"White gloves" removed: the second stage of the special operation in Ukraine will take into account the mistakes of the first


Some, due to their natural stupidity, the rest, due to the fact that they understand absolutely nothing in modern methods of warfare, naively believe that the 1st stage of the NMD, which ended with the withdrawal of a group of Russian troops from the territory of the three regions previously occupied by them, has become complete and final the fiasco of the Russian military machine, which faced clear and organized resistance from the Ukrainian side, which resulted in negotiations with the "gang of drug addicts and Nazis" of the delegation headed by Medinsky, which ended in an attempt to drain Russia's interests on them. The press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, his press secretary Maria Zakharova and even Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Nikolai Patrushev, each in his own way, but disavowing the previously declared by the President of the Russian Federation, added fuel to the flaring fire of internal rejection of this by the broad masses of the people. goals and objectives of the SVO.


Only the statements of Maria Zakharova and Nikolai Patrushev, made at intervals of three days, that the goals of the SVO are not the change of the political leadership of the 404th, what are they worth? And then let me ask the respected gentlemen, how did you then intend to carry out the denazification of the Nazi state? Is it really the hands of the Nazis themselves (like bees against honey)? Well, they will carry out such denazification for you that even the living will envy the dead (in Bucha you have already seen how they can do it!). Similar policy of conciliation and concessions ended with the completely emboldened Great Player at the Royale already declaring that not only that there can be no talk of denazification, but even demilitarization should not be stuttered with him. In his Napoleonic plans, the Israeli version of the end of the conflict, when soldiers with weapons in cinemas and cafes (both men and women) will become the norm for the future Ukraine. How do you like that? Like? Wait a little more, he will sing to you not so much. You will still pay reparations to him all his life (I hope, short, he has not long left).

Stage #2: Order to destroy


I will talk about the role of Peskov and the others in this below, but for now I will explain how the 2nd stage of the NWO will end and what the mistakes of the 1st were. Do not be afraid to admit your own mistakes, for reasons that the people will not understand and will not forgive. The people will not understand and will not forgive only lies. No need to belittle your people with lies and consider them stupider than yourself. It is necessary to speak frankly with the people, and then together with them it is possible to solve problems of any complexity. And now we face the task of the greatest difficulty. Truly existential. What is at stake is the very existence of Russia within its present borders as an independent, indivisible and independent state. No more and no less! Truly, Russia is now fighting alone against the entire collective West, as during the Great Patriotic War. It is just right for us to declare the Patriotic War, general mobilization and "Get up a huge country ...". Otherwise, we will not defeat this enemy!

The main mistake of the 1st stage of the NMD was the underestimation of the strength of the enemy and the level of his nazification. I don’t know who suggested the General Staff, but this is an obvious flaw in our services, both foreign and domestic intelligence (SVR and FSB). For, according to the plan for conducting a military defense, at the 1st stage we tried to minimize the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, naively believing that the national battalions were our main enemy, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine would not offer active resistance, and if they did not deploy weapons against their insane leadership, then at least they would surrender without fight, (yeah, keep your pocket wider!). The cost of these mistakes was our losses in the first days of the NMD, when we faced the sophisticated fierce resistance of all, without exception, units of the Ukrainian army that oppose us. I already wrote about it here (about the total nazification of the Armed Forces of Ukraine back in the period of 2015-16), I don’t know why this became a revelation for our leadership. But only those who do nothing do not make mistakes. Intelligence is not about not making mistakes, but about learning the right lessons from them.

Such a lesson was learned, and if at the 1st stage we tried to fight without taking off our white gloves, preserving the enemy personnel if possible, then at the 2nd stage of the NMD a different decision was made.

Another mistake of the 1st stage was the incorrectly chosen balance of forces. We were going to defeat Ukraine with little bloodshed, throwing against a 300-strong army (not counting the mobile reserve and territorial defense forces), a 200-strong group of troops stretched across a huge theater of military operations. And if we achieved our first victories due to the effect of surprise and high mobility of the movement of our BTGs, then in the future their mobility became a minus for them, when the rear supply columns could not keep up with the avant-garde and fell into the clutches of Ukrainian DRGs, who knew the terrain well and were guided by it . And there was no one to hold the territory already occupied by us. So we became hostages of a maneuver war, which we ourselves imposed on the enemy. But for some reason he was in no hurry to meet with us in a direct clash, leaving for the cities and creating a human shield there from the local population. Why we did not calculate this scenario is a mystery to me. The practice of using cities-besieged fortresses was used even by the Nazis, the ideological mentors of modern Ukrainian Nazis.

Their overseas curators did not plan such stubborn resistance of the wards at all, relying more on guerrilla warfare in urban areas (the so-called urban guerrilla), when every house would shoot in the back, for which they pumped them not with heavy weapons, but with portable anti-tank ones ( ATGMs and MANPADS) and light rifles (including RPGs and AGS). However, having discovered that the non-brothers, using our mistakes, achieved unexpected successes, the curators switched to a different tactic of warfare, starting to pump up the wards with already heavy types of weapons (their deliveries have already begun and will only increase further). Therefore, we have a difficult battle ahead of us, not for life, but to the death, and it is necessary that people who are ordinary people clearly understand this.

And this is where our main mistake lies. We do not announce the purpose of this operation. They seem to have been spoken out by Putin in the form of demilitarization and denazification in the name of ending the genocide of the Donbass people, but not fixed by official Moscow through repeated repetition (even if only on billboards in all the liberated cities and villages where the Russian army entered). As a result, while saving the Donbass people from genocide, we unwittingly endangered the rest of the people of Ukraine. And the fact that this is how he sees at home in real time. And he can't figure out who's shooting at him. And our enemies are doing everything to shift their sins onto us, smearing us up to our ears in their own blood and filth (and with all the mainstream media in their hands - they easily succeed), our quiet voice of truth is drowning in this muddy stream lies. Moreover, people, not hearing the goals and ultimate tasks of the Russian Federation in this operation and seeing the cruelty with which the Kyiv Nazi regime suppresses any pro-Russian narrative, are in no hurry to show sympathy for the Russian troops that liberated them. You have come and gone, but we live here - so they say. This is the main mistake of the Kremlin at the 1st stage of the NWO, and therefore the main task at the 2nd stage is to convey to the people in Ukraine that we will not go anywhere, we have come forever. If this slogan is voiced, then it will be easier for our guys to understand why they are sacrificing their lives. It just so happened that here and now the fate of Russia is being decided. It is very bitter that on Ukrainian soil, but that's how the card lay. It was impossible to take this further. The Rubicon was crossed on February 24, 2022. At the same time, Russia is trying in every possible way to minimize casualties among the civilian population, even at the cost of the lives of its soldiers.

But for the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, you should know that at the 2nd stage of the NMD, we will no longer be foolish with any of them. We will burn Nazism from the Ukrainian land with a red-hot iron. Anyone who does not have time to surrender, only death awaits. Fierce death. The order for destruction has already been received by the troops.

Zhirinovsky and other actors of the Kremlin pool


On April 6, the permanent leader of the LDPR passed away. The farewell to him was held with all due honors in the Hall of Columns of the House of the Unions, even Vladimir Putin came to say goodbye (and this is a special sign of respect!). Vladimir Volfovich was buried at the Novodevichy Cemetery next to the former mayor of Moscow, Yuri Luzhkov. The funeral service in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior was conducted by the Patriarch of All Russia Kirill, and in addition to Putin, Medvedev, Shoigu and other officials were present at the memorial service. The people noticed that Zhirik was buried as a president, only a gun carriage was not enough to complete the picture. All this, of course, is impressive. But I was personally much more impressed by the words of ordinary people left on YouTube (just a lump in my throat), I will give only a couple, but there all the comments are:

Yes, they laughed, they called Zhirik, but he left and ... emptiness in his soul. He will be greatly missed. And we will remember fondly.
Zhirinovsky - longing, no words, I always got doping. He was such a man ... it was nice to listen and always positive. It's a pity!

Farewell, Vladimir Volfovich! Earth in peace and the kingdom of heaven! You will be missed. Regardless of political views, I always respected you. The smartest, most educated, funny, with charisma, with character! Farewell.

Trust me, it's worth it. Everything is hidden behind these words. Not everyone will be told this. The people loved Zhirik, who died so untimely (although when is it on time?). But right now, we will all miss him very much. And not only to us, but also to those in power. He checked the critical angles of deviation on the right flank, sometimes shocking our liberal pro-Western public, but by doing so he allowed the Kremlin to determine the gap of opportunities where it is possible to shift the steering wheel of our big ship to the right, for which our society is ready. In this sense, everything was allowed to him. This is how the Kremlin determined how ready Russian society was for the transfer of arrows to an independent navigation independent of the West. Now that he is gone, and there is no replacement for him on this flank yet, Peskov and Zakharova began to play this role, only the other way around.

I hope everyone here understands that the position of the press secretary of either the President or the head of the Foreign Ministry does not imply the existence of one's own opinion. These people are called upon to voice official opinion, the point of view of the Kremlin or its foreign policy department. They have the right to have their personal point of view and even voice it, but only in their kitchen, and not in the media. Agree that both Dmitry Peskov and Maria Zakharova evoke sympathy purely outwardly, internally endearing them to themselves. They cannot be compared either with the talking head of the White House, Jen Psaki, who has already become a household name, personifying impenetrable stupidity (in fact, like her boss, an Alzheimer's patient), or with Pentagon press secretary John Kirby (although he is against the background of his colleague from The White House looks almost like a titan of thought). And if Dmitry Peskov says something that does not fit into your head, and what you regard as a betrayal of national interests and flirting with the West, then think about why he is saying this? He did not go crazy and did not go out of obedience to the Kremlin, especially since he is not an opposition to his boss, who has already agreed that he himself sometimes wonders what his talking head is carrying.

Do you yourself believe that the talking head of the Kremlin could get out of obedience to the Kremlin and incur some kind of progressive nonsense? .. So you yourself answered your own question. If the talking head of the Kremlin or the Foreign Ministry carries some kind of nonsense from your point of view, then so be it! So it is necessary for both Putin and Lavrov. So they check the critical angles of deflection to the left. And from the murmur that began in Russian society, it is already clear that society is clearly not ready for this, taking it with hostility, as a national shame. This means that in the near future we are waiting for a sharp tilt to the right, a mass final exodus from the Fatherland of any pro-Western liberda that has not yet fled to the West, voicing the real goals of the NWO, maybe even renaming it into a war, and not just a war, but a Patriotic war (this should do as it should be done by Patriarch Kirill, we are closely following him). Because the Fatherland is really in danger, it has been brought to the brink of its existence, and the fate of Ukraine is not being decided in this war. Now and here the fate of Russia itself is being decided - to be or not to be as a sovereign independent and indivisible state. We are not at war with Ukraine, let alone with its people, we are at war with the entire collective West, and it has staked everything on it. But we have nowhere to retreat. Behind Moscow, not in the figurative, but in the real sense of the word. And the fact that Nazi rockets are not falling on her yet is only for now. And we must all be aware of this.

Opponent's plans


The US Department of Defense believes that Ukraine can win the war against Russia, and Russian President Vladimir Putin has failed to achieve any of his strategic goals. This was recently announced by Pentagon spokesman John Kirby.

A US Defense Department spokesman said that according to Pentagon analysis, Ukraine could well win the war with Russia, despite the fact that, according to some administration officials, there is a risk that this war will escalate into a protracted conflict.

Of course they [Ukrainians] can win,” Defense Department spokesman John Kirby said at a briefing at the Pentagon. – Proof of this is the development [of the situation] that we see today. They are definitely capable of winning.

He is echoed by a member of the Ukrainian delegation, adviser to the head of the OP Podolyak, who, having heard enough of the possible speeches of his curators, said yesterday that

“Ukraine is already ready for big battles. Ukraine must win these battles, including in the Donbass. And after that, Ukraine will get a more substantial negotiating position, from which it can dictate certain conditions.

The EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs, Josep Borrell, drew a line under the discussion when he unexpectedly paid a one-day visit to Kyiv:

This war must be won on the battlefield

- said Borrell, and once again mentioned the additional €500 million allocated last month for the purchase of weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which "will be matched to Ukrainian needs."

And this is said by the chief European diplomat, who, according to his status, is supposed to negotiate and resolve controversial issues not on the battlefield, but at the negotiating table. Does anyone still have doubts that a real war has been unleashed against Russia? What else can you negotiate with them?

Warring President


I just want to say, what kind of negotiations, guys? Only after your defeat. Negotiations are no longer needed. Everyone is waiting for the final battle. And in general, with whom do you propose to spend them? With this Misunderstanding, playing without hands on the piano, which cannot get out of the door without another “path” of white powder? Who is guarded by military personnel of a foreign state? Moreover, it is not yet clear - is it a guard or a guard? Are they guarding him or are they guarding him so that he does not run away? Is it really incomprehensible that this Misunderstanding no longer belongs to itself, let alone represent the people of Ukraine. This nonentity is completely under the hood and maintained by his curators from London and Washington, and they will not hand him over to the scrap until he fulfills his intended function of weakening Russia through an exhausting and exhausting war to recycle the country that he once led.

Yes, they raised him to the shield, now he has become the face of a campaign aimed at the destruction and defragmentation of Russia. And he's doing his part so far. I even got a taste for it - it greys before our eyes. I'm not even sure that after the defeat of his Kwantung army and the disappearance of his country from the political map of the world, we will be able to put him in the dock as a war criminal. And instead of a cell in a pre-trial detention center, this nonentity will still wave its fist at us from some offices in The Hague or Brussels (of course, if, as a result of our march to the west, we do not reach there either). But I'm afraid that this will not happen, and we will end our campaign, God forbid, on the western borders of the country that this nonentity once represented. He and his entourage have no way back (as well as ours!), and therefore they will fight to the end, to the last Ukrainian. Moreover, this is exactly what is included in the plans of its curators. They will not let him or us go – this is the very last and decisive battle for the right to sovereignty and independence. Either we them, or they us!

I hope there are no people here who believe that the defeat of the Kwantung Army of the 404th will also mean its demilitarization? Believe me, if we leave everything as it is after that, then this hydra will grow three or four new ones instead of one severed head. The West has already shown us all how it can easily and naturally militarize the remnants of the once great Armed Forces of Ukraine, believe me, the West has enough tanks, self-propelled guns, air defense systems, missiles, and planes for us, and there are still a lot of people left in Ukraine, in the battle will go not just like the old people, but even women and children. They will go to a holy cause - to bury Russia. This is their goal and the meaning of life, according to the plans of their overseas masters. Therefore, we will have to complete the work we started, no matter what it costs us. Here we fight for our future!
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  1. foot.foot Offline foot.foot
    foot.foot (colma) April 12 2022 20: 23
    +17
    It's time to finish the games with the green and HIT it exactly and beat the fascist wickedness right in the west of Ukraine and all the supplies of all sorts of helpers
  2. foot.foot Offline foot.foot
    foot.foot (colma) April 12 2022 20: 26
    +12
    Enter capital punishment in Russia!
  3. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
    Afinogen (Afinogen) April 12 2022 20: 31
    +13
    The West has already shown us all how it can easily and naturally militarize the remnants of the once great Armed Forces of Ukraine, believe me, the West has enough tanks, self-propelled guns, air defense systems, missiles, and planes for us

    It was high time to break all the bridges across the rivers, road and especially rail and no supplies and pulling up reinforcements. Otherwise, we now want to fight in the Donbass, and they drive weapons and reinforcements across the bridges on the Dnieper in an endless stream, we do not have time to destroy them. Here, take the tactics of the Americans, the first thing they do is break all the bridges, depriving the enemy of maneuver.
    1. Midshipman Offline Midshipman
      Midshipman (Sergei) April 14 2022 09: 37
      0
      And have the Americans won many wars with their tactics? You can, after all, and vice versa - first gather everyone in one place, and then bomb the bridges and slam the mousetrap.
      1. Afinogen Offline Afinogen
        Afinogen (Afinogen) April 14 2022 10: 17
        +1
        And you can bomb, for example, all the bridges in western Ukraine and the large flows of weapons from the West will stop. Now such flows of weapons are coming, there are not enough wagons. And there is no need to spend a large number of highly accurate missiles on the destruction of weapons already brought in.
  4. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) April 12 2022 20: 34
    +1
    ... the first stage of the NMD, which ended with the withdrawal of a group of Russian troops from the territory of three regions previously occupied by them, became a complete and final fiasco of the Russian military machine, which faced clear and organized resistance from the Ukrainian side, which resulted in negotiations with a "gang of drug addicts and Nazis" delegation led by Medinsky, ending with an attempt to drain the interests of Russia on them ....

    I heard a speech by a Ukrainian priest. HE said that the retreat of the Russians from Kyiv is the providence of God. Now, when the pro-Russian Ukrainians were dealt with by the godlessly brutal Nazis, it became clear to the world, without any pressure from the media, who is the servant of the devil.
    There are also statements like this:
    https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2022/03/24/moldavskie-svyashchenniki-specoperaciya-rossii-na-ukraine-promysel-bozhiy
  5. YES UZH Offline YES UZH
    YES UZH (YES) April 12 2022 20: 59
    +6
    Enough of relaxation, crushing the enemy inside, stop playing lightning outside, take the necessary measures for this, bring the economic block to consciousness, solve the personnel issue in failed areas, introduce the necessary control. It's time to work out a strategy of action with friendly, and even more so not friendly states. The main thing is to stick good splinters to the Anglo-Saxons, to worry and deprive them of a quiet life, I hope they are working on this, or is it only the president and the Armed Forces who are fighting with us? And the rest relaxed the rolls and watch?
  6. Oleg_5 Offline Oleg_5
    Oleg_5 (Oleg) April 12 2022 21: 10
    0
    Well, since we do not want to destroy the transport infrastructure, can we come in from the other side?
    Explain once, for all and intelligibly to the "partners" - that another supply of weapons from them, and that's it, the tap closes?
    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) April 13 2022 09: 28
      +1
      This has already been explained to the “partners” a hundred times, but none of them wants to heed our warnings, all this empty chatter and expression of concerns is enough, the time for empty useless negotiations is over, we need to act, and quickly, confidently and firmly, stop chewing already snot, further delay now can cost us dearly!!!
  7. EpIvIaK Offline EpIvIaK
    EpIvIaK (Ian) April 12 2022 21: 16
    +4
    But for the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, you should know that at the 2nd stage of the NMD, we will no longer be foolish with any of them. We will burn Nazism from the Ukrainian land with a red-hot iron. Anyone who does not have time to surrender, only death awaits. Fierce death. The order for destruction has already been received by the troops.

    And this despite the fact that more and more often in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are less motivated fighters from other waves of mobilization.
  8. tkot973 Offline tkot973
    tkot973 (Konstantin) April 12 2022 21: 18
    +3
    Thank you for the article. A rare case of an objective assessment of the situation.
  9. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) April 12 2022 21: 29
    -7
    Again, another pamphlet on the same topic by the same author "Everything is lost", only with a tiny caveat - and suddenly not everything, and the "curve" is somewhere, but it will lead that it is unlikely. Such articles are worse than direct calls to the inhabitants of Russia to take up arms from army depots, and "harp" their Maidan to overthrow Putin's "bloody" regime, create a repetition of revolutionary chaos in the country, and then the neighbors along the border will arrive in time - Europeans, Galicians, Turks, the Chinese, Japanese, etc., our "partners" will gladly come running to carve up our torn apart country, with the richest bowels of the entire periodic table. From your article, the Author, it is perfectly clear that our highest command generals of our own General Staff graduated from the three-month courses of ensigns, and they are not capable of more, as soon as they command in the supply room, and even about the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with all ter.and car. baht, there are not 300 thousand of them, but many times more, almost 10 million people live in Western Ukraine, and three million, at least, this is already the freshest mobilization reserve, and even throughout Ukraine there will be at least 3-4 million "The current government, and all of them, the EU and the USA are promised to arm with their modern weapons, so you can't do without a big and bloody fight if you don't use tactical nuclear weapons along the border with Poland and in Galicia, in the hornet's nest of Galician nationalists who are now killing civilians DPR and LPR ... And now about you, the Author, how do you easily and without problems penetrate the brains of Russian readers of your articles, pushing decadent moods into their heads, sowing panic and fear about our worthless General Staff and the entire officer corps, and that We have already lost half of our actions with the NMD, and we will also lose the second, but we will have to win again, and for the umpteenth time, because our president said why do we need such a world in which there will be no Russia.
    1. tkot973 Offline tkot973
      tkot973 (Konstantin) April 12 2022 21: 37
      +15
      Valentine, if this article sowed panic and fear in your head, then this is the problem of your head and not the "brains of Russian readers." With all due respect to you.
      1. Valentine Offline Valentine
        Valentine (Valentin) April 12 2022 22: 11
        -6
        I, Kostya, have been for many years, and I fought off my own for a long time, the wars did not bypass me either, so I judge from my "bell tower" Read the article more carefully, and look between the lines. And I have such a principle - "whether it is bad or good, but this is my Fatherland", and we have not been given another, and Victory will be ours. All the best!
        1. Vyacheslav 64 Offline Vyacheslav 64
          Vyacheslav 64 (Vyacheslav) April 13 2022 04: 09
          +5
          Well, if you got scared, where does fear come from where there is no reason for it? Here someone calls against love for the Fatherland? Something I didn't notice. We are talking about the fact that we must be able to recognize objective mistakes and correct them as quickly as possible, as well as quickly respond to a rapidly changing situation. This is the art of management. And shouting "hooray, we are God's chosen ones" and continue to be stupid, this is the lot of idiots, and they always fail!
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) April 13 2022 09: 41
      +4
      Valentine, you have some kind of strange, dislocated logic of thinking and perception, the article is more than objective and relevant, and if your brains are not able to adequately and correctly perceive it, then these are problems only exclusively in the adequacy of your mental development.
    3. FGJCNJK Offline FGJCNJK
      FGJCNJK (Nikolai) April 14 2022 07: 28
      0
      But Valentin said everything correctly, because these bums, with a large number of stars on shoulder straps and with education no higher than three-month ensign courses, have not been able to calculate the elementary scenarios for the development of possible events and are now “deciding” something else there? The President clearly and clearly set the task, but what are different talking heads, maybe they need to be isolated for the duration of the hostilities? Showdown with them will be after the end of the CBO.
    4. Midshipman Offline Midshipman
      Midshipman (Sergei) April 14 2022 09: 39
      0
      Exactly exactly. The first 10 lines were enough to understand what kind of article it was and who the author was.
  10. InanRom Offline InanRom
    InanRom (Ivan) April 12 2022 21: 57
    +5
    “Along with the achievements, there are also shortcomings.” It's quite safe. This can even be said of the Bible. Along with brilliant passages, there are ideological breakdowns, for example, the author encourages the reader to believe in God.
    Ilya Ilf - Soviet satirist

    As long as the criterion of effectiveness is not the complete destruction of Nazism, but political and economic "games" with "partners" and "negotiations" - nothing good can be expected. In the Patriotic War, only the USSR was able to break the back of the Nazi reptile, because it did not count profits, trading with enemies, and "creating comfortable conditions for negotiations", "blizzard" did not carry, but fought to the death, for the sake of life and peace on Earth. The ideology of spirit and justice has defeated the ideology of profit and hatred! In today's Russia, there is no ideology as such de jure, and de facto the one that those in power profess does not differ from the ideology of enemies, where profit is everything and people are nothing. And, if the "white gloves are off" - then what kind of negotiations and conditions can there be?! The author is an optimist, again he sees cunning plans and multi-move: "So they check the critical angles of deviation" ... to whom the angles are, and to whom there are doubts, anxieties and unanswered questions. You should not wishful thinking. So that it would not be "excruciatingly painful" later.
    and then:

    And if Dmitry Peskov says something that does not fit into your head, and that you regard as a betrayal of national interests and flirting with the West

    again, all the fools, and the heads of all are not the same. Is Mannerheim's board also a cunning plan? Or a monument to Krasnov? Or the transformation of the "Kiev junta" (the words of the first persons) into handshake (and not only) "partners and colleagues" for the same 8 years that the Donbass was under fire, and the "partners" were in full swing nazification and banderization ?!
    and this is generally a pearl:

    If the talking head of the Kremlin or the Foreign Ministry carries some kind of nonsense from your point of view, then so be it!

    Amazing. Does this mean that the harm caused to our country and people by such "statements" is also "so necessary"?

    Honesty in politics is the result of strength, hypocrisy is the result of weakness.

    VI Lenin
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) April 14 2022 13: 23
      0
      It all started with the fact that the Russian army was scattered, because a soldier needs to be dressed and fed, in addition to training, and this is money. Ukraine is not yet able to create a million-strong army, due to the fact that there are not enough weapons. Zelensky asks the West to give weapons, and he will put together an army. The leaders of Russia either do not understand this, or pretend that they do not understand. So really everything can end in Moscow. No need to comfort yourself that they write incorrectly. The people are worried about this, the anxiety is not only in the number of dead, but also in why they started without a clue how to conduct it and how it could end.
  11. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 12 2022 22: 32
    -1
    Another explanation "why everything goes wrong as I want, we want, they want, etc"

    Since they say “everything is wrong”, it means a cunning plan, it means “Fatherland of danger”, therefore we don’t touch those who are “not so upstairs”, but we blame the machinations of the West, Zelensky, Brussels, NATO, etc., etc.
  12. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) April 12 2022 22: 35
    -3
    You can write for a long time and in detail, analyze the pros and cons, agree with something, and argue with something. Since I have already spoken on this topic, I will probably limit myself to the main thing.

    It just so happened that here and now the fate of Russia is being decided.

    Is it so? Let's hypothetically imagine that an order was received and tomorrow all the troops were withdrawn. Justification for the public is not so difficult to come up with. For example, that there are biological weapons in the cities, the inhabitants are actually hostages, promotion is not possible and will lead to huge casualties. And therefore the trip is postponed, but we will definitely return. Those who wish can leave with us, we will help you settle in Russia.
    And let's try to honestly answer the questions for ourselves.
    So, what is next? End of Russia? What will happen to her?
    1. Avarron Offline Avarron
      Avarron (Sergei) April 12 2022 23: 22
      +7
      What will happen to her is that the Galicians will come to the lands liberated from the pro-Russian inhabitants with their swastikas, drag NATO warriors, poke long-range and hypersonic weapons, then go to recapture the Crimea, where the American fleet will come and the British will follow it.
      Then the Caucasus will flare up and break away, followed by Tatarstan, and very soon the entire territory of the country will plunge into the slaughter of all for all, which will be stopped with an iron fist and carpet bombardments by the white master from across the ocean-ocyyan. Or he won’t stop, but will give it to the Ukrainians, who have already smelled Russian blood, for plunder.
      How do you like the prospect? I've only suggested the most obvious.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) April 13 2022 08: 48
        -4
        What will happen to her is that the Galicians will come to the lands liberated from the pro-Russian inhabitants with their swastikas, drag NATO warriors, poke long-range and hypersonic weapons, then go to recapture the Crimea, where the American fleet will come and the British will follow it.
        Then the Caucasus will flare up and break away, followed by Tatarstan, and very soon the entire territory of the country will plunge into the slaughter of all for all, which will be stopped with an iron fist and carpet bombardments by the white master from across the ocean-ocyyan. Or he won’t stop, but will give it to the Ukrainians, who have already smelled Russian blood, for plunder.
        How do you like the prospect? I've only suggested the most obvious.

        It's dark how you did it. Since we are discussing a provocative question in a sense, and do not forget that hypothetically, just to check the correctness of the statement, so to speak, evidence from the contrary. Do not blame me, I will argue extremely cynically.

        Freed from the pro-Russian inhabitants of the territory, do you mean the cleansing? Which territories? How many pro-Russian population remained there? In my opinion, it is there for the most part amorphous and is ready to sit under any authority. The Russian will be good, no, and so we will sit. They are not prepared to change anything. Something is not heard about the exploits of the Odessa partisans. If you remember, it is written above that those who wish can go to Russia, by the way, there is also a place in the LDNR.

        And Galicians with a swastika have been going there for 8 years, so nothing fundamentally changes.
        An attempt to "poke long-range and hypersonic weapons, build bases for the American and British fleets, and then go to recapture Crimea" will lead to a repetition of the operation, a new disarming strike. Excuse me, but so far I don’t see anything fateful for Russia, the situation is rolling back to the state of 2021 and that’s it. Probably not an entirely appropriate comparison, but Tbilisi was not stormed and there are no Russian troops there. And somehow neither the Caucasus flared up from this, nor Tatarstan, nor the massacre reached Siberia or the Volga region.
        Is the Caucasus waiting for the withdrawal of troops from Ukraine? Is that all he needs to get excited? And Tatarstan is following the events, preparing to blaze. They sit and wait; Are you exaggerating? With what fright should the whole country plunge into the slaughter of civil war? This is just one of the scenarios and your assumptions. I can tell you one more scenario of the development of events where none of this will happen. And how do we determine whose point of view is closer to reality?
      2. shiva Offline shiva
        shiva (Ivan) April 13 2022 19: 47
        +1
        Correctly. In 14, we tried to say with little blood to the insolent West - you will not see Crimea unambiguously.
        It was necessary to be more resolute and wider - and maybe it wouldn’t have been ... Oh, what’s the point of pulling pants on a pooped ass ...
        Do the job to the end!
        The Kyiv government is a terrorist. How else can you call the arrest of an oppositionist and attempts to exchange him for prisoners? This is terrorism. This is taking a person hostage without trial ... Oh yes, we have the main courts in Europe, and the most important in the USA ...
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) April 13 2022 09: 52
      +2
      If we withdraw our army from Ukraine without achieving all our intended goals, then the question immediately arises, why then did we put so many of our military, for a temporary "walk" and the subsequent ridiculous and unreasonable withdrawal of troops, war just for the sake of war is not at all included in our plans, all our goals are clearly stated and if they are not ultimately achieved, then we will have to answer the main question, why so many people were "put" then, think about it before writing like that !!!
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) April 13 2022 11: 06
        -2
        The question immediately arises why then we put so many of our military, for a temporary "walk" and the subsequent ridiculous and unreasonable conclusion, the war just for the sake of war is not included in our plans, all our goals are clearly announced and if they are not achieved in the end, then you will have to answer the main question, for the sake of which so many people were "put" then, think about it before writing something like that !!!

        I can probably give an answer to the question "why did we put so many military men," or rather state my opinion on this issue. I don’t see the point in copying the text, if you are interested, you can read the link:
        https://topcor.ru/24997-v-bitve-za-donbass-sojdutsja-pochti-250-tysjach-soldat-i-oficerov.html#comment-id-238544
        It is interesting to know your opinion on this issue. For some reason it seems to me that you have gone into emotions. And you see the situation like this.
        There are bad Bandera people, we will not tolerate this ideology, and therefore we are starting a great campaign until complete and final victory. That's all. We will punish criminals, we will help people, we will rebuild Ukraine and live peacefully and happily. And if we can’t, then the price is worthless to us and in FIG we don’t need such a Russia, the end of it and we will get bogged down in a fratricidal war on its ruins.
        I'm trying to translate the discussion into a practical plane, to discuss more mundane issues, technical details, and so on. We kindly ask you not to go into reading morality and not try to shame, but to think, weigh, answer some questions.

        1) In general, for a start, I would formulate the question differently, not "why did they put it", but why did they introduce it? More precisely, why was it introduced right now, and not, say, in January or last year? Do you really think that the presence of Bandera has become unbearable? In January, it was still tolerable, but in February, the cup of patience overflowed? In my opinion, my version (following the link) is more realistic and probably at least somehow explains the choice of time to start the operation.

        2) What practical tasks were set for the troops before the start of the operation? Or do you think they wrote something like this - enter the territory of Ukraine, carry out denazification, and report on the execution. If we understand what goals were pursued, we will be able to assess how successfully they operate and what results they achieved. And general denazification is an abstraction, because there are specific Nazis, National Battalions, there are those who carry this ideology to the masses, promote it in the media, and finance it.
        And everyone has names, names and surnames. And not all of these tasks are carried out by the army. What is considered the final victory in this case is not clear. If you mean taking control of the entire territory of Ukraine, then you are mistaken. With the forces involved in the operation, this is simply impossible. What they can do is to nullify the military potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is what they are doing. Further work is already the next stage, and this will be done mainly not by the army, but by several other structures.

        3) As for Ukraine itself in its current form. In my opinion, this is a puppet, a colony controlled by the West, talking about their independence is simply ridiculous. A chained dog that is set on us by an American owner and a European dog handler. And you call the pacification of the mangy dog ​​a battle in which the fate of Russia is decided. There are a lot of such mongrels around our fence, starting with a Georgian mongrel. Do not bully their status to the skies.
        The fate of Russia is decided in a showdown with the US and the EU, Ukraine is only a fragment of this struggle, a separate sector of the front and nothing more. The main events are now taking place in the silence of bank offices, at the construction sites of enterprises, in the bowels of the military-industrial complex. Banking, finance, hydrocarbon supplies, trade routes, and so on. Right now, the basis of their power, the dollar and the euro, is breaking down. The events in Ukraine are only a manifestation of this struggle, so they show us how dissatisfied they are and how much they dislike everything that is happening. It's just that they are not ready to do it directly.
        Without the support of the US and the EU, the Ukrainian regime is nothing, a complete zero. So the Koshcheev needle, in Washington and Brussels.
        And please, let's not touch the dead fighters, they died doing their duty.
      2. GSM Offline GSM
        GSM (hj hsyn) April 13 2022 20: 54
        0
        And how many soldiers were put in, if not a secret?
  13. Zwain Offline Zwain
    Zwain (Zwain) April 12 2022 22: 40
    0
    it would be good!
  14. wichera65 Offline wichera65
    wichera65 (Vladimir Baranlv) April 12 2022 22: 41
    +6
    Here, the author accuses us of "couch strategists" that we do not understand anything in this war. Disagree. We were the first to sense that something was wrong. A war without rears, a war without uplifting slogans for soldiers, a war with "withdrawals" and ridiculous captures (and murders) of our soldiers. And everyone was waiting, well, now our generals will show them Kuz'kin's mother. And then again, and our troops dissolved. And I thought, well……! It would be better if, together with the Donbass, these Nazis would be driven away from Donetsk, so that the inhabitants would stop suffering and dying under shelling. Here is the slogan for you, here is the call for revenge. And so, what Peskov is drilling there, how caustically Zakharova fights back, what our negotiators are withered, all this is mud. But that, just as Donetsk and Luhansk residents have been shelled since 2014, they are shelling to this day, here is our "sofa" resentment and misunderstanding.
  15. Valentin Borisov (Valentin) April 12 2022 23: 02
    +1
    You yourself said everything - Peskov, Lavrov, Zakharova .... GRU and political analysis .... you can add the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance. Crap on all sides ..... We will rake!
    1. Vyacheslav 64 Offline Vyacheslav 64
      Vyacheslav 64 (Vyacheslav) April 13 2022 04: 14
      0
      No need to panic, no one screwed up! It only happens smoothly on paper, and on the couch, after a glass of courage.
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) April 13 2022 10: 08
      +1
      The main thing is to admit and carefully analyze your mistakes in time, drawing the necessary correct conclusions from them in a timely manner, quick and effective work on your mistakes is exactly what is needed now, it is rightly said that only those who do nothing never make mistakes.
  16. Grandpa Wow Offline Grandpa Wow
    Grandpa Wow (Nikolai) April 12 2022 23: 08
    +6
    The mistake of the Russian authorities was that they did not take into account the words of the DPR and LPR about the degree of Nazism in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and their brainwashing! There are no adequate ones at all, and even the prisoners, upon their return, will again return to the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and will again fight against us with new weapons! Ever since 2014, being in the militia, I vehemently urged Zakharchenko not to take prisoners! But who would listen to me! So we came to this conclusion through a bunch of lives of our soldiers and civilians! What is there to "save the lives of soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" ?!. They know that they are killing civilians and they don't care at all! And you capture them, feed them, treat them, create conditions for them! You clearly miss Stalin! To their wall and without trial or investigation! How much longer will you babysit the Nazis??? How many more thousands of lives will you sacrifice to save these Nazis??? Burn them with fire and sword without pity, otherwise our Russian kindness will destroy us! They clearly do not intend to feel sorry for us! Their torture of our prisoners does not smell of humanity at all! Okay, while I finish the monologue, otherwise I’ll have to open the blog myself! ..
    1. Valentin Borisov (Valentin) April 12 2022 23: 25
      +1
      Open a blog, you already have one subscriber
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) April 13 2022 10: 16
      +1
      I completely agree with you, in this situation, humanism, tolerance and tolerance towards the enemy are our main obstacles that greatly prevent our army from defeating an extremely cruel, cynical and motivated enemy with the least losses and in a shorter time !!!
    3. GSM Offline GSM
      GSM (hj hsyn) April 13 2022 21: 07
      0
      After all, there are prisoners on the other side, and what do you think will happen to them?
  17. AndreyVCh Offline AndreyVCh
    AndreyVCh (Andrei) April 13 2022 01: 40
    +3
    The special operation could not end successfully because of the vague wording: we are not going to occupy Ukraine, but we want to denazify and demilitorize. And what are we doing now in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions? Have you liberated the Lugansk and Donetsk republics? It's been 45 days actually. Vladimir Vladimirovich is no longer talking about denazification and demilitarization, he is talking about protecting Donbass. Now think, let's say tomorrow we still reach the borders of the former Donetsk and Luhansk regions, and then what? Shall we announce the end of the special operation? What does our Commander-in-Chief say about the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions? What is going to be there? Silently establishing our power there, right? Why doesn't the sovereign talk about these territories? And if we stop, will Ukraine, the EU and the US stop? Arms supplies are in full swing, will the outcome of the special operation depend on us? Yes, from us, if it does not end in the positions that we occupy now. If we stop the advance of troops to the west, then they will already be moving towards us - this is obvious. That is, the second phase of hostilities is coming - that's right.

    But you also need to think about the economy, soon Ukraine will become bankrupt, completely bankrupt, the EU will provide them with money, military equipment only to continue the war, which means the war will continue until the last Ukrainian. Today, 1 Ukrainian servicemen were taken prisoner, we will feed, drink, cure them and let them go home to take them prisoner again. And until we grind all this, everything will continue like this, because in Ukraine there will be only one income left - the war with Russia, the front line. The handle of the meat grinder will have to be turned tirelessly, this is our commander in chief and his generals, Peskov with Medical, and the unsurpassed strategist Shoigu must understand. The more they mumble and carry nonsense, the more our soldiers and officers will die. They must understand that each of their crazy words is the life of our servicemen.

    It is a pity for Zhirinovsky, but he died a heroic death in the fight against the enemies of vaccination, without this clown it is boring of course. But he lived for 75 years at his own pleasure.
    1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
      gorenina91 (Irina) April 13 2022 02: 13
      +2
      It's been 45 days actually. Vladimir Vladimirovich is no longer talking about denazification and demilitarization, he is talking about protecting Donbass.

      - Yes, not only does not speak; but in general - it seems that everything begins to "curl"! - For the second week, nowhere (except Mariupol) has been conducted real active military operations - everything is some kind of continuous "relocation", "reformation", "transfer"; local skirmishes and "battles of local importance with saved positions" and so on. !
      - And at this time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine - on the contrary, are replenished with new reserves, equipment, supplies of imported weapons - and the shelling from the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not stop (they have factories for the production of shells around them, or what?)! - For some reason, the enemy's communications are not destroyed - all of his possible ways of delivering new equipment, ammunition, reserves, etc. !

      "White gloves" removed: the second stage of the special operation in Ukraine will take into account the mistakes of the first

      - What "white gloves" and from whom are they removed ??? - Nothing has changed in this regard - again everything "takes its own course"! - Everything is done in order to provide the enemy with the "best comfort" so that he can use all the possibilities for resistance !!! - What is going on ??? - Who is in charge of all this??? - Or among our military leaders - also got their own "Medynsky" ??? - It seems that our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - after the capture of Mariupol, are simply not going to continue the special operation and now they are simply looking for a "weighty reason" to somehow explain this! - Everything is somehow artificially delayed for an indefinite period! - For the sake of appearance, allegedly preparations for a "powerful offensive" are being demonstrated! - But in reality - there is a sluggish imitation, allegedly - "preparations to continue conducting a special operation"! - All this causes a very strong anxiety!
      1. Nike Offline Nike
        Nike (Nikolai) April 13 2022 09: 01
        +3
        One gets the impression that there is almost no aviation in Russia, well, one or two and miscalculated, or are they taking care of it? Yes, smash Galicia to smithereens, bridges, roads, passes, everyone and everywhere did this, but Russia saves, the question is, for what. Or for whom?
        1. GSM Offline GSM
          GSM (hj hsyn) April 13 2022 21: 08
          0
          Half is gone...
    2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) April 13 2022 09: 23
      -2
      Today, 1 Ukrainian servicemen were captured, we will feed, drink, cure them and let them go home to take them prisoner again

      And who will restore the national economy? Who will dismantle the destroyed cities and build new ones?
      1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
        sgrabik (Sergei) April 13 2022 10: 41
        +1
        Quote: Bulanov
        And who will restore the national economy? Who will dismantle the destroyed cities and build new ones?

        To do this, it is necessary to create special filtration camps to keep all these people, no one can guarantee that after liberation these people will not want to take up arms again to counter our army and special services, in this situation, uncontrollably letting the captives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine go home is the height of stupidity and short-sightedness, as long as hostilities continue, all captured military personnel from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalion should be in special institutions under constant control and supervision, at the moment this is the only true and justified approach.
  18. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) April 13 2022 02: 06
    0
    Quote: Oleg_5
    Well, since we do not want to destroy the transport infrastructure, can we come in from the other side?
    Explain once, for all and intelligibly to the "partners" - that another supply of weapons from them, and that's it, the tap closes?

    Warrior. Stretch out for hundreds of kilometers, having two fronts on the left and on the right. Go through two lines of good guys and try to survive, fighting back from all sides.
  19. opportunist Offline opportunist
    opportunist (dim) April 13 2022 03: 22
    +3
    For a month they walked around Kiev in light armor of special forces, as if they were going to a picnic. Our soldiers went from house to house distributing sweets and medicines to old women while the Nazis beat us in ambushes. Zero use of our large artillery, which is what the West is really afraid of, limited use of aviation. I honestly can't figure out who orchestrated this plan.
    1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat (What's the difference) April 13 2022 05: 39
      +1
      Russia's plans for this operation have not been announced? In general, what are the plans of the Russian state in general, in relation to, for example, its people? What is being built by the Kremlin brethren on the territory of the Russian state? Do they understand what they are building? recourse
  20. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) April 13 2022 04: 35
    +1
    Only the red flag of victory over Lviv and the creation of Carpathian Rus is our victory. Otherwise defeat. And the big-eyed and Masha should be banned from performing. We must listen to Kadyrov, a real Russian man.
  21. Mikhail Androsov (Mikhail Androsov) April 13 2022 05: 18
    +4
    President Putin should deal with the statements of his entourage, including Peskov, which do not consolidate society in any way, but, on the contrary, introduce elements of confusion, to put it mildly in the minds of Russians. The Hasvyurt agreement is still too fresh in my memory. And where is the no-fly zone over Ukraine, why are trains moving freely from the western border?
  22. Pilot Offline Pilot
    Pilot (Pilot) April 13 2022 05: 24
    +1
    I remember very well when, until 2014, VV walked around the European summits for many years, smiled and dragged himself from pathos. Before the country he did not care. Everyone accepted and bowed. The people were already freaking out that he had been forgotten. Then bang .... About happiness, Pence reform. Ukrov must be finished to the end by lyubas. But something I do not really believe in BB.
  23. Zenn Offline Zenn
    Zenn (Andrei) April 13 2022 05: 27
    +3
    The General Staff is assigned tasks by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, who, despite his obvious dislike for I. Stalin, repeats Stalin's mistakes.
    The message that the Ukrainian people, this is a fraternal people, is worth exactly the same as the slogan of the Communists in May 1941 - the German proletariat will not fight against the proletarian USSR.
    What "brothers" they are showed 8 years of the Minsk agreements.
    Ukrainianism is a cancer of Russian civilization.
    1. GSM Offline GSM
      GSM (hj hsyn) April 13 2022 21: 11
      0
      And incurable...
  24. Indifferent Offline Indifferent
    Indifferent April 13 2022 06: 48
    -1
    The author exaggerated too much! But now it is necessary! We are going to the real war, not to the "operation". Well, in reality, if the Kramatorsk group is destroyed in two weeks, then it will be easier. They do not have (in the West and Ukraine) prepared material for the war. There is only cannon fodder, but it cannot win, no matter how you stuff it with weapons. We need officers who are trained, but they are killed. We need generals, and there are not many who are ready to go to the front, even in NATO. We need people who can control modern weapons and are stable in battle. There aren't any left either. Well, there is nothing to change the overwhelming superiority in the air. On any "Fu-35" they will not have time to teach Ukrainian pilots!
  25. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) April 13 2022 06: 57
    +3
    And to destroy the bloody Nazi ukrokloun as a result of a special operation - is it weak for the Russian leadership ??
  26. Savin Offline Savin
    Savin (Savin) April 13 2022 07: 01
    -1
    Too vague goals of the operation in the form of denazification, demilitarization, without specifying the tasks, on the one hand, allow everything to be curtailed if something goes wrong, and on the other hand, with a good combination of circumstances, even to go to Berlin. At the same time, do not lose face. Everything goes according to plan. That is why two opinions are voiced from the boxes. And the war will show the plan. Another thing is that confusion is introduced into the minds of people. And this is clearly not in our favor.
  27. Rustem Offline Rustem
    Rustem (Rustem) April 13 2022 08: 04
    0
    All the same, Peskov, Lavrov, etc. they speak fluently. But this does not mean that the rule during denazification will not be replaced by the Ukrainians themselves. It's just that no one aggravates the topic that Russia will stand behind them. In the forehead to tell the whole truth about our intentions in today's circumstances, when the United States, traveling around the world and persuading, intimidating neutral countries with secondary sanctions, is not advisable.
  28. Muscool Offline Muscool
    Muscool (Glory) April 13 2022 08: 37
    -2
    I never loved Peskov and this Zakharova, Simonyan, and now even more so
  29. Ten canarias Offline Ten canarias
    Ten canarias (Ten Canarias) April 13 2022 09: 37
    +1
    If things go like this, then the Ukrainians will be engaged in the de-Russification of Russia... Fight, fight like that. With all the power of the country, and not twitch back and forth. Fucking pacifists...
  30. Vladimir Golubenko (Vladimir Golubenko) April 13 2022 09: 49
    +1
    A lot of words! And you need to hit the headquarters. In the states and Geyrop! The rest will run away.
  31. Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) April 13 2022 10: 00
    +1
    The conclusions are correct.
    But everything is mixed in one heap and patriotism and Zhirinovsky, Peskov, Zakharova, they would add Sobchachka, Urgant and others ....
    There are big doubts that the operation will be completed.
    Even the president yesterday at the Vostochny cosmodrome "distorted" the ultimate goals of the operation, where there is no question of demilitarization and denazification.
    It looks like it will end up with the fact that, God forbid, the Luhansk and Donetsk regions will be completely liberated within their old borders.
    But then, and this article correctly says, we will create a huge problem for Russia with all the ensuing negative consequences.
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) April 14 2022 13: 38
      0
      One gets the impression that the agreement with Ukraine is to rob the West and the United States, then divide the money.
  32. Oleg_5 Offline Oleg_5
    Oleg_5 (Oleg) April 13 2022 10: 06
    -1
    Quote: sgrabik
    This has already been explained to the "partners" a hundred times, but none of them wants to heed our warnings

    I only remember at the very beginning - to NATO ... so as not to interfere
    but this is something else...
  33. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker April 13 2022 10: 09
    +2
    One Ukrainian blogger, in all seriousness, said that this war does not concern western Ukraine. But really, why aren't air forces strikes on western Ukraine? Or are there no military bases, warehouses, right sector, airports, train stations, bridges, etc.? Single strikes do not count. Why do they feel and behave so calmly? Now they have begun shelling Russian territory. Well, strike at Lvov, Kiev! So that they know that for every mine and shell on our territory they will receive ten in their cities. Well, what if our government took off their white gloves? Or does Russia want to preserve western Ukraine as a museum of Nazism? In general, questions have accumulated "carriage and a small cart." One thing is missing - a big victory and the end of the war!
    1. special correspondent (oleg) April 13 2022 10: 52
      -1
      Banderlogs cannot be frightened by strikes on lions-kiev. They don't give a damn about their own "Urkaians", on the contrary, they are even interested in such an escalation. Therefore, if you beat, then it’s for real. And not in Lviv-Kiev, but in objects of military-strategic importance and the key infrastructure of the Slovak-logs. Moreover - tactical nuclear weapons, there is no other way out.
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) April 13 2022 11: 05
      0
      We are well aware of the location of the underground bunker in which Ze and his entire criminal gang are hiding, why not strike at this bunker with the same "Dagger", everyone has already become convinced of the capabilities of this ammunition to defeat well-protected underground bunkers.
  34. special correspondent (oleg) April 13 2022 10: 49
    +1
    Agree that both Dmitry Peskov and Maria Zakharova evoke sympathy purely outwardly, internally endearing them to themselves.

    ?? What nonsense? Outwardly - both he and she are very unpleasant persons. Inarticulate, the first one is simply unable to formulate thoughts correctly, and the second one is just a chatty "abstrusely" sarcastic blogger and 10% less than the press secretary of the Foreign Ministry. And yes, even the limited Psaki is a more useful person for the United States than these two confused individuals in the press secretariat of the Russian Federation.
    1. GSM Offline GSM
      GSM (hj hsyn) April 13 2022 21: 17
      0
      Man, you care about Medvedev, like cancer to the moon ...
  35. calagin407 Offline calagin407
    calagin407 (Mechanic) April 13 2022 11: 20
    +1
    Agree that both Dmitry Peskov and Maria Zakharova evoke sympathy purely outwardly, internally endearing them to themselves.

    I won’t say anything about Zakharova, but Peskov does not cause any sympathy, moreover, for a very long time ...
  36. Vovan Petrov Offline Vovan Petrov
    Vovan Petrov April 13 2022 11: 25
    0
    There is no clear idea about the goals of the operation, and therefore shirk.
  37. Sidor Bodrov Offline Sidor Bodrov
    Sidor Bodrov April 13 2022 11: 46
    0
    In my opinion, the realities and prospects are perfectly set out in an article on RIA Novosti: Timofey Sergeytsev. "What Russia should do with Ukraine". Here is her link https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html
  38. Panzer1962 Offline Panzer1962
    Panzer1962 (Panzer1962) April 13 2022 12: 00
    +1
    I hope that now we will fight seriously and not childishly.
    1. The total destruction of the transport infrastructure in the zapadenschina, despite the lamentations of the "surrender party" about "unfortunate refugees" and cries about "humanism". Armaments from NATO simply should not go anywhere, so as not to shed a single drop of blood of our guys and Donbass militias.
    Bridges across the Dnieper - here you can think, provided that landing operations are planned to capture them with intact parts of the airborne forces.
    2. Retaliatory strikes by long-range aviation on settlements, from which the executioners of our prisoners come from, followed by the scattering of leaflets in which it is popular to explain the reason for collective responsibility and promises to continue such strikes. So that relatives and compatriots of other executioners scatter in horror from their lairs. 20-25 Tu-22M3s are 960-1200 half-ton bombs. For a small town, this is enough to make the "small homeland" of the Nazi executioner's coming out into the trash.
  39. InanRom Offline InanRom
    InanRom (Ivan) April 13 2022 14: 16
    0
    ..and in the meantime, Kudrin, who had not shown himself since the beginning of the SVO, drew himself - "you can't erase" and said:

    13.25 Chairman of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation Alexei Kudrin: The management of Russia's gold and foreign exchange reserves was carried out in strict accordance with the law, it was efficient, Russia should express its disagreement with the arrest of gold reserves and work to resolve the situation.

    like this - the loss of half of the country's reserves and placing them with a potential enemy - this turns out to be the top of "effective" "management" ... "Disagreement with the arrest" (are these ballroom white gloves?) to "resolve the situation" - well, very effectively! And, most importantly, again no one is to blame and no one is punished for anything.

    Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev advised the "Ukrainian authorities" who want to knock out testimony from the head of the Ukrainian party "Opposition Platform - For Life" Viktor Medvedchuk, to look around and lock the doors at night.

    Here's what is significant - there were no such statements for all 8 years, while the Donbass was under fire and people were dying there, but then what about Putin's godfather and the Ukrainian oligarch, and away we go ...

    "Individual freaks who call themselves "Ukrainian authorities" D. Medvedev

    Deputy Chairman of the Security Council, it's strange - why are you negotiating with these "freaks" and trying to find a "solution that suits everyone"?
    How long to?! If the enemy does not surrender, they destroy him! The Russian army continues to fight valiantly against the Nazis, and politicians and officials continue to "carry a blizzard" to the detriment of their country.
    and while they carry:

    The coalition of the German Social Democratic Party, the Greens and the Free Democratic Party (FDP), ruling in Germany, has decided to supply heavy weapons to Ukraine.
    Rossiyskaya Gazeta

    The "drawdown" of the Russian economy due to transport restrictions and lack of liquidity has already begun, although so far it has hardly affected the labor market, said Andrei Belousov, First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation. RIA News

    how good - it is said - "almost did not affect" ... How much can you lie? Better bitter, but true, than beautiful, but a lie!

    14.00 The Federation Council approved the law on responsibility for identifying the USSR and Nazi Germany. According to the document, for public identification of the role of the USSR and Nazi Germany in World War II, Russians can receive a fine of up to 5 rubles or arrest for up to 15 days. The fine for legal entities is up to 100 thousand rubles.

    A good thing, but - the punishment is not enough, (as in the case of the Ukronatsik who hit a pensioner in Sevastopol for the symbol of the SVO on the car - just compensation), and there is a lack of measures to denazify the monuments to Hitler's accomplices (Mannerheim, Krasnov, Shkuro, Von Panwitz, Validi, Kononov, Naumenko, etc. + a department in the Yeltsin Center, with an exposition whitewashing Vlasov - on the territory of Russia itself.
    or is this also, according to the author, "not our business" or another "checking the angles of deviation" ?!
    1. InanRom Offline InanRom
      InanRom (Ivan) April 13 2022 14: 47
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      News from the Looking Glass:

      14.20 Adviser to the Office of the President of Ukraine Oleksiy Arestovich: There was no surrender of 1026 marines of the 36th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and everything that happened was a “cunning plan” of the leadership to “as a result of a complex and very risky maneuver” of the unit of the 36th Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine broke through and connected with the Azov Regiment *, strengthening the line of defense.

      it seems that he and Kudrin and others like them are members of a sect of believers in a "cunning plan" and "strict compliance" ... well, it all sounds equally unconvincing, either about the "correctly" deployed reserve, or about the surrendered marines, " fortifying the defense...
      Official lies to save yourself, always from the same barrel of bottling.
  40. VladZ Offline VladZ
    VladZ (Vladimir) April 13 2022 17: 34
    +1
    There is an opportunity to watch UkrTV on Internet TV. 24 hours a day, Ukrainian TV channels (partly with the exception of Poroshenko's), having united into a single "inform marathon", brazenly lie to their population, diluting their lies with pretentious patriotic videos. From the first day, the NVO was perplexed - why the RF Ministry of Defense could not cover up this "shop". I understand that broadcasts in modern TV today are mainly via satellite. And the blow to the Kiev TV tower actually did not lead to anything - in Kyiv, television broadcasting was not even interrupted. In this case, I see only one option - to de-energize Kyiv by striking at the power plants supplying the city. It may not be humane, but it will be very effective in achieving the goals of the NWO.
  41. FGJCNJK Offline FGJCNJK
    FGJCNJK (Nikolai) April 14 2022 07: 12
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    Quote from foot.foot
    Enter capital punishment in Russia!

    It is necessary not only to introduce, but to actively use the highest measure against those who will be convicted of sabotage, which interferes with the achievement of the goal at the second stage of the SVO.
  42. stitch Offline stitch
    stitch (Steven Seagal) April 16 2022 16: 52
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    We must begin with change within our society. Create a Defense Council that will coordinate all activities in the country. It is time, finally, to mobilize the people, to call on reservists. Remove from the government, the army, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, intelligence of all those who supply the leadership with incorrect information. In Moscow, many do not want to fight for the Motherland from the word at all. Or will we wait until our cities are hit with rockets?
  43. Tourist Offline Tourist
    Tourist (tourist) April 17 2022 14: 57
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    what a stupid article. the author does not see what is happening at all.
    Here is more relevant material:
    https://topwar.ru/194738-oruzhie-afganskih-dushmanov-pzrk.html

    The US intelligence services quickly got their bearings and did everything to ensure that the Afghan adventure of the Soviet leadership had grave consequences for the USSR. We have to admit that the Americans succeeded, and the invasion of a limited Soviet contingent into a neighboring country cost us dearly politically and economically. The war in Afghanistan largely undermined the faith of the Soviet people in socialist ideals and the adequacy of the government, contributed to the collapse of the Soviet Union.