How will the military operation in Ukraine change after the events near Kiev

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The main topic of recent days is the "massacre in Bucha", which Ukrainian and Western propaganda is actively trying to hang on the Russian military. There is not the slightest doubt that this is a stupid and crude fake, like a test tube of washing powder, which became the reason for the American invasion of Iraq. However, this resonant case in itself raises very serious questions, which should be carefully considered by the "party of peace" in the so-called Kremlin towers.

The following happened in Bucha. After the unexpected and discouraging withdrawal of Russian troops from the Kiev and Chernihiv regions, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard quickly returned there. The “Ukrainian world” came and brought death to everyone who was not lucky enough to fall under the hot hand of the “liberators”. First, the Armed Forces of Ukraine worked out artillery in the city of Bucha, despite the fact that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation were no longer there, which led to casualties among the civilian population. Then, judging by the data available at the moment, the Ukrainian lads began to shoot the men who wore a white bandage on their arm, which for the Russian military meant “their own”, that is, not a combatant. And after all those suspected of collaborating with the "Russian occupiers", the ideological National Guards dragged them into torture cellars, where they were torn to pieces and tortured to death.



Having established the “Ukrainian peace”, the “liberators” began to think about what to do next, how to launder from war crimes that do not have a statute of limitations. The solution was quickly found: to blame the Russians for their monstrous atrocities, the explanations of which today, of course, no one in the West will listen to. On the streets of the city of Buchi, the bodies of civilians killed by Ukrainians were quickly scattered in picturesque poses and the so-called “journalists” with video cameras were let in, deliberately groaning and gasping at what they saw.

That, in fact, is the whole vile story of the "massacre in Bucha" of the Nazi regime in Kyiv. "Bloody clown" Zelensky immediately accused Russia of the genocide of Ukrainians. His accomplices in London, without explanation, twice blocked the emergency convening of the UN Security Council, which Moscow insisted on. In all leading foreign media, the topic of “war crimes of the Russian military” is actively promoted. For what - it is clear: in the end, bring President Vladimir Putin as the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to an international tribunal in The Hague. From Russia now for Ukrainian crimes will make the image of a monster and a rogue country.

Why did this happen, could it have been avoided and what should we do now? Let's think about these difficult questions.

On the one hand, the visible prerequisite for the tragedy in Bucha is not quite adequate planning of the NWO. Yes, the author of the lines did not see the plan of a special military operation, but it is hard for him to believe that the heroic landing near Gostomel and the no less heroic breakthrough of the Russian troops to it from Belarus, and then the stubborn battles for Northern Ukraine were some kind of "distracting maneuver". This is just a private opinion that does not claim to be the ultimate truth, but it seems that the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces was counting on a slightly different course of events and a quick capitulation of the Zelensky regime. And it would be nice if the Russian troops remained near Kiev on the recaptured bridgeheads, but they were simply forced to urgently break loose and rush to the Donbass, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine created an inevitable humanitarian catastrophe by cutting off water supplies to the DPR and dilapidated Mariupol, which is about to come under the control of the Russian Armed Forces. Why did this happen, we disassembled earlier.

It was a hard choice, and one that had even worse consequences. The cities of Kiev and Chernihiv regions that had been liberated from the Nazi regime came back under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard, who immediately massacred them there, blaming the Russians for it. The worst nightmare came true for adequate Ukrainians, who were afraid that the Russian troops, having completed the tasks assigned to them, would leave. And so they really left Northern Ukraine, and we all saw what this led to. Unfortunately, now in the same Kherson region or in the south of Zaporozhye, local residents will think a thousand times whether it is worth cooperating with Moscow. Such, alas, are the long-term consequences of the "massacre in Bucha".

On the other hand, with all the negatives from what happened, there are some positives in it. Now in the "Kremlin towers" they must certainly understand that the West is leading the case to the international tribunal in The Hague for war crimes in Ukraine. And with these people, someone else wants to negotiate? “Hanger of memorial plaques” Medinsky sees some other constructive in the negotiations from Kyiv? Does Mr. Peskov want to sign something with President Zelensky as a result of the SVO? And what will this piece of paper cost? Will we outsource the denazification of Ukraine to the most criminal Kiev regime?

What happened in Bucha will be repeated wherever the Russian troops now retreat, which means that it is no longer possible to retreat anywhere and never. Under no circumstances should a single piece of Ukrainian land be left to the Nazi regime, because otherwise everything that happened there will subsequently be used against us. The Kremlin should directly announce its future plans for the already liberated territories of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, so that people know what awaits them and give guarantees for their safety.

There are only two options for further events: either Moscow is backing away, leading policies compromise with Kiev, signing meaningless paperwork, and the case eventually ends with an international tribunal in The Hague against Russia, or the RF Armed Forces take control of the entire former Square and themselves hold a tribunal over the criminal Kiev regime, adding “the massacre in Bucha” to the list of charges . Preferably in Donetsk, where there is no moratorium on the death penalty.
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  1. +5
    April 5 2022 15: 06
    one never ceases to be surprised how much Ukraine has fallen, has already sunk, and the collective West too. this is definitely the time of the villains
    1. +4
      April 5 2022 16: 36
      Ukraine rose only on the words of Soviet propaganda. crests are the same as during the massacre in Uman as now.
    2. +5
      April 5 2022 22: 02
      Too unexpectedly, our people left these villages, civilians did not have time to remove their bandages (obviously they did not know) - this is almost a betrayal for the local residents, but politically at least a mistake - it is clearly visible that "we are not here for long ...".

      If you climbed in with both feet, it’s too late to jump over bumps, you’ll have to drain and rake out the whole swamp ..
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      3. +3
        April 5 2022 22: 40
        Quote: Vladimir Orlov
        If you climbed in with both feet, it’s too late to jump over bumps, you’ll have to drain and rake out the whole swamp ..

      4. -1
        April 6 2022 00: 23
        Too unexpectedly, ours left ...

        At the talks in Turkey, ours said about the withdrawal of troops.
        Now in Moscow, obviously, they will draw conclusions from what happened so that this does not happen in the future.
  2. -8
    April 5 2022 15: 42
    On the other hand, with all the negatives from what happened, there are some positives in it. Now in the "Kremlin towers" they must certainly understand that the West is leading the case to the international tribunal in The Hague for war crimes in Ukraine.

    In all leading foreign media, the topic of “war crimes of the Russian military” is actively promoted. For what, it is clear: in the end, to bring President Vladimir Putin as the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to an international tribunal in The Hague.

    - No - it means absolutely nothing!
    - A game is being played in which Russia loses - but the players remain!
    - USA (NATO) - Ukraine does not need a winner - The United States needs a losing Russia, which the USA can get! - And Ukraine becomes just an unnecessary "extra link"! - The Russian oligarchs have already surrendered our guarantor, but he still remains the official authority and the figure needed for the United States - therefore, there will be no The Hague! - Most likely, the United States will get rid of the clown Ze and the topic of Ukraine will be closed forever! - Ukraine will turn into Yugoslavia, where hostilities will smolder between the unfinished Nazis and other residents - and the US (NATO) will also try to get rid of the Nazis as soon as possible!
    - And what will happen to the losing Russia??? - They will try to divide Russia territorially into several parts - after all, this is the only way Russia can be torn off from China! - And maybe the US will provoke a military conflict between Russia and China!
    - In a word, in this conflict, Russia will become the "new Ukraine" - and China will take the place of Russia!
    1. -12
      April 5 2022 15: 49
      dilapidated Mariupol, which is about to come under the control of the RF Armed Forces.

      - Most likely, Mariupol will not be taken - apparently R. Akhmetov still managed to turn the tide there! - And there soon all these actions will be localized, stopped and "canned"!
      - Well, the special operation itself "has reached a dead end" - and soon the "period of continuous negotiations and meetings" will begin - in which Russia has always lost! - So ........
      1. +1
        April 5 2022 18: 19
        Irina, do not read. Better pay your attention, as soon as suspicions arise that the military special operation in Ukraine may be curtailed or even stopped, an information attack to incite hatred begins. Either the whole of Ukraine was raped, or the Russian army left its positions with its tail between its legs, and so on.

        Let me remind you that threats with atomic weapons and preparations for a large-scale invasion of Donbas became the reason for launching this operation.

        The special operation is being carried out and will continue to be carried out as Russia wants it to be.

        PS This applies to both sides of the civil war in Ukraine.
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        2. +1
          April 5 2022 22: 45
          Quote: isofat
          The special operation is being carried out and will continue to be carried out as Russia wants it to be.

    2. +1
      April 6 2022 22: 32
      And do not dream!
  3. +3
    April 5 2022 17: 23
    The question arises - how is the top leadership of military operations punished now for serious miscalculations that lead to heavy losses for the country?
    What are these people risking in case of negligent, unprofessional and irresponsible attitude?
    During the Great Patriotic War, belonging to the high command did not save from mortal risk. For mistakes in the management of operations, the commanders were imprisoned and shot, demoted to the rank and file, and sent to the penal battalion.
    It was FAIR, given the death of privates and officers at the front. In the whole country there was no escape from the utmost exertion of forces. The leadership of the troops was in full view of the whole country, his mistakes too.
    On one of the last broadcasts, visiting Vladimir Solovyov, Karen Shakhnazarov expressed surprise that the public in Russia does not know the people who are in charge of the special operation in Ukraine. Everyone knows only Konoshenkov. I think that in the West those who command the operation are well known - only we do not know them.
    Our country has come a long way of disintegration and irresponsibility, which has not yet been fully completed. The attitude of people brought up on this road to their cause will not necessarily be enough for a war to the death for the existence of Russia.
    We are already Waging THIS BATTLE, we are suffering losses, and the country cannot wait. Also, how can not depend on their mistakes. We need to CHANGE if we are to survive and win, and we need to do it NOW
    1. -2
      April 5 2022 18: 21
      We are already Waging THIS BATTLE, we are suffering losses, and the country cannot wait. Also, how can not depend on their mistakes. We need to CHANGE if we are to survive and win, and we need to do it NOW

      - Late ; it's too late "NOW" to try to change anything!!!
      - All these wishes and talk about the need to change and do something - turned into an ordinary "sacrifice"; which will never change anything!
      - It is worth watching our Russian TV channels, where they discuss current events - and where everyone understands - what is really happening and everyone understands perfectly well - what our (so-called) - our "Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation" is like - but they continue to "kamlat"! - Especially unpleasant is V.A. Nikonov, who hosts the program "The Great Game"! - All these "political heralds" are counting on the fact that they will all be able to sit out - and the president will be responsible for everything!
      - Why did this happen? - But because everything in Russia was run (and run) by oligarchs; who benefited from the fact that in Russia there were - both weak intelligence and weak counterintelligence and other power structures; so that without any problems wrap their affairs; do whatever you want (it’s easy to get public finances out of control, move any money abroad without any problems, register any real estate, avoid paying taxes, etc., etc., and at the same time be inaccessible to the power structures of the Russian Federation!
      - Personally, I - I absolutely do not understand - what our intelligence was doing in Ukraine - that the entire residency could not establish the state of affairs in Ukraine through its network ??? - Personally, I do not exclude moments of betrayal in the ranks of our responsible persons! Otherwise, how could this be? - A special operation has begun - and our troops do not know the state of affairs !!! - What's that all about! - Well, then they would go to fortune-tellers, or something !!! - I don’t want to talk about our army - it suffers such losses due to illiterate command! - I don’t know - in order to achieve something and change for the better - it is urgent to change many in our General Staff! - But why this does not happen - it's just a mystery!
      1. -1
        April 5 2022 18: 37
        Irina, it is very likely that in this information battle you were seriously wounded, in the head. I'm right? smile love
        1. +1
          April 6 2022 19: 18
          Quote: isofat
          Irina, it is very likely that in this information battle you were seriously wounded, in the head. I'm right? smile love

          She had problems with her head before the injury. laughing
      2. -2
        April 5 2022 18: 56
        Quote: gorenina91
        V.A. Nikonov is especially unpleasant,

        why? he never changed his position, and then he fell into disgrace

        Quote: gorenina91
        she suffers such losses due to illiterate command!

        tell the source of information, we will finally find out the truth
    2. -2
      April 5 2022 19: 09
      how much time has passed with the promise to find out who sent the conscripts to the war? Do you think they are looking for? What is there to look for. You can just read the order. It has long been possible to understand and punish. But still they understand that just like that, the commander of some military unit is unlikely to have decided at his own peril and risk to send young people to war. And it is obvious that they gave him super powers, promising that they would take responsibility. They were going to cheat and capture Zelensky in a maximum of a week. Now everyone is trying to silence the topic. As well as the topic of rescuing foreigners from Mariupol by Erdogan .. and the explosion in Berdyansk BDK ...
      1. 0
        April 7 2022 01: 50
        As well as the topic of saving foreigners from Mariupol by Erdogan

        If they really did, then it can safely be called a betrayal. NATO members directly led the defense of the Nazis for at least a month. It was necessary to pull them out on public display, conduct an investigation and show them in all hemispheres. That would be the best evidence. And in their homeland they would also be condemned, or at least they would raise questions to their prime ministers. And now ours will be dragged to The Hague, and even mostly for fakes ...
        It's a shame, we are led by "drainers"
  4. +2
    April 5 2022 17: 42
    Having established the Ukrainian peace, the "liberators" began to think about what to do next ....

    And what kind of "Ukrainian world" can the inhabitants of Galicia, born in Austria-Hungary, imprisoned by their masters since 1914 for fierce hatred of other nationalities - Rusyns, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Jews? Galicians hate Ukrainians just as much as they do Russians and Belarusians, since the time of the Galicia-Volyn principality, and therefore they now do not care who they kill in this war, sowing death and devastation after themselves, but only to their "huts" in Lvov , Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil, and we had to start from their "homeland of their ancestors" - Galicia, and the homeland of the SS division "Galicia", then they would not have gone to where they now have to "smoke"
    1. +1
      April 6 2022 13: 19
      Quote: Valentine
      and we had to start from their "homeland of their ancestors" - Galicia, and the homeland of the SS division "Galicia", then they would not have trodden there, from where they now have to be "smoke out"

      well, yes, as an option, initially transfer the grouping instead of Chernigov / sum / Kyiv to Brest, and from there to the south along the border with Poland, then supply only through Belarus
      1. 0
        April 7 2022 01: 38
        It could be. But obviously there were fears that the Poles would either intervene or arrange provocations. And apparently our commanders still lacked a bit of audacity.
  5. +4
    April 5 2022 18: 21
    Very correct conclusion! Any surrender of settlements is a new Bucha. And our shot fighters (prisoners) during the retreat, this is generally the edge. Here the commander needs to shoot.
  6. 0
    April 5 2022 19: 18
    - How will it change?
    Will change, taking into account the American-Ukrainian bloody provocation near Kiev.
    Russia will take action and this situation will not happen again.
    There were fakes coming out before this provocation. The USA and England have put ukrofayki on stream.
    And the main operation did not stop and will continue according to plan.
    Time and area.
    - We thank the Russian military for the HEROISM and COURAGE shown in the fight against the American Nazi Bandera mercenaries.
    Zelensky, ministers, rulers of various ranks, deputies of the Rada, SBU, come out warriors, Nazis - MERCENES whom the United States recruited and sent to fight against their own people and against Russia.
    They are all US mercenaries.
    The United States pays them in dollars, prepared and armed to the teeth for atrocities and murders.
    The United States is directly responsible for all these atrocities. The United States has its hands in the blood of the Ukrainian people.
    They want to fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.
    - It is necessary to DESTROY the American mercenaries and bring them to the Donbass military tribunal.
    Russia will win!
  7. +2
    April 5 2022 20: 29
    So far, everything is not simple: either Russia, the DPR and the LPR have surrounded and destroyed the main Ukrainian troops in the Donbass during these months, or, as our generals say, we are moving to another level - a full-fledged war, mobilization and complete defeat of Ukraine with the surrender of Ukraine. Of course, I want to believe in the first option.
  8. -1
    April 5 2022 20: 36
    All the arguments about the operation are just speculations of all sorts of political scientists, experts and TV presenters. No one from the leadership of the Defense Ministry will ever voice plans. And stop whining.
  9. +1
    April 5 2022 21: 25
    Now in the “Kremlin towers” ​​they should certainly understand that the West is leading the case to the international tribunal in The Hague for war crimes in Ukraine

    Unfortunately, no one understands this and will not understand.
  10. 0
    April 6 2022 15: 28
    And who is to blame, we are Russia and Mr. Putin.
    1. +2
      April 6 2022 15: 35
      Explain to me what Mr. Putin wants - to liberate Ukraine? With our capabilities, this is two weeks. Destroying Russia is also not a problem! Lose allies, in a month we will lose! What?
  11. 0
    April 6 2022 16: 48
    While traitors are sitting in the towers, nothing shines for Russia. Unfortunately, there is no light at the end of the tunnel yet.
  12. 0
    April 6 2022 19: 39
    You betrayed us in 2014 and now you are behaving inappropriately, you have destroyed the entire pro-Russian South-East idiots !!!!
  13. This time I agree with the author in everything.
  14. 0
    April 10 2022 16: 00
    https://t.me/yurasumy/3022
    forwarded from Evgeny Bilchenko:

    I convey the letter of a compatriot:

    CRY FROM THE HEART. "Russian Orcs", Dear ones, Good - don't stop!

    "This was sent to me by my friend from Kyiv, Father Roman. A housemate writes, and the priest himself had to flee with his family."

    "Good afternoon. I am a citizen of Ukraine, I am in Kyiv. We evacuated from Bucha on March 12.

    Our house (250 apartments) is completely looted. The Ukrainian press accuses the "Russian orcs" of plundering Bucha, and people believed it... But, a week has passed, and those single neighbors who still live in the house, in a whisper after you swear by Mom, the health of your children, and all the saints, horrified by the lawlessness they have seen, tell the Truth...

    The Russians left Bucha on 30 March. And on the 31st, in the evening, the looting began. A brigade of more than 10 people in civilian clothes worked, but they were guarded and commanded by the military of the Armed Forces of Ukraine around the clock. At night by headlamps.

    They ransacked our house for three days (April 31, 1 and 2). All apartments were broken into and looted except for those four where there were people. Everyone knows about it, but they are silent. Even those whose relatives serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the police are silent! Everyone is immersed in animal fear! When women come up to them, they bow and with horror in their eyes begin to cry and say "Thank you" in a trembling voice. Such a reaction because they know that those whom we consider ours are killed immediately without warning.

    Four out of six corpses found in the basement of a neighboring house were identified yesterday in Bucha. Two of them turned out to be door installers, and two were locksmiths! This is the elimination of witnesses, marauders who worked for three days for the "commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine"! (break down apartment doors)

    Now also, our family has (or rather had) a dacha in a large village near Kiev. Phoned a neighbor. The village is destroyed, every 3rd house. Many people evacuated. Only those who have a cow remain ...

    Our village was robbed by units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which entered as soon as the Russian troops withdrew!!! Ten days. All houses are broken into and robbed!!! People are silent. A neighbor with small grandchildren went to Malin to his daughter, and handed over the cow and chickens to the care of a neighbor ... The neighbor saw that even furniture was being taken out of his house by "ours" and ran to them: "Boys, why are you robyte, we are our own She was immediately shot under the fence... And her husband too!

    Why was Baba Masha killed??? Her milk cows mooed heart-rendingly for three days all over the district, because the neighbors were afraid to leave the hut even to go to the toilet, and went to the pot... On the third day, the warriors of light took pity and cut the throats of the poor cows... our village had 70-80 people. And they all robbed and killed!

    Do you think that Ukraine is fascism? No, this is not fascism ... The Nazis did not rob or kill their own! This Satanism is fierce, senseless and merciless! They are not "ours", they are nonhumans!!! They couldn’t help but understand that in the village, though few, there are still people left... even though they sit in their huts and see what you have been doing these ten days with our village!!! Neighbors see your crimes... ki.

    There are about 3000 people left in Bucha, and about 40 in our village. People have seen everything, and they know everything and will tell everything!!! You will not kill all the witnesses of your fierce Satanism? And even if you come back, you won't kill everyone! The people cannot be killed... Thank God that it occurred to someone to withdraw the Russian troops from Kyiv... This decision is God's admonition... It put everything in its place...

    And most importantly. Over the past three weeks, our family has lost everything: an apartment that we paid for 17 years, we built a summer house for 20 years, investing our souls, a car - everything ... But, Thank God, the children survived.

    I still have trousers, shoes, a shirt and only shorts... I will survive this... Because I had a Dream... that "Russian orcs" will be given by God, will return to my beloved Kyiv, to my Bucha, to my village, and I will be able to sign up as a private with them in order to free my Batkivshchyna, my Motherland from the fierce Satanism that tormented our house in Bucha for three days, and tortured my beloved village for ten days ...
    Please, "Russian Orcs", Dear ones, Good ones, don't stop... For Christ's sake Dear ones!
    Please publish my letter. I am now in Kyiv, and I cannot announce it myself."
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