Kazakhstan made an application for damage to relations with Russia and the rejection of Eurasian integration

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As the saying goes, good deeds are quickly forgotten. No sooner had Kazakhstan moved away from the January protests and pogroms, which Russian peacekeepers, among other things, helped to eliminate, our “neighbor” again took up his own.

The authorities of Nur-Sultan, by their actions and statements, unambiguously express support for the collective West, including in Ukraine. In addition, the Nazi “Russophobia”, which literally swept the country before the January events, has not disappeared.



So, literally on April 1, Timur Suleimenov, First Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration of Kazakhstan, during a visit to Brussels, expressed his country's commitment to the sanctions policy US and EU directed against Russia.

Further, more, on April 2, the leadership of Kazakhstan signed a declaration "On the Trans-Caspian East-West Corridor." In fact, this document provides for the cooperation of Nur-Sultan with Ankara, Tbilisi and Baku in the field of energy flows alternative to Russian ones.

Finally, let's add to this list the permission for the ardent nationalist Mukhtar Taidzhanov to create his own party, as well as the persecution of people who support the Russian SVO in Ukraine.

In general, all this looks like an application for a break with Russia and Kazakhstan's refusal from Eurasian integration. At the same time, quite recently, Kassym-Zhomart Tokayev shook hands with Vladimir Putin and thanked him for his help in preventing a coup d'état.

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  1. 123
    123
    +5
    April 10 2022 08: 57
    The time of the Kazakh steppes will come. Now, if the Russian troops had remained there, an aggravation would have begun and an attempt to stretch it over two fronts.
  2. Artyom76
    Artyom76
    +18
    April 10 2022 09: 08
    I once wrote a comment about our "allies". Are they really our allies? Armenia has been wagging its tail and continues to do so, now the Kazakhs. They both sat on the hump of the Russians, and they sit, but at the same time they yelp from under the silence.
    1. Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov
      +1
      April 10 2022 10: 06
      East is a delicate matter
      1. Pound
        Pound
        +1
        April 12 2022 07: 47
        How subtle, that's all, by the way, before 1917, the Kazakhs did not exist at all, there were "Kyrgyz".
        1. Moray Boreas
          Moray Boreas
          0
          26 May 2022 10: 02
          Yes. This is the same nation artificially created by Ulyanov and his comrades as the “Ukrainians”.
      2. Alex Min
        Alex Min
        0
        April 13 2022 21: 33
        The East is not only a delicate matter. but also .. vile! Russia needs to remember .. about this! But .and these "everyone" who were saved ... just lovers of freebies. Yes, big "political prostitutes" Russia remember! .. you have brothers inside your borders .. and the rest .. just! .. forgive me
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92
      +5
      April 10 2022 19: 18
      Quote: Artyom76
      They both sat on the hump of the Russians, and they sit, but at the same time they yelp from under the silence.

      Well, who allows them to do this? Maybe the brainless policy of the Russian Federation towards the former CIS countries,
      the weakness of the economy of our country or the outright venality of our bureaucrats and business?
      We have only "friends and partners", or rather our leader!
      Respect the strong!
      1. GIS
        GIS
        +3
        April 11 2022 09: 10
        the "leader" cannot steer EVERYTHING, and it is impossible to clean up all the "corrupt" ones IMMEDIATELY.
        you put yourself in his place and think WHO and HOW selects, coordinates and leads candidates for various positions. Is the scale clear?
        1. kapitan92
          kapitan92
          +1
          April 11 2022 19: 13
          Quote: GIS
          "leader" cannot steer EVERYTHING,

          He has to lead the staff. I don't see derzhavnikov in his appointments. He appoints the faithful, but asks how smart!

          Quote: GIS
          is the scale clear?

          100% corrupt system, head to toe!
          Russia has always been handed over from the inside, which is happening this time.
          1. SV34
            SV34
            -1
            April 13 2022 15: 19
            You don't appear to be in charge of anything. "Loyalty" is the first and mandatory criterion. "Productivity" (a combination of professional skills, luck and experience) is very desirable, but the second. The rest is 20%. No one trains the so-called "sovereigns" and they are not born. It's been a decade of trial and error. That is why modern governance in Europe is based on "democratic" elections with constant turnover. So that "state elites" do not grow up. Look, there is not a single leader with balls left in the EU. The last was, oddly enough, Merkel. That is why governments with any explicit national strategy are exterminated. Meanwhile, in Britain and the United States, this process is a front, and the top officials being replaced are just representatives of the current elites. And of course China with lifetime leaders.
        2. Moray Boreas
          Moray Boreas
          0
          26 May 2022 10: 05
          You're wrong. The leader reigns on the power of like-minded people. And creates a system. What a leader such is the system. Such is the retinue, which then “makes” the leader ... when he weakens, burdened with years .., such is life
  3. Afinogen
    Afinogen
    +4
    April 10 2022 09: 10
    It is necessary to break the CSTO agreement with Kazakhstan and all economic ties. Let them go on by themselves.
    1. Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov
      +4
      April 10 2022 11: 05
      Who will benefit from this? That's right - the States, and their regional support
      1. Afinogen
        Afinogen
        +11
        April 10 2022 11: 16
        To be honest, who wins on the drum. But I categorically do not like the behavior of Kazakhstan. A terrible Russophobia is promoted there, where Russians are frankly told to go to Russia and the Russians are humiliated, but the authorities simply do not notice this (or they were told not to notice it). There are American biological laboratories, I wonder against whom ??? But according to the CSTO agreement, we must help a "friendly" country, although this is not an external attack, but power cannot be divided in any way. And how many economic preferences Russia makes to Kazakhstan. Here it is necessary that they feel how it is to spit on Russia's mother.
        1. svetlanavradiy
          svetlanavradiy
          +7
          April 10 2022 13: 11
          Hence the conclusion: take the Russians to Russia, and cancel the preferences for the Kazakhs.
        2. Ildar Galin
          Ildar Galin
          +1
          April 10 2022 19: 09
          And nothing that Russia has Kazakhstan in the subperitoneal space.
          1. Afinogen
            Afinogen
            0
            April 10 2022 19: 19
            What `s next ?
            1. Ildar Galin
              Ildar Galin
              0
              April 12 2022 07: 33
              So the Americans will climb there. Next, the Kazakhs will be asked to join NATO ..
          2. Alex Min
            Alex Min
            0
            April 13 2022 22: 07
            What did you mean by that!? Look how "hot" it doesn't get..
        3. calagin407
          calagin407
          0
          April 13 2022 09: 30
          Throw in Russia only with the Russian Lands together!
    2. GIS
      GIS
      +3
      April 11 2022 09: 12
      But can we then guarantee the closure of such a land border?
      But will we be able to prevent the opening of new US (and not only) biological laboratories and NGOs?
      1. Afinogen
        Afinogen
        +2
        April 11 2022 09: 47
        So all of these problems now exist. And the border is open (in principle) And the laboratories of the Americans now exist in Kazakhstan, plus the wild Russophobia supported by the government. So what is most incomprehensible and absurd is that we are bound by the CSTO agreement and, at the click of Kazakhstan, are obliged to defend it (I doubt very much that they will help Russia in difficult times). And in no way do I propose to fight with Kazakhstan. Since he is acting at the behest of the Americans, then break the CSTO agreement with them and cancel all economic preferences, plus remind about debts (like it's time to start returning)
  4. Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov
    +7
    April 10 2022 10: 48
    Russia's weak position as a regional leader and its (still) lack of a coherent and understandable geopolitical goal, which has already become a tradition, led to this.
    Think for yourself - a power located overseas has more weight for the leadership of Kazakhstan than neighboring Russia and cooperation with it. Before that, we had to bring. Brought...
    1. Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov
      +4
      April 10 2022 12: 22
      Without our own geopolitical goals, we are not ready to take responsibility for the choice of our potential allies, we are not able to lead them. Because we don't know where
      1. steelmaker
        steelmaker
        0
        April 10 2022 12: 58
        we don't know where

        The Kremlin does not know this.
        1. goncharov.62
          goncharov.62
          +3
          April 10 2022 13: 24
          After all, all around are brothers! But some are sisters... Ugh, how is this policy fundamentally different from Kozyrev's?
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          2. Alex Min
            Alex Min
            0
            April 13 2022 22: 12
            Russia has no brothers! .. and these "nomads" even more so ..
        2. GIS
          GIS
          0
          April 11 2022 09: 14
          do you know?
          "for peace and prosperity" is not specific, you need a goal and a plan for it
      2. svetlanavradiy
        svetlanavradiy
        +6
        April 10 2022 13: 15
        And we don't need to go anywhere. It is necessary to build a self-sufficient state with a high standard of living and a powerful army and navy (our best friends). And a strong ruble. And all these tobaccos themselves will be drawn to us, but why will we need them?
        1. Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov
          +1
          April 10 2022 18: 53
          You are gravely mistaken. This was said by our emperor, and Russia was still an empire then. Even in the 20th century, Russia could still survive relying on these two of its allies. Now the world has become dense, like a crystal. Every node of his grid is controlled by someone. If you cede neighboring states to the enemy, they will simply isolate you, surround you with bases with missile weapons, deprive you of any opportunity to escape, and block you. They will not give you the opportunity to build anything - for this there are wars.
          You will not have a single chance, so there will be no Future. You will simply be destroyed.
          The reality that we have confirms the implementation of this plan.
          1. Smilodon terribilis nimis
            Smilodon terribilis nimis
            +2
            April 10 2022 19: 11
            The dense world is an illusion. It is enough to knock this door off your feet and the whole dense world will collapse. I understand when they say this about some kind of dwarfs like the DPRK. That they are surrounded and all that. But monsters like China or Russia are a completely different situation. To try to surround them is to doom oneself to certain death.
            1. GIS
              GIS
              0
              April 11 2022 09: 17
              you are wrong. Alexey told you right. and the policy of "knocking the doors off your feet" ... and then they will cooperate with you a lot without the thought of tripping you / a knife in your back / finishing off the fallen?
              1. Smilodon terribilis nimis
                Smilodon terribilis nimis
                0
                April 11 2022 18: 33
                Many. Because the majority only recognizes force. Or do you think that the Germans are so stupid that they ruin their economy? Well, I would advise your limitrophes to sit still. If you perform, you will burn either from their fire or from ours.
    2. Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov
      +4
      April 10 2022 13: 08
      I think that the reason for our miscalculations is the liberalism once chosen by our leadership as the basis of our approach to everything.
      Leaving at the mercy of "nature" the formation of our own direction of movement, and the choice of it by our environment, we free ourselves from the work of a meaningful choice of these directions, and from responsibility for it. In a well-balanced, static world, this is probably quite possible, but the world around us is completely different. It is unbalanced and fully vectorized.
      A state with no carefully formed and clear vector in it loses to countries that have this vector. So we lost Azerbaijan, now we are losing Kazakhstan. For the same reason, we cannot acquire reliable partners and friends in this world. China attracts to us, and repels us from us, it is this feature of ours. And in both cases the result for us is negative.
      Now in the international arena we are dealing, already with the consequences of our liberalism
      1. Smilodon terribilis nimis
        Smilodon terribilis nimis
        0
        April 10 2022 19: 13
        This is just another stage in our history. Time will pass and there will be no Azerbaijanis and steppe peoples left. After all, there used to be the Kokand and Khiva khanates. Where are they?
  5. Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov
    +5
    April 10 2022 11: 21
    Or maybe Russia intervened in January in vain? After all, it was going to a civil war in Kazakhstan. It was possible to wait a bit and then take the civilian population of northern Kazakhstan under protection with all the consequences and solve the problem once and for all
    1. goncharov.62
      goncharov.62
      +1
      April 10 2022 13: 26
      And the East? What about Verny Fortress? And Rudny Altai? Yes, there is half of the Russian lands with the people.
      1. VlVl
        VlVl
        0
        April 10 2022 19: 10
        + Baikonur.
  6. Sergey Pavlenko
    Sergey Pavlenko
    +2
    April 10 2022 11: 28
    Well, now another training ground for the Russian Armed Forces has appeared, since they don’t understand that overseas “friends” are no longer in vogue, then they are ready to repeat the fate of Ukraine over time, because Russia will never allow having an enemy under its belly .. .., well, let Tokayev talk with Yanukovych about how he lives here ..., but it’s not known whether he will have time to flee to Russia at the last moment ...
    1. Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov
      -1
      April 10 2022 12: 18
      Bravado. One "polygon" is enough for us
      1. Smilodon terribilis nimis
        Smilodon terribilis nimis
        +2
        April 10 2022 19: 14
        Not at all. This is the future goal. When you pull the tiger's whiskers, then be prepared that he will wake up at any moment.
  7. steelmaker
    steelmaker
    +2
    April 10 2022 12: 55
    In life, as in nature, everything is simple. The strong always eat the weak. And when a tiger, for the sake of a goat, agrees to eat cabbage, this speaks of his abnormal psyche. It's a sick tiger!
    Cooks and taxi drivers shouted that it was impossible to withdraw troops from Kazakhstan without receiving security guarantees. Even, someone here believed that Tokaev was ready to create a Russian military base. Well, uneducated, again the cooks with taxi drivers turned out to be right. And I constantly say: "Education should be received, not bought."
    I would suggest what Putin needs to do first. But I will be banned again.
    1. goncharov.62
      goncharov.62
      -1
      April 10 2022 13: 27
      And you are careful. ..
  8. svetlanavradiy
    svetlanavradiy
    0
    April 10 2022 13: 07
    I'm telling you, the Americans have been spudding Kazakhstan for a long time. Back in 2016-17, there was a short advertisement on American TV called "Invest in Kazakhstan". And the Americans don’t invest where and to whom, if there is no smell of profit or political dividends.
    1. Colonel Kudasov
      Colonel Kudasov
      0
      April 10 2022 14: 16
      Well, Kazakhstan is a tasty morsel for the United States, bordering not only on the Russian Federation, but also on China, and even on Iran by sea
  9. zloybond
    zloybond
    +1
    April 10 2022 14: 58
    It's time for Russia and China to divide Kazakhstan by shares.
  10. opportunist
    opportunist
    +1
    April 10 2022 16: 48
    the Kremlin's policy of pursuing a policy against the revolution is to blame. Why be against revolutions? the time has come for the revolution of Kazakhstan's new Russia
    1. Bulanov
      Bulanov
      0
      April 10 2022 18: 04
      Perhaps Yeltsin and his followers are to blame?
  11. Roma Phil
    Roma Phil
    +1
    April 10 2022 17: 03
    Nationalism in Kazakhstan is certainly growing. And this nationalism appeared immediately after the collapse of the USSR. But in Kazakhstan it was not so immediately obvious as in other republics. Asia, for example, in Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, and especially in Tajikistan, where Russians were directly killed on the streets and driven out of their houses and apartments. And trains with evacuated Russians were thrown with stones and Molotov cocktails.
    And these pogroms of Russians in Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan at that time were shown on Kazakh TV, and it was this demonstration of the massacre of Russians that gave impetus to nationalism in Kazakhstan.
    I came to Russia from Kazakhstan 8 years ago and all this developed before my eyes.
    The Kazakhs were especially sensitive to the fact that articles began to appear in the Russian media at that time that the northern regions of Kazakhstan, in which the predominantly Russian population lived at that time, always belonged to the Russian empire. Yes, and the whole of Kazakhstan should be Russia, because exactly how the Russians made this steppe region industrial.
    And then, even the most pro-Russian Kazakhs began to make calls to dissociate themselves from Russia and seek protection from the West.
    But .... Most of the Kazakhs then wrote and spoke in the media, including on TV in various talk shows, that Kazakhstan, being between Russia and China, had only 2 (two) ways: To be closer to Russia. or be closer to China. Most of the intelligentsia of Kazakhstan called on the Russians not to leave the republic, but to build a common Kazakhstan for all equal nationalities, and called for two state languages ​​- Kazakh and Russian.
    Nazarbayev then did just that. He introduced an article on languages ​​into the Constitution of the Republic: Kazakh is the state language, Russian is the language of interethnic communication. All documents then began to appear in two languages. But gradually the Russian language began to disappear from one document, then from another. And when the Russian population drew attention to this, civil servants answered, as if innocently, that it takes up a lot of space and that a document is printed in two languages ​​only at the request of a citizen. Personally, I myself encountered when I received a document from a notary in the Kazakh language. True, at my request it was printed in two languages.
    And now, after the events in Ukraine, in Kazakhstan, Kazakh nationalists have again begun to raise their heads, urging the people that after the Ukrainians, the Kazakhs will be next.
    But according to my information, no one touches Russians and Russian-speakers in Kazakhstan yet.
    And who knows? Maybe it's for now?
  12. Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov
    0
    April 10 2022 17: 05
    By the way, Kazakhstan voted against the exclusion of Russia from the UN, unlike another "ally" of Serbia
  13. dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky
    0
    April 10 2022 17: 52
    Apparently, the opposition did not rub its muzzle on the asphalt a little, it quickly healed, so it plays on two strings again. Think. this is not the end, as the south was dissatisfied, it did not lose hope of dumping this sleek Kazakh. Let's wait. I think he has a couple of years left.
    1. Roma Phil
      Roma Phil
      -2
      April 10 2022 18: 31
      I think the Russian media, journalists and journalists need to write their articles about Kazakhstan and the Kazakhs more thoughtfully. 90% of Kazakhs read Russian websites, are in Russian social networks and watch Russian TV.
      And as they say, and not without reason, that the media is the second power in every state. And perhaps even the first. Elections are underway in France now, and it is journalists and the media who can put at the head of France whoever they like, the media magnates.
      It's the same with Kazakhstan. If we print that the northern regions of Kazakhstan should belong to Russia, Baikonur should be Russian, and the Kazakhs did not build anything and do not know how, then of course Russia can get a second Ukraine.
      1. Smilodon terribilis nimis
        Smilodon terribilis nimis
        +1
        April 10 2022 19: 18
        And what about journalists? If the Kazakhs turn their booty in two directions, then their fate is sad. Being between the ax and the dongfeng, choosing the Washington caduceus means being erased from the world map.
  14. kriten
    kriten
    +2
    April 10 2022 18: 46
    The stupid policy of the Kremlin towards Kazakhstan is bearing fruit. Withdraw troops on day 3 and leave agents of London in power ....
  15. dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky
    +3
    April 10 2022 19: 23
    Quote: Roma Phil
    I think the Russian media, journalists and journalists need to write their articles about Kazakhstan and the Kazakhs more thoughtfully. 90% of Kazakhs read Russian websites, are in Russian social networks and watch Russian TV.
    And as they say, and not without reason, that the media is the second power in every state. And perhaps even the first. Elections are underway in France now, and it is journalists and the media who can put at the head of France whoever they like, the media magnates.
    It's the same with Kazakhstan. If we print that the northern regions of Kazakhstan should belong to Russia, Baikonur should be Russian, and the Kazakhs did not build anything and do not know how, then of course Russia can get a second Ukraine.

    Then the Kazakhs will get a second Ukraine. We will remind at whose expense these nomads lived, who built and handed over 5 regions, and let them think.


    Or do you think that NATO was practically kicked out of Ukraine, and the Kazakhs will be allowed to do this?
    1. Roma Phil
      Roma Phil
      -2
      April 10 2022 19: 58
      Well, firstly, if you read my previous comment, then the Kazakhs have only two ways - to China or to Russia. They understand this very well, being between two big powers and have never declared their claims to join NATO.
      Well, and secondly, it is precisely such reproaches as your table that irritates Kazakh intellectuals the most. Everything in your table. this is BEFORE the collapse of the USSR, and they reasonably say that, being in sovereign status, they want to build their relations with Russia on an equal footing. The Union has collapsed and no shouting from the Kremlin has any effect on them.
      And even more so, when claims to the northern regions of Kazakhstan and Baikonur sometimes appear in our media, this annoys them and even frightens them.
      1. syndicalist
        syndicalist
        -1
        April 10 2022 20: 14
        Nothing irritates them and does not frighten them for a long time. Kazakhstan has long been a Chinese protectorate. And with such an overlord, you can safely sneeze at the former overlord. One can recall how Russian troops flew out of Kazakhstan in January, after Wang Yi's slightly furrowed brows.
        1. Smilodon terribilis nimis
          Smilodon terribilis nimis
          0
          April 11 2022 18: 39
          Are you saying that the Chinese are stupid and deliberately provoke Russia? If they were under a Chinese protectorate, they would behave below the grass, because China does not need a conflict with Russia.
          1. Roma Phil
            Roma Phil
            0
            April 11 2022 21: 03
            I lived in Kazakhstan and heard many times what the Kazakhs say about Russia and China.
            And they say this: - We are used to Russia, and the Chinese bridle will be tough. And at the same time, they nod at the Uyghurs, who are fleeing from China to Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan.
      2. Smilodon terribilis nimis
        Smilodon terribilis nimis
        0
        April 11 2022 18: 37
        How can they build relationships on an equal footing when they are initially unequal? For example, Russia and Brazil can be on an equal footing.
        Yes, let it be annoying. If they suddenly decide to arrange the same thing as crests, then the North will lose their way to drink.
  16. Art Pilot
    Art Pilot
    0
    April 10 2022 20: 07
    What do you hear about Nazarbayev? Where is he?
  17. Art Pilot
    Art Pilot
    0
    April 10 2022 20: 11
    Britain told Tokayev: "We did it once. We can do it again, but on a larger scale and more successfully." And he gave up.
  18. AndreyVCh
    AndreyVCh
    0
    April 10 2022 20: 27
    And you can also remember how Erdogan thanked Putin after our special services uncovered a conspiracy against him in 2016. Such is our Vladimir Vladimirovich, as according to the Gospel: if your enemy is hungry, feed him, if he is thirsty, give him a drink ...
    1. Smilodon terribilis nimis
      Smilodon terribilis nimis
      0
      April 11 2022 18: 41
      Well, TURKEY IS COMPLETELY NORMALLY LEADING ITS POLICY. They have national interests in the first place, which fundamentally distinguishes them from European cuckolds.
  19. Yuri Neupokoev
    Yuri Neupokoev
    +1
    April 10 2022 21: 00
    Kazakhstan is next on the list of impudent Saxons to be slaughtered. A country of decent size (not Georgia or Moldova) with good potential (raw materials, location). It is quite possible to make another anti-Russia (and at the same time anti-China). There is a very strong influence of the Britons and Turks. People are being brainwashed there, maybe not as zealously as on the outskirts, but purposefully and methodically with an eye on serious nix. At the beginning of the year there was only a fitting. But in which case, not only we, but also China can intervene there.
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  21. Avarron
    Avarron
    0
    April 10 2022 23: 34
    I repeat once again - the Belovezhskaya agreements were denounced in 1996. Everything that happens on the territory of the USSR within its internationally recognized borders is an internal affair of the USSR.
  22. Sapsan136
    Sapsan136
    +1
    April 10 2022 23: 54
    It is time for Russia to stop considering the countries of the former USSR afflicted with Russophobia as fraternal states, and their population and people from them as fraternal peoples, and start pursuing a more pragmatic policy, exclusively in the interests of the Russian Federation and its indigenous population ...
  23. Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar
    +1
    April 11 2022 00: 13
    More than 70 percent of all investment income pumped out of Kazakhstan during the period 2009-2020 came from three countries - the USA, the Netherlands and the UK
    The dominance of Western investors in Kazakhstan's economy (especially from the US, the Netherlands and the UK) is a major obstacle to Russia's further economic rapprochement with its southern neighbor. Moreover, the large-scale presence of Western capital in Kazakhstan increases its vulnerability to subversive operations from abroad. And the task of the latter is to finally oust Russia from the economic space of Kazakhstan, torpedo the rapprochement of these two states and, if possible, make them enemies.
    According to one version, it was the Western oil transnationals that provoked the January unrest in Kazakhstan in order to remove or weaken the positions of pro-Chinese (and at the same time pro-Russian) politicians from power.

    Valentin Katasonov. Foreign capital in Kazakhstan
    1. ivan2022
      ivan2022
      0
      April 11 2022 05: 54
      Quote: Jacques Sekavar
      According to one version, it was the Western oil transnationals that provoked the January unrest in Kazakhstan in order to remove or weaken the positions of pro-Chinese (and at the same time pro-Russian) politicians from power.

      Not even one version. And the only correct one. To realize oneself in the role of suckers who "slept soundly for 30 years and did not know anything" means, in fact, to recognize the inadequacy of the former political course. Yeltsin's original idea, supported by Solzhenitsin; "How can we equip Russia" - through the partition of the USSR - is just crazy nonsense. The fact that our society supported it and even elected Yeltsin for a second term is a phenomenon never seen before in the history of mankind! The former republics from which "the Russian people were liberated" became semi-colonies of the West and reserves of Russophobia. The activities of the Bolsheviks were interpreted to us as an "experiment on the people" - but they themselves carried out such a grandiose and insane experiment that now the fate of Russia is at stake.
      Einstein used to say: "Only the Universe and human stupidity are infinite. However, I doubt the first one." Our stupidity has overcome everything in the universe.
      1. isofat
        isofat
        0
        April 16 2022 11: 00
        Quote: ivan2022
        Einstein used to say...

        Ivan, do not advertise this crook, Einstein. smile
  24. Andrey Filippov_2
    Andrey Filippov_2
    0
    April 11 2022 05: 34
    He is always such a scum!
  25. Kofesan
    Kofesan
    0
    April 11 2022 06: 54
    I drew attention to a pattern that confirms that:

    the more the USSR fed its national outskirts -
    ...trade deficit,
    ...infrastructure financing,
    ...the development of national culture and cultural institutions at the expense of a disproportionate
    increase in the planned financing of the "national" to the detriment of the average Union,
    ... territorial concessions,
    ... the movement of advanced technologies in the form of plants and factories,
    ... a violent skew in the ethnic composition of the managerial cadres in leadership positions in favor of the cajoled nation, ... and so on

    all the more cave Russophobia crawled out of the coaxed ...

    as an example, from the negligible development of the Balts, Kazakhs, Ukrainians (terrible outskirts under the tsars and not only Russians)
    with the support of exactly the same Russian "new" strategy in national matters ...

    led to the flourishing of the sadistic ideology of cutting out benefactors, that is, Russians, "at the root" ...

  26. Hayer31
    Hayer31
    0
    April 11 2022 08: 55
    Well, Putin has a partner.
  27. Yuri Vishnevetsky-Koribut
    Yuri Vishnevetsky-Koribut
    +1
    April 11 2022 09: 10
    Everything depends on the success of the special operation in Ukraine. It will end in victory - everyone will shut up, including the West.
  28. dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky
    +1
    April 11 2022 13: 16
    Quote: Roma Phil
    Well, firstly, if you read my previous comment, then the Kazakhs have only two ways - to China or to Russia. They understand this very well, being between two big powers and have never declared their claims to join NATO.
    Well, and secondly, it is precisely such reproaches as your table that irritates Kazakh intellectuals the most. Everything in your table. this is BEFORE the collapse of the USSR, and they reasonably say that, being in sovereign status, they want to build their relations with Russia on an equal footing. The Union has collapsed and no shouting from the Kremlin has any effect on them.
    And even more so, when claims to the northern regions of Kazakhstan and Baikonur sometimes appear in our media, this annoys them and even frightens them.

    Not to Russia and not to China. Turkey appears there. What, it is not clear why the Kazakhs translate their alphabet into Latin? Azerbaijan, Adjara, Armenia, Kazakhstan. Possibly Georgia. Biolaboratories of the USA in the territory of Kazakhstan. It doesn't smell like China or Russia. It all smells Turkish. Such a table (I believe in its authenticity) irritates the Natsiks. Rabid and completely insane. Those who can think and understand that this is the truth will consider losing such content instead of illusory promises. To be an equal partner with Russia and a junior among the Turks. And the illusory threat to take away what was Russian, uttered not yet by politicians, will make even more average minds think. We do not need to creep in front of the admirers of Genghis Khan, who enthusiastically write on the forums about his conquests. Although they themselves, premature dumbass, do not understand that it was their ancestors who became the first victim.
  29. Joker62
    Joker62
    +1
    April 11 2022 15: 56
    Well Tokaev you be in trouble! Trouble will come to your land from behind a hillock - do not ask for help from Russia! Disentangle yourself, which you brewed yourself ... They thought that Nazarbayev was rotten, but it turned out the opposite - you yourself, Tokayev ...
    No comment ...
  30. dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky
    0
    April 11 2022 22: 27
    Quote: Alexey Davydov
    East is a delicate matter

    The East is for sale. No one will respect you in the oriental bazaar if, according to the European habit, you give money as much and at once as you were told. And they will praise you if you bargain for a penny.
  31. Peace Peace.
    Peace Peace.
    +1
    April 13 2022 18: 50
    Tokaev was taken for ..... intimidating the wringers of all the lard bucks of Kazakhstan. When Trump froze $22 billion, Nazarbayev himself flew and "kissed Trump's shoes" promising Caspian bases and loyalty. And what else is left for Tokayev to do, at the moment he doesn’t want to become impoverished, after all.