When Russian troops return to Kyiv again

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This has never happened before, and here it is again. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov complains that negotiations with the Ukrainian side have reached an impasse. As if there were no 8 years of fruitless negotiations on the status of the DPR and LPR, as well as sabotage of the implementation of the already signed Minsk agreements, the first and second. Let's consider how Ukraine, which is under the external control of the West, can be forced to demilitarize and denazify, and whether this is even possible.

We have previously detailed disassembledwhy obscene peace with Ukraine according to Medinsky and Abramovich will become a defeat for Russia. Yes, precisely by defeat, since in reality neither demilitarization nor denazification, outsourced to the Nazi regime itself in Kyiv, will be carried out. On the contrary, on the ruins of Nezalezhnaya there will be its accelerated nazification, rearmament with the help of NATO, as well as an inevitable bloody attempt at revenge in the Donbass and Crimea. Well, the “bonus” in the form of tough anti-Russian sanctions and litigation to compensate Ukraine for everything destroyed at the expense of the “aggressor”. Already now in Kyiv the damage has been calculated for 1 trillion dollars.



These are quite real prospects of what could happen if the NWO continues on the same course as it is now. For the Russian people, who have a strong historical memory of the inadmissibility of the existence of Nazism as such at any cost, this is completely unacceptable. Can we somehow reverse the negative trend and emerge victorious from this conflict?

Yes, it is possible, but for this it will be necessary to apply approaches that are directly opposite to those laid down in the SVO.

first. President Putin, as the Supreme Commander of the RF Armed Forces, must stop playing silent about the future of Ukraine. If he wants Russia to win and achieve real denazification and demilitarization of the Independent, recognition of the independence of the DPR and LPR, Crimea as Russian, giving the Russian language the status of a second state language, and so on, it is necessary to officially recognize the regime of President Zelensky as criminal, incapable of negotiating and not shaking hands. Russian troops will have to enter Ukraine and stay there forever, which must also be announced in plain text so that another “massacre in Bucha” does not happen again.

A specific and sane plan is needed for the post-war transformation of the former Independent into a “soft” federation or confederation, the restoration of commercial and industrial ties with Russia, etc. Plan B is possible to divide its territory with its Eastern European neighbors. In any case, people on both sides of the border should know what exactly they are shedding blood for.

Second. The rapid withdrawal of Russian troops from northern Ukraine and the ensuing "massacre in Bucha" organized by the Ukrainian Nazis became our big image defeat. Fanfares are blowing in Kyiv, enthusiasm reigns, and the new "Goebbels" Arestovich promises that 2-3 weeks are left before the victory over the Russians. To reverse this trend, Russia needs several landmark victories.

Mariupol, which has become a stronghold of Ukrainian Nazism, must finally fall. While he holds out, ordinary Ukrainians, fooled by jingoistic propaganda, have dangerous illusions that they can survive. Next, it will be necessary to destroy the second Nazi stronghold in Kharkov, but this is already after the defeat of the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. There, the Kyiv regime concentrated its most combat-ready military units, which were supposed to destroy the DPR and LPR. Reinforcements from near Kyiv are also coming here, bringing the total number to 90-100 thousand people. This is a huge force, with which the Zelensky regime can continue to be rude to Moscow, setting its own conditions.

The defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass will be able to turn the tide of the campaign. According to various sources, the size of the Russian grouping and troops of the DPR and LPR in the region reaches from 120 to 150 thousand people. There is an advantage in terms of the number and quality of weapons. However, it is necessary to achieve a complete defeat, and for a convincing result it is worth bringing the size of our grouping to at least 300 thousand people. There is no time for positional battles: recallthat the Armed Forces of Ukraine cut off water supplies to the DPR and LPR, and there, in a week and a half to two weeks, a real humanitarian catastrophe will begin.

Probably, it is necessary to start transferring additional reserves to the Donbass and announce a partial mobilization. The asking price is too high. There is no point in playing nobility here.

The third. Having achieved the liquidation of the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it is necessary to direct the released forces to occupy the rest of the Left Bank and the Northern Black Sea region. The loss of Mariupol, Nikolaev and Odessa in itself means a strategic defeat for Kyiv, making it economically untenable.

Fourth. For the complete and final collapse of the Nazi regime, it will be necessary to close the border with Poland, Hungary and Romania, from where the supply of heavy weapons has already begun. Until this “Ukrainian Express” is blocked, there can be no question of Kyiv's capitulation. There are options here. For example, it is possible to separately agree with Ukraine's Eastern European neighbors on the division of its western regions with them. Then the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will need to build a new border along Galicia, Volhynia and Bukovina.

If this option is unacceptable, then the RF Armed Forces will need to take control of the right bank of the Dnieper, cutting off Western Ukraine from Kyiv with counter attacks from the south and north, from the territory of Belarus. Then we will suffer with Bandera for a very long time, but now the main thing is to stop the supply of weapons from NATO countries.

Fifth and last. Only by taking control of the Left Bank, the Sea of ​​Azov and the Black Sea, cutting off Western Ukraine, does it make sense for Russian troops to return to Kyiv. Probably, it will be by late autumn or winter, when the “greenery” ends. But this "second coming" will be final. Overlaid on all sides, Kyiv will be forced to capitulate, it's a matter of time.

And only after that it will be possible to talk about the completion of the special military operation in Ukraine and the transition to the tasks of its state transformation, forced demilitarization and denazification. In the current format, the SVO with the alleged Minsk-3 cannot end in anything good.
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  1. +1
    April 6 2022 14: 41
    When Russian troops return to Kyiv again

    Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

    Russian troops will not return to Kyiv - because they are most likely not planning to take Kyiv.
    And why? Kyiv is 20 times larger than Mariupol - so figure out "what will happen there" ...
    To take, and not by storm, but by siege, you need what is needed - Nikolaev, Odessa, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Chernigov, Kirovograd ...
    1. +3
      April 6 2022 14: 48
      Kyiv is larger than Mariupol 20 times

      5 to be exact
      1. -3
        April 6 2022 15: 09
        Dear Kristallovich (Ruslan)!

        In terms of area with suburbs and population in "5 times" ?!
        Doubts linger...
    2. +5
      April 6 2022 15: 01
      Highlight in the text, please, where the word "take Kyiv" is written. It is written there

      Overlaid on all sides, Kyiv will be forced to capitulate, it's a matter of time.
      1. -3
        April 6 2022 15: 13
        Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

        "Overlay" Kyiv, as Vespasian and Titus once overlaid Jerusalem for years?!
        But why?

        We must proceed from the possible, not from the desired.
        NWO was "desired", and the war that replaced it corrects plans in the direction of the really "possible" ...
        1. +3
          April 6 2022 16: 19
          "Overlay" Kyiv, as Vespasian and Titus once overlaid Jerusalem for years?!
          But why?

          What years? Cut off the supply of water and electricity, as they are to the Crimea and Donbass, opening humanitarian corridors for the exit of all comers.
          You seem like a decent person. Why are you turning on fool mode?
          1. -1
            April 6 2022 16: 47
            Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

            Let's not be "about the fool" - okay?
            Keep yourself within the bounds of decency...

            Are you proposing to cut off the supply of water and electricity to tens of thousands of unarmed people in a large metropolis?

            Well, then how will you differ from the Nazis ?!

            Humanitarian corridors will be blocked by the Nazis, because TODAY in Ukraine, neo-fascists are using a new type of weapon called “human shield from civilians”.
            And against this type of weapon there are no effective means of "quick" counteraction.
            Unless, of course, destroy "all together."

            Then why pull with the environment, dear Marzhetsky - "throw" an atomic bomb on Kyiv right away.
            1. +1
              April 6 2022 18: 07
              Are you proposing to cut off the supply of water and electricity to tens of thousands of unarmed people in a large metropolis?

              Well, then how will you differ from the Nazis ?!

              The fact that the Nazis did not provide humanitarian corridors.

              Then why pull with the environment, dear Marzhetsky - "throw" an atomic bomb on Kyiv right away.

              Throw yourself if you so desire.
              1. -5
                April 6 2022 19: 32
                Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

                It is you who are talking about how ALL residents of Kyiv, including those who are on our side, can be nightmares without water and without electricity, and force them to rush into the humanitarian corridors being shot through by the Nazis.
                Are you in good condition?
                1. +2
                  April 6 2022 20: 03
                  I'm the most adequate person here, apparently. And you are engaged in demagogy. hi
                  1. -4
                    April 6 2022 20: 33
                    Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

                    By definition, an adequate person cannot offer what you offer for Kyiv:

                    Cut off the supply of water and electricity, as they are to the Crimea and Donbass,

                    If I am engaged in - in your words - "demagogy", then you publicly propose to the RF Armed Forces to become like the Ukrainian neo-Nazis ...
                    1. +1
                      April 7 2022 11: 28
                      If I am engaged in - in your words - "demagogy", then you publicly propose to the RF Armed Forces to become like the Ukrainian neo-Nazis ...

                      I have already explained to you what exactly is the demagoguery of your insinuations. I don't see the point in repeating.
                      1. 0
                        April 8 2022 20: 07
                        Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

                        You flatter yourself in terms of the fact that you know how to explain "something" ...
                        Kvass patriotism mixed with hatred is even worse than naked Nazism.
                        However, to be brave at the monitor is a simple matter.
                        How is it with V.S. Vysotsky: "And you have a rifle ... And send you into battle ..." - remember?
            2. +2
              April 6 2022 21: 26
              Quote: Krapilin
              Then why pull with the environment, dear Marzhetsky - "throw" an atomic bomb on Kyiv right away.

              I wrote about this for a long time - it’s not necessary to throw IT at Kyiv, but to strike tactical nuclear weapons at Galicia-Lviv, Ivano Frankovsk, Ternopil, strike where the vast majority of these Nazis come from, and their equally frantic Bandera parents live there. Now already the situation is this - to be Russia, or not to be. We have a population of only 146 million people, and I do not take into account either Belarus, or China, much less Kazakhstan and other Uzbekistans, they are of no use, and countries with a population are against us more than 0 billion people, and they are well armed, so our human and military resources are incomparable, and not in our favor. yes, and the army leadership also needed to be scoured, but we have THERE whatever godfather, then a matchmaker, or a brother. or otherwise, but you have to "print" ..
              1. -6
                April 6 2022 21: 50
                Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

                If nuclear weapons are already used, then they should be used at the centers for making anti-Russian decisions OUTSIDE of Ukraine. For example, in Brussels...
                But no one will do this now, because "1,5 billion" do not push on our borders. That's when they trample - that's when it is possible and necessary.

                Europe, on the other hand, must be diplomatically forced to the idea of ​​“taking away”: the Poles - the Polish in Ukraine, the Hungarians, respectively - the Hungarian.
                This will add "internal drive" to Europe.
                And not for the Russian Foreign Minister to tell Russian citizens how he is very worried in negotiations with drug addicts and fascists about whether Kyiv recognizes Crimea as Russian or not.
          2. 0
            April 8 2022 13: 11
            And again, the Nazis will not let anyone out, the corridors will be empty, and people will die of hunger and wounds in the basements. That's why Putin is silent, because no one knows how to solve the problem with Ukraine, it's just that there are no more examples of such brutality in nature, as shown by the Ukrainian Nazis. Nobody knows what to do with it.
    3. 1_2
      +3
      April 6 2022 16: 19
      Kyiv is the mother of Russian cities, it is necessary to release it by any means, after the destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the East. To do this, you just need to block the city and then divide it into parts, the parts are sequentially slowly cleared
      1. -1
        April 7 2022 07: 55
        The majority here believes that there is no need to chime with this "mother of Russian cities", but slam it with a nuclear bomb and that's it
  2. -3
    April 6 2022 15: 40
    Russian troops will have to enter Ukraine and stay there forever, which must also be announced in plain text so that another “massacre in Bucha” does not happen again.

    Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

    Do you propose to stay / occupy the ALL territory of present-day Ukraine ... "forever" ?! And what forces?

    And what does the "repeat" of Bucha have to do with it, if the Skripals, like, were "poisoned" in London?
    1. +4
      April 6 2022 16: 18
      Do you propose to stay / occupy the ALL territory of present-day Ukraine ... "forever" ?! And what forces?

      I propose to solve the real tasks of demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. Forever.
      So you're suggesting we leave?

      And what does the "repeat" of Bucha have to do with it, if the Skripals, like, were "poisoned" in London?

      What are you carrying? What are the Skripals? How does this relate to the topic of the article?
      1. -2
        April 6 2022 16: 55
        Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

        I propose to solve the real tasks of demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. Forever.
        So you're suggesting we leave?

        Yes, leave now - better a tit in the hands than a crane in the sky - and focus on the southeast.
        And to put the squeeze on economically, and even without access to the sea, to an internal rebellion - it is possible with time.

        What are you carrying? What are the Skripals? How does this relate to the topic of the article?

        And in such a way that there will be dozens of such provocative "butches".
        And you won't do anything about it.
        Just as you don't "occupy" the whole of Ukraine.
        So what about you carry - "... remain troops forever ..." - it's more likely to "carry" you ...
        1. +1
          April 6 2022 18: 10
          Yes, leave now - better a tit in the hands than a crane in the sky - and focus on the southeast.
          And to put the squeeze on economically, and even without access to the sea, to an internal rebellion - it is possible with time.

          Yeah. Well, focus on your health. Wait for the "internal rebellion", yeah.
          1. -1
            April 6 2022 18: 24
            Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

            Not "aha-aha", but it will be so in the near future.
            And this will save life and health - not mine, but thousands of our soldiers and officers.
            1. +2
              April 6 2022 20: 02
              Not "aha-aha", but it will be so in the near future.
              And this will save life and health - not mine, but thousands of our soldiers and officers.

              And in a few years, millions of Russians will die. So it will be. hi
              1. -3
                April 6 2022 20: 36
                Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

                And the earth will "fly on the earth's axis"?!

                There is such a profession - to defend the homeland.
                And there is such a "profession" - to breed panic.
                1. +1
                  April 7 2022 11: 27
                  There is such a profession - to defend the homeland.
                  And there is such a "profession" - to breed panic.

                  And there is such a profession - a journalist, and I am a good journalist. All conversation is over.
                  1. +1
                    April 8 2022 20: 11
                    Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

                    Restraint adorns a person ...
                    Especially a man.

                    A lot of words - this is not journalism. Someone deceived you with the reverse wording.
  3. -2
    April 6 2022 15: 56
    The author, Napoleon Bonaparte, isn't your grandfather?
  4. +1
    April 6 2022 16: 16
    Quote: Mikhail Novikov
    The author, Napoleon Bonaparte, isn't your grandfather?

    Are you joking?
  5. -3
    April 6 2022 16: 19
    We will confine ourselves to Donbass and Lugansk. Nobody was going to take Kyiv by force, just a demonstration of the flag with the collapse of the entire leadership of Ukraine, but it didn’t work out ..... It’s not realistic to take control of the whole of Ukraine with 150 groups, but apparently no more.
    1. +3
      April 6 2022 20: 02
      Then you shouldn't have started at all. It was not necessary to climb near Kyiv, they would have fought only in the Donbass.
      This is a clear example of blatant shortsightedness and incompetence, IMHO.
  6. -2
    April 6 2022 16: 19
    These are all fantasies, the only thing that rehabilitates Shoigu is the defeat of the Donetsk group before May. Then an army reform is required, as after the Soviet-Finnish 39g or the Sino-Vietnamese 79g
    1. +1
      April 6 2022 18: 09
      Then an army reform is required, as after the Soviet-Finnish 39g or the Sino-Vietnamese 79g

      That is, then we will leave and wait for a new one on June 22?
      1. -1
        April 7 2022 01: 02
        After the first days of the operation and glaringly obvious miscalculations, there was hope for the work done on the mistakes and the successful completion of what had been started, but the problems turned out to be so deep that the original plans were absolutely unrealistic.
        A new June 22 is unlikely, if only because the concept of a preemptive strike is envisaged and, as we see it, is being implemented.
        1. +3
          April 7 2022 11: 26
          A new June 22 is unlikely, if only because the concept of a preemptive strike is envisaged and, as we see it, is being implemented.

          It depends on who strikes this preemptive strike first. The weakness shown by the Kremlin provokes aggression. I won't be surprised anymore.

          After the first days of the operation and glaringly obvious miscalculations, there was hope for the work done on the mistakes and the successful completion of what had been started, but the problems turned out to be so deep that the original plans were absolutely unrealistic.

          You know, with such a mood in 1941-1942, we would not have reached Berlin in 1945.
          1. 0
            April 7 2022 13: 04
            The only similarity with the 41st is that the army is not ready for large-scale actions.
            And, personally, you, S. Marzhetsky, consider victory, that is, the fulfillment of all the tasks set in full, inevitable? Then at what cost and in what timeframe?
            1. 0
              April 7 2022 14: 09
              And, personally, you, S. Marzhetsky, consider victory, that is, the fulfillment of all the tasks set in full, inevitable? Then at what cost and in what timeframe?

              You first decipher specifically what you understand by the tasks in full. For example, what is denazification, who and how will it be carried out? What is demilitarization, etc.
              Any price is acceptable for defeating Nazism, especially if Nazism has seized our native land in Ukraine.
              1. 0
                April 7 2022 15: 43
                The task was set by President Putin, the interpretation of the concepts is given in his address, what interpretation causes difficulty for you? Who and how implements this task has already been demonstrated at the first stage.
                For victory at any cost: that is, you allow the disappearance of the nation and state of the Russian Federation for the sake of victory over Ukrainian Nazism?
  7. +1
    April 6 2022 16: 26
    With the forces that are working now, it is impossible in principle to take all the cities of Ukraine, even one by one, and it is not necessary to count on the fact that after the liquidation of the Donetsk group, everyone will raise their hands up.
    1. +1
      April 6 2022 18: 08
      If done in stages, increasing the grouping, then it is possible.
  8. +2
    April 6 2022 16: 50
    Everything is fine, but .... the first point is a complete change in the economic (radically, not cosmetic) and political course within the country, a turn from an oligarchic-feudal class society to a society of social justice, where the interests of the common people of Russia will come first, and not "help" to poor oligarchs and officials and constant "flirting with" our Western colleagues and partners. "May orders" and "national programs" and so on - the best evidence of this. And, paragraph 1 part 2 I - replacing the ideology of self-interest, profit, spiritual strength and crystal bakery with an ideology that is understandable and close to ordinary people, capable of uniting the people in the face of any challenges. then exhortations that we are all "in the same trench" - the Anglo-Portuguese oligarch Abramovich, the "tacit negotiator" of strange negotiations, an "effective manager" like Gref or Nabiullina with one oh, and the soldier Ivan, fighting the Nazis, or a pensioner with a beggarly pension (this is in a country rich in resources) somehow does not inspire confidence. This is not unity. This is solidarism, which has already taken place in history - in Germany, Italy. What came out of it, anyone familiar with the course of the school history textbook knows. So - all other points are doomed to failure, if what determines their execution remains unchanged.
    1. 0
      9 May 2022 06: 13
      Van, what nonsense are you talking, huh? Who are you anyway, bulk dog?
  9. +3
    April 6 2022 17: 00
    Everything is fine, but .... the first point is a complete change in the economic (radically, not cosmetic) and political course within the country, a turn from an oligarchic-feudal class society to a society of social justice, where the interests of the common people of Russia will come first, and not "help" to poor oligarchs and officials and constant "flirting with" our Western colleagues and partners. "May orders" and "national programs" and so on - the best evidence of this. And, paragraph 1 part 2 I - replacing the ideology of self-interest, profit, spiritual strength and crystal bakery with an ideology that is understandable and close to ordinary people, capable of uniting the people in the face of any challenges. then exhortations that we are all "in the same trench" - the Anglo-Portuguese oligarch Abramovich, the "tacit negotiator" of strange negotiations, an "effective manager" like Gref or Nabiullina with one oh, and the soldier Ivan, fighting the Nazis, or a pensioner with a beggarly pension (this is in a country rich in resources) somehow does not inspire confidence. This is not unity. This is solidarism, which has already taken place in history - in Germany, Italy. What came out of it, anyone familiar with the course of the school history textbook knows. So - all other points are doomed to failure, if what determines their execution remains unchanged.
    ps
    meanwhile, someone still continues to toothlessly and pointlessly hope:

    Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow hopes that the EU will not arrange a blockade of Kaliningrad
    The corresponding statement was made by Deputy Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation Alexander Grushko.
    Rossiyskaya Gazeta
    The deputy head of the Russian Foreign Ministry hopes that Europe will not "indulge in any games around Kaliningrad."
    Fifth Channel

    Apparently, neither the loss of the country's assets, nor the start of deliveries of heavy weapons to the Ukronazis, nor Bucha, nor the EU's tacit approval of Kyiv's refusal to comply with the Geneva Convention in relation to our prisoners of war, teach those sitting in high offices anything.
  10. +3
    April 6 2022 23: 27
    The author correctly expresses the main idea. Ukraine must be cleansed by any means, and always with the West. That is completely! And the forces available today cannot cope! We need FULL mobilization, martial law in the country, and the transfer of the economy to a military footing. There is no need to be shy here. The conversation is about the existence of Russia as a state, and there is no time for sentimentality. If NATO does not climb into the bottle, in this case we will deal with crests ourselves, with conventional weapons. In any other option, we will get an even more bloody war after a while.
    1. -1
      9 May 2022 11: 58
      There is no need for complete and even partial mobilization, you just need to strike at the appropriate places of the enemy, otherwise all sorts of Johnsons and others ... often went there.
  11. +2
    April 7 2022 01: 25
    Everything is fine, but there are a number of nuances:
    1. In what form this part of the land will be preserved - will be decided not now, but closer to the end of the operation, depending on the results achieved (Yalta in 1944). And we are at the very beginning. You can promise something, but only specific and understandable things to everyone: “we won’t leave you anymore ..”, for example.
    2. At the same time, cut off from the south, west + Kharkov, etc. - and 300 thousand groups will not be enough. The option is to leave the corridors (and hammer their movements from the air + ambushes), but concentrate on science, on breakthroughs and "boilers". As it turned out in the end. But, as I. Strelkov said, it was necessary to start from the Donbass right away, and not now (then the EU and the SGA could still guess whether the “GDP” would go west or even to Kyiv, or whether there would be negotiations and slow down their sanctions, and our "nabiulins" could manage to convert the currently arrested foreign exchange reserve of 300 billion dollars into yuan or rubles or gold - the dumping of such a volume of dollars and US bonds would already be a good blow to their exchanges. The United States at one time was afraid of this). Now the departure from Kyiv was again miscalculated, turned into a political mistake. It is necessary to stop emotional movements and quickly build up the grouping at times until the “protoukry” trenches all the way to Lvov have been dug up and all the normal ones have not been cut out ... The same Syrian volunteers fired at for a month already under 40 thousand must be given the opportunity to show themselves, and at the BV theater after returning home, these ally units will be a powerful force. Not too much. Paphos, but a fact: "Brotherhood, sealed by blood" is the strongest. What are we waiting for again...
    1. 0
      April 7 2022 14: 10
      At the same time cut off from the south, west + Kharkov, etc. - and 300 thousand groups will not be enough.

      Not simultaneously, but gradually. 1,2, 3, 4, 5.
      1. +1
        April 8 2022 01: 43
        Sergey, there is a risk - the more phased, the longer, and longer means worse: for NATO and others, this means that the RF Armed Forces are not such a hard nut to crack, but for us - what will happen to the economy and demography during this time - any war depletes …
        Just speed up. We’ve already rested for a week, restarting the SVO again from the Donbass and then only disperse the “nah western” ice rink until we hit NATO ... and in the settlements “next in line” right now to get (at least buy) the archives of the SBU and clean out the most rabid SBU and Natsiks ( AKs were handed out to everyone, the "war" will write off) - let them run and look around instead of mobilizing and landing. Petrov - Boshirov and K should come in handy someday. Yes, and bring the formula to mind on full-scale experiments (otherwise all the time different creaks somehow survive .. (((
        sorry for the dark humor, couldn't resist

        It is better to pull all rotten teeth at once, and not one at a time ...
  12. +2
    April 7 2022 02: 39
    Urgently bomb the Nazi nests in the west without sparing anyone
  13. +1
    April 7 2022 03: 10
    Why, having air superiority, did they not immediately begin to resolve the issue of eliminating military support from the west? As far as I understand, the railway operates from the border with Poland and Kiev, and the redeployment of troops from near Kyiv? Of course, we do not know much, but the tragedy in Bucha is a reason for the Nazis to further atrocities.
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  15. 0
    April 7 2022 06: 30
    Quote: Krapilin
    And against this type of weapon there are no effective means of "quick" counteraction.
    Unless, of course, destroy "all together."

    There is such a very effective remedy. In the direction of the blowing wind, spray sleeping gases that are harmless to humans. Put to sleep and put handcuffs on those who need it. That's the whole short time! And there is no need to invent something that has already been there for a long time.
  16. +2
    April 7 2022 08: 11
    After our common people talk enough with the Nazis, after 3-4 provocations like Buchi, after it reaches the wise men that all agreements with drug addicts end with a new dose ...
  17. +3
    April 7 2022 08: 40
    Putin is OBLIGED to take ALL UKRAINE!!! Without this, the task of DENACITING this communist-Bolshevik territorial entity is IMPOSSIBLE!!!! The first mistake made by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief was the combination of COMBAT ACTIONS with HUMANITARIAN ISSUES. Both with the civilian population and with those who took up arms. If Putin wants big losses among his military forces, then you can return the LDNR to their administrative borders and leave from there. But then Putin and his Party will lose power in Russia not in 2024, but much earlier. A liberal party, such as the "MIRA" party surrounded by the President, which gives him such advice, will also not be in power. And they will be swept away. There is a WAR not with Ukraine, but with the USA and its vassals and slaves. And if this is not clear in the Kremlin, then you immediately remember Stalin - "... Cadres decide everything ..." and we will lose Russia. Unfortunately.
    1. +1
      April 7 2022 11: 16
      Quote: Anatoly
      Putin is OBLIGED to take ALL UKRAINE!!!

      this is how it works, because:
      - the calculation for the opposition of the local population to the Ukrainian authorities did not materialize (command miscalculation or fear / degree of zombie population / youth of Ukraine!?).
      - plus the flow of Western weapons / political support,
      - the possibilities of the Russian economy.
      I will assume that even the defeat / capitulation of the Donetsk group will not cool Kyiv and the curator much. we'll see soon.

  18. +3
    April 7 2022 09: 24
    Our king has other plans. He's busy with multi-move. No matter how much the West is not very angry and that their own people do not blather too much.
  19. -1
    April 7 2022 11: 07
    Why should we take Kyiv? There is not even neon (gas). Well, really - why capture it?
  20. +2
    April 7 2022 11: 24
    Quote from avasurtr
    Why should we take Kyiv? There is not even neon (gas). Well, really - why capture it?

    To eliminate the hostile Nazi regime. Just imagine what Comrade did to you. Stalin, if in 1945 you would have told him something like that. And he would be absolutely right.
  21. 0
    April 7 2022 13: 06
    Perhaps the first case when I completely agree with the author. A good article, one feels that the author is a patriot, and he is sincere!
    Unfortunately, even though I am a small military fry in reserve, I think that we are late with mobilization. Painfully slowly, our plunging power began to react at a time when military, economic, informational actions are unfolding so rapidly!
    I believe that without mobilization, at least partial, only a rude and clumsy response in the form of a strike on railway and air hubs in Poland and the threat of an instantaneous use of a nuclear bomb on the American pentagon can be dispensed with if NATO continues to participate in the conflict. At the same time, demand the withdrawal of NATO troops to the level of 1997, to hell.
  22. -2
    April 7 2022 13: 16
    Sergei Marzhetsky,
    The operation that you proposed to carry out in Ukraine until October 2022. Calculations:
    1. The losses of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the National Guard will amount to about 50 killed and about 000 wounded.
    Let me remind you the standards of war:
    a) Fight with a entrenched enemy loss 1 to 3.
    (The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are advancing - which means that for 1 killed Ukrainian they will lose 3 x Russians.)
    ....Further:
    b) killed to wounded: for 1 killed 3 wounded.
    ....Further:
    c) for 1 killed 4 patients (long-term treatment in the hospital, a total of 200 sick soldiers).
    2. Financial costs: Modern warfare is NOT cheap. 1 day of active war costs about 1 billion USD. According to your plan, the active phase of the war is about 8 months. = 240 billion USD.
    3. The financial costs of supplying the population of a devastated country with food: (in Ukraine now there are about 35 million, it is clear that in the active phase the people will run to the EU, but about 20 million will definitely remain (old people, children, the sick - where should they run?)
    So, feed 20 million people (even if bread and doshirak and that's it, 3 times a day: 230 rubles x 240 days (8 months) = 55 rubles / 200 ($ exchange rate) = 90 USD x 613 million people = 20 .12,3 billion USD
    4. The food was considered good. Now drinking water. An active war will destroy the country's water supply system! Water will have to be transported and supplied by special pipelines from the Dnieper and other rivers. For millions of people!
    This is not dry food to distribute in the village. Approximately it will require costs of 400 million USD.

    TOTAL: your plan will cost Russia: about 50 dead, 000 wounded and crippled, 150 sick.
    Costs: (direct costs without the cost of killed vehicles) = 252 BILLION USD.
    Let me remind you: ALL foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation = 315 billion USD
    And they didn’t count other costs: from diesel fuel and gasoline to gas, transportation costs, medicines ....
    It turns out that such an operation will lead the Russian Federation to complete bankruptcy.
    Conclusion: Putin is right that he is trying to conclude an early truce (understandably, by May 9, the People need to be told about the victory in the Special Operation,)))
    If a truce is NOT concluded, then the losses will increase (spring and greenery will drastically complicate the war for the Russian troops).
    And the cost of the war will lead Russia to bankruptcy.
    Such a position. We need peace or a truce URGENTLY.
    1. 0
      April 7 2022 14: 15
      Sergei Marzhetsky,
      The operation that you proposed to carry out in Ukraine until October 2022. Calculations:
      1. The losses of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the National Guard will amount to about 50 killed and about 000 wounded.
      Let me remind you the standards of war:
      a) Fight with a entrenched enemy loss 1 to 3.
      (The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are advancing - which means that for 1 killed Ukrainian they will lose 3 x Russians.)
      ....Further:
      b) killed to wounded: for 1 killed 3 wounded.

      You immediately started with slyness. You do not take into account that the RF Armed Forces are qualitatively superior to the Armed Forces of Ukraine in terms of heavy weapons, and have complete air superiority, tactical and strategic aviation, therefore your calculations are untenable.

      Costs: (direct costs without the cost of killed vehicles) = 252 BILLION USD.
      Let me remind you: ALL foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation = 315 billion USD
      And they didn’t count other costs: from diesel fuel and gasoline to gas, transportation costs, medicines ....
      It turns out that such an operation will lead the Russian Federation to complete bankruptcy.
      Conclusion: Putin is right that he is trying to conclude an early truce (understandably, by May 9, the People need to be told about the victory in the Special Operation,)))
      If a truce is NOT concluded, then the losses will increase (spring and greenery will drastically complicate the war for the Russian troops).
      And the cost of the war will lead Russia to bankruptcy.

      It's all demagogy. You do not consider how much all the imposed sanctions will cost the Russian economy, which no one will lift. What will happen to the military budget and the combat effectiveness of the RF Armed Forces under conditions of sequestration in 5 years, when will the second stage of the war begin with an unfinished enemy, whom NATO will pump up with weapons?

      Such a position. Peace or truce is needed URGENTLY

      It's just another excuse for zrada.
    2. -1
      9 May 2022 12: 10
      Are you by any chance Arestovich? Your call for surrender is ... you can replace the ellipsis with any obscene language prohibited here and it will be correct.
  23. 0
    April 7 2022 15: 18
    It's time to connect the Belarusian comrades-allies. Otherwise, we will achieve mobilization. It's time to fight at full strength, using everything we have. In general, something was not calculated to the end ...
  24. 0
    April 7 2022 15: 21
    We need to end this war quickly and victoriously. Otherwise, Russia will come Khan, economic and military.
  25. 0
    April 8 2022 09: 34
    As long as people like Peskov do not swing on the Arbat lantern, we will not achieve anything
    1. -1
      9 May 2022 12: 13
      Peskov is a patriot, he was just scared.
  26. 0
    April 8 2022 14: 48
    Quote: Krapilin
    Dear Sergey Marzhetsky!

    ................. And not the Russian Foreign Minister to tell Russian citizens how he is very worried in negotiations with drug addicts and fascists about whether Kyiv recognizes Crimea as Russian or not.

    Uh, exactly!
  27. 0
    April 8 2022 15: 05
    Quote: Yuri V.A.
    The task was set by President Putin, the interpretation of the concepts is given in his address, what interpretation causes difficulty for you? Who and how implements this task has already been demonstrated at the first stage.
    For victory at any cost: that is, you allow the disappearance of the nation and state of the Russian Federation for the sake of victory over Ukrainian Nazism?

    In fact, the whole president, Vladimir Putin, said - "A". If he has thoughts of saying "B", then it's time for him to say "... I'm tired" and make room for a more worthy candidate. Or is it so simple - broke Emelya - your week ......?
  28. 0
    April 10 2022 03: 14
    I mostly agree with the author, except for "cutting off" Western Ukraine. In this case, having a narrow strip of their troops, they will have to fight both to the west and to the east (with Central Ukraine).
    It is urgent to strike from Belarus along the Ukrainian-NATO border. Take full control of the western border. This will prevent all kinds of supplies to the Nazis, and will also save a lot of effort, because. the front will need to be kept only in the direction of Central Ukraine (NATO members will squeal very loudly, but will not dare to enter the hot phase).
  29. +1
    April 10 2022 12: 04
    Yes that's right. To begin with, Russia must clearly state what it wants and how it will go towards its goal. When Putin declares that the goal is denazification, and at the same time it is reported that Russia is not going to occupy Ukraine, then the question arises, who will carry out this denazification? For a whole month, Russia did not even bother to organize its administration in the conquered Ukrainian territories, where the Ukronazis again raised their heads. The inhabitants of the Azov region, and even more so the Donbass, must know for sure whether Russia will abandon them or not. What we are hearing from Medinsky, Peskov and Lavrov are persistent attempts to impose Minsk-3 on Kiev, which will mean the arrival of a small furry animal for the Russian World. Well, at least the people of Kiev were completely blown away and they don’t even go for it, give them everything at once.
    1. +2
      6 May 2022 00: 26
      Demeter
      Our president correctly said that Russia is not going to occupy Ukraine. Otherwise, it will be necessary to admit that Russia has occupied Crimea and the republics of Donbass. Putin cannot at the moment say that in the course of the operation, the regions of the left bank, having rejected the Bandera collar, will themselves be asked to go to Russia. This means that voluntary entry is no longer an occupation. Civil-military administrations have long been established in the reclaimed territories. So everything has its time. And where did you get the idea that someone is imposing Minsk-3 on someone? Do you understand that it's just a utopia? Where the Russian soldier came and shed his blood there, he will never leave from there!
  30. 0
    April 16 2022 12: 01
    Everything that the author wrote in his opus is the nonsense of a crazy provocateur!
    It is too far from real events. People don't believe him. This is just a liberal lie.
    My son is fighting there and I better know what is there and how!
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