Almost 250 soldiers and officers will meet in the battle for Donbass

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My friends, now that the scales have begun to swing, and we are all waiting for the decisive battles in the Donbass, like piranha fish, greedily rush to any news, which can shed at least a drop of light on the darkness of questions that torment us, which arose from a lack of true information and an overabundance of false information, where we have already despaired of separating truth from lies, it's time to rise above the globe of Ukraine and try to look at all this from the other side.

I will try to help you with this. I am just like you, just like you, I was tormented by questions to which I had no answers. It was evident from everything, and for this one did not need to graduate from the Academy of the General Staff, that the special operation, launched by the Supreme Commander on February 24, began to choke from the very beginning. We did not extract any positive effect from the strategic initiative that we had and the surprise factor, on the contrary, there was even a strong impression that we had fallen into a skillfully disguised trap cunningly placed by the opposite side, where they had been waiting for us for a long time and anxiously, and now we cannot get out of it without loss of face (about losses in manpower and technology I'll keep silent here out of politeness). After all, we did not start this special operation in order to sit down at the negotiating table “with a gang of drug addicts and Nazis” already on the 4th day of its implementation (here I quote the Supreme Commander verbatim). With these freaks (in the literal and figurative sense of the word), if it is necessary to negotiate, then only about unconditional surrender and surrender, followed by trial, as over war criminals. But no, we ceremoniously bow with them and accept all their conditions (in which city they will be, and in which they will not talk to us), thereby humiliating both ourselves and the people sent to these negotiations (believe me, Medinsky, and Fomin, and Rudenko, and Gryzlov, and Slutsky love the Motherland no less than you, and they are disgusted to play all these games no less than you, but the Motherland said "must!").



After all, it’s a no brainer that it was not for this that we carried out a brilliant landing operation near Gostomel, with the simultaneous landing of 60 rotorcraft (not counting fire cover helicopters), special forces of the MTR, which captured the Antonov factory airfield with small forces and, despite desperate attempts to overturn them from the side of the enemy, heroically held him until the main forces of the Airborne Forces approached by land, so that later it would be so easy to give it to the enemy and return to the starting lines. What kind of cunning plan is this? What were the guys for? No brainer that the original plans for the operation were not implemented. And it was impossible to leave the guys under crossfire from the flanks and rear in this gut, stretched from Chernigov to Kyiv, especially in anticipation of the upcoming "green" when every bush would shoot, so as not to repeat the hard lessons of the Soviet-Finnish war of 1939, when the communications of the Red Army stretched along the roads were cut and destroyed by small detachments of Finnish "cuckoos", who knew and oriented themselves well on the ground. Then the USSR, at the cost of heavy losses in manpower and equipment (with an overwhelming superiority in them), conquered 15% of the territories of the Kola Peninsula from the Finns, which they returned to themselves in August-November 1941, entering the war on the side of Hitler.

Therefore, a delegation was equipped to negotiate with a "gang of drug addicts and alcoholics", which is why the assault on Kharkov and the landing on Odessa were canceled, because the goals and objectives of the operation changed directly during its implementation. And the reason was not that the blitzkrieg failed (no one even knows if the blitzkrieg was planned), you have to be a completely clinical idiot to plan it to capture a country with a territory of more than 600 thousand square meters. km and the strength of the Armed Forces is about 300 thousand people. And since there are no clinical or idiots in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the true reason for the change in the direction of the main attack lies in something completely different.

War for water


To understand what exactly lies the true reason for the change in the direction of the main blow, it is worth going back 8 years ago. It was then that, for reasons incomprehensible to many, the offensive of the combined forces of the LDNR on Mariupol was stopped. It was then that Mariupol could be taken practically with bare hands, "Azov", which then defended it, was no match for the current "Azov" (an organization banned in the Russian Federation), stuffed over the years with heavy equipment and UAVs, outfitted and trained by NATO instructors, which became a testing ground and hotbed of Nazism for the whole world. But then the command came: "Set aside the offensive!". Many considered it as a betrayal. And it is only now becoming clear why Moscow acted in this way.

The thing is that the water supply of the Donetsk agglomeration is carried out through the Seversky Donets-Donbass canal through a network of water conduits. And it just so happened that Mariupol was the last in this chain. With all the desire of Kyiv to leave Donetsk and the adjacent villages and cities of the Donetsk agglomeration (Krasnoarmeysk, Yasinovataya and Dobropolye) without water, he could not do this, so as not to leave Mariupol without water. And that strong-willed decision of Moscow in 2014 was left to Ukraine (and this, as time has shown, was a Solomonic decision at that time). That is why Kyiv, all these 8 years, gritting its teeth, also regularly paid Donetsk for the water that passed through it along the South-Donbass water conduit in the direction of Mariupol. Slavyansk, Konstantinovka, Druzhkovka and Kramatorsk were supplied with water through the 2nd Donetsk water pipeline, but since they remained part of Ukraine in 2014, these problems did not affect them.

Almost 250 soldiers and officers will meet in the battle for Donbass

All these years Kyiv has been trying to solve the water problem in the way it used to solve all its problems. Namely, to leave the hated Donbass without water supply, thereby forcing him to make concessions. To do this, he concluded an agreement with the French, and for their money, with the help of their own specialists, he built a desalination station in Mariupol, which was supposed to solve the problem of fresh water, after which it was possible to turn off the water to the DPR with peace of mind. There was less than a year left before the completion of construction, when the hated Putin ruined all the plans, starting on February 24 his own SVO.

As Russian troops moved deeper into Ukrainian territory and surrounded Mariupol, the water problem resurfaced on the agenda. Moreover, it has become decisive. When it became clear to Kiev that Mariupol could no longer be saved, he simply shot the South Donbass water pipeline from artillery, leaving both Mariupol and Donetsk, and the cities adjacent to it, without drinking water (its reserves were left there for a maximum of two weeks). That is why the Medinsky delegation was equipped for negotiations with the opposite side in every sense, since it became clear that the plans of the NWO would have to be urgently changed. And instead of taking Kharkov, Kyiv and Odessa, first of all, we will have to take the Donbass in order to avoid an impending humanitarian catastrophe there.

New Seelow Heights are waiting for their Marshal Zhukov


This is exactly what Kyiv and its American and British handlers behind it wanted. Stuffed with machinery, filled with concrete, dug into the ground for 10 meters, the fortified area is waiting for its marshals Zhukovs. Take my word for it, the Maginot line and the Mannerheim line next to it look like snotty preparations. To take these echeloned multi-tiered fortifications, which Ukrainian aborigines have been strengthening all these 8 years for the money of their overseas sponsors, threatening more than one hundred million dollars there, is a more difficult task than the one that Marshal Zhukov solved during the assault on the Seelow Heights. Then in 1945, during their frontal assault, more than 33 thousand Soviet soldiers and another 5 thousand soldiers of the Polish Army were killed. Putin has no right to even a tenth of these losses. And you can't do without them. This is exactly what the overseas directors of this action are counting on. According to the terms of the task, they already neglected the Ukrainian natives, they were written off in advance, even before the start of hostilities, it was for this reason that they were not given heavy equipment, why would the future dead need it?

By definition, it is impossible for the West to win against Russia in a direct clash (the gunpowder inside them is not the same, damp!). Therefore, even now they are acting by their usual methods, substituting Ukrainians for themselves, driving the Russian bear into the Donbass trap with the wrong hands. The fact that we will have a hard time there is already clear from the fact that in this direction in a month of fighting we advanced no more than 40 km (advance was 1-1,5 km per day). We had to literally gnaw out meter by meter of this territory from the enemy. Volnovakha was literally razed to the ground, we managed to advance there only thanks to the heroism and skill of the Pacific soldiers, Colonel Bernhard of the 810th Separate Guards Marine Brigade (the colonel himself was awarded the title Hero of the Russian Federation for his courage and heroism).

The fact that this will be an epic battle, which will decide the outcome of the entire operation, is already clear from the fact that the parties have concentrated 90 and 150 strike groups in this direction (the Armed Forces of Ukraine, respectively, have a smaller one). For Ukraine, the victory will be even the retention of the frontiers occupied by it. What is at stake for Russia is its very existence within its current borders. Those. Moscow practically goes for broke. Even a victory with great bloodshed will not be forgiven for Putin. We have an advantage both quantitative and qualitative, but the enemy is not made with a finger. This battle is in danger of becoming the largest military clash since the Second World War. There will be such a battle for peace that in the end there will be no stone left unturned from it. It is there that the full power of Russian weapons will finally be demonstrated. Such that the living envy the dead. Heavy flamethrower systems TOS-1 "Pinocchio" and TOS-1A "Solntsepek", winged "Caliber" sea and hypersonic "Daggers" air-based, concrete-piercing and high-explosive fragmentation homing gliding munitions, ground-to-air, ground- ground" and "air-to-surface", operational-tactical Iskander missile systems terrifying all living things with their ballistic and cruise missiles, and this is not counting cannon artillery, MLRS of all calibers, tanks and aircraft, everything will be thrown into battle, up to vacuum bombs and super-heavy ammunition up to 5 tons.

Summary and outlook for the future


There is no question of any surrender of the interests of the Russian Federation. We did not take control of the North Crimean Canal in order to later give it to the dill. The war for water has entered the final stage, it will begin in the Donbass and end in Transnistria. Draw your own conclusions, but Putin will not leave anything to the dill, neither Kherson, nor Kharkov, nor Odessa, he will take everything up to Ivan-Frankivsk and Mukachevo, nothing will fall to the Hungarians, Poles, or Romanians. Not for this, he started his SVO, in order to turn it off halfway. The negotiations of the Medinsky delegation are just a front to divert attention. The reasons for this maneuver I have already explained to you above.

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  1. +8
    April 10 2022 18: 49
    Just the price the Russians are ready to pay if the reward is the liberation from the Svidomo-fascist evil spirits of the Russian land of Ukraine. "And that means we need one Victory! One for all - we will not stand up for the price!"
  2. +5
    April 10 2022 18: 52
    Thank you for the article.
  3. +4
    April 10 2022 19: 14
    I read the article ... Completely unexpected explanations for all those questions that I could not find an answer to. But it's all damn logical. And there are no more questions. Ahead is the battle for the Donbass, Ukraine and Russia. Extreme.
  4. +1
    April 10 2022 19: 24
    Quote: magdama
    I read the article ... Completely unexpected explanations for all those questions that I could not find an answer to. But it's all damn logical. And there are no more questions. Ahead is the battle for the Donbass, Ukraine and Russia. Extreme.

    The answers to your questions were given on the Reporter a week ago
    https://topcor.ru/24857-rossijskih-voennyh-perebrosili-iz-pod-kieva-chtoby-snjat-vodnuju-blokadu-donbassa.html
    1. 0
      April 10 2022 19: 37
      Thanks for the link. I stupidly looked past this material ...
      1. -2
        April 11 2022 06: 24
        But the author of the article was clearly impressed. smile
  5. +3
    April 10 2022 19: 31
    The problem is that the special operation began with vague wording. For me, for example, its goals and objectives were unclear, in any case, it is impossible to demilitarize and denazify the country without its occupation. Therefore, everything was very difficult: we are not going to occupy, but for some reason we are there. It was necessary to withdraw our troops from near Kyiv, since to storm it is to compare entire blocks with the ground, and we must also take into account that there is a metro there.
    Eight years ago, it was possible to take not only Mariupol, but also Kharkov, and Odessa, and Kyiv, and without losses. Why, for example, was Yanukovych sheltered in Rostov?! It was possible to give him two options: either you are for us, or we are sending you to Kyiv. Now imagine: Russia sends troops to the territory of Ukraine at the request of the legally elected president, against the rebels who decided to seize power. Why not an option? But now what.
    What we have at the moment: we will liberate Mariupol, Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, too, and a forced march towards Transnistria. The entire coast of the Black and Azov Seas, Lugansk and Donetsk are behind us, we don’t need the rest of the territory, it’s too troublesome to deal with denazification on that territory, there is a danger of a partisan war unnecessary for us.
    And then the events will be interesting, it is quite possible that clashes with NATO troops will begin. They will try to blockade the Kaliningrad region so as not to lose control over it ... then a war with Lithuania or Poland, which is actually the same thing. And after that, what happens in Mariupol and near Donetsk... but we'll see.
    1. +7
      April 10 2022 21: 35
      In the sense of "the rest of the territory we do not need"? Is it okay that NATO will bring a mountain of weapons to this "rest of the territory" in a week, and then all this will turn against Russia?
      The minimum where Russia can stop is on the border of Poland. And there can be no talk of any return to Poland of Western Ukraine. What Poles, what Bandera, one mess. In vain, chtoli, Poland supplies weapons to Ukraine?
      In general, I believe that the pndos will not let Russia stop until it reaches the English Channel.
      1. +3
        April 11 2022 07: 34
        Everything can be. There, in the Russian Federation, they are already trying to incite both Poland and the Balts by sending them to attack Kaliningrad and the Japs became more active with shouts about the Kuriles .... And at the expense of western Ukraine, after all, it was already annexed to the USSR, and then they shot us in the back .. The USSR did not succeed in re-educating them and no one will, therefore we have what we have today ... In such a situation, there are two options, either leave Galicia to the Poles and let them squabble with Bandera themselves, or take Galicia, but deport the population, like the Germans from Kaliningrad in 1945, there is no other way ...
    2. +2
      April 11 2022 07: 37
      I agree, but Kharkov also needs to be taken, you can’t leave it in the form of a Bandera splinter near the borders of the Russian Federation ... It is surrounded on three sides by the territories of the Russian Federation and weapons dangerous for too many regions of the Russian Federation can be placed there
  6. 1_2
    0
    April 10 2022 19: 32
    after the surrender of Mariupol, the morale of the dill disappeared, I’m sure after the first massive strikes they will surrender in batches, especially since there are not 100 thousand of them, but they say no more than 50 thousand hungry dirty Svidomo, who are being held by the Nazis
  7. +1
    April 10 2022 19: 48
    Putin will not leave anything to dill

    But this, Putin must say!!! But practice shows something else: they left Kazakhstan, they left Kyiv, they gave away the Chernihiv region, the flags in the liberated territories were not changed everywhere.
    When Putin began to put ultimatums to NATO, I imagined everything differently. But it turned out right away, without preparation - head into the pool! With such an unpredictable commander, I would not go into reconnaissance.
    Anyway, here's an interesting thought that came to my mind. The Yedra party has more than 2 million members. Together with their families, about 5 million people. And how many members of this party are now in Ukraine defending Russia's interests at the forefront? Or is it our leading party, and they lead from the trenches, bunkers and foreign villas! And non-party people are dying! Here's a topic for you to think about and rudeness.
    1. +2
      April 10 2022 20: 12
      Putin is not a cook to lay out all his cards. maybe he should have laid out the start date of the operation for general discussion in advance?
    2. 0
      April 10 2022 20: 48
      I forgot to mention pensions.
    3. -1
      April 10 2022 23: 11
      Now is war time, so keep your obscene little thoughts to yourself, otherwise you can sit down!
  8. 0
    April 10 2022 19: 55
    Your words to God in the ears ...
  9. +4
    April 10 2022 20: 00
    What kind of "when the scales began to fluctuate" "this will be an epic battle that will decide the outcome of the entire operation" ....

    Earlier they wrote that they are smashing in all directions.
    Then - that the battle for Kyiv is about to happen, they say that everything has already been concentrated.
    Now about Kyiv - zero, but they are prophesying some kind of battle "for the Donbass", although earlier they wrote that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are melting and it was almost completely surrounded there ...

    Some kind of alarmism and hatred in one bottle.
    1. -1
      April 10 2022 20: 15
      Maybe it's just memory fading? Initially, the LPR and DPR were the primary targets. and let Kyiv eat up its avocados in supermarkets and swell on a diet.
    2. 0
      April 11 2022 09: 19
      Earlier they wrote that they are smashing in all directions.
      Then - that the battle for Kyiv is about to happen, they say that everything has already been concentrated.
      Now about Kyiv - zero, but they are prophesying some kind of battle "for Donbass", although earlier they wrote that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are melting and it was almost completely surrounded there

      where did you hear a lot of this? Well, I have never read or heard from the highest ranks from the Moscow Region that we are taking Kyiv or something like that, well, I have never heard it at all. Only Peskov sometimes talks crap, but he has nothing to do with the Moscow Region.
      1. 0
        April 11 2022 12: 58
        So there was an article on the site that there would be a battle for Kyiv, where everything would be decided, etc ....
        But I don’t follow MO, I don’t have time
  10. +2
    April 10 2022 20: 09
    You say - desalination plants? And almost ready? And with the French specialists who remained in Mariupol? Then it’s clear why Macron is “spawning” ... Why helicopters are trying to break through there, and recently a ship ... And who pays them for this ... He doesn’t give a damn about mercenaries - they knew where and why they were going ... But civilian experts ... yes, shortly before the elections ...
    1. +1
      April 10 2022 20: 17
      walks info that under the manure steel biolaboratory.
      1. 0
        April 11 2022 19: 16
        Biolab with a bunch of staff. Yes, there is such information.
    2. +2
      April 11 2022 07: 27
      They say in the Mariupol cauldron there is a whole US general of French origin, and even some relatives of Macron’s wife, so he’s freaking out ... So there’s no smell of civilian foreign specialists there, there NATO military specialists are like dirt ...
  11. +6
    April 10 2022 20: 12
    For we are one people

    But this is just not the case - the inhabitants of the western part of that country, the Galicians, are not one people with Ukrainians and Russians, they are an artificially created nation by the Austro-Hungarian Empire, with a fierce hatred instilled by them both towards Ukrainians and Russians (Rusyns) , and which, during some two months of 2013-2014, brought the forty-millionth part of Ukraine to its knees before its idol Bandera, having managed in eight years, or maybe more, to reflash the brains of the Ukrainian people, and make him an ardent hater of Russia and her people. The main theme of the Author in this narrative sounds like "everything is lost", but for some reason the Author did not even try to say that the main forces of all these kar.nats.batov come from Western Ukraine, i.e. from Galicia, the homeland of the SS division Galicia, remember how these "Aidars", "Azovs", "Right Sector", etc., who, a week after the start of the Maidan, went to Kyiv in whole echelons, replacing students and schoolchildren there, and crushed all of Ukraine, and unleashed a civil war in the Donbass for his "disobedience", and now we do not need to throw our guys to the slaughter, but start shelling and bombing Galicia itself, this kubla, from where the vast majority of these monsters were born, and then all these "brothers" will rush there to defend their "khatynki" and mountain meadows, and there we should not have any pity and lisping for the local residents, and fence off Poland from Galicia with tactical nuclear weapons strikes along the western perimeter of the border, so that the whole world knows that we, for the sake of our Motherland, are ready for anything, because it may be that suddenly NATO with Japan, Turkey and others will pounce on Russia and tear it to pieces, and then the inhabitants of our country will envy the dead , as the Author said, and this not empty words.
    1. -4
      April 10 2022 20: 20
      it is noticeable that you are one "people" with shingle and iron ore ... give them nuclear weapons for the civilian population.
      1. +8
        April 10 2022 20: 58
        Quote: Just Cat
        give him nuclear weapons to the civilian population.

        And you get to this "civilian" population of Galicia, there they will cut your stomach, and cut your throat, and bury you alive in the ground, or even put you on a stake - all the "pleasures", and, mind you, for free.
        1. -2
          April 10 2022 21: 08
          Dolgy Viktor Vyacheslavovich, date of birth 11.06.1968/XNUMX/XNUMX, Ternopil region, Borshchiv district, Skala-Podolskaya village.
          For a long time he lived in Dimitrov, Donetsk region, worked at the mine. Artilleryman from the "Kalmius" battalion.

          A militiaman with the call sign Khokhol is a former history teacher from Western Ukraine who joined the ranks of supporters of Novorossiya

          etc.
          1. 0
            April 11 2022 08: 03
            Well, yes, well, yes ..... That's just who is fighting back so fiercely from our guys, probably the reflashed residents of the Belgorod region, Rostov region and the Kuban Cossacks?
            1. -1
              April 11 2022 09: 06
              it is noticeable how they "fight back" where there is no human shield of hostages ... Only a crest can turn the Rostov region into usury ....
              1. -1
                April 11 2022 11: 05
                And I live in this region, and I often hear shelling of our region by your "brothers", and you do not have enough geographical literacy.
                1. -2
                  April 11 2022 11: 32
                  ask the administrator what kind of crests are my brothers... my great-grandfather was a professor at the Novocherkassk Polytechnic University, so don't tell me stories about the Rostov region.
                  1. -1
                    April 11 2022 13: 15
                    Let's not touch each other, and even more so on the principle of "himself d ....", and do not go into my comments, commenting on them, you are not at all interesting to me.
  12. 0
    April 10 2022 20: 20
    God bless if that's the case. They break with all their might.
    But why, why - still not cut off the supply routes from the west?
    Is it really such a prohibitive task to break all the railway junctions and roads on the border or immediately after it?
    1. +5
      April 11 2022 05: 35
      Oh, and imagine that at the moment the entire gas transportation system of Ukraine is working and we are supplying gas to enemies and no one will make a single bullet hole in these pipes, either from our side or from the fascist side. There seems to be a blood business here.
  13. 0
    April 10 2022 20: 29
    Your words would be in God's ears
  14. +5
    April 10 2022 20: 29
    Bury everyone. The more we bury, the less then they will shoot us in the back. What do you think, having been captured, how will he be re-educated? Ha ha ha. Five years pass and the same thing happens again. The conclusion is to dispose of as much as possible.
  15. 123
    +4
    April 10 2022 20: 52
    I have nothing against your position hi but we disagree on a number of points.
    1) No existence of Russia is at stake there, this is a clear exaggeration inspired by faith in the wisdom of the dead Pole Brzezinski. I will tell you more, watching what is happening, I am inclined to believe that it was rather a preventive strike on a grouping ready to attack in the Donbass, which at the same time prevented the deployment of foreign military bases. And no more. It is difficult to justify the choice of the start time of the operation for other reasons. Indeed, for example, there is still a year left before the same "water blockade" of Donbass.
    It is important to understand that the decision to start was made not guided by emotions, they say you got it, get it and sign it. This is not a family strife, where the ex-wife in the condemned apartment beats the family services and wears out the bed bought with her own blood and assembled with her own hands, while speaking impartially to the ex-spouse. It doesn't work that way at the state level, it's a mistake to endow politicians with human emotions. Decisions are made collectively, motives and reasons are extremely far from everyday logic.
    I’ll tell you more, the task at least there has already been completed, at the same time some secondary goals have been achieved, for example:
    - there will be no attack on Donbass;
    - There will be no NATO bases;
    - biolaboratories are closed;
    - the prospect of creating missile weapons and nuclear weapons (the rogue version of a dirty bomb) is put to rest.
    - Grain, metal and other resources are not supplied to the EU, Turkey, and are now controlled by Russia. By the way, as well as the import of necessary goods to Russia.
    In my opinion, even if they now announce that no further advance of the troops is foreseen in order to avoid the number of victims, then absolutely nothing will happen in Russia. Of course, there will be quite a few dissatisfied people demanding to immediately reach the Carpathians, they will be indignant, but nothing more.
    2) Thesis - there is a bloody battle ahead in which we are at war with ourselves, and therefore we lost in advance does not work.
    - the operation did not begin with a sudden massive strike on the barracks, they did not try to inflict maximum damage immediately. Moreover, they tried to negotiate with the "field commanders" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Such a position did not find understanding, the positions are extremely clear, in the trenches opposite the enemies and weapons they are not going to lay down.
    - it seems that the opposite side does not believe that they are at war with themselves, and therefore it will be a naive delusion for us to think so. The Armed Forces of Ukraine and other paramilitary collective farms are not a pioneer camp, tea people, all adults should understand that these are not games. This is an armed force hostile to us, ready to kill, and not only in the Donbass. In my opinion, it makes no sense to mess around with overgrown children in camouflage and with machine guns. Now they will be disposed of. The logic of war is harsh, there are enemies, they do not surrender, therefore they are subject to destruction. At the same time, it is a mistake to rush and pay for the urgency with the lives of your soldiers. They will be methodically processed into minced meat. Maybe only in the process someone will grow wiser to pacifism and decide that in captivity it is calmer and more satisfying.
    3) It is pointless to measure the success of the operation by square kilometers conquered per day. At the initial stage, they tried to go through with a quick march, it didn’t work out, the plans were adjusted. The number of troops involved is not sufficient for the classic front-line operations of the Second World War, there is not even a numerical advantage. The forces involved are simply not enough even to control the reclaimed territory. It's just that the police in peaceful Russia have more than 500 employees per 100 thousand of the population, in Belarus 900. If you want, you can calculate the need. From here a simple and in my opinion obvious conclusion. The elephant is big, this carcass will be eaten in parts. Now tusks stuck in the Donbass are being cut.
    There is no reason to hurry to complete the operation as soon as possible by a certain date.
    Time is now working for us. The military potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been seriously undermined, and it is problematic to restore it to its previous levels. Ensuring the vital activity of citizens throughout the country cannot be shifted to Russia, Kyiv is forced to deal with this in its area of ​​​​responsibility, and since there are problems with this, the support of the regime by the population will obviously decrease. All sorts of sanctions are probably no less than for us, and they certainly hit Europe harder. So the position of smiling and waving, conducting stupid negotiations and demonstrating peacefulness, has the right to life.
    Another thing is that it is not popular, many do not like it, they want quick victories and beautiful parades, but that's it.
    Something like this hi
    1. +1
      April 10 2022 21: 25
      At the same time, it is a mistake to rush and pay for the urgency with the lives of your soldiers.

      Do you think those who sit in Khokhlyatsky cities without money and food are interested in the lives of Russian soldiers? They were interested in the lives of the inhabitants of Donbass when they made tanks for the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
      "Your shirt is closer to the body"
      1. 123
        +1
        April 10 2022 21: 36
        Do you think those who sit in Khokhlyatsky cities without money and food are interested in the lives of Russian soldiers? They were interested in the lives of the inhabitants of Donbass when they made tanks for the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
        "Your shirt is closer to the body"

        Nothing like that I think No. I think that they want something to eat, sometimes to wash, occasionally use electricity. When this is not provided, the shirt gradually sticks tightly to the unwashed empty belly, discontent increases.
        A small bonus about heroes. The most curious since 9 minutes. To understand and to forgive. sad

        1. 0
          April 10 2022 21: 54
          The inhabitants of Donbass, who were sitting in the basements, also wanted to wash themselves... and I have already seen enough of these "bonuses" about animals in the telegram. there already rotting carcasses do not wash out.
    2. +1
      April 11 2022 04: 06
      That's right!
      It's amazing how such an accurate comment was left without an assessment of the voters ..
    3. 0
      April 11 2022 05: 30
      Brzezinski was Jewish. Polish Jew...
      1. 123
        0
        April 11 2022 10: 09
        Brzezinski was Jewish. Polish Jew...

        Maybe so, I don't know. It does not change the essence of the matter.
    4. GIS
      +1
      April 11 2022 08: 59
      good, detailed answer. Thank you
    5. -1
      April 11 2022 10: 20
      No existence of Russia is at stake there, this is a clear exaggeration inspired by faith in the wisdom of the dead Pole Brzezinski.

      Let me ask you a question that interests me seriously.
      If the existence of Russia is really not at stake in Ukraine, which I agree with, then WHERE is it put at stake? WHERE and IN WHAT are we now actively opposing the military offensive of the West against Russia, PREVENTING it?
      I don't see it anywhere. Given the scale of the West's preparations for an attack on our borders and the obvious need to pre-empt them - somewhere it SHOULD be?
      Are we waiting for them to gather all their forces? What for?
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        April 11 2022 19: 05
        Let me ask you a question that interests me seriously.
        If the existence of Russia is really not at stake in Ukraine, which I agree with, then WHERE is it put at stake? WHERE and IN WHAT are we now actively opposing the military offensive of the West against Russia, PREVENTING it?
        I don't see it anywhere. Given the scale of the West's preparations for an attack on our borders and the obvious need to pre-empt them - somewhere it SHOULD be?
        Are we waiting for them to gather all their forces? What for?

        The question is interesting. It is unlikely that he, as they say, on my salary, but I'll try.
        After all, you are interested in the military-technical sphere and on a global scale, did I understand correctly? It looks like this from my couch.
        1) In my opinion, a global nuclear war is not expected on the horizon. The United States does not have superiority guaranteeing a favorable outcome of the conflict for them. The option when we are in heaven, and they just die is unlikely to look attractive to them.
        2) They rather warm their souls with the option of a preventive massive strike with conventional weapons. To do this, they need to deploy missile weapons along the perimeter of our borders, and in an amount that guarantees the destruction of the nuclear missile shield, reducing the potential to values ​​that do not allow a retaliatory strike. For this, missile weapons must be massive and preferably hypersonic in order to minimize the time for preparing a retaliatory strike. If they have information about successful tests of hypersonic weapons, then there is no talk of mass entry into service yet. Secretly accumulating such a potential will not work, and what the reaction to such attempts will be made clear is not ambiguous. So the likelihood of such a development of events is not yet great.
        3) All this "military offensive" and "preparation for an attack on our borders" are either attempts to get that very overwhelming advantage on the sly, but rather, they are trying to organize low-intensity conflicts along the border perimeter.
        In general, these are conflicts, so to speak, of the "third level". They are used for political and economic pressure.
        In my opinion, the main confrontation on a global scale is now taking place in the economic and financial plane. The US and the EU received such a cuff on the back of the head that the crown flew off and hung on the ear. We are talking about the basis of their well-being, the global financial system. Their currencies go from privileged to common like everyone else. Now they have rising prices and inflation like ordinary people. This is in the long term a decline in living standards, discontent of the population, and simply big problems in the economy. Right now they are saying their loud fi, showing how they are not satisfied with our behavior. They inject lop-eared boobies and try to stay out of it. This is how they make life difficult for us, justify economic pressure and at the same time use it to justify the problems that have arisen in our own economy.
        What you call waiting until they "gather their forces" is actually preventing the conflict from escalating. We are not interested in this, time is on our side, a wave of problems in the economy is growing in them, so conflicts stronger than the current one are not expected in Ukraine. There will be no Ukraine, there is Poland, for them it is not important. Why did they fatten the Polish boar for so many years. And here problems are brewing with feed, and the pig is used to the feeder, it demands its own. Here, an impudent bastard may well be put under the knife. Something like that. And the global battle of all times and peoples is not visible on the horizon, there will be a quiet tedious positional struggle. Sticking a fork into the thigh of a neighbor under the table or kicking on the shin, and at the same time they will smile at each other pretending that there is nothing to do with it.
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          April 11 2022 19: 26
          and still, for the United States, the main enemy is China, whatever one may say. They do not want to fight with us unambiguously.
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            April 11 2022 20: 14
            and still, for the United States, the main enemy is China, whatever one may say. They do not want to fight with us unambiguously.

            I take it this is addressed to me? China is undoubtedly a more powerful opponent in the economy for them, but the fact is that their economy and finance are very interconnected. Very much they have grown into each other, rubani in one place will go to both. And Russia is not an enemy for them, rather even an enemy, impudent, spitting in the "authoritative" arrogant red face. Our trade is at a minimum, as we get rid of the dollar, we generally diverge in the world ocean in parallel courses. This is probably what pisses them off the most. They play bosses, they set the rules, and here it is. Well, who would like that?
            And they probably do not want a direct conflict either with us or with China. They are not ready for it. In addition, Russia helped the Chinese comrades with the organization of a missile attack warning system.
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          April 11 2022 21: 32
          Thanks for the detailed answer.
          Basically I agree with you. The current raid serves the purpose not to start a war with us, but rather to thoroughly "pinch" us economically and politically, to create, figuratively speaking, a "furnace" in which we will be forced to burn our resources, gaining time for this:

          ... attempts on the sly to get that very overwhelming advantage ...

          I do not think that our move to demand security guarantees from them was far-fetched and premature. The movement of their infrastructure towards us is obvious, and anticipation takes time. Now they have announced new target parameters for their presence on our borders, which will probably already allow them to count on:

          deployment of missile weapons along the perimeter of our borders, moreover, in an amount guaranteeing the destruction of the nuclear missile shield, reducing the potential to values ​​that do not allow a retaliatory strike

          What worries me is that we are again quietly giving them this extra time they need to accommodate all this, allowing them to choose this backlash. After all, this reserve can be very useful for us to respond. In addition, each of their placement steps will really complicate our situation.
          I see this concession in a series of previous ones and I ask the question - isn't it better for us to do now what we still have to do when they are fully ready? Get them to abandon their plans even before posting it all. We still have to face them. I do not believe that they will collapse economically earlier, that you can count on their corpse floating along the river.
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            April 12 2022 03: 33
            I agree with your conclusions hi Russia's stability has always been ensured by large-scale military victories, which determine the state of opponents as "exhausting, subconscious horror" for some time. Maximum 50 years. Then they began to dodge and it turned out to gnaw Russia from the inside. In the current situation, their serious advantage in conventional weapons, primarily quantitatively, and the population, the question, in general, has come to the fore. Our society, corrupted by 30 years of liberal-clan capitalism, with a Byzantine bias, is far from being a monolith. In fact, the notorious fifth column is half of the country's population. Of course, not all active, but which side will she choose when it becomes completely bad, in terms of the level and quality of life.
            Colleague 123 very convincingly built the situation. But if we assume in this construction that there are no politicians in the Kremlin at all, in the classical sense of the word, but a brigade of wrestlers who won the fight for the pipe in the 90-00s already somehow in wisdom and multi-movement, one cannot believe it. Gas to this day, pumped through the GTS, the outskirts suggests these thoughts. There is no clear plan there and tearing the umbilical cord with the world bourgeoisie seems to be out of their hands. And in the Russian Federation, collapse is on the verge. It is impossible to create in a short time what was destroyed by the collapse of the USSR. It is naive to hope that someone will replace everything that came from behind the western hillock. The same Chinese are only pursuing their own benefit. Always. Only yours. And the umbilical cord with P and nd will be thicker.
            And then, the special war of the Russian Federation, stretched out for years, will not pull. We don't have time to eat an elephant's carcass for a long time, not at all. It will be bad for Europe, but there will be no serious problems behind the puddle. We have no methods to make them very painful. So locally that a mosquito bite. We don’t have any ideological platform to swing a flower garden there, like in the 91st, and small vzbryki will crush. Not the first time.
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              April 12 2022 13: 44
              Thank you for your appreciation. hi Let's talk about contentious issues Yes

              Colleague 123 very convincingly built the situation. But if in this construction we allow, that in the Kremlin there are not politicians at all, in the classical sense of the word, but a brigade of wrestlers who won the fight for the pipe in the 90-00s already somehow in wisdom and multi-move, I can’t believe it. Gas to this day, pumped through the GTS, the outskirts suggests these thoughts. There is no clear plan there and tearing the umbilical cord with the world bourgeoisie seems to be out of their hands. And in the Russian Federation, collapse is on the verge.

              Let's start with what you want to infer from the assumptions. Probably all the same, it will be right to do them on the basis of facts and an assessment of the real state of affairs.
              So, you blame them for pumping gas through a wild field. You can probably stop, probably first you should see what we will achieve with this.
              - a humanitarian catastrophe in Ukraine itself, including territories loyal to Russia and controlled by Russian troops
              - Moldova will not receive gas (which is not so important), Transnistria will not receive it either (do we need it?). The Slovaks and Romanians (figs with them), as well as Hungary, will not receive it yet. We have a lot of complaints about her. Do you want to punish them? Probably technically it is somehow possible to supply selectively, to some consumers, but for this it is necessary to control the entire GTS of Ukraine, and this is still difficult to implement.
              So it turns out that by shutting off the gas, we are treating everyone with the same brush, not really thinking about the consequences, we are likened to the headless Baltic limitrophes, acting to spite us without thinking about anything.
              In my opinion, the thesis that "collapse is on the threshold in the Russian Federation" is, in my opinion, rather controversial.
              In general, I'm sorry hi , but the version of the pronounced critenism of the "Kremlin wrestlers' brigade" does not find confirmation request Not convincing No.

              It is impossible to create in a short time what was destroyed by the collapse of the USSR. It is naive to hope that someone will replace everything that came from behind the western hillock. The same Chinese are only pursuing their own benefit. Always. Only yours. And the umbilical cord with P and nd will be thicker.

              I completely agree with you Yes don't do everything quickly. I will say more, attempts to do something in the West are not welcome. You have to somehow get out and do everything not so clearly and gradually. You are saying that the Chinese are pursuing their own benefit, while noting the strength of the umbilical cord with penguins. I will add that the umbilical cord with the EU is no less strong for them. Our situation is somewhat different, with Europe it is much stronger than with "Zaluzh". Now I wonder why for us and the Chinese there are different recipes for moving towards a brighter future. For them, it means that profit is important, and we need to immediately cut off all ties with the bourgeoisie. Moreover, our break with Europe is clearly in the interests of the United States. Is pragmatism alien to us? Do we strive to do better for ourselves or in spite of everything worse for them?

              And then, the special war of the Russian Federation, stretched out for years, will not pull. We don't have time to eat an elephant's carcass for a long time, not at all. It will be bad for Europe, but there will be no serious problems behind the puddle. We have no methods to make them very painful. So locally that a mosquito bite. We don’t have any ideological platform to swing a flower garden there, like in the 91st, and small vzbryki will crush. Not the first time.

              Are you suggesting swallowing the elephant whole and at once, regardless of the losses? Well, suppose we reached the Polish border. What's next? What will it bring us besides a sense of moral satisfaction? Are you worried about your digestive tract? With all this, something will have to be done. How to restore, improve life, and with accelerated movement, everything will turn into "Mariupol". On the outer contour, everything will remain the same, because Ukraine is not a reason, but only an excuse for all sorts of sanctions and restrictions.
              I'm sorry, but the arguments about the need to immediately force events, no matter what, did not convince me No.
              As for civil wars and other unrest, they are not an end in themselves for us. It is enough for us to squeeze out our share in the clearing, so that we get the sun too. And what do they have there, the tenth thing. Shriveled, blown away to real size and let them grumble as they want.
              I will say more, they hardly plan to storm Washington, at most Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok and then not by military force. And let the zaluzhniks solve their issues with the Chinese comrades. They accumulated there in order, there is something to talk about. We are not against the Stolypins "give Russia 20 years". Something like this hi
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            April 12 2022 11: 19
            By allowing the West to advance and gain a foothold on our borders, we drastically reduce our chances of then using threats to force it to retreat. Too much already they will then be at stake. Too much appetite. Too many of their interests are concretized in the final plans.
            I see an exponential "scale" here. The difficulty of forcing them to retreat with threats will increase exponentially.
            The problem is that they also see this very "scale". From their point of view - if we now (when it is still possible) cannot force them to retreat - then we will not do this at all.
            Waiting for the corpse of the enemy in the river, for Russia, is a demonstration to this enemy of its weakness and humility before fate.
            So, if we want to survive, THREATS THEM WITH THE REAL DESTRUCTION OF OUR nuclear weapons and demand a retreat to the positions of 97, the removal of the transport blockade and all sanctions, we need NOW.
            The states are NOT READY both to wage a nuclear war on their territory and to die as part of mutual destruction
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              April 12 2022 12: 57
              So the second part (continued)
              Summary:

              We document the decline in the dollar share of international reserves since the turn of the century. This decline reflects active portfolio diversification by central bank reserve managers; it is not a by-product of changes in exchange rates and interest rates, the accumulation of reserves by a small handful of central banks with large and idiosyncratic balance sheets, or changes in the coverage of reserve composition surveys. surprisingly, but the decline in the share of the dollar was not accompanied by an increase in the share of the pound sterling, the yen and the euro, other long-standing reserve currencies and units, which, along with the dollar, historically constituted the IMF's Special Drawing Rights. . Quicker, the transition from dollars was in two directions: on quarter to chinese yuanand three quarters in the currencies of smaller countries, which played a more limited role as reserve currencies. Thus, the evolution of the international reserve system over the past 20 years is characterized by a continuing retreat from the dollar, recent though still a modest rise in the role of the yuan, as well as changes in market liquidity, relative returns and improved reserve management. attractiveness of non-traditional reserve currencies. These observations provide insight into how the international system might evolve in the future.. relative returns and reserve management increase the attractiveness of non-traditional reserve currencies. These observations provide insight into how the international system may evolve in the future. relative returns and reserve management increase the attractiveness of non-traditional reserve currencies. These observations provide insight into how the international system may evolve in the future.

              So the role of the dollar is declining, it is being replaced not so much by the yuan or all sorts of Canada and Australia, but by those same "smaller countries" like Russia or India. These are the same mutual settlements in their currencies. Recently, the process has clearly accelerated, hence the exacerbations. Well, the gentlemen are nervous, they are uncomfortable when the wallet is at risk.
              further with some abbreviations, it turns out to be too long, the document itself is at the link:
              https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2022/03/24/The-Stealth-Erosion-of-Dollar-Dominance-Active-Diversifiers-and-the-Rise-of-Nontraditional-515150

              Borrowing exceeds the United States' share of trade, international bond issuance, and cross-border borrowing and lending. Dominance currency was resilient in the face of a declining US share of global GDP. Dollar dominance survived the collapse of Bretton Woods, while its stocks international debt and non-bank loans have risen even more since the global financial crisis.
              Influential articles claim that the dollar was the dominant international currency. default. The lack of alternatives allowed him to dominate the international markets for financing, trade, and foreign exchange reserves.. Other currencies suffer from inadequate supply investment-grade government securities that investors can hold as safe assets and central banks can accumulate as reserves. They do not benefit from a large installed base of dollar-denominated transactions. Therefore, they lack the complementarity and synergy of various cross-border uses in the interests of the dollar.

              So the role of the US in the global economy is declining, the share of the dollar in reserves is not keeping up with the changes, the world economy is unwell from this. The process of bringing the "money supply" in line with the real state of affairs is unpleasant and painful for the United States.

              share of US dollars in central bank reserves has fallen 12 percentage points since the turn of the century, from 71 percent in 1999 to 59 percent in 2021 year.

              In the picture on the left, the US share in world GDP (in blue at par, in red at PPP), on the right is the US share in world trade (blue graph) and the share of dollar settlements in international trade (red graph).


              A clear imbalance, the role of the United States in world GDP, world trade clearly does not correspond to the role of the dollar in calculations and reserves. The system is not stable, therefore, to maintain it in this state, much more effort is required, and it is much easier to balance it. Only the United States and hangers-on are interested in maintaining the current state of affairs (see the list of unfriendly countries).

              There is an opinion that this

              moving towards a more multi-polar (multi-currency) international monetary-reserve system.

              So it turns out that we need a balancing of this system, "equalization of pressure in communicating vessels" and nothing more. We do not need any kind of war, we (and most countries) agree to let everything go on the brakes, to smoothly blow off this bubble.
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                April 12 2022 14: 28
                Thanks for this interesting information.
                She talks about the operation of the system in its "traditional" state.
                What will happen to the share of the dollar in the conditions of "pre-war expectations" of the world? When forecasts of guaranteed stability of currencies will shift towards the dollar.
                Nothing follows from the fact that we and the world do not need war. The question is what is needed and beneficial for the States.
                Perhaps they need "pre-war expectations". As a bonus - a wave of "before" and "re" weapons from their allies. Like a cherry on the cake - the conquered Russia is a step from the conquest of China.
                What they really don't want is a nuclear war.
                In turn, THREATING HER is our only leverage to stop them AT A SAFE DISTANCE. They themselves will not stop AND WILL NOT GIVE US TO BUILD THEIR WELFARE AND FUTURE
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                  April 12 2022 15: 13
                  What will happen to the share of the dollar in the conditions of "pre-war expectations" of the world? When forecasts of guaranteed stability of currencies will shift towards the dollar.

                  And with what fright will they shift towards the dollar? These are their expectations, how they correspond to reality is a big question. "Pre-war expectations" imply the presence of at least two opposing sides in the future. For one of the parties, the dollar as a "safe haven" is not acceptable. In addition, rising inflation, if I'm not mistaken already at 8,4%, makes it less attractive.

                  Nothing follows from the fact that we and the world do not need war. The question is what is needed and beneficial for the States.

                  We have different interests, let's see who will achieve his goal. What is profitable and necessary for the states should be our last concern.

                  Perhaps they need "pre-war expectations". As a bonus - a wave of "before" and "re" weapons from their allies. Like a cherry on the cake - the conquered Russia is a step from the conquest of China.
                  What they really don't want is a nuclear war.
                  In turn, THREATING HER is our only leverage to stop them AT A SAFE DISTANCE. They themselves will not stop AND WILL NOT GIVE US TO BUILD THEIR WELFARE AND FUTURE

                  Naturally, they interfered with us, interfere and will interfere. There is nothing new in this.
                  We have more than one lever, probably it is also not necessary to hammer nails with a microscope. there are other tools.
                  In general, the important question is how correctly you assess the current situation, considering that we are squeezed into a corner and we can only brush off a nuclear shovel. In my opinion, this is some exaggeration, inspired by excessive pressure in the information space hi
                  So I want to quote the "classics".

                  Be sure to bang Yes The whole world is in dust fellow But then Yes
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            April 12 2022 12: 04
            The current raid serves the purpose not to start a war with us, but rather to thoroughly "pinch" us economically and politically, to create, figuratively speaking, a "furnace" in which we will be forced to burn our resources, gaining time for this:
            ... attempts on the sly to get that very overwhelming advantage

            Exactly Yes this is precisely the policy of containment. In January, growth of 6,6% and in February Ukraine. Moreover, growth is not paper due to debts and money printing, but real production growth.
            https://riarating.ru/macroeconomics/20220305/630218412.html

            A variant in which the Kremlin looks at these figures with wide eyes and declares in a trembling voice - something needs to be done about this and immediately! And immediately (in the intercom) call Sergei Kozhugetovich to me, it seems to me unlikely and rather fantastic. I hope not only me. Russia is not interested in aggravation, everything suits us, no war is needed, it is being imposed on us.

            What worries me is that we are again quietly giving them this extra time they need to accommodate all this, allowing them to choose this backlash. After all, this reserve can be very useful for us to respond. In addition, each of their placement steps will really complicate our situation.
            I see this concession in a series of previous ones and I ask the question - isn't it better for us to do now what we still have to do when they are fully ready? Get them to abandon their plans even before posting it all. We still have to face them.

            And why did you decide that they are inferior and given a margin of time? Do you think that they put rockets along the perimeter of the borders, and we sit and watch? But it is not. And what do you suggest? Hit them now so that they would wipe themselves off and know their place? Well, the "limited" conflict between Russia and Europe is just a US dream.
            - weakening of Russia (I think it is not necessary to explain why).
            - weakening Europe and increasing dependence on the United States. The EU industry is in ruins, there is practically no competitor, the need for supplies from overseas is growing. (some analogies with the period of World War II).
            - the weakening of China (the EU is their largest trading partner, the vacant place will be occupied by the United States).
            Well, why do we need all this?
            Do not consider it impolite or something like that, there is nothing like that in my thoughts hi , but in my opinion you overreact emotionally to all sorts of statements. The same Stoltenberg declares that he will move NATO to the east and we are boiling. And who is he? The dog is stinking, he was put on a chain to the podium, and he barks as he should according to his position. People in the caravan need to take this bark more calmly, like background noise.

            I do not believe that they will collapse economically earlier, that you can count on their corpse floating along the river.

            I'm not sure that we need ruins, they will collapse, they won't collapse The tenth question, it's more important for us to squeeze out our glade under the sun. Well, why do we need a corpse on the ruins near our fence? And I don’t believe that the corpse will appear overseas sooner, in my opinion they are more stable, both economically and militarily, and therefore the Europeans will be the first to be scrapped. Well, what for us? Put a flag on the ruins and raise the next Polish (____ you can add others) little brothers from the ashes?
            As for the economy, rather finance, let me throw you one more comment, stupidly machine translation of the discussion in the IMF. Just the introduction and the beginning of the document, I will highlight the interesting points. Just read, think about the prospects for how it will develop.
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              April 12 2022 13: 03
              And what do you suggest? Hit them now so that they would wipe themselves off and know their place? Well, the "limited" conflict between Russia and Europe is just a US dream.

              And where did you find this "hit" on me?
              I'm talking about a threat with a willingness to strike.
              Forcing the enemy to retreat with the threat of the use of weapons is a completely workable technique.
              Nikita Sergeevich succeeded with the Americans - why can't we succeed?

              And why did you decide that they are inferior and given a margin of time? Do you think that they put rockets along the perimeter of the borders, and we sit and watch?

              If I understood you correctly, can we secretly prepare means from the enemy to repel his attack, allowing him to take the necessary lines for it? That's bullshit. You yourself understand.
              Usually the enemy seeks, as early as possible, to inform about the futility of his encroachments. If we saw their response to this: indecision, change of plans - I would agree. The problem is that the enemy himself does not see these obstacles invented by you - rushing with redoubled enthusiasm.
              Even his intelligence does not see this, not to mention that it has not been demonstrated to him.
              The conclusion is simple:
              - it doesn't really exist
              - or these measures are inoperative in this situation
              -or their effectiveness and flexibility of use are not guaranteed as with missile weapons and bases along the perimeter of our borders
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                April 12 2022 14: 08
                And where did you find this "hit" on me?
                I'm talking about a threat with a willingness to strike.
                Forcing the enemy to retreat with the threat of the use of weapons is a completely workable technique.
                Nikita Sergeevich succeeded with the Americans - why can't we succeed?

                Didn't find it anywhere No. It was a question, just a guess.
                As I understand it, you propose to scare them like Khrushchev and move to Cuba immediately?
                Probably as an option it is acceptable, but too early. What will we demand? Promises not to post anything else? This is not serious. Require the output of what has already been posted? Well, this is not so critical, we have been living with this for a long time and the threat has not increased so much, as we stop it. It turns out we sharpen almost out of the blue. Theoretically, I have nothing against it, but the choice of the moment ... Why now? Because Stoltenberg barks especially zealously from the podium? So this is such a dog, this is his job.

                Usually the enemy seeks, as early as possible, to inform about the futility of his encroachments. If we saw their response to this: indecision, change of plans - I would agree. The problem is that the enemy himself does not see these obstacles invented by you - rushing with redoubled enthusiasm.
                Even his intelligence does not see this, not to mention that it has not been demonstrated to him.

                Well, let them know. As far as I remember, since the warning, nothing of the kind that was said has happened. No one was accepted into NATO, missiles near Riga were not instructed. Ukraine is being helped and incited? So there is nothing new in this, they shit quietly. Even in the post-war years, they helped the Bandera people, the Afghan Mujahideen, Georgians and others. The option with missiles in Cuba, even the Soviet state. did not occur to figures during the Afghan war.

                The conclusion is simple:
                - it doesn't really exist
                - or these measures are inoperative in this situation
                -or their effectiveness and flexibility of use are not guaranteed as with missile weapons and bases along the perimeter of our borders

                How did you imagine it? Putin read from the podium a list of what we do not like, they read it, packed their bags and across the ocean? That doesn't happen. We'll have to somehow gradually, weaken, squeeze out. The question is what methods. It looks like you are leaning towards an immediate radical escalation up to a nuclear war.
                I repeat, time is on our side, we hardly need a big war hi
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                  April 12 2022 18: 19
                  We'll definitely bang. The whole world is in ruins. But then.

                  This is your entire position. The key word for you is "THAT".
                  Even if it's "MANDATORY".
                  Let's take everything from life while it's possible, and then we'll do it all at once - the "button" is always at hand:

                  The whole world is in dust

                  But I don’t want someone today to lay this “MANDATORY” in my and our future.
                  I want this someone to work professionally today, to do everything for this future to be. Even if for this it is necessary to take serious risks today.
                  You speak:

                  Putin read from the podium a list of what we do not like, they read it, packed their bags and across the ocean? That doesn't happen.

                  Will it be easier for us to force them to "gather coins" when they gather with all their strength at our borders? Wouldn't the number of their "suitcases" then become much larger.

                  We'll have to somehow gradually, weaken, squeeze out. The question is what methods.

                  That's right - "as it is."
                  Isn't it better not to retreat? instead of retreating, and then "gradually, loosen, squeeze out"?
                  Doesn't the unwillingness to "retreat" presuppose the greater unwillingness to "gradually, weaken, squeeze out"?

                  I repeat, time is on our side, we hardly need a big war

                  Are you serious? Under the conditions of total sanctions, the deprivation of a significant part of the reserves, the need for huge investments in pre-industrialization and import substitution, ensuring the conduct of the war with the West on the territory of Ukraine? Time works for us, not for the USA???

                  we hardly need a big war

                  The question is about how to prevent it in this "THAT" of yours. Do you consider it guaranteed:

                  We'll definitely bang. The whole world is in ruins. But then.
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                    April 12 2022 21: 38
                    It seems to me that there is no need to answer everything in detail. In fact, everything revolves around two points.
                    1) As I understand it, you want to force them to collect their belongings and dump them across the ocean. To do this, threaten a nuclear strike. I understand correctly? And what will happen if they don’t collect their belongings and leave? How are you going to avoid a big war in this case?
                    And please don't attribute to me the claim that war is inevitable or guaranteed. I meant that you should not get so excited, exaggerate the depth of the crisis and the seriousness of the current situation.
                    2) Yes, I think that time works for us. Despite the sanctions that you call total, although in reality they are not. The country is developing, the economy is growing, the volume of industrial production, food and so on is growing. Yes, not so fast, we are seriously hindered, restrained but not stopped.
                    Or do you think that the measure should be the attitude of the West towards us? Should they lift all sanctions? Are you accidentally going to force us to love and respect them with a nuclear bomb? Like, cancel everything and give us the most favored nation treatment, otherwise you will be Kuz'kin's mother? Or do you have other methods of persuasion in stock?
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                      April 12 2022 23: 00
                      And what will happen if they don’t collect their belongings and leave? How are you going to avoid a big war in this case?

                      We need to SUBJECTLY CONVINCE that we are ready to do it. How did Nikita do it? They WILL NOT die in a nuclear war, and lose "everything acquired by honest labor." If they don't think we're bluffing. This is what we need to exclude.
                      As for your first question, no way. If their offensive against us is not interrupted, we are finished. This is the same option - which Putin spoke about, I think not for the "red word" - when "we are in Paradise." The people believed these words. Seems weird, right? Do you know why? Because they are true. The same is true for most of our people.
                      We do not have the opportunity to outwit fate: and not risk our lives, and stop the Americans. Or or.

                      the country is developing, the economy is growing, the volume of industrial production, food and so on is growing. Yes, not so fast, we are seriously hindered, restrained but not stopped.

                      I think that it is still too early to draw such conclusions, even for the near future. There are no answers to many key questions now, and neither you nor I know what they will be. The sooner we get out of this "pit", the better. If we are destined to put forward an extreme ultimatum to the States, it is reasonable to include in it EVERYTHING that they have "overlaid" us with since 1997.

                      Should they lift all sanctions? Are you accidentally going to force us to love and respect them with a nuclear bomb? Like, cancel everything and give us the most favored nation treatment, otherwise you will be Kuz'kin's mother?

                      Exactly. Love - they can keep for themselves, but respect, maybe for the first time they have for us, and so it will appear when they have to obey. With them, you need only this, and their kindness is unnecessary for us, and they don’t have it.
                      Everything will go back to normal when we break this "Wishlist" of theirs
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                        April 13 2022 08: 09
                        We need to SUBJECTLY CONVINCE that we are ready to do it. How did Nikita do it? They WILL NOT die in a nuclear war, and lose "everything acquired by honest labor." If they don't think we're bluffing. This is what we need to exclude.
                        As for your first question, no way.

                        Just a brilliant plan to avoid war winked
                        Let's threaten them with a nuclear strike and let them knock them down, but if they don't, we'll hit them laughing Are you seriously? sad What does it mean to substantiate? Make a face like a maniac reading an ultimatum or knocking on the podium with a slipper?

                        If their offensive against us is not interrupted, we are finished.

                        In fact, it has stalled, they are not moving forward. Or do you mean that even in this case we are finished? We are exhausted, and if they don’t leave right now and stop it, then we’re done?

                        This is the same option - which Putin spoke about, I think not for the "red word" - when "we are in Paradise." The people believed these words. Seems weird, right? Do you know why? Because they are true. The same is true for most of our people.
                        We do not have the opportunity to outwit fate: and not risk our lives, and stop the Americans. Or or.

                        To be honest, not convinced No. I don’t presume to judge how the majority of our people see the situation, but I’m sure that it is not ready to melt in a nuclear flame for the sake of the “great goal” - to stop the Americans. This can and should be done in less radical ways. Are you sure you understood Putin correctly? Do you want to refresh the original source in your memory? It's all about retaliation.
                        In general, I do not agree to sing the Varyag, in Russia life is just beginning.



                        I think that it is still too early to draw such conclusions, even for the near future. There are no answers to many key questions now, and neither you nor I know what they will be. The sooner we get out of this "pit", the better. If we are destined to put forward an extreme ultimatum to the States, it is reasonable to include in it EVERYTHING that they have "overlaid" us with since 1997.

                        To be honest, I didn't understand you. What conclusions for the future are you talking about?
                        Do you think that it will be possible to determine whether the country is developing and whether the economy is growing only in the future? Can't you see the numbers now?
                        When will that moment come? By what signs will we determine that we have "climbed out of the hole"?
                        To be honest, in the coffin I saw such "extreme ultimatums", Russia is destined to live and develop, putting forward an ultimatum as the highest goal of the country's existence is stupidity. Too much honor for Penguinostan.

                        Exactly. Love - they can keep for themselves, but respect, maybe for the first time they have for us, and so it will appear when they have to obey. With them, you need only this, and their kindness is unnecessary for us, and they don’t have it.
                        Everything will go back to normal when we break this "Wishlist" of theirs

                        You have an interesting point of view. For many years they have been trying to force us to submit and for this they are striving for military superiority, and you want to subdue them without even bothering to do so? Just take on the weak? Say, do not obey and we are all a nuclear kirdyk? And if they don’t obey, then really kirdyk and burn it all with a blue flame, what for we have such a country and planet if the Americans do not obey us? I understand correctly?
                        Forgive me, but the subjugation of the United States as the highest goal and the raison d'être of the country is overkill, and an obvious one at that.
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                        April 13 2022 08: 41
                        In my opinion, you are in the crystal castle of the POSSIBLE and AVAILABLE (based on your own ideas), carefully protecting it from reality. It's useless. Outside, this FRAGILE castle surrounds the hard and merciless world of the NECESSARY.
                        This is how I perceive it. I won't bother you anymore
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        April 14 2022 11: 23
        Found my wording wrong:

        If the existence of Russia is really not at stake in Ukraine, which I agree with, then WHERE is it put at stake?

        Now in Ukraine ALREADY "the existence of Russia is at stake" and nothing can be done about it.
        The task of the enemy in Ukraine, among other things, is to force us to spend as much energy as possible. If we retreat, go on the offensive from its bridgehead.
        However, the enemy probably has other options at the ready to do so. For example - the Baltic states near Kaliningrad, or Japan. For him, the world did not converge like a wedge in Ukraine
    6. 0
      April 11 2022 16: 54
      Are we negotiating to the last Ukrainian?
    7. 0
      April 11 2022 19: 24
      agree 100%.
    8. 0
      April 12 2022 20: 52
      Brzezinski is monopenisual to me. But my opinion is this - if you get involved in a war, forget about any kind of regret. There is an enemy in front of you, and there is a TASK, Throw everything else away until better times. As for taking care of civilians - I have not yet seen more idiocy. Do you think they will appreciate our humanism? Hell no! Mark my words - in a couple of years, the screams of the surviving Svidomo will begin that it was we who did not let them enter the family of euro3,14dors! In addition, it was the population of kaklostan that brought this clique to power. Remember how kakly shouted, they say, why didn’t you defend the USSR? We famously gulped ours to the end, not slandering anyone - now it's the turn of the kaklof. They swallow their grief, become people - their happiness. Not? Well, there is no trial, so they are destined to disappear.
  16. 0
    April 10 2022 21: 08
    Everything can be ... Your words are yes to God in the ears)))
  17. +2
    April 10 2022 21: 13
    I watched a report, just boys in an armored car. Life and health to you ... The rest of faith and patience.
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      April 11 2022 08: 56
      almost the entire country is watching. at the very tears sometimes well up.
      but there are also such people (especially I met a lot in VK) - I just want to flog them and send them to the restoration of the republics of the DPR and LPR
  18. +1
    April 10 2022 21: 28
    Regarding the delegation of Medinsky, I personally have the opinion that this is a team of clowns to create a picture that Russia is ready to conduct a dialogue with Banderlogs. Well, who are Medinsky, and even more so, Abramovich in politics.
  19. 0
    April 10 2022 22: 41
    I would like to believe in the conclusions of the author of this article.
  20. +2
    April 10 2022 23: 17
    I don't understand something
    Are we running out of bombs? Then the devil was unprepared to start
    For 10 days we sit in the trenches and smoke, and the bag is continuously day and night, bombing 500 kg and vacuum bombs, pinocchio and heavy mortars, hyacinths and other artillery without rest. And no rockets, they will be needed for another
    Well, and then with flamethrowers, but with God's help on the attack
    What's the problem, I don't understand
    It is necessary, introduce martial law and general mobilization in the country
    We will understand..
    1. 0
      April 11 2022 00: 45
      Not one you do not understand. It seems like a bunch of generals in mine defense understand only now, and this ....
  21. +2
    April 10 2022 23: 44
    The operation near Kiev also did its job. It caused panic in Kyiv and other cities. Mass migration to Europe is also the merit of our paratroopers in Gostomel.
  22. +1
    April 10 2022 23: 55
    If Russia bombs every factory in Ukraine and destroys the rest of the economic and communications infrastructure, it will win the war, and cheaply.
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      April 11 2022 19: 27
      yeah, and then we will restore it all once and twice after that, no people of Ukraine will be there for us.
  23. +3
    April 11 2022 00: 41
    We sit, watch, wait, we are sure of victory ..... but we are nervous ..
  24. +2
    April 11 2022 03: 22
    If Russia does not take Ukraine completely, then the shelling will not stop, gifts will also arrive in Russia, the longer we wait, the more weapons Kyiv receives
  25. -2
    April 11 2022 03: 43
    Author, calm down.
    Don't overstrain.
    The forecast of military events is not yours.
    There will be no battle.
    The APU will simply mow down remotely, step by step, gradually, and slowly.
    So take a sedative, and do not pump out of the blue ..
  26. +2
    April 11 2022 06: 27
    Quote from powerday
    Author, calm down.
    Don't overstrain.
    The forecast of military events is not yours.
    There will be no battle.
    The APU will simply mow down remotely, step by step, gradually, and slowly.
    So take a sedative, and do not pump out of the blue ..

    Smart guys like you have been writing similar garbage for 8 years. So why didn’t they mow down everyone with Caliber and Daggers remotely after February 24, when it came down to it? Maybe everything is more complicated than it seems to armchair strategists?
  27. +3
    April 11 2022 07: 19
    Medinsky, in general, is a very dubious person ... If he is such a fan of the white movement, then he would put a memorial plaque at least to General Denikin, who showed himself well in the Russian-Japanese and in the First World War and refused to serve Hitler, and not Mannerheim's Hitler six .. As for all these negotiations and retreats, we didn’t see such pearls in the First Chechen War, and not at all because we didn’t have enough strength to defeat the militants back then and everyone who served there then knows it well ... The same Chernomyrdin posted orders at Ukrainian enterprises, to the detriment of domestic production, not at all out of love for the Russian Federation ... and alas, this one ... was not alone ... from here all the problems ... from the Ukrainian lobby in the government and economic circles of the Russian Federation, with which the Russian Federation needs to resolve the issue in the first place, entrusting this to the FSB ... No one has yet canceled the article for treason in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ...
  28. +2
    April 11 2022 08: 10
    To the author: there are two stable expressions - "gritting your teeth" and "reluctantly."
    A person who is fond of journalism should know them.
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    April 11 2022 08: 53
    Not for this, he started his SVO, in order to turn it off halfway.

    God forbid that it be so, and internal enemies did not interfere with him
  30. 0
    April 11 2022 09: 43
    But it’s true, when the capture of Mariupol was stopped 8 years ago, I personally didn’t even think that the matter was precisely in the safety of ordinary residents of Donbass! Of course, I am not a strategist or even a military man, and I admire the wisdom of such a decision!
    1. +1
      April 11 2022 13: 40
      Quote: Krasnoyarets
      that the matter is precisely in the safety of ordinary residents of Donbass!

      And here everything is very vague and slippery about TOT Mariupol - yesterday they showed video clips of the release of sailors from dry cargo ships captured by the national battalions, and the reporter leading this topic showed the sea terminal live on air, clogged with huge spools of sheet metal and other products of this plant, and bluntly stated that all this production was the reason that we did not take THEN an already empty city, but simply had an "agreement" with the co-owners of this plant Akhmetov, Kolomoisky, Abramovich and others. Leave Mariupol behind Ukraine, and not send DPR troops there - and this is his almost verbatim speech, and before that I have heard more than once about the same thing from the lips of our high politicians, that this is a commercial and political decision, and the city was, after all, free from all military formations of Ukraine, which at that time all fled from there .
  31. 0
    April 11 2022 10: 40
    It seems to me that everything will end with the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to Lviv.
    1. +1
      April 11 2022 13: 11
      Today's grouping is not enough to accomplish such a task, they are already talking about this from every iron. We need mobilization, conscripts into battle. There is neither one nor the other, so there is no need to talk about Lviv.
  32. 0
    April 11 2022 11: 54
    Finally, the rapists of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be punished for the crimes that they have committed for years in Ukraine and the Donbass. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation liquidate all the guilty.
  33. +2
    April 11 2022 13: 07
    It makes sense for water. But I have some doubts that it was for this reason that the troops were withdrawn from near Kyiv. It seems to me that initially the emphasis was on an internal coup in Kyiv with the support of our troops, it did not happen, the troops were withdrawn, because. the number of troops near Kiev was not sufficient for a complete blockade.
  34. +3
    April 11 2022 14: 07
    Interesting! I did not know about the issue of water and closing the water supply of Donbass in Mariupol!
    I think, discussing different things here and falling into depression or into tides of joy, we also don’t know much, therefore we are not able to assess the real state of affairs and the actions of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. You just have to believe them. Apparently, everything that they do has their own unknown goals and reasons.
    About the Seelow Heights: they have not been strengthened for 8 years. Back in 1942, it never occurred to anyone in Germany that there would be the most important line of defense, and the Red Army would go to Berlin. The troops holding them, contrary to popular belief, were no longer top-notch, although they fought really hard. But these were the remains of the Wehrmacht. And not the most combat-ready and organized - those were to the south. And I really hope that the command of the RF Armed Forces will not put a "new Zhukov" there, otherwise it will cost us extremely dearly.
    I was criticized a lot for this, but I personally have a critical attitude towards Zhukov and his greatly exaggerated military leadership abilities. In my opinion, we had such commanders who deserved a monument near the Kremlin more. But here again the politics fit in.
    And in the Donbass now the color of the modern Ukrainian army, and their motivation is still not like that of the Wehrmacht in April 1945, and yes, they strengthened everything there for almost 8 years. Therefore, I hope that the "new Zhukov" will not appear there. And then there are not enough orders to award the guys posthumously ...
    And the victory will still be ours, for sure! ...
  35. 0
    April 11 2022 14: 46
    We are Russians! God and our President are with us!
  36. 0
    April 11 2022 17: 17
    Thanks for the comment!
  37. 0
    April 11 2022 17: 45
    Operation Bagration-2
  38. 0
    April 11 2022 22: 24
    Instead of thousands of losses on both sides, due to Zelensky's inability to negotiate, one missile can change a lot. If you hit the bunker of the Fascist Pianist with anti-bunker ammunition. Calibers will be able to overcome the air defense of Kyiv, the filling of Calibers can be. something like the "Pope of all bombs" (as stated in the post Afinogen (Afinogen) April 7, 2022 10:07). Europe, in the person of Borrell, gives the go-ahead - "to win on the battlefield." After the elimination of the Drug Addict, it is possible to sign peace on the terms of the Russian Federation with more sane politicians.
  39. 0
    April 12 2022 15: 50
    Absolute nonsense.
  40. 0
    April 15 2022 17: 43
    author! The 810th Separate Guards Marine Brigade is part of the Coastal Forces of the Black Sea Fleet! And the "Pacific warriors" are the 155th Separate Guards Marine Corps Brigade of the Pacific Fleet !!! Learn the match! Greetings to you from Kazachka in Sevastopol and Snegovoi Pad in Vladik!!!
  41. 0
    April 23 2022 12: 29
    And who participates in these national battalions? Westerners, right? Yes, there are all Russian speakers. And for some reason the national battalion "Azov"