For the surrender of Ukraine, Russian troops must liberate Mariupol and Kharkov


The fourth week of the special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine has already begun. To the unpleasant surprise of many of our compatriots, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard for some reason did not run away after the first shots, and Kyiv, without even thinking of capitulating, in the negotiations very boldly bargains for itself the conditions for a future life without "Russian occupiers". Why did this happen, and is it possible to reverse this situation somehow?


Why Blitzkrieg Failed


In Russia, many are now asking bewildered questions, and in Ukraine, in Israel and other countries where a large diaspora of people from Nezalezhnaya lives, they openly gloat about how the vaunted Russian army, which was preparing to fight the United States and the NATO bloc, in general, I couldn’t “heap with one left” some kind of Ukrainian there. In fact, there are quite a few reasons why Kyiv was not taken by the end of the very first day of the special military operation.

At first, apparently, the task of taking by storm the large cities of the Russian army was not originally set. According to a statement by popular blogger Yuriy Podolyaka, who covers the campaign citing his own sources, there were some agreements with local Ukrainian authorities that they themselves would hand over the keys to the cities. So, for example, it was at one time in Iraq. The reception is reasonable and quite working, but instead of bread and salt, the Russian military was met with artillery strikes. Such is the "military trick". Of course, the Ukrainians are within their rights, but this will undoubtedly be credited to them in the future.

Secondly, despite the fact that the RF Armed Forces are qualitatively superior to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they are seriously inferior to them in terms of manpower involved in a special operation. According to various estimates, the Russian contingent numbers between 150 and 200 people. Also on our side are fighting the corps of the DPR and LPR, with a total number of about 35 thousand people. The Ukrainian army, “reinforced” by the so-called therodefense, has 260 thousand military personnel in total, but it would be right to add the police, border guards, SBU and paramilitary formations to them, which allows bringing the number of the armed contingent subordinate to Kiev to half a million people. At the same time, a significant part of the Ukrainian society, treated with Russophobic propaganda, actively opposes the actions of the Russian military.

Thirdly, Moscow tied its own hands, calling the liberation of Ukraine from the Nazi regime not "Great Patriotic War-2", but only a special military operation that does not involve further occupation and change of the Nazi regime ruling in Kyiv. President Putin ordered that the Ukrainian military be treated as humanely as possible, moreover, he called on them to take power into their own hands and fight together against the pro-Western puppet government.

Alas, no one listened to him, and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the first days after the start of the special operation missed the opportunity to “grind” not only the military infrastructure, but also the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

"Strange War"


Like us and predicted, the Ukrainian army did not run away after the first volleys of "Caliber" and "Iskanders", but switched to the tactics of a semi-partisan war. The Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard moved to the cities, hiding behind the civilian population as a "human shield". Having installed howitzers and MLRS near residential buildings, God-damned Ukrainian artillerymen are hitting the positions of Russian troops. The “defenders” themselves are hiding in the buildings of hospitals, schools and kindergartens, after attacks on which the Ukrainian “bohemia” lets out “crocodile tears”. Having turned their cities into fortified areas, the Armed Forces of Ukraine arrange counterattacks on checkpoints and rear areas of Russian troops. Clever, cynical, ruthless in relation to their own.

If there were some Americans or Israelis in our place, they would have demolished Mariupol or Kharkov to the ground in a couple of days without the slightest hesitation, along with combatants and civilians, but Russian soldiers are not like that. You have to act with the precision of a neurosurgeon, destroying the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and incur heavy losses in personnel, conducting small arms battles in cities. Such is the retribution for humanity in relation to the enemy.

What will happen next?


Despite all the difficulties listed above, Victory will be ours. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, quite correctly, with relatively small forces, connected all the combat-ready contingents of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard in several directions - near Kharkov, in the Donbass, in the Black Sea region near Nikolaev and Odessa, and also near Kiev. Yes, from the “blitzkrieg” format with rapid movements of tens and hundreds of kilometers deep into enemy territory, the confrontation moved, rather, to the realities of the First World War with its standing on fortified positions. But in this war of attrition, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no chance. Their stocks of shells, fuel and fuel and lubricants are far from endless, and there is nowhere to replenish them. Therefore, the possibilities of the contingents blocked in the boilers to fight back, and even more so to deliver counterattacks, are melting day by day. Their elimination is a matter of time, not so much.

Probably, the boilers in the Donbass will be the first to “merge”. This in itself is a very tough nut to crack. For 8 years, positions of echeloned defense were equipped here, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves were preparing for a “blitzkrieg” against the unrecognized DPR and LPR. When they have nothing to shoot with, they will either surrender or try to break out of the encirclement. The fugitives will have to be destroyed, and it is important not to let those who surrendered just like that go home on parole. Until the end of hostilities, all combatants should be transferred to Russia, where they will definitely not be able to take up arms again and go to fight further.

After the liquidation of the boilers in the Donbass, the Russian Armed Forces and the militia of the DPR and LPR will free up forces to take control of the entire Left Bank, as well as the Black Sea region. It can be assumed that Kyiv itself will withdraw the most combat-ready units from Nikolaev and Odessa, which will be pointless to defend, in order to protect the capital and, possibly, organize new frontiers in Western Ukraine. After the Russian army will have to deal with Kiev, Volhynia and Galicia.

You have to be aware that all this will take time. - weeks, possibly months. Significant defeats will help hasten the fall of the Nazi regime. So, as long as large cities in the South-East are under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Kyiv can say that Russian troops are helpless and demotivated, unable to take a single strategically important city. (Why this happens, we said above). In this vein, the liberation of Mariupol by our military, and then Kharkov, will become an important milestone in the propaganda-psychological war. Further in Ukraine, everything will begin to crumble quickly, like dominoes.
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  1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 18 March 2022 09: 21
    +3
    For the surrender of Ukraine, Russian troops must liberate Mariupol and Kharkov.

    The title is too categorical.
    Instead of "Mariupol and Kharkov" then it will be necessary to write "Kyiv" and "Odessa" (by the way, the hero cities of the last world war). It seems that here many "vangovators" are trying to surpass Nostradamus himself.
    1. passing by Online passing by
      passing by (passing by) 18 March 2022 09: 25
      +1
      heroes were given to them for political reasons. propaganda, so to speak, otherwise the Ukrainian "scientists" prone to betrayal would look flawed. although much worse. it was possible for the Russians not to be given a well-deserved order, and the crests received everything that was issued to them.
      1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 18 March 2022 09: 39
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        Ukrainian "scientists" prone to betrayal

        Lieutenant General A.A. Vlasov was a "Ukrainian".

        it was possible for the Russians not to be given a well-deserved order, and the crests received everything that was issued to them.

        Tn Lokot self-government was in 1941-43 "on the land of Ukraine."
        1. passing by Online passing by
          passing by (passing by) 18 March 2022 10: 09
          -2
          I advise you to look deeper and wider. And not limited to one century. Vlasov, as Khmelnitsky, was not erected monuments. Well, Odessa was an analogue of "Lokot self-government".
          Heads of the Lokot self-government:
          Voskoboinik Konstantin Pavlovich was born in 1895 in the town of Smela, Cherkasy district, Kiev province (now Cherkasy region of Ukraine)
          Bronislav Vladislavovich Kaminsky (June 16, 1899, Dobzhin-nad-Vislon, Kingdom of Poland or Polotsk district, Vitebsk province
          everywhere like a stigma ...
          1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 18 March 2022 15: 06
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            I advise you to look deeper and wider.

            In your interpretation of "deeper and wider": we (it is not clear who exactly) are white, fluffy, from all sides - just perfect. All the rest, around, are enemies or, at best, "prone to betrayal." You have everything - in black and white, and vision, and MCC, and perception of the world.
            1. passing by Online passing by
              passing by (passing by) 18 March 2022 16: 22
              -1
              who are all of these? Is the globe of Ukraine on the table? it's only about Russians and dill.
              1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 18 March 2022 22: 15
                +1
                Come on, come on, pass by, goodbye.
              2. Volga073 Offline Volga073
                Volga073 (MIKLE) 19 March 2022 05: 23
                +2
                Cremation of the national battalion "Azov" at "Azovstal" :)
    2. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 18 March 2022 09: 31
      -3
      and in Ukraine, in Israel and other countries where a large diaspora of people from the Independent ...

      1) Natives of the Independent in Ukraine kaGBE are at home.
      2) The author needs to clarify the meaning of the word "diaspora". "Diaspora natives" - part of the people, that is, simply "diaspora".
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 March 2022 09: 59
        +3

        1) Natives of the Independent in Ukraine kaGBE are at home.
        2) The author needs to clarify the meaning of the word "diaspora". "Diaspora natives" - part of the people, that is, simply "diaspora".

        Actually, it goes there with a comma.

        Diaspora (Greek διασπορά, "scattering") - part of the people (ethnos), living outside their country of origin, forming close-knit and stable ethnic groups in the country of residence, and having social institutions to maintain and develop their identity and community[1

        You quote, so do it in its entirety, and not in fragments that are beneficial to you.
        1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 18 March 2022 15: 08
          0
          Why is the word "immigrants" stuck?
      2. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
        DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 21 March 2022 13: 24
        0
        This is not their home. Not their land. They might have been neighbors, but became freeloaders and criminals. Now they won't be.
    3. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 March 2022 10: 08
      +2
      It seems that here many "vangovators" are trying to surpass Nostradamus himself.

      Nostradamus tried to predict. We do analysis and forecasts based on it.
  2. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 18 March 2022 09: 41
    +2
    Mikhail Onufrienko has a remarkable video showing how a resident of one of the villages met Russian troops. Her joy was accompanied by the words "I saw the military. At first I thought that they were our Ukrainians. And then I saw that they were your Russians."
    The work of the subconscious is remarkable here. "Ours" and "Yours". No caliber will fix this. This is a job for 20 years. And you need to start with a kindergarten. With such a mindset, it is at least premature to talk about joining.
    And about the surrender is hard to believe. Kyiv will not sign it. So there will be more agreements.
    1. Sergey Pavlenko Offline Sergey Pavlenko
      Sergey Pavlenko (Sergey Pavlenko) 18 March 2022 11: 18
      +3
      So maybe on purpose we put forward such conditions that Kyiv will not accept, we will continue to destroy these bastards ...
    2. zloybond Offline zloybond
      zloybond (steppenwolf) 19 March 2022 11: 10
      +3
      Even if Kyiv signs something, the price of this signature is worthless. hi The Minsk agreements are a bright marker showing how important some kind of squiggle on a piece of paper is for Kyiv - it’s called “Go and wipe yourself! Russia should not have half measures in this operation. It’s either everything or nothing. Otherwise, the Army and the People will not understand the meaning of the shed blood. And this will be an indicator of ability.If Russia is not able to crush all this insignificance to the end, then the world will understand that power as a current is not yet power.So to the very western borders. hi
    3. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
      DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 21 March 2022 13: 27
      -4
      You, as always, brilliantly noticed and idiotically interpreted). And the conclusion ... just a Ukrainian song). About nothing and close). They told you, kindly, learn the materiel! And you again ... What to take from you ...
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 21 March 2022 16: 37
        -1
        DV tam 25, everything has its time, I hope that it will come, and you will learn to capture the meaning of what you read. smile
        1. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
          DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 22 March 2022 12: 53
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          Your chatter is empty.
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 22 March 2022 15: 38
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            Quote: DV tam 25
            Your chatter is empty.

            It is a pity that in my words you also could not find anything useful for yourself. sad
            1. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
              DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 22 March 2022 15: 54
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              Pity yourself. There is nothing useful in idle chatter.
  3. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 18 March 2022 09: 45
    -2
    but Russian soldiers are not like that.

    Not Russian soldiers, but Russian soldiers. Not only Russians die there, but also Chechens, for example.
    I did not read further: there are a lot of inaccuracies and absurdities.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 March 2022 10: 00
      +3
      I did not read further: there are a lot of inaccuracies and absurdities.

      It's okay, we'll survive. hi
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        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 March 2022 07: 20
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          Yesterday all sites hung temporarily.
          1. Victorio Offline Victorio
            Victorio (Victorio) 20 March 2022 20: 15
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            Quote: Marzhetsky
            Yesterday all sites hung temporarily.

            understandable, but our site is blocked
      2. Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
        Shmurzik (Seymslav) 21 March 2022 11: 42
        -2
        tied her own hands, calling liberation Ukraine from Nazi regime not "Great Patriotic War-2", but only a special military operation that does not involve further occupation and change ruling in Kyiv Nazi regime.

        Isn't it time to decide on the meaning of the goal
        this ... Operation "Y"??

        Firstly, apparently, the task of taking by storm the large cities of the Russian army was not originally set.

        Well, how was it planned to change the regime without taking the city? The whole history of the wars of mankind - battles for administrative and economic units - tobish cities!

        If you believe the statement of the popular
        BLOGGER Yuri Podolyaki, covering the campaign with reference to his own sources, there were some agreements with the local Ukrainian authorities that they themselves would hand over the keys to the cities

        Nothing to say ...- a reliable source for building a strategy for warfare !!! (((
        К "grandmother in two" Did you try to contact the General Staff?

        Literally:

        The talent of a politician lies not in predicting certain events, but in convincingly explaining why those predicted events did not come true later ...

        Winston Churchill

        Your article from this very opera ...
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 23 March 2022 15: 54
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      It’s better to count how many soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already died and more will die, we won’t count the destroyed geeks from the national battalions, these Nazi bastards .. no one feels sorry for them, they are dear to them.
  4. passing by Online passing by
    passing by (passing by) 18 March 2022 09: 53
    0
    A native of Ukraine was arrested in the Moscow region for inciting violence against Russian military personnel, the UK reported.

    It's time for Ukrainians not to issue Russian citizenship, but to deprive them en masse. The descendants of Tamerlane have already been expelled by echelons, and we will live without the descendants of Mazepa.
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  5. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 18 March 2022 10: 07
    +4
    For the liberation of Ukraine, it is necessary to block the railway and automobile supply channels on the border with Poland, Slovakia, Romania
    Block air and sea communications, disrupt the operation of the internal transport network, communications, the Internet, Swift, disable defense enterprises.
    Without this, the war will last indefinitely and a lot of blood, and the victory will be doubtful.
  6. Oleg_5 Offline Oleg_5
    Oleg_5 (Oleg) 18 March 2022 10: 09
    +3
    They signed a lot of things before .... what's the point?
  7. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. 18 March 2022 10: 10
    +4
    ... The problem is that V. Putin wants to fight ... "in white gloves."
    ... But it does not happen!
  8. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 March 2022 10: 52
    +2
    Quote: Mikhail L.
    ... The problem is that V. Putin wants to fight ... "in white gloves."
    ... But it does not happen!

    Losses will force a change of approach. Soon...
    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 23 March 2022 16: 05
      0
      Pity and tolerance for our enemy have never brought anything good, how many times in response to our noble behavior we received a knife in the back, it would be time to finally understand this and act more firmly and decisively, negotiations with the so-called government of Ukraine are useless they will not lead, these are just attempts to drag out time and nothing more.
  9. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 18 March 2022 11: 05
    +2
    For the surrender of Ukraine, Russian troops must liberate Mariupol and Kharkov

    - For the successful conduct of a special operation, it is necessary not only to occupy and liberate cities, towns, facilities and territory from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and from the Nazis - but also to destroy, exterminate them themselves - these Armed Forces of Ukraine and Nazis !!! - Otherwise it won't work!
    - I already wrote recently - why Russia does not use serious destructive weapons of high destructive power and strategic aviation with its missiles; bombs of enormous destructive power (penetrating BetAB concrete-piercing bombs) ??? - Today, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Nazis are very disastrous for themselves concentrated near Donetsk-Lugansk quite tightly - they are not stretched and are located quite compactly - and there is very little civilian population! - That's just for this APU-shnoy grouping and fortified area and it is necessary to beat and bomb them with strategists !!! - This will cause colossal devastation in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Natsiks !!! - And how many lives of our soldiers it will save !!! - Personally, I don’t understand at all - why did we decide to continue to fight so humanely and further - how are we fighting now ???
  10. Sergey Pavlenko Offline Sergey Pavlenko
    Sergey Pavlenko (Sergey Pavlenko) 18 March 2022 11: 14
    +4
    In vain our almonds in Ukraine, let them yelp in the west, they will still yelp, therefore, a shot rang out, it doesn’t matter from where, to raze this place to the ground and so on, why lose our guys ???
  11. VID 2 Offline VID 2
    VID 2 18 March 2022 11: 54
    +3
    I will correct the author in order to bring Victory closer:
    a) defeat the Donetsk group - about 70 personnel troops.
    b) Mariupol has been liberated by 2/3, but this is not enough. Kharkov should be liberated here I do not argue.
    c) THE MAIN THING is AIR DOMINATION. Intercept the supply of weapons, but there are no weapons and there is no war. You can't go against a tank or an armored personnel carrier with one Kalashnikov
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 March 2022 08: 18
      +3
      b) Mariupol has been liberated by 2/3, but this is not enough. Kharkov should be liberated here I do not argue.

      Mariupol will have a symbolic meaning. The first large and strategically important city that the Nazis held. To defeat in the minds of Ukrainian jingoistic patriots. Then Kharkov and after that everything will start to crumble quickly.
  12. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 18 March 2022 12: 55
    +1
    So, for all of us, a glaring strategic mistake of the Russian leadership came back to haunt us, when all issues had to be resolved with little bloodshed in 2014 ..
    1. Valery 72 s Offline Valery 72 s
      Valery 72 s (Valery) 20 March 2022 16: 40
      0
      How our political scientists, journalists do not like this truth, they jump out of their pants, for example Solovyov, proving that Russia could not do this at that time, like there was no new weapon. He thinks everyone is stupid. And the problem is that in our country one person makes the decision, and often the decisions are erroneous. As for example, the recognition of Poroshenko's elections, after all, it was necessary to think of such a thing. Now he says - probably We were Not quite right (. I remember Kharkov in 2014, the square filled with Russian flags, eh. The Jews betrayed Kernus, Dopkin and our president, shame.
  13. NikolayN Offline NikolayN
    NikolayN (Nikolai) 18 March 2022 13: 09
    +1
    Not sure if a quick win is needed. Perhaps the Western world should be tired of the war, they should now begin to live in fear of a future war, the Ukrainians themselves should be well tired of the war and start thinking with their heads. Secondly, a quick victory is what, surrender? Why do we need their prisoners. Most of the VSU must be destroyed, especially since they themselves want so. The longer it will last, the longer Ukraine will be restored, the more likely the self-disintegration of Ukraine.
  14. maiman61 Offline maiman61
    maiman61 (Yuri) 18 March 2022 14: 20
    +1
    The longer we pull the rubber, the worse it will be for us! Anti-tank missiles, MANPADS, the river will soon flow through the western borders of the stolen goods and, falling into the hands of Bandera, will wash our soldiers with blood. And the fact that the majority of Bandera in Ukraine is a fact! And you can't argue against the fact. We must quickly end this farce, but only with an unconditional victory!
  15. Homeless Offline Homeless
    Homeless (Vladimir) 18 March 2022 21: 51
    +4
    Of course, it is necessary to start from Mariupol, and finish in Lviv and Rivne, otherwise everything is useless!
  16. Plumber Sun Offline Plumber Sun
    Plumber Sun (San San) 18 March 2022 22: 11
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    Colonel-General of the Russian Federation on the lessons of the special operation in Ukraine
    https://skeptimist.livejournal.com/4455800.html
  17. Berton Offline Berton
    Berton (Vladimir) 18 March 2022 23: 02
    -1
    So you propose to smash all the cities of Ukraine to hell?
    Strong move-)
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 March 2022 07: 22
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      Highlight in the text where it is written.
  18. And W2 Offline And W2
    And W2 (And W2) 19 March 2022 00: 41
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    It is humanely necessary to close the water supply and sewerage, damage or destroy it, and without human casualties. This is not for you to close the channels and undermine the power grid. Residents of the cities SAMI, voluntarily and with songs, Bandera will be taken out of the cities.
    Why should we destroy our military and volunteers, the color of the nation.
  19. Volga073 Offline Volga073
    Volga073 (MIKLE) 19 March 2022 05: 19
    -1
    There is no need to rush, you understand?
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  21. Colonel Kudasov Offline Colonel Kudasov
    Colonel Kudasov (Boris) 19 March 2022 06: 57
    -2
    Russia does not need Kyiv, let alone Lvov. It is necessary to confine ourselves to Novorossiya. Quite sufficient cordon sanitaire. And it can be done in real time
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 19 March 2022 08: 19
      +2
      This is a repeat of the mistakes of 2014. On an even larger scale. Not a single piece of Ukrainian territory should be left uncontrolled.
  22. oracul Offline oracul
    oracul (leonid) 19 March 2022 07: 43
    +2
    If without emotions, then the only thing is, perhaps, they overestimated the behavior of people and their support. The beginning showed that the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Nazis, with the help of NATO, had been preparing all these years for a war of annihilation, brainwashed and intimidated the people. Ours are learning, learning lessons, changing tactics, protecting people.
  23. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 19 March 2022 08: 53
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    Relatives of DPR fighters live in Mariupol, whom the Nazis use as human shields. Kharkov is also a Russian city. But in the cities of Anti-Russia there should be a different tactic - to shoot where the projectile came from. Relatives of the Bandera people already live there, whom the Nazis will already feel sorry for. Why stand on ceremony with Bandera Kiev? Kievans wore pies to Bandera on the Maidan in 2004 and 2014. Kyiv should look like Grozny after the Chechen war. And the West will spoil us in any case, even if we show miracles of mercy.
  24. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 19 March 2022 09: 05
    -1
    When the Great Patriotic War began, the Germans began to use hostages as human shields. Stalin ordered to shoot at the hostages and the Germans. The Germans immediately abandoned this practice. Stalin's wisdom would have made the terrorists stop using hostages to achieve their goals. They would lose a few people, but thousands would be saved.
  25. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 19 March 2022 09: 09
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    For capitulation, Lviv, Uzhgorod and Ivano-Frankivsk must be wiped off the face of the Earth.
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  27. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 19 March 2022 14: 38
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    Quote from Burton.
    So you propose to smash all the cities of Ukraine to hell?
    Strong move-)

    Why is everything? You can play in the wall, because there are no longer mutilated fascists.
    What are you sculpting? Our guys pay with their blood for the lives of those who betrayed them all the time. And especially since 2014. And I would have knocked on the wall. Kyiv would spare. Still, the mother of Russian cities. But, in return, he burned the entire Western region with Pinocchio.
    1. Kim Rum Eun Offline Kim Rum Eun
      Kim Rum Eun (Kim Rum Yn) 19 March 2022 15: 20
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      Still, the mother of Russian cities.

      In the language of that time it meant "capital". I must say, the temporary capital.
      Like Suzdal, Vladimir or Rostov.
  28. Sergey Skorlupin (Sergey Skorlupin) 19 March 2022 17: 25
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    The author described only part of the process, the first part of it is the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but the first part may be followed by the second part, the guerrilla-terrorist war. It is difficult to imagine that the unfinished Nazis and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will drop their weapons and take up gardening and horticulture, but it is very easy to imagine the formation of a mass of armed detachments, gangs, if you like. And it will be a completely different war, where there is no front, where the enemy can appear from anywhere and at any time, in such a war, tanks, planes, artillery, no longer have the same weight as in a conventional positional war. In my opinion, it is extremely difficult to control the vast territory of Ukraine, this will require huge human and any other resources. In my opinion, the main threat lies precisely in the likelihood of such a scenario, and not the threat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to our troops.
    Of course, all terrorist bandits will eventually be destroyed, but the process can be long and can take many lives.
  29. Kim Rum Eun Offline Kim Rum Eun
    Kim Rum Eun (Kim Rum Yn) 19 March 2022 20: 45
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    Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he will never give up the belief that Russians and Ukrainians are one people. He said this while opening a meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation.
    “At the same time, I will never give up my conviction that Russians and Ukrainians are one people. Even though some of the inhabitants of Ukraine were intimidated, many were fooled by Nazi, nationalist propaganda, and someone deliberately followed the path of Bandera, others minions of the Nazis," Putin said.

    Many of the local "patriots of Russia" consider themselves smarter than its president and want to be more Catholic than the Pope himself.
  30. Awaz Offline Awaz
    Awaz (Walery) 19 March 2022 21: 10
    +2
    I have already written the same thing for the thousandth time: the Armed Forces of Ukraine or even Kyiv would have begun to surrender if in the first three or four days the entire grouping on the front line near the Donbass had been encircled and the West would have refused military and even political assistance. And although the West supports the remnants of Ukraine only morally and with a few weapons, the boilers were not made quickly and now everything is being dragged into the slaughter. The authorities of Ukraine will not surrender under any circumstances. Firstly, they save their own skins, secondly, their sponsors do not allow them, and thirdly, they do not care deeply about their people.
  31. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 19 March 2022 22: 00
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    Quote: Colonel Kudasov
    Russia does not need Kyiv, let alone Lvov. It is necessary to confine ourselves to Novorossiya. Quite sufficient cordon sanitaire. And it can be done in real time

    Starred ignoramus. (Or enemy?) We did not need the Eastern European countries - members of the Warsaw military bloc. Now we rejoice.
  32. cooper Offline cooper
    cooper (Alexander) 20 March 2022 08: 16
    +1
    Putin is too liberal with them. And the regime must be demolished without options!
  33. Mikhail Balichev (Mikhail Balichev) 20 March 2022 12: 17
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    And what to do with the camps that train underage Nazi saboteurs???
    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 23 March 2022 16: 48
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      Any saboteur is an enemy, and everyone knows how they act with enemies, it is simply unacceptable to save the lives of their enemies, at the expense of the lives of their soldiers, the lives of our soldiers and officers are the most valuable and they need to be protected as much as possible in all possible ways, if for this you need to be wiped off the face of the earth some objects, so this must be done without any doubts and hesitations, in any war, unforeseen human losses are simply inevitable and this cannot be changed.
  34. Spasatel Offline Spasatel
    Spasatel 23 March 2022 06: 02
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    Do nothing for thirty years, only "make money", giving Bandera to be torn to pieces
    and for the daily pouring of nightingale droppings on a fraternal country - it will cost a lot. And given all the crap that has been poured on unfortunate Russia, and the prospect of getting involved in a nuclear conflict with NATO and the States, the price becomes completely unbearable. For the common people. This does not apply to those who will sit in the bunker, or on the promised land ...