NATO may supply Ukraine with fighter jets and pilots


In the course of a special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, noticeable changes took place. The criminal regime of President Zelensky did not succeed in “frightening” by surrounding Kyiv. Or rather, his overseas masters did not allow him to capitulate, "stoned" and demoralized. On the contrary, on their orders, the Armed Forces of Ukraine cut off water supplies to the Donbass, causing an inevitable humanitarian catastrophe, forcing Russian troops to withdraw and rush from the north to eastern Ukraine, where a general battle is to take place in the next one to two weeks.


Who is who?


The goal of the “servant of the people” puppeteers is obvious: to drag out the campaign as much as possible, to harden the opposing sides and force them to shed as much blood as possible. “Inhumans” is the mildest word that can be used to describe the customers of this meat grinder, where two parts of one large people, but divided by neo-Nazi ideology, are forced to come together. And these are not some abstract figures pulling the strings from behind the scenes. They have specific names and surnames.

The frontman of this anti-Russian coalition is, of course, President Joe Biden. The head of the White House, who already knows little, is a representative of the US Democratic Party, responsible for a huge number of crimes around the world: coups d'état, illegal military interventions and the occupation of sovereign countries. It was the American Democrats who stood behind the Maidan in 2014, and it was they who incited Ukraine to the DPR, LPR and Russia, ultimately forcing the Kremlin to decide on its demilitarization and denazification.

The second "bloody ghoul" is the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Boris Johnson. Under him, Great Britain began an active expansion into Ukraine, signing an agreement on military-technical cooperation (against Russia, of course). Near Ochakovo, construction began on a naval base on the Black Sea for the needs of the British fleet. It is Prime Minister Johnson personally who opposes any reconciliation between Kyiv and Moscow and is ready to start supplying heavy weapons to Ukraine. So, in order to hold Odessa, London is ready to transfer Harpoon anti-ship missiles, counter-battery weapons against the RF Armed Forces and loitering ammunition, anti-tank systems and MANPADS to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Also, the British media report on the possibility of deliveries of Brimstone homing air-to-ground missiles, which we will discuss in more detail later.

Another "benefactor" of Nezalezhnaya is the new Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, Olaf Scholz. With great pleasure, freed "from the feeling of historical guilt before Russia", he is ready to transfer 58 PbV-501 armored personnel carriers (the German version of the BMP-1) to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Of particular benefit from obsolete equipment will not, it will only lead to an increase in casualties among the Ukrainian military, but the main thing for Herr Scholz is participation. I wonder what position Germany would take under Frau Merkel?

What's the use?


The domestic expert community is now actively discussing what real contribution Western models of heavy weapons can make to the course of hostilities in Ukraine. Opinions were divided.

On the one hand, large-sized foreign equipment as a target does not fundamentally differ from those types of weapons that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have. In the event of a hit by cruise missiles or aircraft, it will burn in exactly the same way. It will be only for our intelligence and target designation. In addition, foreign military equipment would still be nice to be able to manage. Yes, the Ukrainian army began to be transferred to NATO standards, but hardly many of them are able to sit down and launch the anti-ship Harpoon at the bull's-eye.

On the other hand, considerations of precisely this order raise a host of unpleasant questions. For example, the Harpoon missile exists in three main modifications: aviation, ship-based, and submarine-based. These anti-ship missiles are in service with the United States, Great Britain and many other countries, but in Ukraine something is not observed for them suitable carriers. The same can be said about Brimstone homing air-to-ground missiles, which we mentioned above.

How is it supposed that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will use them against the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation? Under the conditions of the blockade of Odessa, a ship or submarine that can act as a carrier for the Harpoon missile cannot be delivered there. You can't train competent specialists to manage them in a couple of days. Air-based missiles remain an exception, but you can’t hang them on old Soviet aircraft, and how many of these aircraft do the Armed Forces of Ukraine have left?

Flying Tigers 2?


Involuntarily, bad thoughts creep in that the Anglo-Saxons can pull off the same trick that the Americans did in 1941-1942. The Japanese then terrorized the weak Chinese air force with near impunity, and as a countermeasure, it was proposed to create a volunteer air force unit of the American Volunteer Group (AVG), dubbed the Flying Tigers.

Experienced US Air Force pilots went on vacation and, as volunteers, entered into contracts with the Chinese firm CAMCO (Central Aircraft Manufacturing Company). They fought against the Japanese on American P-40C Tomahawk aircraft, bought by the government of Chiang Kai-shek on credit from the United States itself. For each aircraft destroyed, "vacationers" received a bonus of $500. The "Flying Tigers" made a serious contribution to the fight against the Japanese and subsequently officially became part of the US Army Ground Army.

Why was this excursion into history? Moreover, there are no other real options for foreign aircraft carrying modern cruise missiles to appear in the sky over Ukraine. Only used Lend-Lease fighters and “Ihtamnets” hostile to us, not formally associated with the NATO bloc.
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  1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) April 4 2022 15: 54
    +1
    It is necessary to foresee such an option in advance and so that this does not become an unpleasant surprise for us, prepare the most effective answers to it in advance, but the fact that it will be necessary to quickly increase the capabilities of our air defense forces and means is simply unequivocal.
  2. Smirnoff Offline Smirnoff
    Smirnoff (Victor) April 4 2022 17: 46
    +1
    The frontman of this anti-Russian coalition is, of course, President Joe Biden.??? Biden is INADEQUATE. He's not a Frontman, he's impotent.
    Biden is a puppet in the hands of the American global mafia, which has settled in Washington.
    They hide behind him in order to put all the blame on him, and to be "clean" themselves!
    The US will fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.
    The delivery of aircraft will not change anything.
    No fuel, no airfields! Where they sit down and be based.
    And if you fly from Poland, Romania, Germany and other Czechs, they will be shot down.
    And this is a DIRECT military aggression of the American NATO against Russia.
    The USA will play out. Russia has enough forces and means to force the United States to peace.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 4 2022 19: 32
      +5
      Russia has enough forces and means to force the United States to peace.

      So far, it has not worked out even with Ukraine ...
      1. ser-pov Offline ser-pov
        ser-pov (Sergei) April 7 2022 20: 51
        0
        Quote: Marzhetsky
        Russia has enough forces and means to force the United States to peace.

        So far, it has not worked out even with Ukraine ...

        Are you sure that they are at war with Ukraine? In my opinion, they haven’t even started yet .. Otherwise, the entire railway would already be in ruins and there would be no deliveries.
    2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 21: 06
      -1
      And if you fly from Poland, Romania, Germany and other Czechs, they will be shot down.

      For the operation of air defense systems at such distances, more powerful surveillance and guidance radars are needed, other NATO AWACS and U.LA systems can fly from the territories of NATO countries with refueling. They have enough tanker tankers.
  3. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) April 4 2022 19: 17
    +3
    Having air superiority and high-precision medium-range weapons, it is necessary to establish an air blockade and block ground communications on the western border - railway locomotive depots, highways, transshipment bases, power plants and substations, industrial enterprises, territorial authorities and communications.
    Without this, the situation is reminiscent of scooping up water with a sieve - in place of the destroyed equipment, the west receives a new one and all over again.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 21: 03
      +1
      As long as planes and UAVs fly from Russian airfields, disrupting communications in the central and western parts of Ukraine will not work out massively. For their defense and protection, significant forces will be required, if deployed in the Donbass. High-precision weapons require highly reliable and operational intelligence, otherwise a waste of expensive ammunition.
  4. ZAlexanderZ Offline ZAlexanderZ
    ZAlexanderZ (Alexander Shchetinkin) April 4 2022 20: 05
    +4
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Russia has enough forces and means to force the United States to peace.

    So far, it has not worked out even with Ukraine ...

    It didn't work out because we're messing around with them. We are trying to save the population, to bring the military to reason, this is not the profile of the army. Therefore, they got stuck. Imagine only if it was a purely hostile population. And the Ukrainians did not hide behind civilians. We approached the city. We announce the day for the withdrawal of civilians. Then who did not have time, we are not to blame. The question is what part of Ukraine would we already control? And there would be fewer losses.
    1. EpIvIaK Offline EpIvIaK
      EpIvIaK (Ian) April 4 2022 20: 46
      +1
      And some in such cases even threw off the Kids on all sorts of Hiroshima. =) Problems were solved quickly. Happened in the history and such... =/ So that's right, it all depends on the method. Here is another extreme, but apparently it is justified, so they will get hysterical, they say, how is it possible ah-ah-ah.
    2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 20: 59
      +5
      It didn't work out because we're messing around with them. We are trying to save the population, to bring the military to reason, this is not the profile of the army.

      The form of ownership and farming in Russia also makes the swaying. Looking back at "public opinion." Sitting on three chairs. Classification by the Nazis, with simultaneous continuous negotiations with them, already from the fourth day of the operation.
      1. ZAlexanderZ Offline ZAlexanderZ
        ZAlexanderZ (Alexander Shchetinkin) April 4 2022 22: 25
        +5
        Agree. If our grandfathers had negotiated with the Germans in this way, then perhaps the Patriotic War would only end in the 90s.
    3. Luis Betton Offline Luis Betton
      Luis Betton (Vladimir) April 5 2022 08: 08
      0
      Well, the Vushniks did not let the population out of the city, and then what ?!
  5. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 20: 56
    +3
    If the deadlines for the end of the operation are constantly shifting to the right, things may come to NATO, it may supply fighter jets to Ukraine along with pilots, with air defense systems. As well as tanks with crews, vehicles, artillery pieces.
  6. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 21: 10
    0
    On the other hand, considerations of precisely this order raise a host of unpleasant questions. For example, the Harpoon missile exists in three main modifications: aviation, ship-based, and submarine-based.

    Here, Erdogan fussed in favor of the Navy. He blocked the straits for ships and vessels of the Russian Navy. And the KChF is busy with other tasks.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 5 2022 07: 01
      +1
      The Ukrainian Navy actually no longer exists. Bringing new ships from those decommissioned to NATO, donating them to Ukraine, is also impossible in practice.
  7. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) April 5 2022 07: 42
    +1
    The author is a dreamer! All airfields are almost bombed out, and those that remain are controlled and can be destroyed at any moment. If planes take off from Polish airfields, this is a war with NATO, the most severe consequences for Poland. If Europe turns up to defend Poland, this is already a nuclear Armageddon. Europe understands this. They won't go for it. Then do not forget the sky of Ukraine controls the S-400. Installations are in Belarus and Kaliningrad ... The option of deploying aircraft in Ukraine is not even considered.
  8. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 5 2022 10: 49
    -1
    Ah, a month, or even more, they write - the West can deliver this, maybe that, or maybe not ...
    But for now, coffee grounds are against it.

    An airplane is millions of bucks, a long study for millions of bucks, + logistics and weapons for millions of bucks ....
    who will give them.
  9. skeptic Offline skeptic
    skeptic April 5 2022 12: 24
    +2
    Until Russia delivers an ultimatum on the actions of the West (as the organizers of the 3rd World War, with a corresponding nuclear response, if they do not stop the supply of weapons), then this will still have to be done, but with much greater losses on our part ..
    1. borisvt Offline borisvt
      borisvt (boris) April 5 2022 19: 53
      0
      Unfortunately, I agree with the "skeptic". All these stoltenhers and fonderblainers, American congressmen go into convulsions - if anyone has not seen them on Foxnews, then look - with cries of "punish pyutin."
      Until we slam a dagger on Rzeszow, and our super-cautious Supreme Commander makes an appeal to the nation about the next target in the form of a pentagon, then we will fight with NATO on an ever larger scale, and anyway we will come to this ((
  10. Khaertdinov Radik (Radik Khaertdinov) April 5 2022 13: 45
    0
    Are there many kamikazes among NATO pilots?)))
  11. Sacha1960 Offline Sacha1960
    Sacha1960 (Sasha Anton) April 5 2022 20: 25
    0
    The skies of Ukraine are almost closed to Russia too (because of the BUK and thousands of Ukrainian MANPADS), Ukrainian airports are rapidly recovering (precision missiles are expensive and do not destroy as much as heavy bombing), the West with NATO is completely open to new weapons, it is also unknown how many equipment is hidden in Kyiv, the Dnieper, etc. (danger of counterattacks from behind in the Donbass). The situation seems to me not very good and rather dangerous. (Currently).