples who are ready to become a single Soviet people. The "Soviet World" is a more rational and fair integration concept than the "Russian World". Its symbol can be the Red Flag, with which that nameless grandmother in Ukraine came out to meet the VES.

We simply have no other way, since all others lead to decay and collapse in the medium or long term.
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  1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 26 2022 14: 57
    +1
    Fully agree with the author. However, socialism is not a goal, but a step towards the goal. The goal is to build a just sustainable society on the entire planet, devoid, in principle, of wars and the possibility of the death of civilization.
    The successes of the USSR, in difficult times for it, were ensured by the integrity of the approach, the unity of ideology and dialectical materialism, in which contradictions were linked into a single structure subordinate to the goal.
    An example of such unity is the principle: if you want peace, prepare for war. Or: nuclear weapons are a guarantee of peace on the planet. Such a scientific view allowed the leadership of the USSR to fearlessly approach the very brink of death and win their victories, as was the case, for example, in 1962.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 27 2022 21: 38
      -2
      Quote: Alexey Davydov
      An example of such unity is the principle: if you want peace, prepare for war. Or: nuclear weapons are a guarantee of peace on the planet.

      Such orwellshenoy pulled. Have you read the 1982 novel?
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 28 2022 21: 54
        0
        What's Orwell got to do with it. Unless - the general "stamp" of the philistine idea of ​​totalitarianism. The idea of ​​communism is infinitely deeper, wider and brighter than this Western novel. She is the path to the exit, and in the novel she is a hopeless dead end for all mankind. Where exactly the West is pulling everyone along.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 29 2022 00: 23
          0
          Your

          If you want peace, prepare for war. Or: nuclear weapons are a guarantee of peace on the planet.

          Reminds me of Orwellian doublethink

          war is peace
          freedom is slavery
          ignorance is power

          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          The idea of ​​communism is infinitely deeper, wider and brighter than this Western novel. She is the path to the exit, and in the novel she is a hopeless dead end for all mankind. Where exactly the West is pulling everyone along.

          But for some reason, totalitarian dictatorships were built under communist slogans.
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) April 29 2022 13: 04
            +2
            Quote: Oleg Rambover
            But for some reason, totalitarian dictatorships were built under communist slogans.

            Oleg Rambover, the whole world is built under communist slogans! laughing
  2. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. April 26 2022 15: 09
    +3
    ...Is it too late to drink Borjomi?
    ... the USSR is a union of ... socialist republics.
    The author sees the resolution of all antagonisms in the replacement of the dead-end oligarchic system in the Russian Federation with a socialist system that has not justified itself historically?
    So you can't untie the Gordian knot!
    ... In addition, the author's fair remark: "No one wants to be in the same boat with Russia, which is sentenced to destruction by the collective West."
    That is: the United States set itself the goal of destroying the Russian Federation in order to take possession of its natural resources.
    Russia did not set itself a similar goal.
    But since the question arose about the survival of one of the two countries, then in practice there can be only one option: David must defeat Goliath!
    ... "And there we will see"!
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 26 2022 15: 36
      +2
      The author sees the resolution of all antagonisms in the replacement of the dead-end oligarchic system in the Russian Federation with a socialist system that has not justified itself historically?

      It was not the system that did not justify itself, but the rotten party nomenclature. We need to draw conclusions.
      Everything is fine with the system, as relevant as ever.

      ... In addition, the author's fair remark: "No one wants to be in the same boat with Russia, which is sentenced to destruction by the collective West."

      This is just one of the reasons why they don't want to be in the same boat with us. The USSR was also sentenced to destruction by the Third Reich, but the entire Soviet people fought shoulder to shoulder and defeated the Nazis. Why do you think?

      That is: the United States set itself the goal of destroying the Russian Federation in order to take possession of its natural resources.

      I don't think this is the main goal.

      Russia did not set itself a similar goal.
      But since the question arose about the survival of one of the two countries, then in practice there can be only one option: David must defeat Goliath!

      I wonder how?

      So you can't untie the Gordian knot!

      That's the only way you untie it.
      1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
        Mikhail L. April 26 2022 16: 04
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        ... "rotten party nomenclature" - the product of a "justified system" ... throughout Europe!
        ... "I guess that's not the main goal."? ... "The turkey also thought, but he got into the soup."
        ... "the entire Soviet people defeated the Nazis." ...Where are the Soviet people now?
        ... "I wonder how?"? ... Sarmatians. ... "That's the only way you'll untie it."!
        1. opportunist Offline opportunist
          opportunist (dim) April 27 2022 04: 40
          +1
          The multinational Soviet people who defeated the Nazis had a state ideology, today there is no ideology
          1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
            Marzhecki (Sergei) April 27 2022 11: 49
            0
            Yes, there is no way without ideology, it was around it that the multinational Soviet people were created. And without it, interethnic strife began.
            1. opportunist Offline opportunist
              opportunist (dim) April 28 2022 00: 13
              0
              Everything in nature has a beginning, middle and end the ideology of pan-Slavism and Orthodoxy was successful in the golden age of Peter the Great and Catherine the Great. However, completely different geopolitical and social conditions operate today. To achieve our current geopolitical goals of bringing Russia closer to the geopolitical level of the Soviet Union with a strong state, economy and global ''expansion'' , We need an ideology that will not only unify our multi-racial state, but also export world revolution. this ideology is only the Soviet ideology and the Soviet state economy. what led all these years the ideology of pan-Slavism to slogans such as Russia for Russians or Ukraine for Ukrainians. The first thing that the Western intelligence services did after the collapse of the Soviet Union was to strengthen the nationalist organizations in the post-Soviet space, then they knew why they were doing it and what results we see today; Unfortunately, the structure of power and the economy of the state must change for this. The Anglo-Saxons use colorful flag and gay and LGBT rights, why don't we raise the red flag of the rights of the Red Army and in general all those who would like to oppose the former colonialists?
    2. Victorio Offline Victorio
      Victorio (Victorio) April 26 2022 16: 49
      0
      Quote: Mikhail L.
      The author sees the resolution of all antagonisms in the replacement of the dead-end oligarchic system in the Russian Federation with historically unjustified socialist?

      maybe yes, maybe not. a short period of time for implementation, mistakes and dictates in the government itself, hot and cold war undermined the course of socialist development. Therefore, we must work now, study institutions in order to correctly combine and choose the necessary steps in building a different, new model of state development.
      1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
        Mikhail L. April 26 2022 17: 08
        -1
        All hope for "institutions"?
        V. Vysotsky:

        Comrades scientists, associate professors with candidates!
        You are tormented with Xs, confused in zeros
        Sit, decompose molecules into atoms
        Forgetting that potatoes are decomposing in the fields
        1. Victorio Offline Victorio
          Victorio (Victorio) April 26 2022 17: 59
          +1
          Quote: Mikhail L.
          All hope for "institutions"?

          all or not all, but specialists, scientists should work. a lot of quality. and then it's up to the decisions - for, against, abstained.
  3. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) April 26 2022 15: 09
    -1
    Quote: Alexey Davydov
    Fully agree with the author. However, socialism is not a goal, but a step towards the goal. The goal is to build a just sustainable society on the entire planet, devoid, in principle, of wars and the possibility of the death of civilization.

    It's called communism.
    I look forward to the sparkling comments of our liberal Pitersky. smile
    1. Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
      Shmurzik (Seymslav) April 26 2022 16: 40
      -3
      Fully agree with the author. However, socialism is not a goal, but a step towards the goal. The goal is to build a just sustainable society on the entire planet, devoid, in principle, of wars and the possibility of the death of civilization.

      Answer:

      It's called communism.

      My answer :
      "No society-community (whether reasonable or not)
      will not do without the "MORLOCKS". No one has canceled the "food" chain - even in utopias there are "cream" - the keepers of knowledge, ways, laws, orders, traditions ...
      1. Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
        Shmurzik (Seymslav) April 26 2022 17: 17
        -2
        In the minus sign I raked, for the previous comment ... - flattered that they noticed !!! It's a pity minuser
        anonymous ... And on the 8-10th and 25-28th in the statements a cross Х put?(((((...Z Have you tried drawing yet? You don’t have to answer ...- well, then after all, "the language and to K ... bring the Kolyma" !!!
    2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 27 2022 01: 55
      +1
      Quote: Sergey Marzhetsky
      It's called communism.

      This word, like a sunken ancient ship, from inactivity has already acquired a shell of parasites, has become detached from its original meaning, and is firmly associated with the common philistine concept of the same name, the main function of which is to be a scarecrow.
      Maybe it makes sense to abandon it altogether, and the original scientific concept itself, and everything that stands behind it, should not be restored, but reconstructed in a new historical reality.
      As Victorio says:

      ... besides, development, according to the minds, occurs in a spiral. if there is a repetition, then a level higher
    3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 27 2022 21: 58
      -2
      Quote: Marzhetsky
      I look forward to the sparkling comments of our liberal Pitersky.

      Yes please.
      You are aware that according to communist theories, the state is inherently one of the forms of exploitation. Accordingly, one of the goals of the communists is the destruction of the state as a current one, as a form of organization of society (in which they coincide with the extreme form of liberalism - libertarianism). Under communism, there should not be any states, including Russian-Russian.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) April 27 2022 23: 03
        +1
        Oleg Rambover, you are lying when you say that the goal of the communists is the destruction of the state. laughing
      2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 28 2022 22: 12
        -1
        Communism does not destroy the state, nor does it make it ubiquitous. He lives it out as unnecessary. Freedom becomes complete for a new person, responsible and positive in his actions. There remains an add-on, but without the coercion function.
        Humanity is faced with a choice:
        perish from their own disunity and antagonisms, or enter the road of the formation of this person and humanity.
        Efremov developed this theme in detail and deeply in his novels.
        The most contrasting difference between today's individual and this model is wild, caveman individualism, manic distrust and fear of his own kind.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 29 2022 00: 14
          -1
          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          Communism does not destroy the state, nor does it make it ubiquitous. He lives it out as unnecessary. Freedom becomes complete for a new person, responsible and positive in his actions. There remains an add-on, but without the coercion function.

          I agree that the goal of communism is not the destruction, but the withering away of the state. The state must first become an instrument of the proletariat (ruling class) to destroy other classes (not necessarily physical). This is socialism. When humanity merges into one class, the state (according to the Marxists, the instrument of the ruling class) will die out as unnecessary. This is communism. But this does not change the essence. Under communism there will be no Russian (Russian) state. It must disappear according to the doctrine of communism. If there is no state, there will be no nation.

          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          Humanity is faced with a choice:
          perish from their own disunity and antagonisms, or enter the road of the formation of this person and humanity.
          ...
          The most contrasting difference between today's individual and this model is wild, caveman individualism, manic distrust and fear of his own kind.

          Some political scientists point out that post-socialist societies (China and Russia) in terms of atomization are far superior to societies that have not been subjected to a socialist experiment.
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) April 29 2022 00: 58
            +1
            Quote: Oleg Rambover
            ... the goal of communism is not the destruction, but the withering away of the state.

            Oleg Rambover, do not deceive people, the withering away of the state is also not a goal. Theorists of communism just reasonably assume that the form of organization of society will change. Community, Society, State... laughing
          2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
            Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 29 2022 08: 20
            -1
            The socialist experiment was followed by the genocide of the whole hurt of the "new man". People were told - either become different - or die. Many died physically or mentally.
            Every family has one. This is how my sister's husband died. Using his example, I will say that this inability to capitalism does not characterize the quality of a person. Rather, it is the inability to fight with their own kind for food.
            Perhaps not the best survived. Probably everywhere was about the same.
            So the atomization of post-socialist society is a consequence of the hecatomb of the new man to the "golden calf" of the West.
            But all of us, the survivors, carry within ourselves the "grains" of this experiment - the grains of the Future.
            This is what the West is now going to destroy "in the bud"
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 29 2022 15: 09
              -2
              Quote: Alexey Davydov
              The socialist experiment was followed by the genocide of the whole hurt of the "new man".

              I am always suspicious of any ideas of creating a superman. For some reason, wherever they tried to create it, all this was accompanied by a bloody bacchanalia.
              I don't know where you saw the genocide hurt the "new man". We are still ruled by people with a party past. All large enterprises of the USSR pulled away their directors with a party crust. All the charms of the 90s were arranged by people from whom they created the "new man" from childhood. It is your new person who has disappeared into the fog of perestroika like smoke, like a phantom. This gives a very strong reason to doubt whether he was.

              Quote: Alexey Davydov
              Every family has one. This is how my sister's husband died. Using his example, I will say that this inability to capitalism does not characterize the quality of a person. Rather, it is the inability to fight with their own kind for food.

              Have you been abroad? There is no such thing. Yes, success accompanies a few, but was it different in the socialist USSR? If you work, you are able to earn a decent living.

              Quote: Alexey Davydov
              Perhaps not the best survived. Probably everywhere was about the same.
              So the atomization of post-socialist society is a consequence of the hecatomb of the new man to the "golden calf" of the West.

              All this is poetic, but I did not notice any sacrifices of the new man. The propagandists scraped off the plaque from the Soviet man, and he turned out to be an ordinary person. Slightly traumatized (atomization) by a 70 year experiment. But time heals.
              The atomization of the post-socialist society is meant in comparison with the Western one. There is no such thing.

              Quote: Alexey Davydov
              But all of us, the survivors, carry within ourselves the "grains" of this experiment - the grains of the Future.
              This is what the West is now going to destroy "in the bud"

              I am sure the West (whatever they mean by this) deeply does not care about our future. Do you really see these grains around you? Curious what they mean.
  4. Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
    Shmurzik (Seymslav) April 26 2022 15: 17
    -2
    If suddenly someone else has not realized, the Third World War has begun, which the collective West is waging against us.

    Sorry, my dear, but there was an invasion of Ukraine ...- a banal INTER-STATE CONFLICT !!!
    SORRY, but I'm embarrassed to ask - And who brewed all this mess with blood?
    You can call it SVO, Fighting, War, Denatsikation, and so on. and so on ... - just a flight of my imagination will give out a couple of dozen "names" of this action! But to call it "THIRD WORLD" ??? - You, I don’t even know who you are flattering ...
    1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
      Mikhail L. April 26 2022 15: 25
      +1
      Call it a pot, just don't put it in the oven

      In fact: the Third World War has begun, only it has not yet passed into ... the nuclear phase!
      1. Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
        Shmurzik (Seymslav) April 26 2022 16: 27
        -2
        In fact: the Third World War has begun, only it has not yet passed into ... the nuclear phase!

        38 out of 59 states of the world participated in the First World War ...
        In World War II, if memory serves, there were 62 countries out of about 80 ... But, in both cases, the world was divided into two warring camps !!!!
        Today, I see a local conflict ... The same as in Karabakh, as in Jamu and Kashmir ...
        People, of course, also steals the FIFTH WORLD WORLD, but sensible people should not be considered fools ...
        1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
          Mikhail L. April 26 2022 16: 37
          +4
          "Locally": today in Germany, at the initiative of the United States, the defense ministers of more than 40 (!) States gathered, with ... an anti-Russian agenda. Few?
          ..."I see"? ...Subjective assessment is worth nothing!
          1. Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
            Shmurzik (Seymslav) April 26 2022 17: 04
            -1
            Locally": today in Germany, at the initiative of the United States, the defense ministers of more than 40 (!) States gathered, with ... an anti-Russian agenda.Few?
            ..."I see"?

            Forty sitting (not at war) - from more than 200 tons of states in the world? ... - few ... This is archimal !!! ... all the more so since there is no war, as such, even between Russia and Ukraine !!!!!!!
            Deputy Commander of the Central Military District (CVO), Major General Rustam Minnekaev:

            Control over the south of Ukraine is another way to Transnistria, where there are also facts of oppression of the Russian-speaking population. Apparently, we are now at war with the whole world, as it was during the Great Patriotic War, the whole of Europe, the whole world was against us. And now it’s the same, they never liked Russia.”

            A brilliant (General) pearl ... That's what I didn't know, I didn't know ... - it turns out Russia
            !!!Against the whole world!!! led the Great Patriotic War alone ... ((((((
            1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
              Mikhail L. April 26 2022 17: 20
              +1
              Doesn't it seem that I'm not a major general, and claims are not addressed?
              The participants in the world wars were not drawn into confrontations at once.
              At the present time: it is possible that the PRC will hit Taiwan, and the DPRK will "bite" its neighbors. And there, you see, others will join.
              Not yet evening!
              1. Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
                Shmurzik (Seymslav) April 26 2022 17: 39
                -1
                Doesn't it seem that I'm not a major general, and claims are not addressed?

                Duc and I, as it were, are nothing hesitant ... and I don’t pretend to be the last resort, but I also think I have the right- "After all, we are not trembling creatures" ...

                Currently: It is possible that China will strike Taiwan

                And that the Russian Federation already does not recognize Taiwan as part of the PRC ??? He has every right to hit!

                and North Korea will "bite" its neighbors.

                Is this in the light of Russian-Ukrainian relations or what????
                1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
                  Mikhail L. April 26 2022 17: 58
                  0
                  V. Gaft in the film "Garage": "My gold, something, but you have the right." ;-(
    2. Alexander Ra Offline Alexander Ra
      Alexander Ra (Alexander) April 26 2022 17: 49
      +2
      Quote: Shmurzik
      invasion of Ukraine ...- banal INTERGOVERNMENTAL CONFLICT !!!
      SORRY, but I'm embarrassed to ask - And who brewed all this mess with blood? (Starting from 2014 and today's 2022)

      Short memory? The Belovezhskaya conspiracy of 1991 is forgotten = separatism. Bucha was boiled in the 19th and 20th centuries, in 2014 it flared up again, in the 22nd they began to extinguish it. The flight of your imagination does not see a total confrontation in Ukraine? In Ukraine, the united West forbids the Russians to defend themselves - the essence of the sanctions.
      1. Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
        Shmurzik (Seymslav) April 26 2022 20: 20
        0
        The Belovezhskaya conspiracy of 1991 is forgotten = separatism.

        Is this the one when they thought for three and after which Russia declared its independence? ... I forgot from what?
  5. Alexander Ra Offline Alexander Ra
    Alexander Ra (Alexander) April 26 2022 15: 17
    +2
    For a long time, this is the most important topic - where and how to go. But “from above” there is no encouragement in any way to publicly discuss the prospect. Why?
    "Russian World" - for Russians ..? why? "Eskimo world", "Italian world"...
    The Soviet system: its most important feature is organicity, albeit artificial, with the absence of "predators of overwhelming power" and social parasites. These features must be revisited.
    1. Victorio Offline Victorio
      Victorio (Victorio) April 26 2022 18: 04
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Ra
      "Russian World" - for Russians ..?

      Russian as a historical and unifying factor. a world based on a common history, customs, laws, goals. the Russian world is also an option.
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 26 2022 18: 37
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        I think that the Soviet one is closer to the truth.
        It is not the nation that should unite nations, but above the national principle, common to all people - their understanding of truth, justice, and a brighter future. This is the basis in order to move towards building a new just world community.
        Councils are a fundamental principle of taking into account the interests of all
        1. Victorio Offline Victorio
          Victorio (Victorio) April 26 2022 18: 47
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          Quote: Alexey Davydov
          I think that the Soviet one is closer to the truth.

          the truth is yet to be found. moreover, development, according to the minds, occurs in a spiral. if there is a repetition, then a level higher.
  6. hlp5118 Offline hlp5118
    hlp5118 (hlp) April 26 2022 18: 37
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    Thanks to Boris Nikolaevich, who thoughtlessly destroyed the USSR and launched the flywheel of transforming the "fraternal" republics into hostile ones, in order to achieve goals that the United States does not hide. The Yeltsin Center condemned the NWO, parasitizing and undermining our foundations. And apparently he has high patrons, until he was closed yet.
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  8. Shirokoborodov Offline Shirokoborodov
    Shirokoborodov (Anatoly) April 27 2022 14: 07
    +1
    Dear, dear Sergey!

    I never smashed the idea of ​​restoring the USSR, I only showed that the desire to restore the USSR is so far only sentimental nostalgia than a political program. But it's not evening yet, right?

    I completely agree with your conclusions, I only want to add on my own behalf that the stumbling block is not the socialist ideology, but the socialist economy. There are simply no examples of "integration" of peoples on the basis of a market capitalist economy, where the big and strong always absorb the small and weak.

    Now our society is slowly but moving towards realizing the fundamental advantages of a strong state and a strong public sector without owners and proprietors. The future, one way or another, belongs to the consolidation and cooperation of all efforts, all wealth and all resources in the hands of the people. And the experience of the USSR, especially before 1953, is invaluable in this matter, as, by the way, is the experience of today's PRC. I had a series of articles on the Chinese economy, it would be interesting to know your opinion. Links are here https://t.me/shirokoborodov/2
  9. kalita Offline kalita
    kalita (Alexander) April 27 2022 15: 13
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    We will teach children in Ukraine according to Russian textbooks, and we will also update the textbooks according to events. Hitler is a fascist and an enemy, and Stalin is a man who won the war against the Nazis. Many will leave for Europe, and there they are dear, and we will re-educate the rest in the spirit of a socialist society.
  10. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 27 2022 21: 35
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    There is only one way out - building a real integration project with a powerful self-sufficient and diversified economy, in fact, an authorship.

    As far as I know, no one in history has managed to build a successful authorship. Especially in the modern world. Where does the author have confidence that the Russian Federation will be able to?

    But this requires a base in the form of 400, and preferably 500 million wealthy consumers. Yes, these should be precisely solvent consumers, and not some beggars, barely pulling from paycheck to paycheck.

    It's completely fantasy. Only North Korea will succeed. By the way, a good example of the difference between an open state, South Korea, and a closed, North.

    In the conditions of the Third World War with the collective West, only the Union, which has built its own socio-economic system completely independent of it, will be able to withstand the marathon distance that lies ahead of us.

    The Soviet Union could not.

    And this new supranational "USSR-2" can become a common home for Russians, and Ukrainians, and Kazakhs, and Moldovans, and Belarusians, and Uzbeks, and for all other peoples who are ready to become a single Soviet people. The "Soviet World" is a more rational and fair integration concept than the "Russian World".

    Judging by the intangible signs, the Ukrainians are not particularly eager. I'm not sure that other republics of the former USSR share the author's optimism. And even more so it is doubtful about far abroad countries. So 400, and even more so 500 million "wealthy consumers" are not recruited. Although I know where to get 500 million wealthy consumers and even more. If we look to the east, we will see a thousand-year-old Chinese empire there (by the way, under a red flag), I am sure the Chinese red emperor will accept the Russian Federation with open arms into his fourth circle (that is, vassals). Here's the real plan.

    We simply have no other path, since all others lead to decay and collapse in the medium or long term. We simply have no other path, since all others lead to decay and collapse in the medium or long term.

    The Soviet project also collapsed. Do you want to repeat?
  11. Rustem Offline Rustem
    Rustem (Rustem) April 28 2022 10: 41
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    Calculations of a self-sufficient economy based on half a billion middle-class consumers are derived in Western society, poor in raw materials and rich in the growth of meeting the needs of the first or first natural order by stimulating the growth of the credit mass of money. An economy based on cheap raw materials can be self-sufficient and with a smaller population of the union, especially if it is export-oriented not to food raw materials, but to ready-made food products. The demand for them will always be in food-deficient countries and does not depend on their overproduction. This is another model of self-sufficiency.

    As for the union of states. Of course, under the USSR, separatism was caused, among other things, by the distribution of donor resources in favor of subsidies and not seeing how these costs would pay off. After the collapse of the USSR, having sipped problems and learned self-financing in investment projects, one can carefully try again - from simple to complex interpenetrating economic ties. Since the time of Peter I, Russia has overcome the resistance of the Anglo-Saxons in access to cheap international maritime communications with blood. Under the USSR, all ports of the Ukrainian SSR in the Black Sea-Azov basin worked for the entire Union in terms of exports and imports. Now they are idle in the aggregate, but they were designed for completely different directions and flows. Russia and the EAEU, which stands behind it, are sorely lacking them to start selling high value-added products around the world. For example, flour and flour confectionery instead of wheat from Ukraine and durum wheat from Kazakhstan. for countries that import the latter for their exports of the above marginal products. Or furniture and finishing wooden moldings from Belarus and Russia, or clothes and fabrics based on polyester thread from Belarus and Uzbekistan. There are many examples of such. All these countries suffer because of their tightness and limited access to maritime trade routes. For Russia, this tightness is determined not by the lack of capacity of Russian seaports, but by the low capacity of access railways and roads to them due to geographical restrictions, especially in the direction of the Black Sea-Azov basin.

    And in the text - about the patriotic spirit of the Chechens, defending Russian interests in the military theater of operations. First, they are paid more than our contractors. Secondly, the militant specialization and attitude towards death among this people gave a historical head start to this people to give their contribution for the subsidization of this region of the Russian Federation.
  12. Igor Viktorovich Berdin April 28 2022 13: 27
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    It is difficult to say what to call the common state. All names have their pluses and minuses. There is no longer socialism. And the one that was scares everyone. In the Russian Empire, both the Russian and the Empire can scare. The most neutral name is the Eurasian Union (EAU). And Ukraine needs to be divided. Give Galicia to Poland, let them get along with Bandera. Transcarpathia to Hungary. Sev.Bukovina to Romania. Novorossiya to join Russia as a subject of the Federation. Little Russia to accept into the Union with Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan and further down the list. So we will gain 230-240 million ... We will be attractive, you see, Mongolia, Serbia, Iran will catch up ....