Ukrainians will have to pay dearly for supporting the crimes of their Nazis


The special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine has entered a new stage. From swift throws deep into the territory of the Independent Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, it was necessary to switch to the tactics of positional battles. The reason for this was the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard, who took refuge in the cities behind the civilian population as a "human shield".


The desire to avoid casualties among innocent people very seriously limits the Russian military in the use of heavy weapons, de facto leveling them technical superiority. No matter how hard you try, you still cannot do without the destruction of the besieged cities, inside which there are fierce battles: just look at what the long-suffering Mariupol has become.

It is not known how long the special military operation will last - a month, two or three, six months or even more, but it is already clear that the vital infrastructure, housing stock and industry of Ukraine will be seriously damaged. And then winter will inevitably come, exacerbating the existing problems. The question arises, what to do next? How then to rake all this up, literally and figuratively, and who will pay for this "banquet"?

The author of the lines was prompted to write this article by three informational reasons at once, which I would like to talk about in more detail. The first was a report that the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a law “On the basic principles for the forced seizure in Ukraine of objects of property rights of the Russian Federation and its residents”, in which Kyiv allowed itself to take property from Russians, as well as those who are associated with the Russian Federation, refusing to condemn special military operation in Ukraine:

The adopted document equates to residents of Russia who are subject to the law on the nationalization of property: citizens of the Russian Federation; persons who are not citizens of the Russian Federation, but are closely associated with it, in particular, they live there or are engaged in their main activities.

The second information occasion was the reasoning of one, in general, a very respected, educated and intelligent person, whose name we will not name, about the possible future of Independence, met on the Internet. The essence of his appeal was to learn to respect the Ukrainian nation and after the end of the SVO to turn Ukraine into a real "exhibition of the achievements of the national economy." That is, to build chic roads and bridges there, restore cities, open new factories so that every Ukrainian has a job with a decent salary, etc. And after that, after 2-3 generations, they will “forgive” us and, perhaps, even love us.

The third reason was numerous reports of how “Ukrainian defenders” mock Russian prisoners of war: they castrate them, chop off their fingers, gouge out their eyes, cut out internal organs from living people, defecate on their bodies, etc.

The author of the lines has always considered himself a fairly reasonable and kind person. Those who closely followed his publications know that for many years he consistently advocated the return of Ukraine, its denazification, the restoration of trade and industrial ties, the placement of new orders from the Russian military-industrial complex at Ukrainian enterprises in order to create jobs, and possibly unification as part of the Union State etc. However, the demonstrated level of Ukrainian atrocities forces us to somewhat reconsider our former beautiful-hearted views.

Today's Ukraine is not just a "sick man of Europe", it is Evil in its purest form. The Square has no right to continue to exist in its current form, and all negotiations on this subject from the Russian side are inherently criminal. Ukraine and its people, who sincerely supported the Nazi atrocities against the Russians, must be punished.

At first, there can no longer even be talk of preserving its statehood in its current form. Its territory must be divided and divided with its Eastern European neighbors, removing the hotbed of aggressive Ukrainianism in the form of Galicia and Volhynia. It will be better this way.

Secondly, the modern state symbols of the Square should be equated with the German-Nazi and prohibited. Further existence is possible only under some new symbols that are not associated with Ukrainian atrocities.

Thirdly, there can be no "VDNKh" or "Marshall Plan" at the expense of Russia. The Ukrainian people themselves must bear the burden of responsibility for their rulers, for their military personnel and National Guardsmen, for the fact that many of them sincerely supported the brutal torture against our soldiers, who initially tried to act as humanely as possible. A special “war tax” should be introduced, to be paid by all, except for those few who actively supported the Russian liberating army. From this tax, part of the funds should go to the fund to help the military personnel of the Russian Federation, the DPR and the LPR who suffered during the hostilities or were crippled in the terrible Ukrainian captivity, as well as the families of the victims.

The rest of the funds will be used to restore everything that has already been destroyed and will be destroyed during the NWO. The nationalized assets of the Ukrainian oligarchs, who actively supported this militarily senseless massacre, should also go there, to the recovery fund. All elite real estate of President Zelensky and his accomplices in Crimea and other Russian regions should be seized and given to military personnel and militias injured during a special military operation.

If this is not done, and the Russian authorities agree to some kind of “Istanbul conspiracy” in order to preserve the criminal regime of the “bloody clown” Zelensky, then they may face a wave of hatred of the Russian people towards themselves. Such things cannot be said goodbye, to anyone.
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  1. akm8226 Offline akm8226
    akm8226 April 3 2022 12: 25
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    Today's Ukraine is not just a "sick man of Europe", it is Evil in its purest form. The Square has no right to continue to exist in its current form, and all negotiations on this subject from the Russian side are inherently criminal. Ukraine and its people, who sincerely supported the Nazi atrocities against the Russians, must be punished.

    Firstly, there can no longer even be a question of preserving its statehood in its current form. Its territory must be divided and divided with its Eastern European neighbors, removing the hotbed of aggressive Ukrainianism in the form of Galicia and Volhynia. It will be better this way.

    Secondly, the modern state symbols of the Square should be equated with the German-Nazi and banned. Further existence is possible only under some new symbols that are not associated with Ukrainian atrocities.

    Thirdly, there can be no "VDNH" or "Marshall Plan" at the expense of Russia. The Ukrainian people themselves must bear the burden of responsibility for their rulers, for their military personnel and National Guardsmen, for the fact that many of them sincerely supported the brutal torture against our soldiers, who initially tried to act as humanely as possible. A special “war tax” should be introduced, to be paid by all, except for those few who actively supported the Russian liberating army. From this tax, part of the funds should go to the fund to help the military personnel of the Russian Federation, the DPR and the LPR who suffered during the hostilities or were crippled in the terrible Ukrainian captivity, as well as the families of the victims.

    The rest of the funds will be used to restore everything that has already been destroyed and will be destroyed during the NWO. The nationalized assets of the Ukrainian oligarchs, who actively supported this militarily senseless massacre, should also go there, to the recovery fund. All elite real estate of President Zelensky and his accomplices in Crimea and other Russian regions should be seized and given to military personnel and militias injured during a special military operation.

    If this is not done, and the Russian authorities agree to some kind of “Istanbul conspiracy” in order to preserve the criminal regime of the “bloody clown” Zelensky, then they may face a wave of hatred of the Russian people towards themselves. Such things cannot be said goodbye, to anyone.
  2. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 3 2022 12: 26
    +6
    I totally agree.
    But for this, you must first complete the military phase of the operation. And if there is not enough strength for the whole of Ukraine, then the left bank must be taken. And cut off the rest of Ukraine from the sea. This means Nikolaev and Odessa.
    Apparently, this will have to stop.
    In this scenario, the sanctions will remain for a long time. So the internal course of Russia should also be revised.
    1. Yuri 5347 Offline Yuri 5347
      Yuri 5347 (Yuri) April 3 2022 19: 46
      +3
      ... leave western Ukraine to the Nazis? so that they can rest there and start over again?
      1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
        Just a cat (Bayun) April 3 2022 21: 20
        +1
        Ukrainians were white and fluffy before Western Ukraine? compared to the massacre arranged by shingles and iron ore, it’s more like fluffy Bandera ... and by the way, Russia ended the massacre. crests also tried to ride in Russia later, but this is already a story about the Pugachev uprising. something recently Khokhlyatsky Natsiks and drug dealers in Russia have become more active.
      2. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 3 2022 21: 58
        +4
        Are you sure that the Russian Army has enough strength to take control of the whole of Ukraine? A battle is coming in the Donbass. I don’t even want to discuss from afar, sitting on the couch, what the losses will be.
        If you take the whole of Ukraine, then you need to declare mobilization right now (or even better a month ago). At least partially.
        1. alexneg13 Offline alexneg13
          alexneg13 (Alexander) April 3 2022 22: 21
          +2
          Enough is enough. A very minimal contingent of the Armed Forces is involved in the Ruin.
        2. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 3 2022 22: 54
          0
          Novorossiya map

        3. Muscool Offline Muscool
          Muscool (Glory) April 4 2022 08: 34
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          I don’t understand why they don’t announce at least a partial one, according to the covid principle.
          For those wishing to join the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, a job is assigned, the payment of wages is preserved + is put on a small monetary allowance from the Armed Forces.
          According to this principle, I think there will be those who want to join the army. Not all people want to cut ties with the civilian world.
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 4 2022 08: 58
            +1
            As far as I know, the call for volunteers is carried out. Only non-commissioned officers are accepted. Everything that you have indicated is being implemented. And the preservation of the workplace and wages for military operations. Insurance in case of injury or death. Family support.

            https://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/545572
            https://recrut.mil.ru/enlistment_contract/calculator.htm
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 22: 41
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              Volunteers are not called. They go by themselves. You give the conditions for hiring contractors. They confused Babel with Bahar. Civilian salary. The military has a paycheck.
              1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 4 2022 23: 27
                +1
                Naturally, it is impossible to call a volunteer. But they are. You focus on words, but not on the essence of the phenomenon. If someone is CALLED to serve the Motherland and he goes VOLUNTARY, then who is he in essence? Volunteer or responding to the call?
                How many volunteers and contractors varies greatly in different sources. According to some sources, the number of both is negligible. According to others, more than 50 thousand people submitted applications to the military enlistment office. It was with the intention to go to Ukraine.
                The article states (if you read it inattentively) that everyone undergoes retraining for 7 weeks.
                How many ages should be called only you know (as always). They must have read the documents of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces.
  3. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) April 3 2022 12: 32
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    It is obvious that the Ukrainian "evil" is concentrated in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the national battalions, as well as in public activists who propagate the regime. The bulk of the population of Ukraine is not subject to the hatred of Russia. Many have left the country, many are draft evaders.
    The task of denazification is the destruction of the potential who took up arms. After that, the accomplices of the regime themselves will leave the country for fear of punishment.
    This will complete the denazification.
    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 3 2022 13: 33
      +6
      Disagree with you. So, maybe it was before the operation. Now that funerals have come to many Ukrainian families, the attitude of the population towards Russia will change, and not for the better. I think "hate" would be the most sober definition.
      The fact that we are right does not change anything.
      But.
      Think - why did Russia not interfere in the affairs of Ukraine, even before 2014, when the population was being processed, and everything was already clear to everyone? I remember that we wrote about it then, trying to attract the attention of the country's leadership. Is it not our fault that we have allowed this Evil to take root?
      Postponing the problem for the future, we do not solve it, we allow it to grow. It's our bad habit
      1. Yuriy88 Offline Yuriy88
        Yuriy88 (Yuri) April 3 2022 17: 37
        -1
        that is, we are to blame for the fact that fascism has blossomed in Ukraine..?! Yet We?)
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 3 2022 18: 03
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          Let's try to figure it out:
          To do this, in my opinion, you need to answer the following questions:
          - Which republic in the USSR was the bearer of systems for coordinating the economy and foreign policy of the former republics?
          - Were the republics of the former USSR fully capable after its collapse as independent states in their economy and foreign policy?
          - Was Russia interested in preserving Ukraine as its geopolitical and economic partner after the collapse of the USSR?
          In my opinion, the former leadership of Russia acted irresponsibly and vilely, not only in relation to its own people, but also in relation to the republics of the USSR, kicking them out into free swimming.
          Very quickly, Ukraine "there" fell into interested hands, which no longer let it out. The problem is that "survive as you like" was said to the state, which had not yet got on its feet. In fact, we were responsible for all of them, and it was in our interest.
          The second problem is the "pipe", which probably became a tool for blackmailing the West, such as "do not touch the oligarchs that are convenient for us and our NGOs in Ukraine and pump gas calmly" - my guess, but it could well be so.
          So, I think that there is a considerable share of our guilt in this, especially since it was we who were vitally interested in preventing this from happening.
          Ukraine was then still a "teenager" who fell into the hands of an "experienced bandit."
          Now, with our indifference and indifference, he has made her a brainless and soulless tool for the destruction of Russia.
          Judge for yourself
          1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
            Dart2027 April 3 2022 21: 07
            +2
            Quote: Alexey Davydov
            - Were the republics of the former USSR fully capable after its collapse as independent states in their economy and foreign policy?

            And in what state was Russia itself, do not remember?
            1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 3 2022 21: 25
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              So what?
              This "history" in Ukraine, you understand, did not end with Yeltsin's departure. I remember articles and broadcasts about the indoctrination of the Ukrainian population and their children's camps like the "Hitler Youth" and more recently, sometime between 2010 and 2014.
              What happened in 2014 is already the result.
              1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
                Dart2027 April 3 2022 22: 26
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                Quote: Alexey Davydov
                This "history" in Ukraine, you understand, did not end with Yeltsin's departure.

                And with his departure, everything immediately became good? By the time Russia more or less recovered it was already too late.
            2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
              Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 3 2022 21: 50
              +1
              And in what state was Russia itself, do not remember?

              Of the trinity that arranged the collapse, Yeltsin was the organizer and initiator.
              Only Russia had the potential to control and manage the economy and foreign policy in the international space, and could help the republics to adapt. The fact that this did not happen, and the collapse and disintegration itself, is entirely on the conscience of the then leadership of the Russian Federation.
              It was not a natural disaster, but the management decisions of Yeltsin and his team, their mistakes or betrayal
              1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
                Dart2027 April 3 2022 22: 27
                -1
                Quote: Alexey Davydov
                It was not a natural disaster, but the management decisions of Yeltsin and his team, their mistakes or betrayal

                Betrayal, whatever.
          2. Pete mitchell Offline Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell (Pete Mitchell) April 3 2022 22: 33
            +2
            Quote: Alexey Davydov
            xxxxxx was then still a "teenager" who fell into the hands of an "experienced bandit". Now, with our indifference and indifference, he has made her a brainless and soulless tool for the destruction of Russia.

            Let's take it broader: Russia did not have a systematic and long-term policy towards former sisters, and now we are seeing the fruits of such inaction.
            But we can't agree

            Quote: Dart2027
            in what state was Russia itself do not remember?

            The Russian Federation would then simply be trampled on, now the situation is different. It just won't happen, but the mistakes made will have to be corrected
            1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
              Dart2027 April 4 2022 06: 26
              +1
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              The Russian Federation would then simply be trampled on, now the situation is different. It just won't happen, but the mistakes made will have to be corrected

              Yes. This is what they are doing.
              1. Pete mitchell Offline Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell (Pete Mitchell) April 4 2022 09: 40
                +1
                Quote: Dart2027
                Quote: Pete Mitchell
                It just won't happen, but the mistakes made will have to be corrected

                Yes. This is what they are doing.

                It is a thankless task to give advice, especially to statesmen, but a long-term policy with clearly defined goals is needed. Plus the “state” idea and everything will work out
                1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
                  Dart2027 April 4 2022 19: 51
                  +1
                  Quote: Pete Mitchell
                  but we need a long-term policy with clearly defined goals

                  The goal, I think, is to return to Russia as many Russian lands as possible on which the gradual Russification of the population will be carried out, and what we cannot return will be turned into a banana republic.
                  1. Pete mitchell Offline Pete mitchell
                    Pete mitchell (Pete Mitchell) April 5 2022 13: 59
                    +1
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    The goal, I think, is to return to Russia as much as possible ...

                    I do not agree with you. I think that the creation of a full-fledged buffer around the Russian Federation is a quite decent and sufficient goal. To return parasites to your neck, but you need it ... yourself, for your own, as it will
                    1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
                      Dart2027 April 5 2022 19: 18
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                      Quote: Pete Mitchell
                      Return freeloaders on your neck

                      It is necessary to pursue a normal policy in order not to allow them to become freeloaders. As Lenin wrote:

                      In relation to the second nationalism, almost always in historical practice, we, the nationals of a large nation, find ourselves guilty of an infinite amount of violence, and even more, we imperceptibly commit an infinite amount of violence and insults, one has only to recall my Volga memories of how we foreigners are treated like a Pole is not called anything other than a "Polish", just as a Tatar is not ridiculed otherwise than a "prince", a Ukrainian other than a "crest", a Georgian and other Caucasian foreigners, as a "Kapkaz man".
                      Therefore, internationalism on the part of the oppressor or the so-called "great" nation (although great only in its violence, great only in the way that the dzhimorda is great) should consist not only in observing the formal equality of nations, but also in such an inequality that would compensate the oppressor nation , a large nation, the inequality that develops in life in fact. Whoever does not understand this does not understand the really proletarian attitude to the national question, he remains, in essence, on the petty-bourgeois point of view, and therefore cannot but slide every minute into the bourgeois point of view.

                      Well, then a "wonderful" practice appeared to feed everyone at the expense of the Russians.
                      And a foreign state is more difficult to control than its own territory, so there are no fraternal peoples, but the entry into Russia of several separate regions.
    2. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
      goncharov.62 (Andrei) April 3 2022 14: 11
      -2
      You are delusional...
    3. FGJCNJK Offline FGJCNJK
      FGJCNJK (Nikolai) April 3 2022 17: 23
      +2
      In Latvia and Lithuania there are already a lot of women with children. Where are their husbands? Are they fighting? The wives rushed away from sin, so they knew what threatened them? Especially a lot of "tears claws" from Western Ukraine, through Poland. They did not know grief there for 8 years - the husbands constantly sent parcels with stolen goods from the inhabitants of Donbass. But now they barely carried away with only backpacks on their backs.
  4. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) April 3 2022 12: 36
    +8
    Quote: Siegfried
    It is obvious that the Ukrainian "evil" is concentrated in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the national battalions, as well as in public activists who propagate the regime. The bulk of the population of Ukraine is not subject to that hatred of Russia

    Not anymore. Read carefully what all these people write. They must all be jointly and severally liable. At least a ruble.

    Many have left the country, many are draft evaders.

    For those who have left Ukraine or are actively helping the Russian Armed Forces, exceptions should be made.
  5. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) April 3 2022 12: 52
    +2
    I completely agree with you. We can no longer leave Ukraine - the States will complete its transformation into an "absolute weapon".
    So far, there is still a theoretical possibility to reverse this process.
    Only one caveat. Denazification and re-education of the population is best carried out with positive guidelines for those being re-educated.
    I believe, that:

    restoration of trade and industrial ties, placement of new orders at Ukrainian enterprises from the Russian military-industrial complex in order to create jobs, possibly uniting as part of the Union State, etc.

    should be carried out with some delay, but - in parallel.
    Turning this territory into a concentration camp to punish the population will only exacerbate and freeze this problem, not to mention the fact that we are not yet capable of this, and it is not even worth learning to do so.
    We need, at least in the future, to "free our hands" from this problem - for our main enemy
    1. Sega19 Offline Sega19
      Sega19 (Sergei) April 3 2022 13: 14
      +8
      Look at Yuriy Podolyak’s latest issue on 03.04 in the morning, the troops take or pass through the settlements and there is no power left in them, as a result, the ukrov’s territorial defense returns or the bandits seize power, and again we are only engaged in smacking in high offices and our soldiers will suffer, and I want to return Stalin and 22 years so that he burns out this entire fifth column in power.
  6. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) April 3 2022 12: 54
    +8
    Quote: Alexey Davydov
    should be carried out with some delay, but in parallel. Turning this area into a concentration camp to punish the population will only exacerbate our problem.

    Nobody talks about the concentration camp. Just no charity at the expense of Russia in the restoration of the destroyed. Let them be responsible for their decisions and actions, pay for everything out of their own pocket.
  7. Sega19 Offline Sega19
    Sega19 (Sergei) April 3 2022 13: 10
    +7
    We only have talks, they will pay dearly, they will be punished, I watch our information channels for the last days and only hear nothing but empty talk, not a single significant detention of any assets or the imposition of sanctions (except only talks) those responsible for torturing prisoners were detained (again, only empty bragging of Shamanov). one gets the impression that our elite is itself in shock and does not know how to save itself, therefore it does not introduce any measures against the enemy in order to prepare a springboard for itself to retreat and surrender to Russia.
  8. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) April 3 2022 13: 55
    -1
    Who about what, and Marzhetsky about the transfer of Galicia to Poland again. Does the surname oblige or does something shine in Lviv on restitution?
    Will the Poles denazify Bandera? And then why are they now heavily supplying them with weapons? To complicate the task for yourself in the future, chtoli?
  9. North Offline North
    North (Vera) April 3 2022 13: 56
    +10
    A few days ago, commenting on the article "The next president of Ukraine should be ... Poklonskaya" I wrote that this state has no right to exist or to keep the word "Ukraine". And there are no presidents there - for several years something like an occupation administration. The Banderovsky stub should also not remain "alive" - ​​psheks are no better either. Trials of pravoseks should be as public as possible. And those who were captured should, like the Germans after the Second World War, rebuild cities. Feeding, medicine - don't play humanism in relation to ghouls! - all at a minimum. And bring that "respectable" asshole to the hospital and poke his muzzle into the bloody bandages of our guys, to Mariupol - into the basement, where they found a girl with a swastika burned on her body - and also muzzle into what was on the floor. Let him respect this crap nation with its Nazis! Make a showcase? So let them do it. Sami. Although we saw WHAT they can do when they themselves ....
  10. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) April 3 2022 14: 18
    -1
    - I have already written about this - I will repeat it again.
    - In a telegram dated May 29, 1919, V.I. Lenin telegraphed to the Revolutionary Military Council of the Eastern Front:

    "If we do not conquer the Urals before winter, then I consider the death of the revolution inevitable. Strain all your strength"

    - Today is almost the same situation:
    - If within 1,5-2 weeks our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - do not achieve decisive success in battles with the "Donetsk group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" - then ... then the situation will become so complicated that ... that I don’t even dare to predict it further!
    - Unfortunately ; So far, there is nothing optimistic about this! - Our military leadership - did not dare to use the most powerful and destructive in their action military means - means of destruction; strategic aviation does not apply either! - So in military operations (on both sides) approximately the same military equipment and military equipment (artillery, MLRS, tanks, mortars, front-line aviation, etc.) are used! - And if we take into account the fact with which the enemies are resisting fiercely and the fact that their positions are very strongly fortified, it becomes clear that it is hardly worth expecting any kind of breakthrough and turning point in these hostilities!
    - Well, let all the responsibility fall on those who today "this is how they lead and conduct these hostilities"!
    1. kot711 Offline kot711
      kot711 (vov) April 3 2022 16: 01
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      If within 1,5-2 weeks our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - do not achieve decisive success in battles with the "Donetsk group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" - then ... then the situation will become so complicated that ... that I don’t even dare to predict it further!

      Better not try. Do you want to carry out carpet bombing?
      1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) April 4 2022 05: 51
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        Carpet bombing will help end this war quickly. Alas and ah, but there is no other way. We are not in a sports competition. If the enemy does not surrender, he is destroyed, and in this all means are good. Otherwise, the losses will be very high, and the result will be the defeat of the Russian Federation, which in the short term will be the collapse of Russia as a state.
  11. maw0981 Offline maw0981
    maw0981 (a m) April 3 2022 14: 19
    +2
    I agree to all 100.
  12. erased Offline erased
    erased (Stehr - Former Marshal in Nature) April 3 2022 14: 39
    -3
    The most secret secret is that the authorities of the Russian Federation do not care about the people of the Russian Federation. And who will think what, does not bother anyone from the word at all. If necessary, they will merge the war game, if necessary, they will merge the country. It's a matter of price.
  13. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) April 3 2022 14: 52
    +1
    Two capitalist countries collided. According to history, it had to be so, and it happened.
    1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
      Dart2027 April 3 2022 21: 09
      -2
      Quote: zenion
      Two capitalist countries collided. According to history

      But didn’t the socialist USSR hit the army of socialist China with Grads?
    2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 20: 53
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      Yes. The case is moving according to the nonsense of Zbigniew Brzezinski.
  14. Spasatel Offline Spasatel
    Spasatel April 3 2022 14: 55
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    I wonder if the Russian oligarchs Abramovich, the Rotenberg brothers, Sechin, the newly-minted Hero of Russia Miller, the criminal Usmanov, the cellist Raldugin, and other Deripaska donated their money to support the Russian army? Voice, gentlemen, comrades, who knows! Or are they still waiting for the state to compensate them for the losses from American sanctions, in accordance with the new law adopted by the State Duma?
  15. InanRom Offline InanRom
    InanRom (Ivan) April 3 2022 16: 26
    -1
    Written in essence and in principle, true, but ... The question is in a country in which monuments to Hitler's accomplices stand freely (they are not subject to rehabilitation) - Krasnov, Shkuro, (by the way, these "heroes" are honored in cadet Cossack educational institutions) Von Panwitz, war criminals like Kolchak, where the streets in some cities bear the names of all those who collaborated with the Nazi regime like Zaki Validi, Naumenko, Israilov and others (if this is not propaganda and justification of Nazism, then what ?!), in which expositions in the Yeltsin Center whitewash another accomplice of the Nazis - Vlasov (whose monument stands on the territory of the ROCOR), where the head of state lays flowers on Ilyin, who sang fascism, erected into a cult (and school curriculum) the puppet of the State Department Solzhenitsyn, where Black Hundred detachments openly exist, where they appoint negotiators of Mannerheim fans, where Mussolini's fans broadcast from the screens on the main state channels, where they drape the mausoleum on May 9 and where they pour water from the official stands, and in the media, and on the screen everything is Soviet with mud, where there is no ideology, except for the cult of money and the West (I won’t even list everything that accompanies this) - how do you think everything that you are talking about can be implemented ?!
    1. InanRom Offline InanRom
      InanRom (Ivan) April 5 2022 21: 58
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      Doesn't like someone? But facts are stubborn things. Any of them is easy to check. And if the minus people have the above in their heads, anti-Sovietism, creeping decommunization, glorification of fascist accomplices (and this is in the successor country of the USSR, where May 9 is a sacred holiday for the whole people), then their "fight against Nazism" resembles the struggle of Nanai boys, this already clinic. How interesting - they downvoted without counterarguments, either Khokhlobots - Nazis, or couch urashopniks - two sides of the same coin?) Continue, however, the dogs are barking - the caravan is moving on.
  16. Marfa Guy Offline Marfa Guy
    Marfa Guy (Marfa) April 3 2022 16: 38
    +1
    Reasonable and fair! We cannot carry this bag with .... we will get dirty. Let them clean themselves!
  17. Sergey Pavlenko Offline Sergey Pavlenko
    Sergey Pavlenko (Sergey Pavlenko) April 3 2022 17: 18
    -1
    I agree with the author of the article .... But, we must look at the root: Ukraine is the result of the actions of the US administration, therefore, as long as this state exists, such outbreaks as Ukraine will constantly arise, it is possible that Poland may become the next, they also don’t really think about the consequences and pour on Russia all sorts of dirt...well, it is possible that the people of Poland will also have to put up with it, just like the people of Ukraine now. As long as the world's EVIL exists in the form of the states, one should not expect anything else, because it is necessary to kill not metastases, but the tumor itself, although metastases must also be fought!!!
  18. Yuriy88 Offline Yuriy88
    Yuriy88 (Yuri) April 3 2022 17: 34
    +2
    a strange and hypocritical thesis .. launched on the air in the media .. "but the people have nothing to do with it!" What nonsense!!!!!! In Nazi Germany, who served in the Army by the millions and worked for the benefit of the Reich?! The same "people"!.. How does this indifferent and passive, but as we can see, quite vicious, fiercely belligerent, differ from the German? Surely the entire Army of Ukraine consists of some nat. battalions?? Not funny?! Well, that's it! .. The same simple people are fighting in the army .. Let them pay for their domestic fascists., Which they raised and silently and jumping blessed. No need to be hypocritical .. no need!
  19. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 3 2022 19: 00
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    All right. Away with fairy tales for the naive. Capitalism with nationalism in the yard.

    Whoever captured, divided, optimized, promoted and nothing happened for it, well done.
    (there are many examples, PF money in VTB, for example)))-)
  20. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) April 3 2022 20: 32
    +1
    We blame Galicia for everything. But the main reptiles are located in the South-East of Ukraine - these are Kuchma, Timoshenko, Lazarenko, Filatov, Korban, Kolomoisky, Zelensky from the Dnipropetrovsk region, Avakov from the Kharkov region. The most reliable associates of Yanukovych from the Party of Regions were from Lvov - Taras Chernovil and Anna Herman. The south-east of Ukraine should be annexed by regions in the Russian Federation in the form of people's republics and a very tough cleansing should be carried out there. The rest of Ukraine will still remain Bandera.
  21. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) April 3 2022 20: 37
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    The main reptiles concentrated in Kyiv. I am convinced that the Donbass militias will turn Kyiv into Mariupol in order to avenge the death of their loved ones. The people of Kiev sympathize with the Bandera people, who were fed pies during the Maidan.
  22. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
    Dart2027 April 3 2022 21: 10
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    highly respected, educated and intelligent person, whose name we will not name

    This is not Klim Zhukov?
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) April 4 2022 06: 29
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      Yes, unfortunately he is. I sincerely respect this man, but I strongly disagree with him on this issue.
      1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
        Dart2027 April 4 2022 19: 49
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        Quote: Marzhetsky
        Yes, unfortunately he is.

        Sometimes I watch his videos - when he talks about some swords and armor, everything is fine, but when he starts to move on to politics ... Good old Soviet propaganda, like returning to childhood.
  23. borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) April 3 2022 22: 08
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    Good, correct article. Just one note: to share you need to have. Therefore, first you need to go to the western borders of the former Ukrainian SSR, and only then decide whether to divide or not to divide))
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 14: 50
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      To enter the western borders of Ukraine, the most modern intelligence and combat
      control, several more divisions of strike aviation, army aviation, ground attack aviation, about 5 thousand 3M14 missiles, several brigades of Iskander complexes, at least 50 MiG-31K with triple ammunition, several motorized rifle and armored divisions, several divisions of the National Guard troops to protect the rear, additional parts of the Ministry of Emergency Situations. Who will pay for this? This will require spending $300 million a day. And the entire budget of the Russian Ministry of Defense, in 2021, was $ 5.5 billion.
      1. borisvt Offline borisvt
        borisvt (boris) April 4 2022 18: 43
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        Let me disagree with the overall estimate of the budget, it looks like you have a one character error.

        In 2022, the federal center will spend more than 3,5 trillion rubles on defense. - almost 15% of total spending, or 2,6% of the country's projected GDP (data on RBC)

        And so - yes, you are right, expenses ((
        Let's wait, go, we have a serious budget surplus, bloomberg predicts it will be 240 billion green for this year))
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 20: 51
          +1
          Spending on defense and a formalized military budget are not the same thing. If they would pull, now our military would be equipped differently. Moreover, they could adequately put on shoes, dress, equip and arm the brigades and corps of the LDNR. The most motivated, brave, allies, comrades. Even before the start of a special military operation.
          Bloomberg's predictions are news from the future. Gorby style. The funds need cyclic continuous operation of military-industrial complex enterprises. Pay attention to the reports of the Russian military-industrial complex in 2021. And what can we say about the current sanctions period.
          1. borisvt Offline borisvt
            borisvt (boris) April 4 2022 21: 40
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            Well, style-style, oil, and our other products will be in full demand by the fall, moreover, with the transition to rubles, I hope. I count on the fact that, among other things, I will have to pinch various newly minted citizens of Israel and Portugal. In wartime, after all, it is necessary to find funds both for our military, and for those who are motivated and brave, as you rightly noted.
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 22: 49
              +1
              It was necessary to pinch these characters before that. Now they are not being pinched, but someone else's "uncle" is gutting them. It's time for a special operation with us. And Zelensky has wartime. And he completed mobilization measures long ago.

              it is necessary to seek funds both for our military, as well as for the motivated and brave, as you rightly noted.

              These procedures had to be provided on a large scale, since 2014. Without regard to the shouts of Merkel and Macron.
              1. borisvt Offline borisvt
                borisvt (boris) April 5 2022 08: 54
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                I am silent about 2014, since the first Minsk, in my humble opinion, is a failure of political will. It was without looking back that it was necessary to go to Transnistria, and only after digesting.
                Now it will be more difficult, but with political will, we will strangle
  24. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) April 4 2022 06: 47
    +1
    Quote from borisvt
    Good, correct article. Just one note: to share you need to have. Therefore, first you need to go to the western borders of the former Ukrainian SSR, and only then decide whether to divide or not to divide))

    A month and a half or two months ago, when I wrote that we were still struggling with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and we should not give Ukraine time to strengthen itself even more and bring the army up to 350 tons, everyone here rushed at me, they said that I was an alarmist and did not understand anything, that ukrovoyak easily disperse.
    And what happened in real life?
    1. borisvt Offline borisvt
      borisvt (boris) April 4 2022 18: 47
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      I willingly believe. I myself did not engage in throwing at you, since I registered only at the beginning of March. To be fair, my predictions included the overthrow of Zele by internal forces within a week of our operation beginning. - It didn’t work out, there were no daredevils, or they were fixed ((
  25. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) April 4 2022 14: 43
    -2
    Nice spoon for dinner. Finally decided who the Nazis are.
  26. Mona kisa Offline Mona kisa
    Mona kisa (Mona Kisa) April 4 2022 15: 31
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    Quote: Siegfried
    The bulk of the population of Ukraine is not subject to the hatred of Russia.

    You are either naive or lying - on the Ruin, the vast majority of the population are inadequate Russophobes.
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  27. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) April 5 2022 09: 37
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    There is experience in creating labor armies. The Germans themselves raked the wreckage of their Reich. For gruel, rations and awareness of one's guilt. Both East and West Germany. That is, the steps to restore life do not depend on the political system of the winning country.
  28. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) April 5 2022 09: 53
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    Quote: gunnerminer
    Many still believe in the pro-Russian nature of the Kharkiv population. A certain A. Volkonsky especially zealously supported this belief. Until the last week.

    Ukrainian is a genetic traitor. Disfigured by centuries of pressing by Lithuania, Poland, Turkey, Crimea and Russia. Ready at any moment to rush to his today's enemy. The ideal behavior of which was the Zaporozhye freemen, with their robberies, drunkenness, and uncontrollability. When the pan hetman, offended by the Poles, led his nukers to war (I'm talking about Bogdan Khmelnitsky), and forced his ambassadors to kneel before Alexei Mikhailovich. from 1648 to 1654. The Russians already knew then about the treacherous love of their "brothers". And they thought for a long time. Not only this, Mazepa, Sagaidachny, and dozens of other square leaders rushing about like shit in the hole in the hole. Modern history ... Multi-vector nature of "cunning" leaders. Who can explain how this "GREAT ANCIENT people" succumbed to a miserable bunch of Westerners-Bandera, according to themselves that there are no more than 7% of them (do not pay attention to them, they are children), who took and bridled the whole people? Turned into animals? WE REEDUCATE. Labor and modest consumption. Taking away what made them great - the territories donated by the damned Bolsheviks, giving the western region to their worst friends for reprisal for the Volyn and other massacres, and the crumbs of an independent, limited and under the control of our presence, we will call, say, Little Russia.
  29. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) April 5 2022 09: 59
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    Quote from borisvt
    I am silent about 2014, since the first Minsk, in my humble opinion, is a failure of political will. It was without looking back that it was necessary to go to Transnistria, and only after digesting.
    Now it will be more difficult, but with political will, we will strangle

    It is a pity that you do not know such a well-known expression - "Politics is the art of the possible."
  30. Kade_t Offline Kade_t
    Kade_t (Igor) April 5 2022 16: 45
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    At the moment, there is a shortage of forces but not funds, too few personnel for such a large territory.
  31. Lena.4ernyaeva Offline Lena.4ernyaeva
    Lena.4ernyaeva (Elena Chernyaeva) April 5 2022 18: 43
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    10 times agree. About any Ukraine can not be. Lynch court to give the Nazis!
  32. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) April 9 2022 01: 48
    +1
    The main abscess of Ukraine is Kyiv. All the scum and evil spirits of the country gathered there. The main reptiles are from the Dnipropetrovsk region - Kuchma, Timoshenko, Lazarenko, Kolomoisky, Zelensky, Filatov, Korban. There are much fewer reptiles from Lvov. Avakov from Kharkov. The people of Kiev brought pies to the Banderites on the Maidan. The Kyiv police were in solidarity with Bandera, because Yanukovych relied on the "Berkut" from the South-East.
    Zelensky cleared the Verkhovna Rada, the government, law enforcement agencies of the Westerners. The Servant of the People party is predominantly from the South-East of Ukraine. Therefore, the entire population of Ukraine is responsible for the ongoing atrocities. Therefore, there is no need to feel sorry for the Ukrainian "mirnyak" - shoot where the shell came from. As soon as the Bandera people realize that the human shield is useless, they will abandon this practice, which will save many lives. The Germans at the beginning of the war tried to hide behind the hostages, but Stalin ordered to shoot at the hostages and the Germans. From Kyiv you need to make Mariupol.
  33. magdama Offline magdama
    magdama (igor) April 10 2022 05: 04
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    What guys. The war seems to be going on. Therefore, full mobilization is necessary. We have experience of the Great Patriotic War. It is necessary to implement the actions of that time: mobilization, restructuring the wartime economy and its laws. "Everything for the front!" Otherwise, do not win. This is not the Afghan of the 80s for us ... The toys are over.