Ukraine will have to be divided into several independent states


The military operation to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine has been going on for nearly two weeks now. Judging by the fierce resistance that Russian troops are facing, postponing the special operation from 2014 to 2022 was a serious mistake. However, alas, you can’t turn back what has been done and you have to think about what will happen next. Now it would be a colossal mistake to stop halfway and return home without completing the promised denazification. The Rubicon has been crossed, we must go to the end. What are we to do with the surrendered, but still embittered Ukraine?


We must always remember the lessons of history. The German Empire, which lost in the First World War, lost a significant part of its territory, was humiliated and robbed. The thirst for revenge, which was in the hearts of ordinary Germans, created the prerequisites for the coming to power of Adolf Hitler with his Nazi henchmen. How sadly things ended for Germany itself, and not only for her, everyone is well aware. Having lost in World War II, it was divided into the FRG and the GDR, and the German people were forced to go through the process of denazification, the experience of which is now clearly appealed to in Russia. However, everything is not as simple as we would like.

Thanks to the patronage of the United States and its allies, a large number of yesterday's Nazis were able to build an excellent career in the new Federal Republic. With the connivance of Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990, East Berlin and the GDR were annexed to the FRG. No new German state was created on an equal footing. Strengthened Germany has become a locomotive economics Western Europe, and then the entire European Union. Alarm bells sounded in 2014, when Berlin effectively assumed the role of patron of the neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv. Immediately after the start of the Russian military operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, the new Chancellor Olaf Scholz said that now Germany finally got rid of the feeling of historical guilt towards Russia. And immediately announced a doubling of military spending to 100 billion euros.

Everything returns to normal. Exactly the same processes, only more frankly, are taking place in actively militarizing Japan, which has long been "grinding its teeth" on our Kuril Islands. And how can we take into account this sad historical experience in Ukraine?

At first, anyone involved in Nazi activities should not be allowed to have further access to government, education or culture. A stop list with specific names and surnames is required, which is mandatory for use. Lustration should work in the opposite direction. And no new amnesty for the “neo-Banderites”, as N.S. once did. Khrushchev with real Bandera!

SecondlyUkraine, judging by the state of mind of its population, can no longer be allowed to remain a single state. Alas, even federalization, which was a good decision in 2014, will not help. The burning hatred and thirst for revenge from the Ukrainians will come back to haunt us all. We will have to apply the rather cynical, but practical principle of "divide and conquer" (divide et impera).

Instead of a single federal state of Ukraine, it is more expedient to create several small federal states and build relations with each separately, playing on their objective contradictions. The contours of the division suggest themselves: a federal New Russia, which will include Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye, Kherson, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev and Odessa People's Republics with the capital in Kharkov; Federative Little Russia with its capital in Kyiv, which is the real Ukrainian “Heartland”; as well as several small national republics on the territory of Western Ukraine.

Why is this needed? Then, in order to break the internal unity of today's unitary Ukraine and create basic contradictions between the new state formations, on which Moscow can play. After that, it will definitely be possible to forget about some kind of consolidated “response to Muscovites”. They will sharpen their teeth already at each other, since the sworn neighbor is closer than the distant Kremlin. Russia will have to build relations with each of these states separately, accepting first Novorossia, and then Little Russia into the Eurasian Economic Union, the CSTO, and then into the Union State. It will not work in a crowd, too much water has flowed under the bridge.

Thirdly, despite the promises of President Putin, Russia will still have to occupy these territories, but do it wisely. Instead of full-fledged armies, New Russia and Little Russia will be allowed to have purely symbolic Self-Defense Forces, and the Western Ukrainian republics - only the people's militia. Moscow and Minsk within the framework of the Union State should become guarantors of their security. According to the agreement on mutual assistance and military-technical cooperation, Russian troops will have to be deployed on the territory of Novorossia, and in Little Russia, for example, Belarusian troops. Why not? Belarus did not participate in the armed conflict, so far there are no special claims against it. Also, Russian military bases will have to be located in Transcarpathia and near Lviv on an indefinite basis. For prevention.

And, of course, complete and unconditional denazification in the system of education, culture, cinema, over the next 2-3 generations of Ukrainians. Otherwise, everything will repeat again.
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  1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
    Just a cat (Bayun) 8 March 2022 15: 26
    +3
    Already progress ... only there will be more parts than in the picture. Hungary, Romania, Poland will not leave their population alone with the "brotherly" Ukrainian people.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 15: 37
      +4
      Who will give them? Our army is not fighting for that, in order to give blood taken.
      1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
        Just a cat (Bayun) 8 March 2022 15: 43
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        Is our army fighting in order to get stabbed in the back in a few years? Did the Russian army take Finland, Alaska, part of California? And the so-called refugees Europe and Canada accept TEMPORARY. they will then kick them out. Do you really want a repetition of the massacre arranged by Ukrainians Rusyns?
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 15: 46
          -1
          I don't understand what you are writing about. What massacre? Who will allow? All territories should be under the control of the Russian army. In any case, the first years.
          And in Lvov Rus (the author is joking, I will support) our missiles aimed at Poland should stand.
          1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
            Just a cat (Bayun) 8 March 2022 15: 53
            -1
            Why should Russia protect Poles, Hungarians, Romanians from Ukrainians? Hungarians will not give up their Hungarian passports and speak Russian, and Ukrainians will not love Russia. how, after 1945, to place Russian troops throughout the pigsty and send doctors and teachers there and get them back in coffins? I'm against. The West will go to Europe, the East to Russia, and in the center a reservation for savages.
            1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 15: 55
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              I'm against. The West will go to Europe, the East to Russia, and in the center a reservation for savages.

              For God's sake. You have your picture, I have mine. Time will tell who was right. There is very little time left to wait.
        2. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
          Krapilin (Victor) 8 March 2022 16: 53
          +2
          The Russian army "did not take" either Alaska or California. There, instead of the Russian army, there were Russian merchants ...
  2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 15: 26
    +1
    I agree with the section. But all the same, LDNR should enter the Russian Federation.
    They wanted it and fully deserved it. And Russia will help them restore the economy.
    And Uzhgorod must still enter Little Russia.
    The Ternopil region (except for the northern regions - within historical boundaries) for the sake of justice should remain within the boundaries of Galicia, which the author for some reason called Ukraine. It's probably a political joke of humor.
  3. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 15: 49
    +1
    Quote: Just Cat
    Alaska, part of California did not the Russian army take?

    No, I didn't.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 8 March 2022 15: 57
      -3
      I took it. there was such Fort Ross. especially stupid Indians from there were sent to Alaska.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 16: 02
        +1
        there was such Fort Ross.

        This is not serious. Alaska has been sold. There were also Russian colonies in Hawaii.
        And in Poland and the rest of Europe, a lot of Russian blood has been shed. But that is a thing of bygone years.

        On the territory of the former Ukraine now our blood is shed. Sanctions are being imposed on us. That's why you need to take the maximum. For the shed blood to be justified.
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 8 March 2022 16: 11
          -2
          Shedding Russian blood in order for the pot-headed, garniferous drinkers to get gorged and betray again? Is that how she should be justified? Trample them into the 19th century at least, deprive them of production, the army, Ukrainian "culture" and let them evolve outside of Russia. it's time to leave the "common history" with the Ukrainians in the past, because this is the history of betrayal and spilled Russian blood. enough. No other country has had so many problems with Russia as with Ukrainians.
          1. Yuriy88 Offline Yuriy88
            Yuriy88 (Yuri) 8 March 2022 20: 10
            -1
            right! But to accept LDNR as part of Russia, definitely! Warm up the rest of "Novorossia" in some kind of union! And with the "others" the big question is what to do! no army, only police and complete neutrality ..
        2. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
          Krapilin (Victor) 8 March 2022 22: 33
          0
          About Alaska here:

          https://ruinformer.com/page/opredelili-porog-ne-menee-5-millionov-dollarov-zolotom-storgovalis-na-72-millionah
      2. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
        Krapilin (Victor) 8 March 2022 16: 55
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        The concept of especially "stupid Indians" is from the lexicon of the Anglo-Saxon colonialists who staged a genocide of the local population in North America ...
  4. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 8 March 2022 15: 51
    +2
    A little off topic.

    the new chancellor, Olaf Scholz, said that now Germany finally got rid of the feeling of historical guilt towards Russia.

    I wonder where the grandfather's grave is?

    Friedrich von Scholz (German Fritz von Scholz; full name: Friedrich Karl Max Scholz, Edler von Raranze (Friedrich Max Karl Scholz Edler von Rarancze); December 9, 1896 - July 28, 1944) - Austro-Hungarian, Austrian, then German officer, participant in the First and Second World Wars, Gruppenführer and Lieutenant General of the SS troops, holder of the Knight's Cross with oak leaves and swords.

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Шольц,_Фриц_фон

    German Chancellor Olaf Scholz spoke about his family's long-standing connection with Ukraine. Scholz's grandfather lived in Rivne for a whole year, and then for a long time he remembered the taste of Ukrainian products.

    “Grandfather said that he went to Ukraine with enthusiasm. Visited Ternopil, Kyiv, Lemberg, Rovno and other cities. He only regretted that he did not reach the Crimea. Every time he was struck Ukrainian hospitality and what products are there. Peasants on demand they brought him chickens, milk, eggs, as well as lard, sour cream, dumplings and borscht. In Germany at that time it was hungry, and in Ukraine it was possible to eat from the heart, and shoot, and have fun. Later, even after his release from prison, he remembered the taste of Ukrainian dumplings with sour cream for a long time, ”said Scholz.

    https://panorama.pub/news/olaf-sholcz-ded-rasskazyval-kakie-vkusnye-na-ukraine-kury-moloko-i-yajcza
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 8 March 2022 16: 15
      +4
      After the grandfathers of all the Scholians went beyond the borders of Ukraine, they stopped calling Russians pigs and began to revise the list of Aryan nations. Near Moscow and Stalingrad they were not fed dumplings ...
    2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 16: 22
      0
      in Ukraine it was possible to eat from the heart, and shoot, and have fun.

      No wonder after the war for many years in the questionnaires there was a question about staying in the occupied territories.
    3. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
      Kristallovich (Ruslan) 8 March 2022 17: 44
      +1
      Didn't expect from you, Bakhtiyar. To quote a satirical publication, passing off the published article as the truth... I hope this is a banal inattention.

      Further. Fritz von Scholz has nothing to do with Olaf Scholz. These are cousins.
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 8 March 2022 19: 46
        0
        I hesitated for a long time whether to bring it or not. There are some inconsistencies. But then I decided to print it anyway.
        Basically, this post was about the fact that, according to Scholz, "Germany got rid of historical guilt." This is not true. It is not Germany, but Russia, that should forgive and, therefore, deliver from historical guilt.

        So, inconsistencies. Scholz was born in 1958. So grandfather personally could not tell him anything. General Scholz could not be held captive.
        But as for the "satirical edition", I would not be in a hurry. I found this at Prigogine's. He did not give a link to Prigogine. I started checking for fakes. The biography of the Chancellor begins in 1958. Parents are simple workers from Hamburg. But SS Lieutenant General Stolz comes from Pilsen. That is from Czechoslovakia. In 1946 there was a mass expulsion of Germans from Czechoslovakia (the famous scandalous order of Beneš). The entire Scholz family (both parents and brothers) has always categorically refused to talk about their past. In any case, the fakeness of this statement could not be confirmed. However, so is credibility.

        Perhaps they are cousins. I won't argue. The main purpose of my post was that the Germans decided to get rid of their Nazi past. I was in Germany relatively recently. Among young people there is a pronounced desire to forget the past. One of the young people collected data on the dead (innocently) on the Steuben liner. His grandfather served there as a boatswain. Together with him we visited the maritime museum in Kiel. It's almost like a ritual for him.
        1. Kristallovich Offline Kristallovich
          Kristallovich (Ruslan) 8 March 2022 19: 55
          +1
          I found this at Prigogine's. He did not give a link to Prigogine.

          And you compare the publication dates on the satirical Panorama and those of Prigogine.
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 8 March 2022 20: 03
            0
            Right. Didn't pay attention to the dates.
  5. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. 8 March 2022 16: 06
    -2
    ...Let's not share the skin of an unkilled bear.
    ... Isn't the West guaranteed to be able to trick Ukraine into the Russian Federation in parts?
    ... And the division of Germany itself did not lead to civil strife, but to the unification and growth of its economic power.
    ...It is on the latter - accelerated economic development - that Russia should direct its efforts.
    ...Then for Ukraine, it will not turn into an enemy, but a preferred ally!
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 16: 19
      -4
      There is no point in answering you.
      You don’t know history, you don’t understand logic, you comment without understanding what others have written.
      1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
        Mikhail L. 8 March 2022 16: 24
        -1
        ...Respond?
        ...I didn't contact you.
        ...Couldn't pass by without getting nasty with unfounded accusations?
        ...So my comment on the case.
        ...Thanks for the perverted compliment!
    2. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 8 March 2022 16: 21
      -2
      for a Ukrainian, the best neighbor is the one who feeds the most satisfying ... this is not news. but the crest under the door will still leave a bunch of shit.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 16: 26
        0
        You have some kind of painful hatred for the inhabitants of the former Ukraine. Is it something personal or do you just like to carry all the dirt?
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        2. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 8 March 2022 16: 32
          -2
          Past. I just know them well. both personally and historically. Judging by your desire to shove Ukrainians into Russia, you have some kind of painful hatred for the inhabitants of Russia. Is it something personal?
          1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 16: 33
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            I wrote about the entry of the LDNR into the Russian Federation. Are you against? If yes, why?
            As for a good knowledge of history - very doubtful.
            1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 16: 37
              -2
              Communication with people from Lviv and from Kharkov causes a completely different reaction in me. Kharkiv residents are ours, Lviv residents are strangers, Kievans are neutral.
              1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
                Just a cat (Bayun) 8 March 2022 16: 42
                -1
                I have residents of Mariupol at work ... they are clearly not Russian. topic closed.
            2. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
              Just a cat (Bayun) 8 March 2022 16: 43
              -1
              As for a good knowledge of history - very doubtful.

              I recommend studying the topic of the Haidamaks massacre ...
  6. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 8 March 2022 16: 25
    -3
    We don’t need foreign states on Russian soil, it needs to be returned under the Russian flag, and let them build Ukraine in Galicia. Moreover, it is very doubtful that this audience will get along with the Poles, they have already turned Moldova against themselves, with their defiant behavior
  7. Avarron Online Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 8 March 2022 16: 45
    0
    As I said, this case will not end in Ukraine. As long as Europe is ruled by the United States, freely located in the safety of the ocean, Russia and Europe will not have a quiet life, the States will always goad us against each other and put sticks in the wheels. At least until Europe is a fat piece from which you can have your own gesheft.
    Denazify Ukraine, pndos nazify Finland or anyone else. Not only is a holy place never empty, a place is cursed too.
    World War is inevitable, unfortunately, and its skirmisher feels quite comfortable.
    Therefore, for Russia, personally, I see two options - to chop up Europe for a long time and bloody and eventually hit with a nuclear baton, or immediately stagger the hegemon with a nuclear baton.
    The punks sharply lose their enthusiasm when the leader flew off his hooves.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 16: 54
      -1
      Quote: Avarron
      personally, I see two options - to chop up Europe for a long time and bloody and, as a result, to hit with a nuclear baton, or immediately stagger the hegemon with a nuclear baton.

      I see another option. Partition of Ukraine and then a gradual divorce from Europe. With the assistance of businessmen, one can quite culturally disperse. We are not on our way with them. And they have short arms to hurt us a lot.

      nazify Finland or anyone else

      This takes years. Europe does not have them.

      World War is inevitable

      In this I agree with you. But I think that time is on our side. Therefore, delaying the start of a nuclear war for 5-6 years will save more of the population of Russia than if the war starts now.
      1. Avarron Online Avarron
        Avarron (Sergei) 8 March 2022 17: 10
        -2
        About "assistance of businessmen" it is strongly told. You can count on their assistance exactly as long as there are sanctions against Russia that limit the access of Russian money to foreign markets. As soon as the restrictions are lifted, capital from Russia will fly away at an extraordinary speed.
        The US needs a huge war on the Eurasian continent, and as long as Europe is under their influence, the threat will always remain here.
        I see no point in dividing Ukraine, it will complicate management and make it easier for the underdogs to flow from the territory where they are being clamped down to the territory where they are given freemen.
        This will constantly generate clashes in which the innocent will die.
        Denazification should take place throughout the BU in the same way. And in the future, the borders of Ukraine should be protected equally effectively, so that no scum comes from Europe.
        Time does not work for us. Putin is not eternal, as is our temporary advantage in armaments. In electronics, they have already galloped ahead a lot, and sanctions will increase the gap over time, and then we will have an ambets.
        It is possible to solve the problem only now, I think. The West does not have the USSR, behind which it hid in the Second World War, they themselves will not be able to fight for a long time, as history has shown.
        And the fifth column in the form of Arabs and Negroes in Europe cannot be discounted, they will not fight for Europe, but they can organize themselves into gangs and give rise to a wave of crime.
  8. opportunist Offline opportunist
    opportunist (dim) 8 March 2022 17: 13
    -4
    this military intervention had rather the features of overthrowing the Zeselensky government and initially without creating Novorossia, for this, the entire center of gravity was thrown to Kiev. Now we can say with confidence that this military intervention was not successful, those who thought that the American serfs of the Kiev junta so easily surrender. NATO has already delivered 30 anti-tank missiles to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. If we go to take Kyiv, we'll drown.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 17: 20
      0
      NATO has already delivered 30 anti-tank missiles to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

      And what if they put another 100 thousand anti-tank missiles, but they probably push the RF Armed Forces to the borders of the Urals?
      1. opportunist Offline opportunist
        opportunist (dim) 8 March 2022 17: 49
        -2
        I don't think you understand what's going on here. Western Ukraine is lost forever. Even if the Russian army gains control of all of western Ukraine, how can you integrate and assimilate a hostile population? Instead of focusing now on how to overthrow the puppet the Zelensky government, sending large forces to the Kyiv front, why not take over Novorossiya. Close their access to the Azov and Black Seas and the job is done
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 18: 01
          -1
          how can you integrate and assimilate a hostile population?

          And who told you that the plans include integration and assimilation?
          On the territory of Lviv Rus, military bases will be deployed and missiles aimed at Poland will be installed. The population will pay a tax for the restoration of Donbass.
          Whoever is against Russian rule will move either to the grave or to the mines of Siberia.
  9. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 8 March 2022 17: 17
    -2
    "The age-old dream of the peoples" (of free Poland) will come true - that's what they said in the USSR - I remember from the radio broadcasts of the latest news from the loudspeaker. Lemberg will return to its shore, and the dream of the Poles, who have documents for property taken away by the Soviets in 1939, will come true, under the restitution law, more than 700 thousand offended and offended will come true. Of course, (together with houses, land, farms and factories) slaves ready to work in an enlightened European Union. Only the stupid did not understand why the Poles so passionately dragged their sworn enemy, Ukraine, into the EU. Pull, shackle and strangle.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 17: 22
      -1
      The age-old dream of the peoples of free Poland will come true

      No, it won't come true. We'll have to wait another eighty years. And if they return their lands to Germany, then maybe Galicia will break off them.
  10. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 8 March 2022 17: 25
    -1
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    "The age-old dream of the peoples of free Poland will come true"

    No, it won't come true. We'll have to wait another eighty years. And if they return their lands to Germany, then maybe Galicia will break off them.

    Poland needs to hurry. For there will be no other opportunity for them. And Germany has nowhere to hurry. She already owns half of Europe, keeping everyone on a golden hook, like the United States itself. You need to understand that in this case, Poland will have to deal with Russia, and Germany with Poland. The weight of the opponents is quite different.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 8 March 2022 17: 37
      -1
      Poland needs to hurry.

      Before, you had to hurry. Now it's too late. If he sticks himself on the territory of the former Ukraine, he may find himself without part of his territory. We will not interfere with the passage to Kaliningrad.

      NATO does not want a war with Russia, and therefore the Poles can only poke their nose at their own peril and risk. Without NATO support. And then quickly get in the teeth. Russia and Belarus will gladly master the road from Belarus to Kaliningrad.
  11. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 8 March 2022 18: 18
    0
    Any even a small fascist state next to Russia is a guarantee of new problems for our descendants, or for ourselves ...
  12. Plumber Sun Offline Plumber Sun
    Plumber Sun (San San) 8 March 2022 18: 32
    0
    Odessa cannot but be at least an enclave of Great Russia! Now no one remembers that all the heroes of the Russian-Turkish wars dreamed of being buried in Odessa. Many (!) great figures of the Russian Empire are buried in Odessa. The great Pushkin lived and worked in Odessa! In Odessa, the brother of Alexander Sergeevich, Lev Sergeevich, was buried. An associate of the great Russian general Skobelev, General Radetsky, was buried in Odessa; buried Langeron, Vorontsov. The great Russian doctor Filatov and the organizer and head of the first Ambulance Station in Russia, Dr. Bardakh, are buried in Odessa! And many, many great Russian military, political and cultural figures of the Russian Empire of different times!
  13. wolf46 Offline wolf46
    wolf46 8 March 2022 19: 12
    0
    Without a doubt, the DPR and LPR are new subjects of the Russian Federation without regard to the rest of the South-East of Ukraine.

    Russia will have to build relations with each of these states separately, accepting first Novorossia, and then Little Russia into the Eurasian Economic Union, the CSTO, and then into the Union State.

    SG is the USSR 2.0 with the risk of subsequent collapse, and the EAEU, the CSTO are not viable.
    Passivity of Russia in 2014-15 was perceived by the local Russians as a betrayal, and for the future division of Ukraine and the preservation of the remaining loyalty of the local population, Novorossia must first be liberated, taking into account the experience of the blockade of Kyiv and Kharkov.
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  15. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 8 March 2022 19: 57
    -6
    Ukraine today = minus Crimea, DPR and LPR.
    The announced goal of the war is not the seizure of territory, but the denazification of Ukraine.
    Nazification is the stronger, the farther to the west, and its hornet's nest is Galicia.
    In this regard, the integrity of Ukraine will depend on the task assigned to the troops to move to the west.
    If they go to Galicia, which is doubtful, then Ukraine will remain within its existing borders minus the DPR-LPR.
    If they don’t go to Galicia, then with a high degree of probability several new state formations will arise on the territory of Ukraine - Galicia, Little Russia, Novorossia, and some administrative regions may make a request to join the Russian Federation.
  16. silinigo_2 Offline silinigo_2
    silinigo_2 (Igor Silin) 8 March 2022 21: 53
    -2
    The Soviet Union collected territories .. And who gave the right to divide the country? These "specific principalities" are Ukraine, Kazakhstan .. and others .. Territorial formations? Only a single PEOPLE can do something.
  17. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 8 March 2022 22: 24
    -7
    Well, even if the author does not value the President's promises - not to divide and not to occupy - then things have gone well.
  18. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 8 March 2022 22: 27
    +2
    Purely theoretical. I don't claim to be authentic. But I compared two pictures today




    It seems to me, or is Russia creating Novorossiya? Are operations in the Kyiv region needed to create and control the government of Little Russia?
  19. Art Pilot Offline Art Pilot
    Art Pilot (pilot) 8 March 2022 22: 44
    -1
    LPR and DPR - into Russia immediately, through a referendum. Enough, have been patient.
    The remaining regions become separate states under the protectorate of Russia and with Russian military bases. They carry out strict denazification (it will take 20 years). As they are cleansed, they become part of Russia.
    The yellow-blue flag, the anthem and the trident are banned, like Nazi symbols.
  20. NNikolaich Offline NNikolaich
    NNikolaich (NNikolaich) 8 March 2022 23: 14
    -2
    This is all understandable, at the expense of "taking", "ruling" ... But is it also up to us to restore, feed, pay debts for them?
    1. av58 Offline av58
      av58 (Andrei) 9 March 2022 02: 49
      -1
      Let the prisoners from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions work, and those undergoing denazification.
  21. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 8 March 2022 23: 19
    0
    Only the division of Ukraine can solve the problem of Ukraine-Anti-Russia. However, this section should be held with jeweler's precision. Over the past 8 years, Ukraine has become Anti-Russia, and this process has partially affected South-Eastern Ukraine as well. But Donbass became Russia. Russia needs the coast of the Black and Azov seas. Therefore, the DPR and Mariupol will inevitably go to Russia, and along with the LPR. The Odessa region must necessarily become part of Russia, because its strategic importance is akin to the Crimea. The Kherson region should also become part of the Russian Federation, because the multi-vector Novorossiya, under the influence of Western partners, will blackmail Crimea, as Ukraine is doing now. Ideally, the coast of the Black and Azov Seas should become part of the Russian Federation. Already now it is necessary to protect the Transcarpathian region, inhabited by Rusyn brothers. To do this, you need to break through the corridor from Transcarpathia to New Russia. The Dnipropetrovsk region can be made a Jewish Autonomous region within the Russian Federation or Novorossiya.
  22. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 March 2022 00: 19
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    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    Poland needs to hurry.

    Before, you had to hurry. Now it's too late. If he sticks himself on the territory of the former Ukraine, he may find himself without part of his territory. We will not interfere with the passage to Kaliningrad.

    NATO does not want a war with Russia, and therefore the Poles can only poke their nose at their own peril and risk. Without NATO support. And then quickly get in the teeth. Russia and Belarus will gladly master the road from Belarus to Kaliningrad.

    You are wrong. MOST time. Remember, 1918-1920. Intervention? Do you know why they brought in their troops, a political justification, of course? They "defended" their Entente ally, Russia, from German aggression. This is the path our neighbors will follow. They will, of course. And, in this matter, they will be our allies, being in a hostile relationship. Have you seen a pack of wolves tearing up an elk? Together, but they won't give each other a treat. Let's break what used to be...
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 March 2022 03: 18
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      You are wrong. MOST time.

      There are desires and there are opportunities.
      Just Poland has no opportunities to occupy Galicia.
      To do this, you need to prepare an army that could successfully fight the Russian and Belarusian troops. It cannot be done quickly. That is, an attempt can only be adventurous, which means it is almost certainly doomed to failure.
  23. Old warrant officer (Zahar) 9 March 2022 00: 33
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    I strongly disagree about the capital - Kharkov! The capital of New Russia should be in Donetsk!
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 March 2022 10: 21
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      LDNR will become part of the Russian Federation. Therefore Kharkov is possible. Although the question of the capital is not fundamental for me.
  24. Instead of a single federal state of Ukraine, it is more expedient to create several small federal states and build relations with each separately, playing on their objective contradictions.

    While playing other states is better for the States - look how the European Union undresses itself. I think it is necessary to take in bulk, the whole country. The state of Ukraine should not exist. It can only exist as Anti-Russia.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 March 2022 10: 22
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      I think it is necessary to take in bulk, the whole country. The state of Ukraine should not exist.

      I agree about the state. But taking them all is overkill. Let them restore the economy on their own.
  25. Krilion Offline Krilion
    Krilion (Krilion) 9 March 2022 02: 13
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    Everything is written correctly and to the point .. however, there is one big, I would even say a HUGE problem ... in order to control such a vast territory, Russia will be forced to move almost all available armed forces there .. and even then ... will they be enough. ..
  26. av58 Offline av58
    av58 (Andrei) 9 March 2022 02: 44
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    In general, "yes", but with amendments: 1) Chernigov and Sumy should return to Russia, as they were torn away from the Moscow principality as a result of an unsuccessful war with Poland. 2) We bought Kyiv from the Poles in 1686, it is ours by right of the buyer, the documents are in the archive of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation. 3) It is impossible to be limited to the Nikolaev region, it is necessary to include in Russia the southern part of the Vinnitsa region, Chernivtsi, and Transcarpathia, where Rusyns and Hungarians live. Then the Nazi part of Ukraine will be reliably neutralized. In the territories that have gone to Russia, it will be possible to carry out denazification in the toughest version.
  27. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 9 March 2022 06: 02
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    Right. But in Little Russia there should be either Russian troops or the CSTO.
  28. Yuri Bryanskiy Offline Yuri Bryanskiy
    Yuri Bryanskiy (Yuri Bryansky) 9 March 2022 07: 13
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    LDNR separately. Divide into: Slobozhanshchina (center - Kharkiv + Poltava, Sumy, Chernihiv). Novorossia (center - Yekaterinoslav), Little Russia (Kyiv, Zhitomir, Vinnitsa, Cherkasy, Khmelnitsky), Volyn (Rivne and Lutsk), Carpathian region (Lviv, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk), 2 special territories - Transcarpathian Rus and Bukovina. The main thing is that people feel the improvement of life.
  29. FGJCNJK Offline FGJCNJK
    FGJCNJK (Nikolai) 9 March 2022 09: 08
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    If it is like in the picture, then at least in 3 years Russia will again receive from Ukraine or that red that new problems will remain from it. Which will be an order of magnitude larger than the current ones.
  30. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 March 2022 10: 05
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    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    You are wrong. MOST time.

    There are desires and there are opportunities.
    Just Poland has no opportunities to occupy Galicia.
    To do this, you need to prepare an army that could successfully fight the Russian and Belarusian troops. It cannot be done quickly. That is, an attempt can only be adventurous, which means it is almost certainly doomed to failure.

    With the available forces, you can enter and stay WITHOUT FIGHT. This Bukovina and Transcarpathia did not give up to Belarusians. They are quite satisfied with what they have. Let's talk to them carefully.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 March 2022 10: 25
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      With the available forces, you can enter and stay WITHOUT FIGHT.

      How do you imagine that? Polish troops enter, and Kiev leave? Have you already agreed?
      And what can you say about the available forces of Poland? This is how many tanks, planes, people?
  31. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 March 2022 10: 10
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    Quote: Plumber-Sun
    Odessa cannot but be at least an enclave of Great Russia! Now no one remembers that all the heroes of the Russian-Turkish wars dreamed of being buried in Odessa. Many (!) great figures of the Russian Empire are buried in Odessa. The great Pushkin lived and worked in Odessa! In Odessa, the brother of Alexander Sergeevich, Lev Sergeevich, was buried. An associate of the great Russian general Skobelev, General Radetsky, was buried in Odessa; buried Langeron, Vorontsov. The great Russian doctor Filatov and the organizer and head of the first Ambulance Station in Russia, Dr. Bardakh, are buried in Odessa! And many, many great Russian military, political and cultural figures of the Russian Empire of different times!

    The coast of the seas, of course, will unite with Russia. Transnistria, and the absence of anyone's bases in our sector of the Black Sea is the goal. Continental Malorosiya, Novorossiya, friendly, that's the only way. And let the blood brothers deal with the western part - Poles hyenas and Western jackals. Let them understand, Bandera is a hero or a criminal. And let Poland, strengthened by growth, deal with Germany - which of them is the main one in NATO and the EU.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 March 2022 10: 31
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      And let Poland, strengthened by growth, deal with Germany - which of them is the main one in NATO and the EU.

      Are you sure that Poland will deal with Germany? Did the Poles give you a blood oath?
      It is naive to give Poland territory and people, dreaming that it will forget about the remaining territory of the former Ukraine.
      It is easier to occupy this territory by ourselves. Carry out a complete denazification there. Have military bases and install missiles to send to Poland. If the Poles invade this territory, then it is possible to fight in Galicia. The locals will love it.
  32. radvas Offline radvas
    radvas (Igor) 9 March 2022 11: 13
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    It's all well written. But ... they will scream: "Well, the chief said, there will be no occupation! How can one people, kindred, be divided?" well, in this spirit. The GDP will immediately have advisers, and it is not a fact that he will not listen to them. So none of this will happen. And our descendants will again have to rake the eternal cunning, greed and betrayal of the "Svidomo". Alas...
  33. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 March 2022 12: 50
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    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    And let Poland, strengthened by growth, deal with Germany - which of them is the main one in NATO and the EU.

    Are you sure that Poland will deal with Germany? Did the Poles give you a blood oath?
    It is naive to give Poland territory and people, dreaming that it will forget about the remaining territory of the former Ukraine.
    It is easier to occupy this territory by ourselves. Carry out a complete denazification there. Have military bases and install missiles to send to Poland. If the Poles invade this territory, then it is possible to fight in Galicia. The locals will love it.

    I consider it a great stupidity to occupy the Western regions AFTER THE WAR. BEFORE the war, this is understandable, the desire to push away. But AFTER - fighting until the age of 60, leaving this infection without destroying it, all the more - rehabilitating and releasing obvious enemies ... How do you like it? I know. Since I spent the first days and months of my life in Lvov. It so happened that in 1946 the parents (they were still not acquainted) were sent separately in XNUMX to restore the economy. They met there, and as soon as they were allowed to leave, they immediately left for their native Siberia. giving birth to me there. Contacts remained, and we were aware of those cases. In addition to the newspapers and magazines of the time. Working as the head of the Babsky technical department at the plant, I realized a simple thing. In order to destroy the sneaky women's groups and the eternal smoldering scandals and squabbles between them, you need to unite your friends in one group, obliging them to do one thing in parallel. Well, there is, after all, a specialization in engineering work. And making one older. Everything. The group ceases to exist in a week. Here and here. To split this apparent unity against Russia, you need to allow them to eat each other, being in close proximity. Believe me, they would have such graters that they would forget about the existence of Russia. Poland is Germany's only competitor in the EU. Trust me. Look at the situation there. The Poles simply dream of starting to play the most important role there. And we need to give them an incentive to activate.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 March 2022 13: 04
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      I consider it a great stupidity to occupy the Western regions AFTER THE WAR. BEFORE the war, this is understandable, the desire to push away.

      Do you think the territory of the former Ukraine will end? The enemy is just moving away from the borders of Russia.
  34. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 March 2022 13: 12
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    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    With the available forces, you can enter and stay WITHOUT FIGHT.

    How do you imagine that? Polish troops enter, and Kiev leave? Have you already agreed?
    And what can you say about the available forces of Poland? This is how many tanks, planes, people?

    How did the Entente troops enter the warring Russia in 1918-1919? Protecting your ally from the invading German troops? And helping to restore legitimate power? We called it an intervention. In the same way, the Poles will defend from us the western regions that have always belonged to them. What is not clear here?
  35. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 March 2022 13: 19
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    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    I consider it a great stupidity to occupy the Western regions AFTER THE WAR. BEFORE the war, this is understandable, the desire to push away.

    Do you think the territory of the former Ukraine will end? The enemy is just moving away from the borders of Russia.

    There is a rule in diplomacy. Make friends THROUGH THE NEIGHBOR. Therefore, we need more good connections with Germany, then the neighbor between us will be silk. Don't you see. how we build these ties, primarily with Germany. Not everything works out, it’s understandable, but the vector is visible even to a non-specialist.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 9 March 2022 13: 27
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      And how does control over Galicia prevent you from making friends through a neighbor?
      Between the Russian protectorate and Germany is Poland. What's wrong?
  36. Carmela Offline Carmela
    Carmela (Carmela) 9 March 2022 13: 59
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    Maybe first in our country we need to start educating the younger generation ourselves, and not leave it as before to the discretion of our sworn friends and partners?
  37. VID 2 Offline VID 2
    VID 2 9 March 2022 14: 55
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    Theoretically, this can be done, but in practice it is difficult. Do you think how many of our guys will die?
  38. assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
    assault 2019 (assault 2019) 9 March 2022 16: 48
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    First, anyone involved in Nazi activities should not be allowed to have further access to government, education or culture. A stop list with specific names and surnames is required, which is mandatory for use. Lustration should work in the opposite direction. And no new amnesty for the "neo-Banderites"

    Secondly, instead of a single federal state of Ukraine, it is more expedient to create several small federal states and build relations with each separately, playing on their objective contradictions.

    Thirdly, instead of full-fledged armies, New Russia and Little Russia will be allowed to have purely symbolic Self-Defense Forces, and the Western Ukrainian republics - only the people's militia. Moscow and Minsk should become guarantors of their security within the framework of the Union State

    Here are three mandatory steps that Russia must take regarding Ukraine in order to pull it out of the tenacious claws of the Nazis and return it to the united Russian WORLD.
  39. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 March 2022 20: 32
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    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    I don't understand what you are writing about. What massacre? Who will allow? All territories should be under the control of the Russian army. In any case, the first years.
    And in Lvov Rus (the author is joking, I will support) our missiles aimed at Poland should stand.

    It is much more profitable to make sure that we did not have problems with animals with a trident tattoo, but the Poles. Crossbreed a hyena with a jackal. Provide them with a guerrilla war FOR and AGAINST Bandera in the Carpathians.
  40. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 9 March 2022 20: 37
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    Quote: assault 2019
    First, anyone involved in Nazi activities should not be allowed to have further access to government, education or culture. A stop list with specific names and surnames is required, which is mandatory for use. Lustration should work in the opposite direction. And no new amnesty for the "neo-Banderites"

    Secondly, instead of a single federal state of Ukraine, it is more expedient to create several small federal states and build relations with each separately, playing on their objective contradictions.

    Thirdly, instead of full-fledged armies, New Russia and Little Russia will be allowed to have purely symbolic Self-Defense Forces, and the Western Ukrainian republics - only the people's militia. Moscow and Minsk should become guarantors of their security within the framework of the Union State

    Here are three mandatory steps that Russia must take regarding Ukraine in order to pull it out of the tenacious claws of the Nazis and return it to the united Russian WORLD.

    Having taken Novorossia and Little Russia, do not withdraw troops, leaving them in bases. Were you drawn out, didn’t you bite your elbows yet? Let them choose there, hold referendums, do what they want, but within the framework of the allied states. Those who do not understand this knock on the tree of the head. It's good to let the sawdust fly out. You are trying to play chess, and they are playing towns with you on your chessboard. Time to stop being an idiot. Didn't they see enough, or something, of how they can, in three boxes, on other people's guarantees? What happens ...... They don't learn anything. Mumble more about the brotherhood of peoples and proletarian solidarity. Guarantees. A guarantee is when a military unit is in the city.
  41. Nikita S. Offline Nikita S.
    Nikita S. 10 March 2022 07: 51
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    Uzhgorod is not a Western region. This is the land of Rusyns friendly to us. Transcarpathia should become something like the Kaliningrad region, and not part of Galicia.
  42. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 10 March 2022 11: 31
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    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    And how does control over Galicia prevent you from making friends through a neighbor?
    Between the Russian protectorate and Germany is Poland. What's wrong?

    You need to swap cause and effect. Good relations with Germany will rein in Poland. And not vice versa.
  43. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 11 March 2022 14: 09
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    The division of Ukraine is inevitable, because Putin made it clear that Lenin illegally transferred Russian territories to Ukraine. Over the past 8 years, Donbass has mentally become Russia, Ukraine has become Anti-Russia, even partially the South-East of Ukraine. It is obvious that the Donbass should become part of Russia, because with the return of Mariupol, the main port on the Sea of ​​Azov, the value of Donbass for the Russian Federation has greatly increased. What areas should be part of the Russian Federation, it is beyond the power of a couch strategist to understand. The Odessa region should definitely become part of Russia, because its strategic capabilities are akin to the Crimea. The Kherson region is also necessary for the Russian Federation, because even a multi-vector Novorossiya will blackmail Crimea. We need to cut a corridor to the Transcarpathian region to help the Rusyn brothers. Funds from the World Jewish Community can be attracted to the development of Ukraine. It is possible to create a New Israel around Uman. In the Dnepropetrovsk region, you can create a Jewish Autonomous Region, including it in the Russian Federation or Novorossia.
  44. Leonid Dymov Offline Leonid Dymov
    Leonid Dymov (Leonid) 14 March 2022 19: 19
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    In Sumy, Chernihiv, Cherkassy, ​​Poltava, referendums should be held, where they want - to Little Russia or Novorossia. The Transcarpathian region with the Rusyn brothers should have a corridor at the expense of Ivano-Frankivsk region to Little Russia.