What will the appearance of the Kherson People's Republic lead to?


By the end of the third week of the special military operation of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, certain intermediate conclusions can already be drawn. The defeat of Kyiv is a foregone conclusion, but our main problems will begin later. It becomes obvious that the US strategy is to destroy the country as much as possible in the course of a senseless confrontation from a military point of view, to embitter the local population, and then hang its content on Russia in the status of a giant “Transnistria”. Can we somehow break this cruel Washington game?


How the Zelensky regime will fall


Unless something very extraordinary happens, then the armed conflict will most likely follow the following scenario. The front in the Donbass will fall first. Encircled and deprived of the opportunity to get out of the "cauldrons", the most combat-ready units of the Ukrainian army, pulled together to strike against the DPR and LPR, will be forced to lay down their arms or be destroyed. For Kyiv, this will be analogous to the defeat of the Kwantung Army for Japan. The released units of the Russian army will then quickly occupy the entire Left Bank of Ukraine, leaving control over the rear to the People's Militia Corps of the DPR and LPR.

The next to collapse the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Black Sea region. Led by stubborn Nazis, they will shed a lot of Russian blood during the liberation of Nikolaev and Odessa, but the outcome, in general, is a foregone conclusion. After that, the capital of the former Independent Kyiv will be completely surrounded, and the last offer of complete and unconditional surrender will be presented to the Ukrainian regime. If the drug addict Zelensky refuses, Kyiv will begin to liberate district after district, and all responsibility for the inevitable victims will fall on the "bloody clown."

Then the question of managing a dilapidated country in the face of maximum opposition from the United States will arise. The Americans have at least 2 options to choose from: evacuate President Zelensky somewhere in Poland and organize a “Ukrainian government in exile” there, which we will discuss in detail reasoned earlier, or try to hold on to Western Ukraine by moving the “temporary” capital from Kyiv to Lvov. Judging by how the day before they “bang” with Caliber cruise missiles at the Yavoriv training ground in the Lvov region, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation plans do not approve.

The general meaning of these events is quite obvious: not to recognize as legal the new Ukrainian authorities that will be installed by the Kremlin, turning, from the point of view of the collective West, the post-war Independence into one big “Transnistria”. What for? Then, to make it as difficult as possible to restore normal life in Ukraine, inciting its population against Russia. For this reason, one should not expect President Zelensky to fulfill the terms of surrender, and the plan itself “just to go in and force Kyiv to demilitarize and denazify” should be recognized as unsuitable. The client, so to speak, is incapable of negotiating.

And what remains to be done next?

Confederalization "from below"


If the Ukrainian “tops” refuse to cooperate, the problem will have to be solved “from below”. As we previously arrived at the conclusion, after the completion of the military operation, the former Square can no longer be left in its current form. No more unitary Russophobic state! Too late, alas, and with federalization. All that remains is splitting into several parts, but it is desirable to do this in a smart way.

The tools for this already exist - the scenario for the creation of the DPR and LPR. Naturally, now there is no time for nationwide referendums, but there is experience of the appearance of "people's mayors" and "people's governors" in a crisis period. To establish a normal life in the liberated territories, a special military-civilian administration is needed, which could include adequate people from local residents who understand that it will definitely not be the same as before. Following the example of Donbass, we should start proclaiming new People's Republics in the territories not controlled by Kiev right now. And the first can and should be Kherson.

A few days ago, the deputy of the regional council from the European Solidarity party Serhiy Khlan alarmed everyone:

The occupiers are calling the deputies of the Kherson Regional Council asking if we are ready to cooperate with them. I categorically refused... The creation of KhNR will turn our region into a hopeless hole without life and future.

"Poroshenkovets" urges colleagues not to cooperate with the "Russian occupiers". Immediately, from his bunker somewhere near Kiev, President Zelensky responded:

I will turn to some figures and activists of the Kherson region. If one of you is suddenly tempted by the proposals of the occupiers, then you will sign your own verdict.

What they were so afraid of, it is not difficult to guess. The appearance on the territory of the former Independent People's Republic will be the beginning of the process of its rapid collapse. Following Khersonskaya after the liberation of the city from the Nazis, the Kharkiv NR will be proclaimed, then Zaporozhye and Dnepropetrovsk. As the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine collapses, the Nikolaev and Odessa People's Republics will arise in the south. This means the end of Ukrainian statehood in its current form.

These new Republics will be merged together with the DPR and LPR into a new federal state, Novorossia, with Donetsk as its capital. But this should not be the end of the matter. In parallel, the same processes should take place from below in Central Ukraine - Sumy, Chernihiv, Poltava and other People's Republics, which, after the liberation of Kyiv, should unite into the federal state of Little Russia.

Also, in no case should the Americans be left a single piece of land in Western Ukraine, taking control of its entire territory. With these specific regions, everything will have to be decided individually, but the proclamation of small, not self-sufficient republics there, which will be completely dependent on the center, seems to be the right scenario.

The former Independent State itself will have to be turned from a unitary state into a confederate one, consisting of Novorossia, Little Russia and several Western Ukrainian republics. The agreement on its creation should be signed in the liberated Kyiv. Recall that the fundamental difference between a federation and a confederation lies in the right of its members to withdraw with the formation of a new sovereign state.

Thus, the confederal form of the device can become a transitional stage to the subsequent soft division of Ukraine hostile to us.
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  1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 14 March 2022 11: 54
    +4
    Ek swung it. First, he would have to dispose of the APU and the Nazis. And so share the skin of the unkilled. soldier
    1. maiman61 Offline maiman61
      maiman61 (Yuri) 14 March 2022 14: 55
      +3
      Well, yes! But Putin got involved in the war and did not think what would happen to Banderlogia! Ukraine is ANTI-RUSSIA, and that means something else is needed. You might think that in Kherson, on their own initiative, they began to stir, do you yourself believe in this?
    2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 15 March 2022 09: 33
      0
      It is likely that many can remember the flag of the Ukrainian SSR, when this territory was rich and prosperous. Here the Belarusians left the modification of their SSR flag and live much richer than the Ukraine that changed the flag. It means that they are not looking for good from good.
  2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 14 March 2022 11: 58
    +6
    Quote: Aleksey Alekseev_2
    First, to show that Russia has come forever, but this is a little tight. Even Ukrainian flags are not dropped

    What exactly to change the yellow-blue flags? On Russian or what? No, it is just necessary to change Ukrainian flags in each region to HP flags. This will show people that the power has changed forever.

    Ek swung it. First, he would have disposed of the APU and the Natsiks. And so the skin of the unkilled should be divided ..

    Smart people agree on how they will share the skin of a bear, even before the hunt. For 2,5 weeks, the Kremlin has not announced what exactly will happen to Ukraine after the war.
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 14 March 2022 12: 22
      0
      Smart people don't run ahead of the locomotive.
      1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 14 March 2022 12: 45
        0
        How do you know this?
        1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
          Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 14 March 2022 15: 36
          0
          Want to try. In this case, I am ready to support you.
          There is also a light version.
          You can also stick your fingers in the socket.
          1. Rusa Offline Rusa
            Rusa 15 March 2022 09: 03
            0
            Do you want to try...

            So the locomotive at full speed was already moving towards Russia:
            The Kyiv regime, with the support of the United States and other NATO countries, planned to launch their military operation on March 8, but the Russian Federation and the LDNR were ahead of them.
            1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
              Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 15 March 2022 12: 03
              0
              It's not in my context.
              I spoke specifically about Marzhetsky. His graphomaniac demagogy, and his sense of his own greatness.
              1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 March 2022 14: 19
                0
                I have never been a graphomaniac. And not a demagogue. And don't confuse self-esteem with self-esteem.
                Well, you're forgiven for not understanding. hi
    2. akropin Offline akropin
      akropin (Alexey) 14 March 2022 12: 59
      0
      Smart people agree on how they will share the skin of a bear, even before the hunt.

      I suppose that an offer could be made to the Hungarians and Romanians to cut the territory.
      1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 14 March 2022 15: 08
        -1
        Don’t even think about it. For GDP, the results of the Second World Catechism and the Bible are in one bottle. You will see that the rehabilitation of Stalin I.V. is a matter of several days. Well weeks
        1. Rusa Offline Rusa
          Rusa 15 March 2022 09: 12
          +1
          Why rehabilitate him?
          I.V. Stalin is an outstanding politician of world importance, a historical fact. He still has the highest rating among the population of Russia.
    3. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 14 March 2022 15: 02
      +1
      How did you not mention it. That Ukraine will no longer exist. And in general it will not be. Uncle Vova is a security officer. and probably calculated. Although here everything is clear even without a miscalculation. If only his entourage did not get confused
    4. wolf46 Offline wolf46
      wolf46 14 March 2022 15: 20
      +1
      What exactly to change the yellow-blue flags? On Russian or what? No, it is just necessary to change Ukrainian flags in each region to HP flags. This will show people that the power has changed forever.

      Definitely, yellow-blakyt - on regional flags: if only they would not continue to flutter in the liberated territories. And Russian ones - on the buildings of military commandant's offices.

      For 2,5 weeks, the Kremlin has not announced what exactly will happen to Ukraine after the war.

      Obviously, before the start of the special operation, the Kremlin was counting on the Crimean scenario and the return of pre-Maidan Ukraine: only the lazy did not discuss military miscalculations in the planning of the NWO.
      According to rumors, the Russian delegation at the talks threatens to lose the South of Ukraine in the event of Ukrainian abandonment of the conditional "Minsk-3".
  3. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 14 March 2022 12: 18
    -1
    What will the appearance of the Kherson People's Republic lead to?

    - Damn, the beast is still hurting with might and main, crap and atrocities - and its "skin" has already begun to be divided!
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 14 March 2022 15: 38
      0
      Gorenina, a sincere plus from me to you!
  4. Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 14 March 2022 12: 21
    0
    With this Ukrainian bloody chaos arranged by the Galician bandit rabble, we will have to sort it out for a very long time, and Ukraine itself, without Galicia, should already be formed into volosts and counties, until we restore relative order there, and only then let them transform at least into federal republics Russia, but Galicia needs to be dealt with without any snot, and so that not a single one of our soldiers suffers after that, a complete cleansing of the entire enemy territory with all the infrastructure and population, like the United States in the SFRY, with the help of Tomahawks, until surrender is requested, and send the survivors to the fierce tundra, as the interned Germans were sent from 1941, otherwise they and their descendants will again repeat their "revolution of hydness" in 20-50 years.
  5. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
    Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 14 March 2022 12: 40
    +2
    What will the appearance of the Kherson People's Republic lead to?

    Will lead to one of the stages of the formation of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic within its historical borders
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 14 March 2022 13: 10
      -6
      Have you dealt with Donetsk and Luhansk regions already? all brains corrected? all factories restored? maybe they made a garden out of Mariupol? and already roll out the lip to Kherson. Kherson will wait
      1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
        Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 14 March 2022 14: 35
        +1
        Have you dealt with Donetsk and Luhansk regions already? all brains corrected? all factories restored? maybe they made a garden out of Mariupol?

        Do you need everything at once? Only cats will be born quickly

        and already roll out the lip to Kherson. Kherson will have to wait.

        On ... let those Svidomo go who think that the RF Armed Forces will stop in the LPR and DPR
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 14 March 2022 14: 37
          -2
          Podolyaka shared the plans of the General Staff?
          Here is the opinion of a person who understands much more on this issue, but even then does not draw his own conclusions. for general development.

  6. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 14 March 2022 12: 53
    +2
    The only option for the denazification of Ukraine is the deprivation of statehood and the inclusion of the administrative-territorial formations of Ukraine into the Russian Federation as territories, provinces, autonomous regions.
    The preservation of Ukraine's statehood only postpones an even more violent and uncompromising outbreak of Russophobia and nationalism, especially after its admission to the EU and NATO, which Ukraine will achieve someday.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 14 March 2022 13: 13
      -2
      only with a complete ban on Aboriginal voting rights and certain positions. so that not a single primate even rises to the rank of senior janitor. from birth face in shit and so on to the grave.
      1. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
        Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 14 March 2022 13: 58
        +1
        yyyyyyyyy........
        but unfortunately this does not happen, after the stage of destruction of the APU and the capitulation of the regime, their flight or their landing, it will still be necessary to somehow restore the local industry and the entire economy, so that the people worked, ate, drank, etc.
        if there is a competent specialist, but did he work for the previous regime, what, a janitor?
        not Vasil with a shovel to control
        will have to choose and select from those who are, from those who are not stained with blood
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 14 March 2022 14: 01
          -2
          there are "literate" primates who hardly repeat what they learned back in the USSR. there are no specialists. there are liars, opportunists, careerists. these "specialists" for 30 years of their "independence" have not come up with anything of their own ... "planet of the apes" in reality.
          1. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
            Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 14 March 2022 14: 06
            +1
            there are specialists, those who have worked and are working at metallurgical plants and other industrial facilities of Akhmetov, Kolomoisky and other oligarchs, including at Kharkov factories
            themselves, themselves, let them get out themselves
            although I do not exclude that our Russian oligarchs will buy and restore something
            otherwise, let's get gum to supply all the help
            1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
              Just a cat (Bayun) 14 March 2022 14: 11
              -1
              are these specialists who cannot repeat the metalworking technologies of the 30-40s of the last century? The wheels of the railway carts fall off, which led to disasters in Russia. the armor on their "newest" armored personnel carriers cracked ... when detonated, the tanks scatter like plywood. something will be bought and restored within the borders of the Lugansk and Donetsk republics. In other places, Ukrainians will swarm around in their own shit. And this has been repeated over and over again.

              On the morning of March 14, attacks were made on the Antonov plant in Kyiv.

              A fire broke out on the territory of the enterprise, which produces new and maintains military transport aircraft already in service with the Ukrainian Air Force.

              https://rusvesna.su/news/1647242678

              Restoring an aircraft factory is not like opening a shawarma stall.
    2. Lis_Domino Offline Lis_Domino
      Lis_Domino (Sergei) 14 March 2022 14: 14
      +2
      Why does the US need Ukraine in NATO?
      Pros of not taking her there:
      1. The appearance that they "listened to the European partners" and did not put pressure on the adoption of a toxic member
      2. In the event of a war (does Ukraine still need it?) The United States can send mercenaries, express indignation and concern with weapons, impose sanctions BUT! (most importantly!) she is NOT obliged to fight for her!
      3. Since the country is not in NATO and seems to be "not in the European family", then you can be greedy with money, keep starving, push outdated weapons (so as not to throw them away)
      4. For the same reason, you can not pay attention (they are not ours) to the Nazi fascists and their crimes - to distance yourself if you want to look white and fluffy.
      Ukraine is destined for the role of an evil watchdog, half-starved. Which can be fed with promises like "you will become heroes - we will take it to the European Union." and since they have a hard time with memory and understanding, you can promise as much as you like, practically "until the last Ukrainian", so yes - the salvation of the Ukrainian people - to live as part of Russia.
      1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
        Just a cat (Bayun) 14 March 2022 14: 20
        -4
        Ukrainian "people" as part of Russia is the death of the Russian people. memory lost or hope that the inhabitants of Russia have a tight brain? How many Russian deaths are in the hands of only one sagaidach?
        1. Lis_Domino Offline Lis_Domino
          Lis_Domino (Sergei) 14 March 2022 14: 39
          +1
          you need to work with any NON-titular nation and not let everything take its course (as it was done)
          if desired (and foreign partners always have it), you can set any nation against another.
          so.. 1. Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer. (The Art of War - treatise)
          1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
            Just a cat (Bayun) 14 March 2022 14: 46
            -2
            with what nation? in more detail! Sharovarnaya Zaporizhzhya Sich, which did not have its own crafts, is this a nation? Poles will work with Poles, Hungarians with Hungarians, Romanians with Romanians, Russia with Russians. Who else is there in this "nation"? Jews with a synagogue in Dnepropetrovsk? Can Russia work with a non-titular nation in Somalia, and not let everything take its course? Sagaidachnogo USA set on Russia? maybe that shit that jumps on the territory of the ruins and does not need a reason to crap Russia? they've been shitting for centuries.
  7. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
    Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 14 March 2022 14: 46
    0
    Pan Marzhecki, my respect hi
    Totally agree with you.
    Confederation. And only the confederation! (no irony).
  8. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. 14 March 2022 15: 14
    -7
    ... Are we afraid of Ukraine and therefore intend to "cut" it?
    ... The general line: "the subsequent soft division of Ukraine hostile to us" is suicidal, if only because it is impossible to politically split into feudal principalities a single economic complex focused on ... the Russian Federation!
    ... Rather, Ukraine should remain a unitary state, with a pro-Russian buffer enclave of Western Ukraine!
    1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 15 March 2022 00: 41
      +1
      No, there will be no Ukraine like it used to be
  9. Moray Boreas Online Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 14 March 2022 15: 51
    0
    Now "Marzhetsky" wrote nonsense. I feel that he himself doubts his writings ... there will be no division. There will be denazification and demilitarization. If it will be tight with denazification, then we will arrange decommunization and deprivatization with zeroing. There will be military discipline on the territory and those who look bad will be subjected to increased denazification. And so on until the non-humans become human.
    1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 15 March 2022 00: 40
      0
      This process for 20-30 years
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 15 March 2022 07: 05
      0
      Now "Marzhetsky" wrote nonsense. I feel that he himself doubts his writings ...

      Can you substantiate?
  10. Moray Boreas Online Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 14 March 2022 15: 53
    0
    After this special operation of ours, a maximum of 15-17 million people will remain in the former Ukraine.
    1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 15 March 2022 00: 38
      0
      This is normal for a lesson in agriculture
  11. Plumber Sun Offline Plumber Sun
    Plumber Sun (San San) 14 March 2022 19: 37
    +2
    On January 10, 1797, de Ribas, who was granted exclusive powers to develop the Northern Black Sea region by the rescript of Catherine II of May 27, 1794, was removed from his post by Emperor Paul I and recalled to St. Petersburg. The “Expedition for the construction of southern fortresses and the port of Odessa” was disbanded ... Young Odessa turned into a provincial town, which, according to its administrative-territorial status, relied on it. But it was impossible even to assume that Voznesensk, specially founded as the capital of the Novorossiysk Territory, would not take place, that Nikolaev would not become the sea gates of the South of the Russian Empire, and Kherson would not turn into the real capital of the Kherson province. Hardly anyone imagined that Odessa, a town for which no Decree had even issued a name, would combine these three great Beginnings.
  12. Cats Offline Cats
    Cats (Sergei) 14 March 2022 19: 46
    -1
    Western Ukraine will not be allowed to be denazified. When Russian troops approach, NATO will most likely send a "peacekeeping contingent" there, and there will be a "Banderlog Reserve". sad
  13. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 14 March 2022 23: 45
    0
    How can you make clear plans when it is not clear what will happen in a day .... How will the sum of the vectors of forces in each area and the sum of the external forces of Russia, Hungary, Romania, Poland will continue to do so ...
  14. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 15 March 2022 00: 35
    +1
    The most reasonable option, after the end of the special operation. But before that, it is necessary to sift through the "sieve" 90% of the former citizens of the young dead, in order to identify hidden enemies, and there will be plenty of them.
  15. Midshipman Offline Midshipman
    Midshipman (Sergei) 15 March 2022 14: 32
    0
    My thoughts are one to one. The mechanism has been debugged in the LDNR, now it needs to be extended to the entire former Ukraine. And let these people's republics find out among themselves which of them is "bigger than Ukrainians", and we will look at it from the outside. Otherwise, this abscess will mature and break through every 50 years.
  16. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 17 March 2022 10: 30
    -1
    All areas on the coast of the Black and Azov Seas should enter the Russian Federation. A confederation in a few years will turn into a unitary state, as happened with the USSR. This state will inevitably become multi-vector like Kazakhstan. Some of the Nazis will hide, but Russophobia will not disappear.
  17. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 17 March 2022 10: 37
    -1
    The Luhansk and Donetsk republics over the past 8 years have mentally become Russia, and the rest of Ukraine has become Anti-Russia. These republics will prefer to remain independent, but they will no longer enter Ukraine, even a confederate one.