Russia can defeat Ukraine and its Western curators before the end of 2022

April 19 2022 54

According to the statement of President Zelensky, the “battle for Donbass” has begun. It would be more correct to call it the "Great Battle", since almost a quarter of a million military personnel from both sides will meet in a pitched battle, which is the largest battle since the end of World War II. Of course, we are betting on our guys, but a military victory in the Donbas does not automatically mean the defeat of Ukraine. When and how can the Russian special operation realistically end?

There are very different opinions about the timing of the end of the SVO. In Kyiv, they are ready to fight with Moscow right up to 2035. Characters like Medinsky, Abramovich and Peskov dream of completing the special operation as soon as possible, and preferably by signing some kind of peace agreement with Ukraine. Brussels wants to fight against Russia to the bitter end or to the last Ukrainian. But the most realistic timeline, in the personal opinion of the author of the lines, was called by the head of the US State Department, Anthony Blinken, who said that the hostilities in Nezalezhnaya would last until the end of 2022. What gives grounds for believing so?

On the battlefields

As reported, the People's Militia of the LPR liberated the village of Kremennaya, which is the first step towards covering the 10-strong Ukrainian grouping concentrated in the Rubizhne-Severodonetsk-Lysichansk triangle. There are powerful artillery and air strikes against the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard in the area of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. Ukrainian trenches and dugouts are being worked hard along the line of contact along the outskirts of Donetsk, Gorlovka, Makeevka and Maryinka.

The general idea is clear: to take the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into one huge “cauldron”, cut it into several segments and then either destroy them or force them to surrender. Everything is so obvious that the Ukrainian General Staff, or rather, its NATO advisers, have concentrated a second grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Dnepropetrovsk and Pavlograd, which should be able to strike at the rear of Russian troops trying to complete the encirclement. Whether they succeed or not is unknown. On the side of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - dominance in the air, which allows you to destroy columns of armored vehicles on the march, as well as a shorter supply arm. On the other hand, the Armed Forces of Ukraine rely on fortified areas created in cities and promptly receive all intelligence from Western curators from the NATO bloc.

In general, it will obviously not work quickly and simply, but victory will be ours. The question is, what's next?

Judging by a series of statements by representatives of the domestic "party of peacekeepers", they would not mind being content with a tit in their hands: liberate the Donbass, get Kyiv to recognize the independence of the DPR and LPR, Crimea - Russian, as well as a formal ban on the activities of Nazi organizations in Ukraine and the signing of some there are agreements on non-bloc status. If this scenario comes true and Minsk-3 is signed, then in a very short period of time the war will resume and will be even more terrible than now. Meanwhile, the pie in the sky is closer than it seems, and the war with the West for Ukraine and the reformatting of the world order may end in Russia's victory very soon, literally by the end of 2022.

How can we win this war

For an intelligible answer to this question, one must be aware that Russia is at war not with Ukraine, but with the collective West, where the "globalists" in the person of the US Democratic Party came to power, who again relied on the Nazis in Europe in order to achieve revenge for the defeat in World War II. Our country can achieve victory in the “hot” part of this World War III literally before the end of this year by hanging the Russian tricolor over Kyiv, and after that a new iteration of the cold one will begin.

From a military point of view, the special operation should be divided into three stages. At the first, the most difficult, it will be necessary to defeat the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in order to deprive Kyiv of its most combat-ready forces. After that, it will be necessary to occupy the entire Left Bank, blocking and subsequently forcing the largest cities - Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk and others - to surrender. At the second stage, the released troops will have to cut off Central Ukraine from the Black Sea, blocking and forcing the surrender of Nikolaev and Odessa. At the third and final stage, an operation will be needed in Western Ukraine in order to stop the supply of weapons and ammunition to the Kiev regime from the countries of the NATO bloc. We have covered all of this in detail earlier. article entitled "Checkmate in three moves: How to achieve victory over Ukraine".

On this, in fact, the military part ends and enters into action. economic. Square today is already a complete bankrupt. Almost no industry works in the country, there is no fuel and fuels and lubricants, gas is super-expensive, the sowing campaign is not expected. Debts to the IMF must be paid. The war devours the already deficit budget. While Ukrainian jingoists are waiting for military victories and demanding a retaliatory campaign against Moscow, President Zelensky will amuse understanding people with demands to provide Kiev with $50 billion in financial assistance.

There will be none, this help. Only foreign weapons and ammunition so that Ukrainians can kill more Russian soldiers. So far, Ukraine still somehow exists by inertia, largely due to the fact that millions of its citizens have fled abroad, reducing the burden on the dilapidated socio-economic infrastructure. If the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation take control of at least the Left Bank and the south, by winter the part of Ukraine remaining near Kyiv will face a complete collapse. If Western Ukraine is cut off, that's all, kaput. There can no longer be talk of any systemic war against Russia.

Meanwhile, around the same time, big problems may come to the instigators of this bloody massacre. In November 2022, elections to the US House of Representatives are to be held, where nothing good shines for the Democratic Party. Given how quickly and unexpectedly the standard of living of the average American has dipped, it is likely that the Republican Party will take control of both houses of the US Parliament. Of course, these are not friends or allies to us, but after the coup d'état carried out in 2020 by the Sleepy Joe team, the Republicans are irreconcilable enemies of the Democrats. It is also very possible that they will follow the path of impeaching President Biden, whose senile insanity can no longer be hidden.

In other words, at the end of autumn 2022, the main customers of the Maidan of 2014 and the war of 2022, the American Democrats, may lose power. Republicans, on the other hand, are supporters of the concept of isolationism, and Ukraine is not very interesting to them.

Similar processes can take place in the European Union. Already now, the ratings of the freshly baked German Chancellor Scholz have noticeably sagged. But what will happen when, because of the policy prices will rise even more by winter, enterprises will close and ordinary Germans will start to lose their jobs? What will happen if Russia by then holds a public tribunal of Ukrainian war criminals, and the German burghers finally find out that they are suffering because Olaf Scholz directly supports the Nazi regime in Kyiv with the supply of weapons and the imposition of anti-Russian sanctions? In the XNUMXst century, you can't hide this.

It turns out that the real deadline for completing the special operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine is autumn-winter 2022. And today Russia has everything to destroy the Russophobic Kyiv regime and to defeat those who ordered all those numerous crimes that occurred after the Maidan in 2014. In this regard, the activity of the "Party of Peacekeepers", which clearly do not want to allow our country to achieve a decisive victory over Ukrainian Nazism and its Western curators, causes concern.

Sergey Marzhetsky

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Bakht

+10

April 19 2022 11: 28

In this regard, the activity of the "Party of Peacekeepers", which clearly do not want to allow our country to achieve a decisive victory over Ukrainian Nazism and its Western curators, causes concern.

Simultaneously with the denazification of Ukraine, the need for the liberalization of Russia is becoming increasingly clear. Without this, victory cannot be achieved.
1. passing by
  
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  April 19 2022 11: 32
  
  the party of "peacemakers" includes not only liberals, but also those who have relatives from crests.
2. Oleg Rambover
  
  -3
  
  April 19 2022 19: 59
  
  Quote: Bakht
  the need for Russia's liberalization is becoming ever clearer.
  
  How do you propose to carry it out?
  What to do with the main liberal?
  https://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/01/2014/570416189a794761c0ce5bf4?
  1. Bakht
    
    +3
    
    April 19 2022 20: 57
    
    Aren't you tired of posting links from 2014? It's been 8 years. An entire era.
    It's closer to now. 2019 year.
    "Liberalism has become obsolete" V. Putin
    1. Oleg Rambover
      
      -4
      
      April 19 2022 21: 26
      
      Quote: Bakht
      "Liberalism has become obsolete" V. Putin
      
      Well, the GDP said nonsense, with whom it does not happen.
      
      No, not tired. It's cool. That is, Vladimir Vladimirovich was a faithful communist, then he became a liberal, now he has become .... who has he become now? What is the third political theory? What our president is not permanent.
      
      So how do you propose to carry out the liberalization of Russia? Liberal ideas are spelled out in the constitution. As a matter of fact, the very idea of a constitution (a law limiting power) is liberal through and through. Elections, the Duma, the Federation Council, the Constitutional Court are all perniciously influenced by liberal ideas. What to do with them?
      
      Have you carried out liberalization in Azerbaijan?
      1. Bakht
        
        +1
        
        April 19 2022 21: 32
        
        No, not tired
        
        Are you living in the past? That's noticeable.
        What does Azerbaijan have to do with it? We never had liberalism.
        The constitution has nothing to do with it. Again a finger to the sky. Putin just said what is actually there. "Bullshit", as always, are some personalities on this site.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -4
        
        April 19 2022 22: 44
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Are you living in the past? That's noticeable.
        
        Nope, just the future. This is our past president.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        What does Azerbaijan have to do with it? We never had liberalism.
        
        In Russia too. You have an imitation of liberal democracy, this is the first step.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        The constitution has nothing to do with it.
        
        You would inquire about the subject before arguing. Liberals were first called liberals in 1812. So called the authors of the Spanish Constitution of 1812, opponents of absolutism.
        The idea of limiting power by law was put forward by John Locke, the father of the founder of liberalism. Based on his ideas, the world's first American constitution was written.
        
        Bakht
        
        +3
        
        April 19 2022 22: 53
        
        You should ask about the subject before arguing ....
        They would drive the words "crisis of liberalism" into a search engine and read it. In fact, the ideas of liberalism have come from the time of the Roman Republic. Titus Livy also wrote about the rights of the plebeians and the struggle against the patricians. And the word itself has a Latin root. But let's not go back in time.
        In the search engine you will find a lot of interesting things. Let's say this article
        The crisis of liberalism in the assessments of its adherents
        I hope the words "crisis" and "adept" do not need to be translated?
        
        https://globalaffairs.ru/articles/krizis-liberalizma-v-oczenkah-ego-adeptov-2/
        
        All authors talk about the same thing, give similar arguments and counterarguments, which we tried to show, but still everyone understands the liberal world order in their own way. Everyone agrees that he is in deep crisis..
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -2
        
        April 21 2022 12: 24
        
        Quote: Bakht
        You should ask about the subject before arguing ....
        
        Somehow you are pulling ... Are there any more questions about the constitution? Do you agree that this is a liberal notion?
        
        Quote: Bakht
        They would drive the words "crisis of liberalism" into a search engine and read it.
        In the search engine you will find a lot of interesting things. Let's say this article
        The crisis of liberalism in the assessments of its adherents
        I hope the words "crisis" and "adept" do not need to be translated?
        https://globalaffairs.ru/articles/krizis-liberalizma-v-oczenkah-ego-adeptov-2/
        
        With the same success, you can drive a crisis of communist ideology, or even collapse. I hope the word "collapse" does not need to be translated? So what?
        https://inosmi.ru/20220327/frensis-fukuyama-253558864.html
        Here is an adept from adepts, something about the crisis is not particularly spread.
        And this "Russia in global politics" of yours is another source. What they want to hear in the Kremlin, they print.
        Yes, apparently now there is a crisis of liberalism, but it is not the first and, God forbid, not the last. Most likely it is associated with the fourth technological revolution (like most of the previous ones), but it cannot be compared with the crisis of liberalism in the first half of the XNUMXth century.
        You have not answered how you propose to carry out the liberalization of Russia.
        
        Bakht
        
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        April 21 2022 12: 48
        
        I have no questions for you for a long time. How to carry out liberalization? This is clear even to a child. But not to you. There should be no liberal economic policy ideologues in the Government. As for the Constitution, everything is also clear. What was written under the dictation of Western curators cannot be relevant in the current conditions. The constitution (any) is often rewritten. This one will also be rewritten.
        And now about your thesis about the liberal structure of society. Are these your words?
        
        The main postulates of liberalism:
        - human rights from birth to life, honor and dignity, freedom and property, as well as to equality before the law;
        - separation of powers;
        - civil society, where the state does not interfere in the private life of citizens and in economic relations between subjects of law; self-regulating markets, including labor markets;
        - equality extending to all spheres of society.
        
        Point one. Not performed in the West. Especially in Ukraine.
        Point two. Not performed in the West. Especially in Ukraine
        Point three. Absolutely not performed in the West. Especially in Ukraine
        Point four. Not performed in the West. Especially in Ukraine.
        Point five. Not performed in the West. Especially in Ukraine.
        
        What else is left of liberalism? In the West, there is discrimination based on nationality. That is, all the signs of Nazism.
        
        Rights and private property are not respected. There is no separation of powers. The state interferes in economic relations and violates any agreements. There is no equality at all.
        
        Liberalism is dead. If you haven't seen it yet, I can't help.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -1
        
        April 23 2022 16: 33
        
        Is the idea of a constitution a product of liberalism?
        
        Quote: Bakht
        This is clear even to a child. But not to you. There should be no liberal economic policy ideologues in the Government.
        
        This is clear even to a child. But not to you. There are no other significant economists in the Russian Federation, except for liberal ones. Not even in China. And with ideologists (any) in Russia is generally bad. The principled licker Surkov and the fascist Dugin come to mind.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        As for the Constitution, everything is also clear. What was written under the dictation of Western curators cannot be relevant in the current conditions. The constitution (any) is often rewritten. This one will also be rewritten.
        
        Are you suggesting that human rights be abandoned? What do you not like about the current one?
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Point one. Not performed in the West. Especially in Ukraine.
        Point two. Not performed in the West. Especially in Ukraine
        Point three. Absolutely not performed in the West. Especially in Ukraine
        Point four. Not performed in the West. Especially in Ukraine.
        Point five. Not performed in the West. Especially in Ukraine.
        
        Once again compare the countries of the West now and 60 years ago.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        What else is left of liberalism? In the West, there is discrimination based on nationality. That is, all the signs of Nazism.
        
        It seems you do not know the signs of National Socialism. Let's bombard an example of state politics of ethnic discrimination in liberal democracies today.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Rights and private property are not respected. There is no separation of powers. The state interferes in economic relations and violates any agreements. There is no equality at all.
        
        Did you build socialism there?
        
        Are these bottles a sign of the death of liberalism?
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -1
        
        April 23 2022 17: 16
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Liberalism is dead. If you haven't seen it yet, I can't help.
        
        You will not argue that fascism is dead? There are no states whose ideology would be fascism, at least openly. Wherever he has been, he has been swept away, either militarily or through elections. Most of these countries have become liberal democracies. The main sign of the collapse of fascism, he disappeared from big politics.
        Now communism. Many believe that he died (clearly not you). China was the first to move away from the dogmas of communist ideology, transferring its economy to a market (liberal) track, that is, undermining the basis of this theory in its own country. Then the USSR and the countries of the socialist camp fell down. Most of them have moved to the liberal camp, others imitate liberal democracies with varying degrees of success. The main sign of the collapse of communism was the rejection of this ideology by most countries that professed it before.
        
        Now liberalism. You say he is dead. What countries have abandoned it and what ideologies have become dominant in these countries? The fact that Russian citizens are deprived of a second passport in Lithuania for supporting the NVO in Ukraine does not look like a sign of the collapse of liberalism.
        
        I would be grateful if you answered this fundamental question, and did not go down into the jungle "and they lynch blacks with them." The world is not perfect, but over the past centuries it has become noticeably better driven by the ideas of liberalism, in my opinion it is impossible to deny.
        
        Trump's victory in the elections, La Pen's big result in France, the president of Hungary, these are real signs of the crisis of liberalism. These politicians are anti-liberal. But it is too early to talk about the collapse of liberalism. Rumors of his death are greatly exaggerated. And they buried him more than once, back in the XNUMXth century.
        
        isofat
        
        0
        
        April 24 2022 23: 10
        
        Oleg Rambover, tell us how you and your like-minded people made our world a better place when the communists stopped interfering with you.
        
        GIS
        
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        April 27 2022 10: 39
        
        I support. Everything is said correctly on the points.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -5
        
        April 19 2022 22: 47
        
        The main postulates of liberalism:
        - human rights from birth to life, honor and dignity, freedom and property, as well as to equality before the law;
        - separation of powers;
        - civil society, where the state does not interfere in the private life of citizens and in economic relations between subjects of law; self-regulating markets, including labor markets;
        - equality extending to all spheres of society.
        
        Constitution of the Russian Federation:
        
        Article 17
        1. In the Russian Federation, human and civil rights and freedoms are recognized and guaranteed in accordance with generally accepted principles and norms of international law and in accordance with this Constitution.
        2. Fundamental human rights and freedoms are inalienable and belong to everyone from birth.
        3. The exercise of the rights and freedoms of a person and citizen must not violate the rights and freedoms of others.
        Article 19
        1. All are equal before the law and the court.
        Article 20
        1. Everyone has the right to life.
        Article 21
        1. The dignity of the individual is protected by the state. Nothing can be the basis for its derogation.
        Article 22
        1. Everyone has the right to liberty and security of person.
        Article 23
        1. Everyone has the right to inviolability of private life, personal and family secrets, protection of his honor and good name.
        Article 25
        The home is inviolable. No one has the right to enter a dwelling against the will of the persons living in it, except in cases established by federal law, or on the basis of a court decision.
        Article 28
        Everyone is guaranteed freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, including the right to individually or jointly with others profess any religion or not to profess any, freely choose, have and disseminate religious and other beliefs and act in accordance with them.
        Article 29 (Especially for you)
        1. Everyone is guaranteed freedom of thought and speech.
        2. Propaganda or agitation that incite social, racial, national or religious hatred and enmity is not allowed. Propagation of social, racial, national, religious or linguistic superiority is prohibited.
        3. No one can be forced to express or reject their opinions and beliefs.
        4. Everyone has the right to freely seek, receive, transmit, produce and disseminate information in any lawful way. The list of information constituting a state secret is determined by federal law.
        5. Freedom of the media is guaranteed. Censorship is prohibited.
        
        And so on, read at your leisure.
        As you can see, this section of the Russian constitution is a reprint of liberal postulates.
        
        Bakht
        
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        April 19 2022 22: 57
        
        And what will I find there? You read the Soviet Constitution. All the same. Or any Western. What is declared there is not fulfilled. This is the crisis. Liberalism is divided into right and wrong. For example, in Ukraine, at least half of the citizens were banned from using their native language. In the West, the inviolability of private property has been abolished.
        Here is the crisis of liberalism. And his death is now.
        No need to quote. Sometimes you have to look out the window.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
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        April 21 2022 13: 03
        
        Quote: Bakht
        And what will I find there? You read the Soviet Constitution. All the same.
        
        Well, what did you want? Libertarians and communists are siblings, children of the Enlightenment. The fundamental difference between them is only the relation to the form of ownership of the means of production.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        What is declared there is not fulfilled. This is the crisis. Liberalism is divided into right and wrong
        
        Are you talking about the USSR? It is yes, I agree. And in the Russian Federation, this is not very good. You are overly pessimistic. Now it is performed much better than before.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        For example, in Ukraine, at least half of the citizens were banned from using their native language.
        
        It seems not to everyone, Arestovich is broadcasting in Russian every day.
        It cannot be said that Ukraine is the ideal of a liberal democracy.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Here is the crisis of liberalism. And his death is now.
        
        So what is going to replace liberalism? Wildness, right?
        
        Let me give you one more quote:
        
        The West is disappearing, everything is collapsing, everything is perishing in this general inflammation. The Europe of Charlemagne and the Europe of the treatises of 1815, the Roman papacy and all the Western kingdoms, Catholicism and Protestantism, faith long lost and reason reduced to meaninglessness, order no longer conceivable, freedom no longer possible, and above all these ruins, she herself created, civilization killing herself with her own hands...
        
        Tyutchev "Russia and Revolution" 1848
        You are just like Tyutchev.
        
        Bakht
        
        +3
        
        April 21 2022 13: 10
        
        I cite Ukraine as an example, as a concentrated evil. Liberal ideas were buried by the West itself. And the principles of liberalism are violated, mainly in the EU countries.
        
        I have long refused to argue with you. You won't be able to convince. This I know. But I also consider the liquidation of the liberal wing in Russia a necessary condition for victory. With what I also began comments under this article.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
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        April 21 2022 16: 30
        
        Quote: Bakht
        I cite Ukraine as an example, as a concentrated evil.
        
        You know, in many countries they are sure that evil is a little further north.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        I have long refused to argue with you. You won't be able to convince. This I know.
        
        Of course, it is difficult for you to convince me, you simply believe in your beliefs, but I need arguments of reason. And don't answer uncomfortable questions. One can only believe that liberalism is dead.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        But I also consider the liquidation of the liberal wing in Russia a necessary condition for victory.
        
        Probably you should be pleased with today's approval of the head of the Central Bank by the State Duma. The problem is that there are no others in the economic bloc. In fact, there are no other economists other than liberal ones at the disposal of the government. Not to appoint freaks like Glazyev and Khazin. What do you understand by liquidation?
        
        Bakht
        
        +4
        
        April 21 2022 16: 48
        
        1. In many countries they are greatly mistaken.
        2. I don't just believe, I argue. You just don't want to hear them.
        3. The appointment of Nabiulina and other liberal ministers does not please me at all.
        There are other economists. What makes you think that Glazyev and Khazin are freaks - you know better. I think that in economics they understand a little more than you or me. And even we both put together.
        
        Haven't I given enough reasons not to leave a stone unturned from your postulates about a liberal system. Do you still believe in your dogmas, after the West simply spit on its own laws and violated all signed agreements? And on their own liberal values.
        Here, in the quite liberal Baltic states, they passed a law that they would be deprived of citizenship for supporting Russia. Would you like to comment on this in terms of liberal freedoms and human rights?
        Or, for my beliefs (based on Orientalist research) about the "Armenian genocide" I face criminal prosecution in France.
        And such examples that the liberal world order protects only the countries of the "golden billion" wagon and a small cart.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -3
        
        April 22 2022 10: 31
        
        Quote: Bakht
        1. In many countries they are greatly mistaken.
        
        I think History will judge. And it seems to me that it will not be long to judge.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        2. I don't just believe, I argue. You just don't want to hear them.
        
        To one of your arguments, I give ten facts that this is not so, but you do not want to hear them.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        3. The appointment of Nabiulina and other liberal ministers does not please me at all.
        
        It was sarcasm if anything.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        There are other economists. What makes you think that Glazyev and Khazin are freaks - you know better. I think that in economics they understand a little more than you or me. And even we both put together.
        
        Who for example? Glazyev and Khazin base their economic theories on conspiracy theories. Khazin seriously claims that Japan and the Middle East will enter the ruble currency zone. That's funny. He is a kind of Zhirinovsky from the economy.
        
        isofat
        
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        April 22 2022 11: 27
        
        Oleg Rambover, you must understand that your laughter is a very weak argument in the dispute. You sometimes find it funny for no apparent reason, then you hear nonsense, then you begin to unfoundedly stigmatize the conspirators. You are unable to accept someone else's point of view.
        
        Bakht
        
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        April 22 2022 11: 38
        
        I don't see your facts. There are your dogmas that are not supported by facts. The crisis of liberalism in the West is obvious.
        You do not answer my arguments. History will judge, this is true. But I can repeat until liberalization is carried out in Russia, there will be no Victory.
        The liberal model is intended only for a narrow circle. Russia is not included in this circle.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -2
        
        April 22 2022 12: 08
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Haven't I given enough reasons not to leave a stone unturned from your postulates about a liberal system.
        
        Your reference to the biased "Russia in Global Affairs" with "Everyone agrees that he is in a deep crisis" somehow does not draw on the ultimate truth. You know, and I am sure that in our discussions I break you to smithereens, citing many facts that contradict your statements, which you ignore or stop the discussion. Funny, right?
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Do you still believe in your dogmas, after the West simply spit on its own laws and violated all signed agreements? And on their own liberal values.
        
        Firstly, you are a little confusing idea and practice. After what the Khmer Rouge did, you did not turn away from the communist movement. An idea is a goal, an ideal, quite possibly never achievable (like communism).
        You can always find something contrary to liberal ideas even in the most liberal of the liberal Finland and Iceland, and you can also find something liberal in the last North Korea.
        Second, don't exaggerate.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Here, in the quite liberal Baltic states, they passed a law that they would be deprived of citizenship for supporting Russia. Would you like to comment on this in terms of liberal freedoms and human rights?
        
        There is a movement of human civilization that has been guided by liberal ideas for the last 300 years. There were deviations along this path, there were steps back, but the general direction remains the same. About 60 years ago there were racial laws in the USA. In Britain, same-sex male relationships were legally subject to chemical castration. Now there is no such thing. You cite the deprivation of Russian citizens of the second Latvian passport as a crisis of liberalism. This is a maxim of slight hesitation and that can be argued. Here the first world was a crisis of liberalism, which led to the emergence of real alternatives, communism and fascism. Then one could believe in the end of liberalism. Now what? What's the alternative?
        
        Bakht
        
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        April 22 2022 12: 47
        
        You have no facts and arguments. Any source that does not fit into your dogmas, you stigmatize biased. Despite the fact that there are quite serious people.
        I didn't see any evidence to support what you said. Apart from the mantra that the liberal world is the only way forward. Many politicians and economists see this as a one-way street. In favor of those countries who had time for the pie earlier. For 300 years (actually much more), the "civilized world" robbed everyone in a row and built its well-being on this basis. And now, when this well-being is under threat, this most "liberal world" is pulling us all into war.
        You don't want to admit that there are no liberal norms in Europe. All your postulates of a liberal world order have been violated in Western countries. Violating all rights, laws and agreements, the West demands their strict observance by other countries. He does not limit himself by any restrictions and laws.
        This is the crisis of liberalism. Breaking your own rules. There are a million facts. Bring them all? Paper is not enough. Such facts multiply every day. The Baltic States, Italy, Greece, Germany, USA, ... the list is long.
        Specifically one country. In Ukraine, where there is an open Nazi regime, where all the basic principles of liberalism are violated (compare with your list), the Russian army defends these very universal values. And the West doesn't like it. By the way, you too. What else to talk about? This is not a departure from the discussion. This is simply an understanding that it is useless to argue with dogmatists. Why should I waste my time on a deranged person?
        
        About the Khmer Rouge. Saloth Sar adopted their ideology in liberal France. He was overthrown by the Vietnamese communists. With the support of the USSR. The Americans protected him. In any case, it was the States that kept the representation of the Khmer Rouge in the UN. The example you gave, as always, is unsuccessful.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -1
        
        April 24 2022 14: 25
        
        Quote: Bakht
        You have no facts and arguments.
        
        What facts and arguments did you not understand? I'll explain, it's not difficult for me.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Any source that does not fit into your dogmas, you brand biased.
        
        Any source that says:
        "All agree that he is in a deep crisis.All Russian citizens support the NWO", " All Ukrainians are a nationalist, "you can immediately send them to the trash. And if the leaders of the publication are regulars on political talk shows on federal channels ... If I ask you to cite such a statement by Fokuyami, Katzenshtein, Kohein about the deep crisis of liberalism? Or your beloved Levy? Or are they not those adherents ?
        
        Quote: Bakht
        I didn't see any evidence to support what you said.
        
        You are not careful. Let's do it again. Do you not notice how the lives of people all over the world have changed over the past 100 years? How have their rights changed, the quality of life, the number of violent deaths?
        Once again, what political theory is coming to replace liberalism?
        Once again, which country has abandoned the doctrine of liberalism?
        
        Quote: Bakht
        In favor of those countries who had time for the pie earlier. For 300 years (actually much more), the "civilized world" robbed everyone in a row and built its well-being on this basis.
        
        Who is being robbed by Finland and Sweden? New Zealand and Canada?
        
        Quote: Bakht
        And now, when this well-being is under threat, this most "liberal world" is pulling us all into war.
        
        Hmm... are you sure?
        
        Quote: Bakht
        You don't want to admit that there are no liberal norms in Europe. All your postulates of a liberal world order have been violated in Western countries. Violating all rights, laws and agreements, the West demands their strict observance by other countries. He does not limit himself by any restrictions and laws.
        
        Well, this is nonsense. All right? I repeat, you will find something anti-liberal everywhere, but it is foolish to deny the direction of development of society. The latest refugee crisis in Europe is essentially liberal. In Europe, many believe that refugees have the same rights as indigenous people, since all people from birth in the world have such rights. And by the way, the UN believes that the observance of human rights (see liberal values) is not a right, but an obligation of the authorities of sovereign states.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        This is the crisis of liberalism. Breaking your own rules. There are a million facts. Bring them all? Paper is not enough. Such facts multiply every day. The Baltic States, Italy, Greece, Germany, USA, ... the list is long.
        
        Once again, who abandoned liberalism and in favor of what? Here is the arrival of the National Socialists in Germany with the help of democratic procedures, here is the crisis. And this is your desire to see what you want to see and ignoring what does not fit into your worldview. But do not worry, to one degree or another, this is inherent in all people.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        In Ukraine, where there is an open Nazi regime, where all the basic principles of liberalism are violated (compare with your list), the Russian army defends these very universal values.
        
        It’s hard for me to argue on this topic, you can get under the article (to the question of values). You don't know what National Socialism is.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        This is simply an understanding that it is useless to argue with dogmatists. Why should I waste my time on a deranged person?
        
        I will not tire of carrying out the statement of the respected isofat
        
        Quote: isofat
        The dumber a person, the faster he condescends to insults.
        
        It is ridiculous to hear about sanity from a person who believes that Joseph worked miracles with a word.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        About the Khmer Rouge. Saloth Sar adopted their ideology in liberal France. He was overthrown by the Vietnamese communists. With the support of the USSR.
        
        You will argue that they are not communists? All modern doctrines were born in liberal Europe, including the late communism.
        Well, OK. Cultural Revolution in China, Great Terror in the USSR. Almost everywhere where the communists came to power, they staged a bloodbath. This did not turn you away from this doctrine.
        
        Bakht
        
        +2
        
        April 24 2022 14: 34
        
        I have said many times that you do not accept the factual side of the matter. And refer to what is written. But not what happens in real life.
        I don't need to talk about the bias of publications. Read the text carefully and say that it is not true
        
        https://russtrat.ru/analytics/23-aprelya-2022-0010-10014
        https://russtrat.ru/analytics/24-aprelya-2022-0010-10018
        
        Especially the first part. All human rights and freedoms are described in detail there. And how they are performed. For each article.
        
        The Khmer Rouge called themselves communists. But they acted differently. How exactly? In the early 80s, I read the book by Wieslav Gurnitsky "Hourglass". Yes, V. Gurnitsky was a communist and supported Jaruzelsky. Even, kakzhet was his press secretary. One of the first to visit Kampuchea. His book gives a quite accurate analysis of the logic and actions of the Khmer Rouge. By the way, to complete the picture, Pol Pot was also supported by China. Communist. This does not mean that the methods and ideology of Pol Pot were recognized by the USSR. It has nothing to do with communism.
        
        And about Stalin. You write over and over again that "Stalin worked miracles with a word." This is from our old discussion about order 227. You still did not understand what the meaning of the order was. In truth. This is clear? Stalin told the people the truth and said that there was nowhere to retreat. Just like Churchill's famous speech. He also said that there is nowhere to retreat. In some cases, it brings people together. Stalin did not work miracles. It simply reflected the interests of the majority in the country.
        I never use the term "all". And it's not in my links. I use the terms "most". So, the majority in Russia (about 80%) support the NWO. And this is a fact.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -2
        
        April 25 2022 23: 01
        
        Quote: Bakht
        I have said many times that you do not accept the factual side of the matter. And refer to what is written. But not what happens in real life.
        I don't need to talk about the bias of publications. Read the text carefully and say that it is not true
        https://russtrat.ru/analytics/23-aprelya-2022-0010-10014
        https://russtrat.ru/analytics/24-aprelya-2022-0010-10018
        
        But then you do not give the facts! What should be referred to? Your links are not what is written? Are these two?
        You on all counts?
        First:
        
        Article 2
        Every human being shall enjoy all the rights and all the freedoms proclaimed by this.....
        
        What about today? Russia has been declared enemy No. 1, our citizens living abroad are subjected to harassment and persecution with the connivance of the authorities, in fact they are deprived of the opportunity to enjoy all the rights and freedoms they have.
        
        I have several acquaintances, citizens of the Russian Federation, who live in various countries of the decaying West. They did not complain about the persecution.
        https://mirnov.ru/lenta-novostej/nemeckii-ministr-prizvala-prekratit-travlyu-russkih-i-belorusov.html
        https://www.mknews.de/social/2022/03/14/politiki-germanii-o-nedopustimosti-diskriminacii-russkogovoryashhego-naseleniya.html
        Liberalism rehabilitated?
        
        There are too many points, I do not have the opportunity to respond to each. If you want, choose any, we will analyze.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        This does not mean that the methods and ideology of Pol Pot were recognized by the USSR. It has nothing to do with communism.
        
        What is this distant? The USSR and China almost fought. China was at war with Vietnam. So what. Where is the right communism? (disclaimer, no where). You yourself claimed that Stalin was not a communist. I think the Stalinist USSR could well admit that Stalin acted in similar ways. Pol Pot built "100%" communism in a single country. Liberalism is also not homogeneous. Just like fascism was.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        And about Stalin. You write over and over again that "Stalin worked miracles with a word." This is from our old discussion about Order 227.
        
        This is mysticism, and I don't believe in mysticism.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        It simply reflected the interests of the majority in the country.
        
        It is hard to believe that collectivization was in the interests of the majority of the country (peasants).
        
        Bakht
        
        +2
        
        April 25 2022 23: 13
        
        Again for the old. Because of one word you deny the obvious. You were explained point by point that the liberal values of the West do not apply to Russia. This is the very fact that you point-blank do not want to see. That is why Putin said that liberalism is dead. In any case, in Russia he is dead.
        
        I already said that I do not want to waste time. We stand on completely different positions and assess reality differently. This is a pointless argument.
        
        By the way, collectivization was in the interests of the peasantry. But of course you won't believe it. The well-known dissident A. Zinoviev wrote about this.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -2
        
        April 26 2022 23: 13
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Because of one word you deny the obvious.
        
        This is obvious only to you.
        
        This word is a base text marker. If the author allows himself to be so categorical, then the text does not draw on objectivity.
        
        You were explained point by point that the liberal values of the West do not apply to Russia.
        
        I have already suggested, choose any item, we will analyze. There are at least strong exaggerations. I gave you counterarguments on the first point. What are your objections?
        
        Quote: Bakht
        This is the very fact that you point-blank do not want to see. That is why Putin said that liberalism is dead. In any case, in Russia he is dead.
        
        No. I am in Russia and I am a liberal by conviction. And I'm not alone.
        You are ignoring an elementary argument. If liberalism is dead, what has come to replace it. You have nothing to object to this.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        I already said that I do not want to waste time. We stand on completely different positions and assess reality differently. This is a pointless argument.
        
        That's why I get the feeling that you are losing arguments to me completely, because you simply merge without giving any counter-arguments.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        By the way, collectivization was in the interests of the peasantry. But of course you won't believe it. The well-known dissident A. Zinoviev wrote about this.
        
        Of course, it's hard for me to believe that the seven million who died in its collectivization process agree with you. What are their interests if they are dead?
        
        Bakht
        
        +2
        
        April 27 2022 00: 10
        
        You didn't give reasons. You referred to several acquaintances. I don't feel like I'm losing arguments. It seems to you that you are arguing something.
        Remember the reality from history. If one formation dies, this does not mean that another one will immediately replace it.
        7 million people died? Maybe. But they were also dying in the US at the same time. And how many are now dying of hunger in a world where there is no collectivization? According to the WHO, 24 people die of hunger every day in the world. Who is to blame? Collectivization or the specter of communism? How many people died in India from a famine organized by the British? According to some reports, up to 3 million people in one year. Didn't know this? Well, of course, it wasn't the communists who did it.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -3
        
        April 27 2022 13: 48
        
        Quote: Bakht
        You didn't provide any evidence.
        
        I brought you the statements of German politicians about the inadmissibility of persecution. How many citizens of the Russian Federation fled to their homeland from persecution in the West? For now, they're running in the opposite direction.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        It seems to you that you are arguing something.
        
        But you are not able to argue with reason.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Remember the reality from history. If one formation dies, it does not mean that another one will immediately come to replace it.
        
        When did it happen that one formation would die, and a new one would not knock on the door for a couple of centuries? The departure from absolutism went on for centuries. The Marxist movement was 1917 years old by 70. Fascism? It also did not appear out of nowhere. Your argument is not valid, it is based on nothing.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        7 million people died? Maybe. But they were also dying in the US at the same time. And how many are now dying of hunger in a world where there is no collectivization? According to the WHO, 24 people die of hunger every day in the world. Who is to blame? Collectivization or the specter of communism? How many people died in India from a famine organized by the British? According to some reports, up to 3 million people in one year. Didn't know this? Well, of course, it wasn't the communists who did it.
        
        It was you who said that "collectivization was in the interests of the peasantry." When you were objected to the inconsistency of your statement, you began to speak in the spirit of "and they lynch blacks." Undoubtedly, people in different countries of the world have died and are dying of hunger. (Except fantasies about mass famine in the USA) But how does this justify the famine in the peaceful USSR? How does starvation in other countries make mass deaths from starvation of people with collectivization in the interests of these people?
        
        Bakht
        
        +3
        
        April 27 2022 14: 54
        
        I quoted the opinion of the dissident A. Zinoviev. Collectivization was necessary. And it was held everywhere in all countries. The famine of the 30s is not necessarily associated with collectivization. At that time there was famine in almost all countries.
        
        I was not going to discuss on the basis of "and they lynch blacks." I just gave an example of how, in peaceful India, the British staged a man-made famine and up to 3 million people died.
        
        If you write that death from starvation was the fault of the leadership of the USSR, then we must also admit that the famine in other countries was created without the participation of the Communists. There is so much blood on the conscience of Western Civilization that the communists (USSR) are not suitable for them as apprentices. But you don't notice it.
        
        isofat
        
        0
        
        April 27 2022 20: 48
        
        Quote: Oleg Rambover
        I brought you the statements of German politicians about the inadmissibility of persecution.
        
        Oleg Rambover, do German politicians know what is being done in their country?
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -6
        
        April 19 2022 22: 53
        
        Regarding the "nonsense", liberalism will become obsolete when something else takes its place. Such a day will certainly come, but today there is no alternative to liberalism. Just other political doctrines (communism and fascism) have become obsolete. And there is not even a hint that some doctrine is replacing liberalism.
        
        Bakht
        
        +4
        
        April 19 2022 22: 58
        
        The West is successfully killing this same liberalism. But the ideas of communism are increasingly in demand. By the way, the ideas of communism are more than 2 thousand years old. And they won't all die.
        
        Bakht
        
        +1
        
        April 19 2022 23: 12
        
        According to the political scientist F. M. Burlatsky, the Moral Code of the Builder of Communism was written under the following circumstances:
        
        It was in the Moscow region, at the former dacha of Gorky. It was 1961. With a group of consultants of the Central Committee of the CPSU, I worked on the program of the party - from beginning to end. Our group was led by the secretary of the Central Committee, Boris Nikolaevich Ponomarev, and the direct work was carried out by his deputy, Elizar Ilyich Kuskov, a beautiful soul, a sharp writer and a sensitive journalist.
        One morning, after a strong evening drink, we sat in the gazebo and had tea. Elizar says to me:
        
        - You know, Fedor, “ours” called (that’s how he called Ponomarev) and says: “Nikita Sergeevich Khrushchev looked through everything that you wrote, and advises you to quickly come up with a moral code for the communists. It is desirable to transport him to Moscow within three hours.
        
        And we began to fantasize. One says “peace”, the other says “freedom”, the third says “solidarity”… I said that it is necessary to proceed not only from communist postulates, but also from the commandments of Moses, Christ, then everything will really “fall” on public consciousness. It was a conscious act of incorporating religious elements into communist ideology.
        
        In just an hour and a half, we composed such a text that the Presidium of the Central Committee passed with a bang.
        
        In 2009, Gennady Zyuganov declared:
        
        I believed and believe that the first communist was Jesus Christ, the Sermon on the Mount was written no worse than the Moral Code of the builder of communism. Actually, the Moral Code of the builder of communism was written off from the Sermon on the Mount.
        
        In 2016, Putin praised the Moral Code, saying that he liked the communist and socialist (biblical) ideas in the code.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
        -2
        
        April 21 2022 13: 09
        
        You know how disappointing that is. I hoped for more. Putin praised? And now what. If Putin is a communist, then I am Pushkin. He has childhood friends the capitalists of the capitalists.
        And I'm not sure that Zyuganov and the Communist Party can be called communists. Campaign he did not read Marx:
        
        Religious squalor is at the same time an expression of real squalor and a protest against this real squalor. Religion is the breath of an oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a soulless order. Religion is the opium of the people.
        
        isofat
        
        0
        
        April 21 2022 19: 32
        
        Oleg Rambover, it doesn’t even occur to you that people of different views can maintain friendly relations.
3. Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich
  
  0
  
  April 23 2022 12: 40
  
  You are right like no one else, this should have been done before the start of the operation, by the ninth of May the operation would have ended as a whole.!!!
gorenina91

-9

April 19 2022 11: 40

Russia can defeat Ukraine and its Western curators before the end of 2022

- Well, what can I say! - You can only navigate based on current events!
- As it was - so everything continues! - All the same "tactics" and all the same previous mistakes (attempts to attack in the forehead "an enemy not bombed into the trash", which occupies fortified positions) - nothing new!
- Unfortunately, in 1,5 days, the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was not broken through in any sector; and the "cauldron", which they constantly talk about, has not been formed either!
- Practically - again the enemy is being "squeezed out" from their positions - immediately on all sectors of the fronts! - Active operations will soon end (huge military resources will be spent) - and the positions will remain the same (with minor changes that do not give much advantage)! - Something our General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation did not come up with or undertake anything more radical!
- And it's very bad - it's just disgusting that Mariupol has not been completely cleared! - It is obvious that this "situation in Mariupol will remain so for the entire period of the holidays" (if the Nazis do not surrender there)!
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Yuri V.A

-9

April 19 2022 12: 09

Let's be realistic - the liberation of Donbass and the defeat of the Donetsk group of nationalists is the maximum that the Russian Armed Forces are capable of so far
steelmaker

+5

April 19 2022 12: 51

the actual deadline for the completion of the special operation for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine

Everything will depend on the defeat of the Donbass group. And something grandiose, a frightening silence is planned. Our Alexander Dvornikov came up with something ingenious. Because they are preparing painfully thoroughly, at the same time they are crushing the manpower of the Nazis with blows. Even the United States does not have enough patience. The start date changes every week.
1. goland72
  
  +2
  
  April 19 2022 13: 18
  
  Despite all the mistakes made, I still believe that those who lead the NWO will bring it to its logical end, despite all the howls. And only those who do nothing do not make mistakes. If only these errors were not malicious.
Roust

-1

April 19 2022 14: 02

It's easier to talk while sitting on the couch. Do not interfere with the Soldiers of Russia and the DLNR to do their Job! Everything has its time.
Oleg Rambover

-6

April 19 2022 19: 56

Does the author not really want to help the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation?
https://hh.ru/vacancy/50550091
Awaz

0

April 19 2022 20: 32

According to the mind, the blow must be delivered by concentrating forces in some, not even the most important direction, in order to create some panic and disrupt the plans of the enemy, who knew exactly where the main blow would be directed and prepared well for this. If in two, maximum three days, there really are no changes at the front, the new commander can also be fired. Well, take the General Staff in full force to the front as infantry, because losses will actually occur.
Well, yes, in principle, it is already possible to withdraw troops ...
Sergey Latyshev

-3

April 19 2022 22: 34

Something utterly incomprehensible.
Ours, with complete superiority in technology, systematically clean everything and everyone, but here

The “Great Battle”, since almost a quarter of a million military personnel from both sides will converge in a pitched battle.

In ancient times, Borodino was somehow drawn, and there it is true that Kutuzov delayed the battle as best he could.

And until "until the end of 2022" - a long time. during this time, everyone who can from the Armed Forces of Ukraine will undergo retraining for Western equipment, courses for a young fighter, ... increase the receipt of assistance, etc.
"to the end .." at 2 months - one thing, at 8 months - quite another.

and all sorts of elections ... - but who cares about them, even with us., except for specialized "experts". Everything is known and so.
Yuri Bryanskiy

-1

April 20 2022 04: 58

These are not peacekeepers with us, but peace killers.
Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich

0

April 23 2022 14: 06

Of course, I am not a strategist, and therefore I cannot understand why it is necessary to storm the Mannerheim Line? Suvorov climbed through the Alps with a small army in order to defeat a larger one, in Belarus they laid gati through swamps for tanks. And here you have neither the Alps nor the Swamps. Kyiv was almost surrounded, Chernigov was approached without a fight. God himself ordered to go west to destroy the nest. Have you seen the movie Aliens? In all they would have to remove the most combat units from the Donetsk direction. Butch on the conscience of our leadership. So there is someone near Putin. Well, it’s not like Biden, the youngest, sat down on Azovstal. I didn’t want to drape on foot, I wanted to leave by the warm sea. Intelligence needs to get the elder's DNA, and verify the disfigured corpses. The leaders of the West will not worry so much even for the chief of the US General Staff.
Evdokimov Sergey Yurievich

0

April 23 2022 14: 32

I would very much like to know the content of the agreement, which was handed over to Zelensky. I feel that our Foreign Ministry has prepared another surprise for us. An interesting pattern - Stalin was a smart man, but around him a flock of mediocrity (Khrushchev, Budyonny, Voroshilov, etc.). The exception is Zhukov and Beria (no matter how you treat him, but the atomic bomb is thanks to him). Similarly -Putin-around him-Sands. Medinsky, Chubais, Serdyukov, I can name a dozen larger ones, but you yourself know them. The exception is Sobyanin, Shoigu, and in my opinion Ivanov. It would not be bad to appoint Vladimir Solovyov as the main advisers to Putin, then I would be completely calm for us, an intelligent person, and most importantly, not a traitor. In general, to be honest, I’m not sure of anything, starting from Nicholas the 2nd and up to our time, betrayal of Russia’s interests has become the norm.
Neville Stator

0

April 24 2022 11: 59

This is one of the best articles I have ever read. Continue to punish Ukraine's economic, logistical and industrial infrastructure and it will collapse like a ripe pear.
Leonid Dymov

0

April 25 2022 18: 09

Taking the big cities of Ukraine is the loss of our soldiers and civilians, these are the costs of refugees and humanitarian aid. This is the creation of military-civilian administrations on the territory occupied by the RF Armed Forces. I think that our leadership is considering all this. First of all, you need to clean up Kyiv and change the government there. The new government will order the Armed Forces of Ukraine to stop resistance and disarm the Nazis. Having lost control from Kyiv, the disintegration and disintegration of Ukraine into separate regions will begin. This chaos will make the offensive of our troops more successful. Perhaps there is no point in conquering all of Ukraine, where the partisan movement will begin. Simultaneously with Kyiv, Odessa must be cleared. The regions adjacent to the Black and Azov Seas should become part of the Russian Federation as regions. These may be the southern parts of the coastal regions - Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Odessa. The northern parts of these regions can join the Dnepropetrovsk and Kirovograd regions, forming Novorossiya. And Ukrainians themselves will deal with Ukraine and Little Russia in referendums.
Ten canarias

0

April 27 2022 11: 37

Yeah, maybe ... If he starts to fight, as in a war, and not as in a "special operation". A special operation of 40 million countries infected with Nazism, with NATO behind it, cannot be overcome!