Is it possible to denazify Ukraine without its occupation and change of the Zelensky regime?


A special military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine has been going on for two weeks. The Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard are putting up fierce resistance, however, given the inequality of forces, the end result is a foregone conclusion. The main thing is what will happen after the end of hostilities, and here our own diplomats have given a very serious cause for concern.


First, it is necessary to say a few words about the military component. As we repeatedly warned earlier, the Ukrainian army turned out to be an unusually tough nut to crack, which could not be broken by a series of pinpoint missile strikes on the first day of the special operation. 8 years of training with the help of Western instructors, real combat experience gained in the Donbass, and powerful ideological pumping have done their job. They did not run away at the first shots and did not surrender en masse. On the contrary, a very competent defense was organized, the scripts for which were clearly written by West Point graduates.

Like us and supposed, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard have relied on a semi-guerrilla war. Avoiding confrontation with the Russian army directly, they took refuge in large cities, turned into powerful fortified areas. Using civilians as a "human shield", they strike with cannon artillery and MLRS placed between residential buildings. Mobile armored groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine strike at the rear and at the communications of the Russian military, which are forced to move deeper into hostile territory.

The good thing is that time does not work for our opponent. Stocks of fuel, fuel and lubricants and shells are not endless, age technique either broken or knocked out. In fact, there is a struggle for the depletion of resources, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, blocked in several large urban agglomerations, have no chance. As the RF Armed Forces move further along the Left and Right Banks of Ukraine, taking control of strategically important points and roads, the Armed Forces of Ukraine's ability to resist and actively counter-offensive will rapidly decline. If it does not intervene policy, then the issue of “collapse of boilers” in the Donbass and the Black Sea region and the surrender of Kyiv is a month and a half. With Western Ukraine, which has a common border with NATO countries, the situation is somewhat different, and it will have to be solved by other methods.

Thus, from a purely military point of view, the defeat of the Square is a foregone conclusion. But we did not mention the political factor in vain. Very strange statements are heard from Russian diplomats, obviously not those that our military and militia of Donbass would like to hear, every day losing their friends and comrades in this crusade against Nazism.

On the eve of the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, regarding the goals and objectives of the special operation of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, verbatim stated the following:

Its tasks do not include either the occupation of Ukraine, or the destruction of its statehood, or the overthrow of the current government. It is not directed against civilians.

Regarding the civilian population, yes, but what about the overthrow of the Zelensky regime, the occupation and destruction of Ukrainian statehood? Yes, dear Maria Zakharova repeats the words of President Putin, with which he launched a military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine. With demilitarization, in general, it is understandable. It is enough to enshrine in the Constitution of the Independent the clauses on its non-bloc status, and it is much better to achieve its entry into the Russian military bloc CSTO. Reduce the army by several times to 30-40 thousand people and determine that their area of ​​​​responsibility is to protect not the eastern, but the western border. Introduce restrictions on the size of the military budget of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the development of certain types of weapons. Etc.

Excuse me, but how do you all represent in practice the denazification declared by the Kremlin and the Russian Foreign Ministry without a change in the ruling regime?

Suppose, after the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in mega-cauldrons with the start of the operation to liberate Kyiv, President Zelensky signs a surrender, takes off his hat with a feather in front of his colleague Putin and solemnly declares something along the lines of: sir, you won, here is my sword. Denazification is so denazification, I will start immediately and directly with myself. And all the other Ukrainians immediately drop their guns, begin to weave wreaths on their heads, spin in round dances and rejoice that denazification has come. Say, here, well done Putin, came and enlightened us. It's time to become normal people and start making friends with Russia and Russians. And then everyone is voluntarily denazified. Is that how you imagine it? To be honest, the author of the lines could not imagine more nonsense. It's like Comrade Stalin in May 1945 planned the process of denazification of the Third Reich in cooperation with the legitimate chancellor Adolf Hitler, and Joseph Goebbels was instructed to write the program for the denazification of Germany.

In the conditions of modern Ukraine, denazification “for outsourcing” will look something like this.

Every Ukrainian child who died during the Russian military operation will be written to the Avenue of Angels. The fact that there is such a long time in the Donbass does not bother anyone. Ivan Dorn, Max Barskikh and MONATIK will write and sing together some uplifting song. All Ukrainian soldiers and National Guardsmen who died during the defense of cities from “Russian aggression” will receive the status of national heroes. Memorials and monuments will be erected in each settlement. Above each private house, from the window of each apartment, yellow-blue flags will hang. All fundamentally will speak only Move. And hate. The hatred for Russia will be such that it would be better not to meddle there at all if you are not ready to bring the matter to a concrete result. It is very likely that in response to a special military operation, our country may face such a terrible phenomenon as Ukrainian terrorism. Trained in sabotage work, former APU-shniks and National Guardsmen can arrange a real terrorist hell in Russia. Most likely, a hunt will be launched for Russian officers and servicemen who participated in a special operation.

The matter cannot be left to chance. Denazification is a painful, complex and difficult process, designed for many generations. No one will volunteer for it. It is impossible to entrust it to the legitimate President Zelensky and his government. The entire current regime must be recognized as criminal, removed and prosecuted. This contradicts the statements of Moscow, but in fact it will not be possible to do without the occupation of Nezalezhnaya. Rosy dreams of federalization, peaceful life in the neighborhood and friendly round dances were destroyed when the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard put up stiff resistance. Meet the Russian military there with flowers, everything could have turned out a little differently.

Alas, there was only a hard option. Ukraine can no longer remain a single unitary state, its territory will have to be divided into several independent ones, which we they said previously. Perhaps an intermediate stage will be the confederation of Novorossia, Little Russia and several national Western Ukrainian republics. Recall that, unlike a federation, in a confederation its members have sovereignty and the right to secede from it. With each of these new states, Russia will have to build separate relations and deploy large military contingents on their territory. The denazification of Ukraine should not be done by the Ukrainians themselves, but by a special Supervisory Board, created on a permanent basis from representatives of Russia, Belarus, former Soviet republics, possibly Serbia, and any other countries that wish to participate in this activity.

No outsourcing to "legitimate Ukrainian partners". Only the will of the winner and constant tight control. If you start freaking out now, it will only get worse.
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  1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
    Just a cat (Bayun) 10 March 2022 13: 05
    +2
    Without help with the sowing campaign, there will be such a demilitarization with denazification that under any regime in Kyiv there will be no one to tell about the results.
  2. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 10 March 2022 13: 18
    +5
    That's right, but it will not be Russia that will occupy Ukraine, but the LDNR. And they will carry out denazification. They have enough strength and anger to bring this matter to an end.
    Don't go to a fortune teller, there will be, like in post-war Chechnya, nightly abductions and disappearances of Natsiks and their sing-alongs without a trace, but it doesn't happen otherwise. Either the underdogs go to Poland, or they are finished off.
    A very small number will actually reshape the mind like Kiva, most of the stoned ones will have to disappear without a trace.
  3. Sega19 Offline Sega19
    Sega19 (Sergei) 10 March 2022 13: 19
    +8
    I completely agree with the article, without a change of regime, everything that happens to Ukraine will turn out to be a betrayal of people in Russia, Donbass, sober people in Ukraine, and if the scum is not killed, then the people will curse Putin for having plunged the nation into the abyss and could not succeed .Because peace talks will no longer solve the problems that we got when we started the operation.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 10 March 2022 13: 39
      +4
      The peoples of Russia have much more reason to curse the "brothers" ... for all the attempts, together with the enemies of Russia, to plunge Russia into the abyss ...
  4. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 10 March 2022 13: 20
    +1
    Yes, I forgot about the Chechen battalion. I won't be surprised if, after the current operation, a new region appears in Ukraine, something like the "Ukrainian Chechen Republic".
  5. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 10 March 2022 13: 21
    +3
    How do you all practically represent the denazification declared by the Kremlin and the Russian Foreign Ministry without a change in the ruling regime?

    Maybe a new director comes to the actor Zelensky with a new script and says - Now will you play this part?
  6. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 10 March 2022 13: 42
    +1
    All right
    If we discard all the Kremlin’s previous PR promises about “the Russian spring, the people’s Orthodox republics, Biden is lying about the attack, we won’t divide Ukraine,” then it will probably be so.

    Edro, bear, period.
  7. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 10 March 2022 14: 10
    +6
    only complete disarmament, the destruction of gangs and remnants of resistance to the
    change of political forces and the establishment of a temporary administration, followed by federalization or the establishment of new borders of new independent republics
    and many other activities
    otherwise this walk the field will be the eternal problem of Russia and Belarus
    1. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
      A.Lex 10 March 2022 16: 35
      +1
      And it, this "walk-field" is today (for more than 20 years) a problem.
  8. EVYN WIXH Offline EVYN WIXH
    EVYN WIXH (EVYN WIXH) 10 March 2022 14: 37
    0
    It will not work to change something in the minds of people in a short time, and it is troublesome and expensive to control the entire territory. Someone may be lured by some "goodies", but there will be many ideological obscurantists. It seems to me that the main goal was to discourage even thinking about war by eliminating all real opportunities (military equipment, factories for its manufacture and repair, military infrastructure, etc.), and after that people themselves should think about whether they should again prepare for a campaign against Moscow and a parade on Red Square.
  9. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 10 March 2022 14: 42
    +6
    There have been examples of denazification in history, and the wheel cannot be reinvented. Both in Germany and Japan there were (and still are) occupying troops.

    The denazification of Ukraine should not be done by the Ukrainians themselves, but by special supervisory board, created on a permanent basis from representatives of Russia, Belarus

    and no other "wishing to join".
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 10 March 2022 14: 46
      +2
      there is...nothing heals Ukrainian exceptionalism like cleaning a Polish toilet.
  10. Igor Viktorovich Berdin 10 March 2022 15: 32
    +1
    They immediately said that it was necessary to divide Ukraine into several parts. Give Transcarpathia to Hungary. Sev. Bukovina Ruimynia. Galicia to Poland.
  11. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. 10 March 2022 16: 12
    -3
    ... Call the Zelensky regime ... neo-fascist, and ... denazify Ukraine "under his strict guidance"?
    ... The division of Ukraine into "feudal principalities" is an unpromising occupation; but the fact that M. Zakharova blurted out an unforgivable stupidity is a regrettable fact!
  12. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 10 March 2022 16: 32
    0
    Nobody understands anything: nothing needs to be done, nothing needs to be done. Absolute chaos. This is evident in all performances.
  13. A.Lex Offline A.Lex
    A.Lex 10 March 2022 16: 33
    0
    And again we "judge" the author. laughing The author, there is one more statement of the GDP -

    If the leadership of Ukraine continues to do what they are doing, it will call into question the future of Ukrainian statehood...

    True, he said something similar even before the start of the special operation ... And why Zakharova does not mention this statement is not clear.
    But let's see how it will continue, because the fighting is not visible, yet, no end no edge ...
  14. Sergey Pavlenko Offline Sergey Pavlenko
    Sergey Pavlenko (Sergey Pavlenko) 10 March 2022 16: 57
    0
    For denazification and demilitarization to be more successful, there is no need to feel sorry for anyone. To raze all the boilers to the ground, so that there would be fewer of these heroes who will take revenge until the end of their lives, and they will prepare their offspring morally, by no means in favor of Russia ...
  15. Heroes Heroes Offline Heroes Heroes
    Heroes Heroes (Sergei) 10 March 2022 17: 04
    +1
    No, it's impossible!
  16. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 10 March 2022 17: 28
    -1
    In the post-war period, the redistribution of property is inevitable, naturally in favor of the supporters of the winners.
    This predetermines appropriate agitation and propaganda in the interests of the post-war ruling class, whose interests will be guarded by the entire state apparatus, including law enforcement judicial bodies and the media.
    Therefore, there is no need for occupation. The new owners of the “steamboat newspaper factories” will fight for their property themselves and for the time being be friends with those who have done them good.
  17. goncharov.62 Offline goncharov.62
    goncharov.62 (Andrei) 10 March 2022 18: 03
    +1
    It seems that everything goes exactly to such a scenario. And in general, Russia should not have states with such powerful national-fascist "traditions" at hand! How and what is a separate issue. Otherwise, as the chief of the Gestapo said -

    Where they say "Heil!" and raise their hand in greeting to the leader, there we will begin our revival
  18. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 March 2022 19: 07
    +1
    The author is absolutely right.
    However, the situation has already changed dramatically with the announcement of comprehensive sanctions against us.
    Impromptu of the West? Oh really?
    All the current functionaries of the EU and NATO countries are not subordinate to the States, but, nevertheless, they act in concert directly to the detriment of the interests of their own countries (and possibly their own).
    I am sure that in order to use the levers of pressure and blackmail to gather such an “orchestra” into a single whole before the “concert”, to force them to speak in one voice, the States needed some preparation. Things like this don't happen quickly. It was also necessary to link all the inevitable hemorrhoid economic issues. All this takes time.
    I think that this unanimous response to our operation was prepared by the States in advance, connected with it into a single plan. It was for his sake that it was necessary to “drag” us to Ukraine.
    The essence of this plan is that the provoked Russia, having “easily” decided on the operation, gets bogged down in it, caught by the action of two factors:
    1. The opening of channels prepared in advance for the supply of weapons and militants from the territory of Poland, which should begin the process of Afghanization of Ukraine, i.e. prolongation and deepening of the predicted conflict
    2. A sharp and unexpected change in the financial situation for Russia with the deprivation of its significant share of budget revenues, i.e. transforming the operation from a means of solving a problem into a means of punishing Russia.
    Russia, probably, in the new realities, will not economically be able to afford a long campaign in Ukraine, as well as bringing it to its logical end.
    Russia needed to start with the States as a threat of annihilation, but we were afraid to do it.
    Now, bogged down in Ukraine, we probably won’t dare to get involved in a confrontation with the States until we get out. And our problem is in the States. The mousetrap closed.
    States, NATO and Japan are still at the door
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 11 March 2022 08: 40
      0
      Russia needed to start with the States as a threat of annihilation, but we were afraid to do it.

      If Russia can (with the help of China) prove the anti-human activity of American biological laboratories, then this is already a great success for world forces in the fight against the "gendarme of the planet."
      1. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 March 2022 09: 42
        0
        Until we wrest the world's media out of US hands and take control of it, this is not possible. And we can pull them out only by defeating the United States.
        The situation with Ukraine reminds me of the situation in 2014-2015, when we, instead of bringing the operation in Ukraine to its logical end, but with the risk of further confrontation with the West, "hid" from reality in Syria.
        Now the logic of relations with the United States required bringing confrontation with them to the limit with the threat of nuclear weapons, but we again "hid" - this time in Ukraine.
        Having gone on a deliberately hopeless operation.
        We do not touch the Polish base for the supply of weapons and militants for this reason - contrary to common sense. How are we going to protect ourselves if we are like this?
  19. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 10 March 2022 19: 26
    +1
    However, what is happening can be perceived simply as a "lump of problems" that we allowed to accumulate
  20. Anna Tim Offline Anna Tim
    Anna Tim (Anna) 10 March 2022 21: 28
    +2
    Author, you are absolutely right. The current speeches of Zakharova cause bewilderment and annoyance. Why are our soldiers dying there? To give the country back into the arms of NATO? Why do we need negotiations that are useless and stupid on our part? Maybe we don't understand something? Are they not telling us something? Is there some kind of cunning plan? So far, only disappointment with such our "diplomacy".
  21. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 10 March 2022 21: 33
    +1
    Now the Nazis are freely leaving through humanitarian corridors. In the Russian Federation, these corridors are closed, since the Nazis who committed war crimes have already been digitized and they will die in Kolyma if the law on the death penalty for terrorism is not passed. Bandera's ideology has already taken root in Ukraine for a long time. But there is hope that denazification will be successful in the South-East of Ukraine. Therefore, there can be no talk of a united Ukraine. We can still save Novorossia from the Nazis, but not all of Ukraine. Putin is the ruler of Russia at the level of Peter the Great and Catherine the Great. He has started a fierce battle with the US for Russian sovereignty and will do the right thing.
  22. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 10 March 2022 21: 42
    +1
    The main task now is the destruction of the current pro-American government in Ukraine. The new government in Ukraine should give an order to the Armed Forces of Ukraine to destroy the Nazis. Yanukovych has connections among the generals of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  23. staer-62 Offline staer-62
    staer-62 (Andrei) 10 March 2022 21: 55
    +2
    As long as Ukrainians consider themselves Ukrainians, they will be Nazis in relation to Russians. Let me remind you that forced Ukrainization from Russians to Ukrainians was carried out for more than one hundred years.
    1. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
      Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 11 March 2022 21: 17
      0
      True, but this can only be done by depriving Ukraine of statehood, joining the Russian Federation and carrying out an administrative-territorial reform - to increase the number of subjects of the federation by the number of regions of Ukraine, which does not fit with the goals and objectives of the operation to non-Nazify Ukraine
  24. magdama Offline magdama
    magdama (igor) 16 March 2022 13: 39
    0
    What was it all for then? What about Maria Ivanovna?
  25. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 20 March 2022 02: 54
    0
    Yes, these negotiations are scary. But Russia is obliged to tell the world that it is ready for compromises, for negotiations, that the plans are only those that have been announced. But there is one factor, this is the recognition of Crimea and Donbass, which Kyiv will have to do. And this is just not possible at all. This is a betrayal, for this they will hang on the first pillar. What is it like? We are shouting about victory, the Muscovites have already run out of steam, a little more lads and here on those, we recognize the loss of territories? impossible. No way. But even if the Kiev sluts go to the trick that is already being voiced, that like, let's just quickly agree to the demands, admit this, admit that, but as soon as they leave Ukraine, we will begin to prepare 01.09.1939/XNUMX/XNUMX .. our revenge. And before that, we'll clean out everyone who hasn't got a bender tattoo on their forehead. And it is precisely for this scenario that Russia still has demilitarization and, at worst, denazification. These concepts can be stretched as you like and mean anything by them. Here ukrorezhim will no longer be able to loop. They will tell him to extradite this and that Nazislapka .. right now, they are accused of crimes. And what, the Kyiv regime, which is so afraid of the Ukranazis that it’s not realistic to even talk in the direction of some kind of concessions to them. It is the Nazis who will not allow these agreements to take place. Of course, the ukroregime hopes that the RF Armed Forces will denazify the bulk of the Nazis, so that the ukroregime will no longer be afraid to openly oppose them. Perhaps that is why they threw Mariupol in order to merge the most combat-ready Nazi units and not be afraid of their arrival in Kyiv.

    Maybe that's why Russia does not touch Kyiv now, where there are still a lot of Nazi battalions. They will make the clown go to the end, shouting about Endzig. And this could be the end of the ukroreich, screaming Endzig until the moment when it becomes clear even to the last moron that the defense is over. But at the same time not be able to make concessions.