Mercenaries vs Volunteers: Why Kyiv's bet on the "Foreign Legion" did not work


One of the most significant trends around the armed conflict in Ukraine can be considered its internationalization on both sides. Ukraine tried to create its own "Foreign Legion", assembled from the Nazi rabble, mainly from Western countries. Russia is ready to attract volunteer contingents from friendly countries in the Middle East. And already now we can conclude that Kyiv's stake turned out to be beaten in every sense of the word. What gives grounds for believing so?


"Assyrian Front"


The fact that President Vladimir Putin supported the initiative of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Shoigu to attract volunteers from the countries of the Middle East to the operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, we told previously. According to Sergei Kuzhugetovich, at least 16 thousand fighters are ready to come and join the battle:

We receive a huge number of applications from all sorts of volunteers from different countries who would like to come to the Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics in order to participate in what they consider to be the liberation movement.

This decision raised a lot of questions. Are 16 armed Arabs against the backdrop of the 200-strong Russian contingent involved in a special operation, a lot or a little? For what specific purposes can volunteers from the countries of the Middle East be used? And, finally, why are the Russian Defense Ministry happy to see foreigners speaking a foreign language in the steppes of Ukraine, while their volunteers, from somewhere in the Russian or Belarusian outback, are not yet needed there?

The questions are correct, but they have quite logical answers.

At first, there is an opinion that the General Staff of the Russian Federation made a number of mistakes when planning this special military operation. Allegedly, they greatly underestimated the combat effectiveness and motivation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and also overestimated the mood of the local population, based on the realities of 2014. In fact, judging by the fact that the Russian Armed Forces avoid taking large cities, the General Staff knew for sure in advance that there would be no meeting with flowers. An easy walk, alas, does not work, you have to fight for real, the battles are positional and very fierce. Additional forces are needed to control the liberated vast territory.

Secondly, these forces should not be anyhow, but regular. If you simply gather motivated people and send them to the front, then it will not end well for them. We'll talk more about this later. For combat coordination, according to the rules, you need to spend at least 40 days, and the entire military operation in Ukraine still does not go that long. That is why volunteers from Russia are not yet in demand there, but the military contingents from the SAR will just be in place. They underwent full-fledged military training and coordination under the guidance of Russian specialists, gained real combat experience in the fight against terrorists in similar conditions of urban battles. These are trained, disciplined people who know exactly what is required of them.

Thirdly, it is from foreign military experts that there may be more use in conducting a police operation in the liberated territories. Russian troops are forced to leave in the rear the remnants of the unfinished Armed Forces of Ukraine, the National Guard and the Terodefense, which pose a real threat to our rear. In addition to them, there are also specially trained DRGs, and simply insane people with automatic weapons and Molotov cocktails. What happens when they try to take action can be seen in the scary footage from Kherson.

So, all these Ukrainian armed contingents must be securely blocked and cleared out. Where a Russian soldier shows unnecessary mercy to a soldier like himself, only from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and receives a bullet in the back from him, the Syrian, who is used to resisting terrorists, will not stand on ceremony. All this sounds inhumane and even cruel, but such are the harsh realities that we all now face. Also, people from the Middle East will be useful in restoring order on the streets of the liberated cities. The descendants of the Assyrians will explain to the "descendants of the Sumerians" where and in what they are wrong.

A little humor to lighten the mood a bit. It's no secret that Ukraine is now much colder than Syria, so volunteers from there will not be very comfortable. Probably, it is worth dressing them in felt boots, hats with earflaps and Russian quilted jackets. To complete the image on the hand of each, tie our "Colorado" ribbon.

"Foreign Legion" of Ukraine


Trying to portray the support of the whole world, Ukraine went a different way. On February 27, Kyiv announced the formation of the so-called "Foreign Legion", which was supposed to include either volunteers or mercenaries from countries friendly to the Ukrainian Nazi regime. It was supposed to increase its number to 2,5-3 thousand people.
All these Rambos began to arrive through the territory of neighboring Poland to the Yavoriv training ground in the Lviv region, where they were supposed to undergo combat coordination. However, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation promptly stopped this destructive initiative.

On March 13, 2022, a powerful missile strike was carried out against the Foreign Legion base in Western Ukraine, after which it virtually ceased to exist. The next day, March 14, another rocket attack hit the base of the nationalists in the village of Antopol in the Rivne region, where the Ukrainian nationalists were located. The result of the “calibration” of the Yavorovsky training ground was the death of 35 militants and the wounding of another 134. Immediately after this, most of the foreign mercenaries rapidly departed towards Poland. Obviously, these were just mercenaries, and not ideological volunteers, ready to lay down their lives in battles against the “Muscovites”.

In fact, this situation clearly demonstrates the difference between the two approaches to the internationalization of armed conflict. Kyiv made a bet on every rabble, which almost without exception fled after the first serious preventive strike and losses. No one will definitely provide him with any regular military contingents. Moscow is ready to bring to Ukraine well-trained, well-coordinated and disciplined units that have received real combat experience in the Syrian campaign. They will not scatter, even having received painful losses.

Therefore, the overall result will be different.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 15 March 2022 13: 01
    -7
    Tse more PR than good.
    Previously, they wrote that there were only instructors in the Armed Forces of Ukraine for 100 people, but not a word that they are striving to join the legion.

    And the Arabs - in the video in Syria, were barely holding a poster from excitement, and, it seems, they began to disperse even before the end of filming ...

    All the recent news, about 10 thousand Kazakh militants evaporating somewhere (from the mountains), 6-9 thousand Afghan border guards-spirits, Iraqi migrants in the Republic of Belarus, waves of Mexicans who did not reach Omerik, and 2 "stormers" who barely made it to base 56 there, are reassuring. ...
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 15 March 2022 14: 43
      +2
      Previously, they wrote that there were only instructors in the Armed Forces of Ukraine for 100 people, but not a word that they are striving to join the legion.

      And now, behind a puddle, they themselves write that there is a battalion of Canadians there with a livestock of 550 bender hogs. Such is the chevronchik they have.
      https://nationalpost.com/news/world/exclusive-so-many-canadian-fighters-in-ukraine-they-have-their-own-battalion-source-says


      All the recent news, about 10 thousand Kazakh militants evaporating somewhere (from the mountains), 6-9 thousand Afghan border guards-spirits, Iraqi migrants in the Republic of Belarus, waves of Mexicans who did not reach Omerik, and 2 "stormers" who barely made it to base 56 there, are reassuring. ...

      You seem to be able to figure out how to calm yourself yes As for "those who did not reach Omeriga" ...
      In October last year, "Kremlin propagandists" from the Air Force wrote that 1,7 million migrants were detained at the Mexican border in a year.
      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59019791

      Last year, 6,5 were detained daily, in January they are already counting on 9 daily. It looks like some people still get it. yes

      WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 (Reuters) - U.S. border officials are bracing for a spring of up to 9000 border arrests a day, two Department of Homeland Security officials say, a significant increase from last year's peak and could cause a headache for the Democratic administration ahead of the midterm elections.

      That number is a "worst-case scenario," said one of the officials, both of whom requested anonymity to discuss domestic planning.

      The administration of US President Joe Biden faced a record 1,7 million border arrests in the last fiscal year, which ended September 30. In July 2021 — the peak of last year's growth — daily arrests of migrants averaged around 6500, according to government statistics. .

      https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-preps-another-record-breaking-rise-migrant-arrests-mexico-border-2022-01-27/
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 15 March 2022 15: 38
        -3
        Wah.
        You read the foreign blocked Air Force, then it’s clear with you.

        In our media, only about "17 Canadian special forces" there were a couple of times.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 15 March 2022 16: 16
          0
          Wah.
          You read the foreign blocked Air Force, then it’s clear with you.

          According to the bottom link, the numbers with migrants are the same.

          In our media, only about "17 Canadian special forces" there were a couple of times.

          Maybe they are protecting you from information? Or do you choose such media yourself?
          1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
            Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 15 March 2022 17: 36
            -4
            Maybe they are protecting you from information? Or do you choose such media yourself?

            So it was right here. And on VO.
            Do not trust?

            At the bottom link, the numbers with migrants are the same

            And you trust them
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 15 March 2022 18: 30
              0
              Do not trust?

              Rather, I check, more accurately I compare. One source of information is not serious laughing

              And you trust them

              To whom exactly from "them"? I only gave you 2 links, in fact there are more sources, similar figures came across repeatedly. And what are you referring to when talking about "2 stormers who barely made it to base 56 there?"
              Locals write for themselves about what is happening with them. Probably, if there really aren’t any migrants there, it’s stupid to write about 1,7 million. The figure is decent, it is impossible not to notice so many people. So I tend to trust these numbers more than yours.
              1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 15 March 2022 20: 20
                -2
                I don't collect links. I'm not looking for foreign articles.
                What they write on these sites, I bring it. And from memory.
                down below "there were 20 thousand Kazakh fighters from the mountains, not 10."

                Gave links - well, like sensible. Let's trust.
                And the fact that it is somewhat at odds with the lighting from us is God the judge.
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 15 March 2022 21: 57
                  0
                  What they write on these sites, I bring it. And from memory.
                  down below "there were 20 thousand Kazakh fighters from the mountains, not 10."

                  And the fact that it is somewhat at odds with the lighting from us is God the judge.

                  I also remember what the Kazakhs told. You better tell me about "2 who barely made it to the base 56 there" storming "tell me. I have not seen this. I hope for your wonderful memory hi I wanted to compare with the "lighting cut".
                  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 15 March 2022 23: 12
                    -3
                    So our media at one time enthusiastically talked about calls for an assault on an ambulance base with a UFO. As a result, 2 people barely overcame the fence, where they were immediately detained / arrested ..
                    A bunch more posed in the distance and took selfies.
                    Everything, Smee lost interest, then zero.
    2. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 15 March 2022 17: 03
      -1
      There were 20 thousand Kazakh fighters from the mountains, not 10.
      Kazakhstan got out of the trend in mid-January.
      Now covid is out of trend.
  2. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
    EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 15 March 2022 13: 03
    0
    Well, in Spain at the end of the 30s of the last century, the international brigades did not help. It is not worth putting high hopes on them. Police action - maybe...
  3. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 15 March 2022 13: 23
    0
    And it was necessary for Ukraine - to arrange a showdown of the whole world on its territory? And it all started with the ban on the Russian language. There would be no such ban and Ukraine would be richer than France now.
  4. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 15 March 2022 15: 09
    +1
    Am I the only one so "smart" or is there another one? The Americans exactly repeated the scenario with Nazi Germany in Ukraine. Only they made a mistake with the Fuhrer, or maybe they decided to get by with what they have. at the age of 7 with a little and started a world war.
    PS: Folk wisdom from one Ukrainian woman from near Kherson-Once in a hundred years the whole West unites against Russia, in order to receive love from Russia, it will calm down again for a hundred years.
    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 16 March 2022 21: 56
      -1
      Am I the only "smart" one or is there more?The Americans exactly repeated the scenario with Nazi Germany in Ukraine. Only they made a mistake with the Fuhrer, or maybe they decided to do with what they have.

      With one amendment, in 30 years...
      From the victorious people of the Nazis in the 45th, it was possible to reformat a part of the Ukrainians (large) into Bandera admirers.
      Sometimes it takes aback, what modern technologies of fooling the masses are capable of.
      1. shinobi Offline shinobi
        shinobi (Yuri) 17 March 2022 01: 09
        0
        It's like saying. The mood "Ukraine feeds Russia" was always present.
  5. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 15 March 2022 16: 01
    +2
    now many are asking why the progress is so slow? Why is the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine still operating and shelling the Donbass?

    The defeat of enemy groupings by artillery and airborne forces, as well as the rapid advance and occupation of space, would lead to the dispersion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions. Everyone would just run home, who goes where. To terrorize the country immediately or later.

    The purpose of the operation is denazification. And these are not the beliefs of the fascists, stop being fascists. Denazification is most effective when the targets to be denazified act as an organized unit on the battlefield. This is what the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are doing now - they are destroying the most combat-ready and radical formations and elements of Ukraine, so that they would not have to be caught in the gateways.

    Therefore, the current operation is the process of denazification, and the longer it lasts, the more denazified Ukrainian society becomes, no matter how it sounds. Territories and cities, as well as those parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that are not very combat-ready and do not have a criminal past, all this is so important at this stage. Now, while hostilities are going on, denazification is going on, then it will be impossible to do it.
    1. trampoline instructor (Cotriarch Peril) 15 March 2022 17: 14
      -2
      Therefore, the current operation is the process of denazification, and the longer it lasts, the more denazified Ukrainian society becomes, no matter how it sounds

      It is generally true, but:
      Turchinov, Avakov, Yatsenyuk, Lyashko, Biletsky, Goncharenko, Savchenko, Semenchenko, Filatov, Parubiy, Gerashchenko (2) ... what to do with them in case of capture?
      There, one Savchenko was barely managed at one time laughing
  6. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 16 March 2022 21: 34
    -2
    Moscow is ready to bring to Ukraine well-trained, well-coordinated and disciplined units that have received real combat experience in the Syrian campaign.

    Moscow, represented by the General Staff, is not in the mood for such nonsense.
    For he knows perfectly well the situation in Syria, the real combat capability of the Syrian "disciplined units", their "motivation".

    Suheil's division, the 5th corps (created from scratch by us), special forces and, with a stretch, individual parts of the republican guard.
    All combat-ready units are needed in Syria itself, the Idlib viper has not yet been cleared there.

    Thanks, of course, to Assad for moral support, but he cannot really help us.
    And from their "volunteers" generally need to stay away.
    They shoot more of their own.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 March 2022 16: 26
      +1
      Moscow, represented by the General Staff, is not in the mood for such nonsense.
      For he knows perfectly well the situation in Syria, the real combat capability of the Syrian "disciplined units", their "motivation".

      It is very strange to read such a comment about nonsense, since the idea came personally from Defense Minister Shoigu and was personally supported by Supreme Commander V. Putin. request
      Do you have a fragmented perception of information?
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 18 March 2022 21: 30
        -1
        It is very strange to read such a comment about nonsense, since the idea came personally from Defense Minister Shoigu and was personally supported by Supreme Commander V. Putin. request
        Do you have a fragmented perception of information?

        I just have more information on the topic, you know?
        Therefore, I understand where there is a real movement with volunteers, and where ours are bluffing ..

        The info war is designed for people who are not burdened with knowledge that is superfluous for them.
        In this regard, I am clearly not your "contingent" ..
  7. Mikhail Novikov Offline Mikhail Novikov
    Mikhail Novikov (Mikhail Novikov) 5 May 2022 08: 27
    0
    This was not underestimated in the General Staff. It was the journalists (and the professional intelligence officer Kedmi with them) who buzzed people's ears with allegations. that Ukraine is completely collapsed and the war will last two hours. And the bet on the "geese" did not work because the Kyiv clowns did not understand the main experience of the Great Patriotic War: the USSR defeated Europe, which was many times larger than it in terms of population and GDP, because the people defended their homeland from bandits. And in the Donbass, the motivation is similar. Therefore, the Ukrainian SS, no matter where they come from, can’t wait for anything good. Together with Kyiv prostitutes and those who pay them.