The first prerequisites for the imminent division of Ukraine appeared


On Thursday, March 3, the Verkhovna Rada appealed to the UN and other international organizations with a request to send peacekeeping contingents to Ukrainian territory. On the same day, Vladimir Putin suggested that the State Duma ratify the amendments to the CSTO peacekeeping agreement, which introduce the concept of a "coordinating state" - it will form peacekeeping forces for operations under the auspices of the UN.


In this regard, a number of experts believe that units of the CSTO and NATO will soon be introduced into Ukraine. Thus, analysts talk about the likelihood of an early partition of Ukraine and are discussing a possible border between territories that will be controlled by "peacekeeping contingents." Probably, the border will pass significantly to the west of the Dnieper. Only two regions of central Ukraine (Vinnitsa and Khmelnitsky), as well as all the western regions, can be under the control of the current Nazi authorities. However, the Vinnitsa region remains in question, since, according to military strategy, it is necessary to ensure the alignment of the probable front in order to prevent a quick enemy strike with the subsequent circling of the Odessa or Kiev regions (see map above).

On March 2, the speaker of the Crimean parliament, Vladimir Konstantinov, also spoke about the possible disintegration of Ukraine after the completion of the Russian operation to demilitarize and denazify. In his opinion, the people's republics formed in Kharkov, Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev and a number of other regions will join the DPR and LPR in the future.

In a statement by Konstantinov, published on the Telegram channel of the State Council of Crimea, the parliamentarian also suggested that a neutral state friendly to Russia could emerge in the center of Ukraine. The western part of the country is likely to go "under the protectorate of the European Union."
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 4 March 2022 11: 52
    +19
    It is quite possible that the lands ceded to Ukraine under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact will return. For too long, Ukraine has criticized the communists. Now their "criminal mistake" will be corrected.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 4 March 2022 12: 06
      +10
      it is quite possible that they will also throw out what was bought from the Poles at a sale. Such a number, prone to jumps and betrayal, but not inclined to science, Russia can not digest. The constantly shitting Urkan diaspora in Russia is enough.
      1. PshekAndProudOfIt (Pshek) 5 March 2022 21: 10
        -4
        Didn't buy anything. You took it and gave half to the West. We do not want Ukrainian land, Lviv is now a Ukrainian city and let it remain so. What you destroyed in Ukraine, you will one day have to rebuild with Russian money, and I heard that the ruble has been low lately.
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 5 March 2022 21: 12
          +2
          Ukrainian land? I don't know this concept. Poland and Russia fought among themselves and not with the Ukrainians. Ukrainians went along with cows, pigs and rats ... in a burden to land and real estate. I see you don’t know the history of Poland well ... in particular, the fact of dividing the ruins along the Dnieper. etc.
          1. PshekAndProudOfIt (Pshek) 5 March 2022 21: 18
            -2
            This is how we fought, and if you attack us, we will defend ourselves. And I know that 100 Poles died in Ukraine. What is the interest in shedding Slavic blood?
            1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
              Just a cat (Bayun) 5 March 2022 21: 21
              +1
              Hard case laughing But does Russia need such Slavic brothers as Croats, Poles and Ukrainians?
              1. PshekAndProudOfIt (Pshek) 5 March 2022 21: 27
                -2
                We sent hundreds of firefighters and fire trucks to you many years ago, as your forests burned many years ago
                And you sent hordes of Muslim men to our border, and now you are sending Chechens to Ukraine. This is your gratitude.
                1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
                  Just a cat (Bayun) 5 March 2022 21: 32
                  +1
                  These are your Muslims! you bombed their houses and drove them out of their homeland. there is nothing to blame with a arrogant Polish head on a healthy Russian ..
                  1. PshekAndProudOfIt (Pshek) 5 March 2022 21: 39
                    -2
                    Polish troops were in Afghanistan and Iraq, although they should not be there. But there are no Russians in Syria. We have to accept Syrian refugees because you and the Americans have decided to raze Syria to the ground. We have already accepted 80 refugees.
                    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
                      Just a cat (Bayun) 5 March 2022 21: 46
                      +1
                      Poland is a member of NATO, like the United States. not Russia bombed Libya, Iraq and changed power in Syria. why does Belarus need refugees from the countries you destroyed? you shit and we have to feed? Islamist militants fled from Chechnya. What do you not like to eat what you have sown? thought Russia would choke on ISIS and Bandera? eat now and don't whine. and if there are many talkative like you, then Poland has already modeled how long it will last against Russia. so you better shut up.
                      1. PshekAndProudOfIt (Pshek) 5 March 2022 21: 53
                        0
                        I'm not going anywhere, I'm staying in the country, and if the Russian troops also attack us, we will defend ourselves. When I run out of ammo, I'll blow myself up.
                      2. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
                        Just a cat (Bayun) 5 March 2022 22: 01
                        0
                        wait ... have we been attacking for 30 years already? laughing Read more what Bandera people write there. their opinion is the main thing for you. and generally write in Russian. what ammo? when you have nothing to spoil, you will be all smeared with what you have already spoiled so that they don’t touch you. he will blow up... and you can only blow up hostages, like Ukrainians in Mariupol blew up a house with 200 inhabitants. your hero bandera.
                      3. Just Olya Offline Just Olya
                        Just Olya (Just Olya) 6 March 2022 20: 00
                        0
                        God, what ammo? What attacks? WHY? You yourself live in the European Union, where, in fact, the borders were changed to dotted ones ... The same was done with other countries, only visa regimes, the sale of real estate to foreigners, all sorts of Skolkovo, where there were preferences for foreigners, the opening of universities around the world, the development of tourism, joint corporations and the removal of production to other countries, and other things. All who could and wanted - all moved. All of this was AWESOME!!! It was earlier in the Middle Ages that the territory meant a lot, because. it's stupid fields for food. And now? It is no longer the territory with the angry people that is interesting, but the buns. And they can be obtained without conquest, but through contracts and other joint even with fat borders. Those who do not want to live on their own land immigrate through a bunch of different programs to different countries. And if you look back, you will see that no one attacked anyone until Biden started yelling that Russia was going to war, but no one showed up ... Until Zelensky started talking about nuclear weapons openly? So what? Where is it all from? And the fact that Russia has not been at war with Ukraine for all these 8 years - I hope EVERYONE has already seen? Did you see the DIFFERENCE, including in the reaction of the forces of NATO and other countries? And the States knew perfectly well that we were not there, otherwise they would have brought down a flurry of sanctions 8 years ago. So ... everything is on the surface ... it remains only to REALIZE where, when and what was in reality, and not in the media.
                      4. Just Olya Offline Just Olya
                        Just Olya (Just Olya) 6 March 2022 20: 10
                        0
                        And about the refugees. These refugees themselves burst into Europe. And transit countries, such as Belarus and even Poland, were not included in their plans at all. And most of them are not even refugees at all, but they paid money, I don’t understand to whom, and they paid VERY much by their standards. And for this money they were promised that they would be given status and so on in Germany, where they would live like in paradise for free and their families would be dragged there later. This is so to speak briefly about the events. Some of these refugees may be normal and hard-working - I don't know. And this business for money has been flourishing for many years. And now answer, how and on what basis Lukashenka was supposed to detain citizens of a foreign country and where to put them in 90 days, when, according to legal documents, tourists and travelers say that they have Germany in their plans? It's the same as if you fly to Australia, and at the transfer in Dubai they turn you around and say - go to Poland or live in Dubai. It is clear that Poland noticed that something was wrong, and correctly noticed ... BUT what questions do Lukashenka have when it is necessary to deal with other people in other countries?
              2. Terenin Offline Terenin
                Terenin (Gennady) 6 March 2022 12: 21
                0
                Quote from: PshekAndProudOfIt
                We sent hundreds of firefighters and fire trucks to you many years ago, as your forests burned many years ago
                And you sent hordes of Muslim men to our border, and now you are sending Chechens to Ukraine. This is your gratitude.

                That's really insolent PSHEK

                During the operation to liberate Poland, the Soviet Army suffered the following losses: - in people - irretrievable - 477 people, sanitary - 295 people, in total - 1 people.
              3. Eduard Viktorovich (Eduard Viktorovich) 6 March 2022 14: 56
                0
                Dear, and from here in more detail about your firefighters .... who told you the tale ?!
      2. OZ38SP Offline OZ38SP
        OZ38SP (Ilya Dudarev) 7 March 2022 14: 56
        0
        Forget the concept of "Russian ruble exchange rate". After the reforms, it will be the Ruble and only the Ruble. everything else from the IMF-dolyar, hryvnia, euro and tydy will compete with each other ...
    2. alexandre II Offline alexandre II
      alexandre II (Alexander) 6 March 2022 10: 57
      +1
      The constantly shitting Urkan diaspora in Russia is enough.

      but such people need to be kicked in the ass, and not to liberalize, by the way, their own too, there, to the heap and to the mines
  2. Vladimir Daetoya (Vladimir Daetoya) 5 March 2022 08: 58
    +1
    What the ...! Hungarians and other geyropskaya dregs supported anti-Russian sanctions. Why fight for them? They have nothing, from the word at all. It was and will be Ukraine, part of Mother Russia.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 4 March 2022 12: 04
    +11
    No no no. According to my plan, the west of the former Ukraine will be used in order to install our missiles there, aimed at Poland. And they still pay tax restoration of Donbass. So write down in the protocol - I am categorically against the occupation of truly Russian territories by the West.
  • Bakht Online Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 4 March 2022 12: 08
    -5
    The entry of troops (peacekeepers) does not mean the division of the country. Rather, on the contrary. It consolidates the status of the country as a whole. With a legitimately elected president who is recognized by both Russia and the West. It should also be taken into account that peacekeepers are usually introduced AFTER the end of the hot phase. That is, first we need to stop hostilities, hold talks in the NATO-Russia-Ukraine format, and agree on the boundaries of maximum advancement. After that, to reformat the state of Ukraine. That is, the re-election of the President, the Rada, the creation of a new Constitution and the formation of a coalition government, where ALL regions of Ukraine will be represented.
    Recognition of the LNR and DNR was not the best decision. Perhaps the only one, but that doesn't mean it's the best. But the eggs are broken and you need to cook the scrambled eggs. It is necessary to create new independent republics, recognize their independence, and then they themselves will decide in which direction to move. It is possible to be part of Ukraine already as an independent state entity. This will be able to reconcile the supporters of an independent Ukraine and the Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine. Conte had a slightly different map. The Federal Republic of Ukraine, consisting of 3-4 federations.

    1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
      Krapilin (Victor) 4 March 2022 12: 33
      +13
      The semantic concept of "Ukraine" is anti-Russia. After the creation of this "artificial ethnic content" by the efforts of the "Germans" and "Austro-Hungarians". For the Russian population of the East and South-East of the current territory of "Ukraine" in the state education there can be ONLY something consonant with Russia: Novorossia and Little Russia. This is a matter of shaping the worldview of those generations that will be born here, without “dislocation” of their brains by some kind of “Ukraine”. That is, it is a matter of principle - there can be no use of the term "Ukraine" to form the worldview of future generations born in Novorossiya or Little Russia. There can be no federation with the primordially "westernized" regions of the current territory of "Ukraine". These are absolute worldview antipodes. Connecting them together again “stately” is again stepping on the rake that is now underfoot.
      1. Bakht Online Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 4 March 2022 12: 45
        -7
        Your opinion is understandable. But there is reality. The same RealPolitic. The state of Ukraine exists. And it's been there for a long time. When the UN was formed, it was the USSR that dragged through the decision to include it in the organization. Moreover, both Ukraine and Belarus were introduced into the UN as independent members.
        I still stand by my opinion. ANY division of Ukraine is a geopolitical defeat. Russia's victory will be a neutral non-bloc Ukraine, in which the political agenda will be determined not by immigrants from Galicia, but by the Russian population. That is, the inclusion of Novorossia and Little Russia is vital. In any other version, it will be a Russophobic formation on the borders of Russia.
        By the way, in this scenario, it is Galicia that will become a hotbed of separatism. Under Yanukovych, they have already raised the issue of secession from Ukraine.
        1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
          Krapilin (Victor) 4 March 2022 12: 59
          +4
          Your opinion is your opinion. I'm not going to convince you. But I'll share mine, if you don't mind... The same "RealPolitic" according to which the USSR dragged Ukraine into the UN before your very eyes is no longer "real", and the history of "past days". For textbooks... It is quite obvious that - one way or another - the ALL geopolitical architecture and not only Europe, but the world as a whole will be rebuilt. TOGETHER with the UN, which has exhausted itself to the bottom and even lower.
          Defeat for Russia is the preservation of "Ukraine" ... Naturally, without the LNR and the DNR. Otherwise, it was not worth it then to get involved ...
          1. Bakht Online Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 4 March 2022 13: 02
            0
            Similarly, I will not convince you. It is your opinion. Wait and see.
            Just a note on RealPolitic. This applies not to the affairs of bygone days, but to today's reality. The State of Ukraine exists and is recognized by the Russian Federation. This is today.
            The destruction of the state of Ukraine is not included in the plans of the Russian leadership. In any case, not a single statement of Russian officials expressed such intentions.
            1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
              Krapilin (Victor) 4 March 2022 14: 36
              +1
              If we operate with the concept of "RealPolitic", that is, Real Politics - in your own translation into Russian - or politics taking place Here and Now, then just as there are non-recognized state entities, for example, "Pridnestrovie", so there are recognized, but already ceasing to exist, like Ukraine. This is Real Politics.

              It's not about destruction, but about the revision of borders and names. Do you want to save Ukraine? Around Lviv - as much as you like! However, if it suits the Poles... But next to, for example, Odessa, there shouldn't be any "Ukraine".

              What is included in the Real plans of the Russian leadership, exactly what and ... let's wait. Because we still do not see what is included in the real plans of European politics in terms of the future of Ukraine. Everything has just begun...
              1. Bakht Online Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 4 March 2022 15: 06
                0
                Real politics is what really exists. Recognition or non-recognition are just words for diplomats. If the state REALLY exists, then it does not matter whether it is recognized or not. Ukraine still REALLY exists. And it is recognized by all parties. Whether it will continue or not will be decided now.
                Many people are interested in the destruction of the state of Ukraine. By the way, not only in Russia.
                What does Russia need from the West (collective)? Guarantees of security and the absence of offensive weapons on their borders. This is Russia's main demand to the West. Which the West categorically does not want to fulfill (Putin's December ultimatum and the US response).
                From the point of view of solving this problem, a buffer state is needed. In the absence of a buffer state, Western offensive weapons will be located right at the borders of Russia. There will be a flight time of 10 minutes or 15 minutes - these are purely technical details that will soon be leveled by hypersonic weapons. Do you really think that hypersound will be Russian know-how for any long time?
                You propose to move the border hundreds of kilometers to the West. Suppose, at 300-400 km. At a rocket speed of 7 M (which is 2 km / s), the flight time changes by 3 minutes. Does it fundamentally change the situation?
                We need a SAFETY GUARANTEED. Really working, not declarative. This is the MAIN task of Russia. Preservation or non-preservation of the state of Ukraine is not among the priorities. To solve the MAIN task, it seems to me that the preservation of the state of Ukraine (in order to yield to the West) is a good solution. But not in the form in which it exists. I repeatedly use the word REFORMATION. This is a prerequisite.

                But again. This is my opinion, which I do not impose on anyone. I have the right to express it, and how to act will be decided in the Kremlin and Washington (there are only these two decision-making centers). I am not invited to any of these centers.
                1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
                  Krapilin (Victor) 4 March 2022 20: 31
                  +2
                  Russia's main security guarantees are its nuclear weapons. And more tactical than strategic. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are proof of that. The world has not “turned upside down” and nuclear winter has not come.
                  If the ultimatum is not fulfilled, then the actions that were agreed upon at the time the ultimatum was presented are performed. The collective west today is a "non-negotiable" party. The collective West did not give any guarantees that can be trusted and will NEVER give Russia. If you are being built by centuries-old and total deceit and lies from the collective West, then this is your personal choice. I can fix your point of view as a "given", but I can't accept it.

                  The current territory of Ukraine is the site of a direct military clash between Russia and this very collective West, and the concept of the “state of Ukraine” is an empty phrase for Russia and a smoke screen for the collective, primarily European West. There is no such state as Ukraine anymore. Already in fact.

                  At one time there was a "perestroika". Which turned into a "shootout" along the entire Russian perimeter. Reformatting involves the proposal of a new format. Which one exactly?
                  Preservation of Ukraine within the current borders? Naturally, without the LPR and DPR ...
                  I repeat once again - it will be the same rake after a certain time.
                  About what in one smart book, in my "free retelling", it is written exhaustively clearly and intelligibly: "You do not pour new wine into old and torn wineskins."
        2. Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
          Ingvar7 (Ingvar) 4 March 2022 13: 33
          +2
          It's the same crap...
        3. OZ38SP Offline OZ38SP
          OZ38SP (Ilya Dudarev) 7 March 2022 15: 06
          0
          That is, constitutional reform and federalization of the outskirts, in your opinion? Who will carry out this reform? That is, elections again? And this is in the Bandera dump?
          You are an idealist.
          The second is the withdrawal of Galicia from the outskirts, this is the collapse of the outskirts, after which external management can be organized before the formation of state and legislative authorities.
          1. Bakht Online Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 7 March 2022 17: 17
            0
            Today, my "idealism" is shared by people like Lavrov and Putin.
            True, yesterday Putin changed his rhetoric a bit. And his proposal looks like this: "either the federalization of Ukraine or the loss of statehood."
            So don't argue with me. Tell that to the "idealist" Putin.
      2. Rusa Offline Rusa
        Rusa 4 March 2022 16: 34
        0
        There can be no federation with primordially "westernized" regions ...

        That is, you propose that Little Russia is a separate state?
        Then what areas of the "square" will be included in its composition?
        1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
          Krapilin (Victor) 4 March 2022 20: 34
          0
          Yes, the new state of Novorossiya. The list of "areas" of this new statehood is now being decided on the battlefield.
          1. Rusa Offline Rusa
            Rusa 4 March 2022 21: 13
            0
            OK. Understandably
    2. Rusa Offline Rusa
      Rusa 4 March 2022 16: 51
      0
      Federal Republic of Ukraine as part of 3-4 federations

      Probably as part of 3-4 republics, not federations.
      1. Bakht Online Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 4 March 2022 16: 53
        0
        Yes, of course. My mistake.
  • 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 4 March 2022 12: 19
    +5
    It looks like the gentlemen are trying to repeat the feint with their ears, they cannot hold the whole country, they want to create an analogue of the DPR, LPR in the west of the outskirts, throw off the looted territory from the balance.
  • akropin Offline akropin
    akropin (Alexey) 4 March 2022 12: 37
    +5
    Pushing the NSU (Nazi forces of Ukraine) to the west of the country and enclosing them there with the UN forces is a bad idea. There will be an uncontrolled territory in the south of the Belarusian brothers, with all the consequences.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 4 March 2022 12: 44
    0
    I'm waiting for autumn.
    A) The new republics created on the territory of the former Ukraine, all as one, will refuse to pay the debts of Kyiv.
    B) Immigrants with guns will no longer be content with handouts from the EU and will start taking what is due to them. In their opinion.
    C) Empty gas storages must be filled. Winter will come despite the opinion of progressive politicians.
  • Cucumbers Offline Cucumbers
    Cucumbers (Cucumbers) 4 March 2022 13: 14
    0
    The section should be factual. If the army goes further, all of Ukraine will be ours. The liberated territories should be included in economic chains now
    1. Mark Offline Mark
      Mark (Mark) 4 March 2022 19: 16
      -2
      The entire area is useless. Let them live with the Poles. They have the same characters. And so much ambition. So let them stare at each other
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 4 March 2022 13: 18
    +5
    Quote: Bakht
    Russia's victory will be a neutral non-bloc Ukraine, in which the political agenda will be determined not by immigrants from Galicia, but by the Russian population. That is, the inclusion of Novorossia and Little Russia is vital.

    The logic is not clear. There was already such a country, which included Novorossia and Little Russia. Neutral and non-aligned did not work. Now after the war, it is proposed to return to the old format.
    Like it somehow magically transforms the country's politics in some mystical way. Instead of logic, they hang noodles on their ears "Russia will be a victory."

    The victory of Russia and the LDNR will be reunification.
    The victory of Russia and Novorossiya will be an opportunity to recreate friendly and mutually beneficial relations.
    The victory of Russia and Little Russia will be peace and cooperation between countries. In which Little Russia can remain neutral like the current Finland, Austria and Switzerland.
    Russia's victory will be a tough denazification of Galicia and military bases on its territory.
    1. Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
      Ingvar7 (Ingvar) 4 March 2022 13: 32
      +4
      Only reunification will be a victory...
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 4 March 2022 13: 36
        +1
        I don't think people are ready for this. Neither here nor on the territory of the former Ukraine.
        Maybe later. When the passions subside and it becomes possible to calmly assess the prospects for reunification.
        1. art573 Offline art573
          art573 (Artyom Vladimirovich Yarovikov) 5 March 2022 15: 23
          0
          only DNR and LNR. If there is a referendum. According to the constitution, there should be like a legislative act of the subject who wants to join. So referendums on the territory of the DPR and LPR
    2. Rusa Offline Rusa
      Rusa 4 March 2022 17: 09
      0
      ...Neutral and non-aligned did not work.

      Of course, Ukraine was already neutral, and now its aspiration to join NATO is written even in the Constitution. And there is no guarantee that Maidan and a coup d'état will not happen again according to a well-known scenario with the support of the West.
  • ivanoff180869 Offline ivanoff180869
    ivanoff180869 (180869 Ivanoff) 4 March 2022 13: 25
    +2
    Most likely, a constitutional reform and federal reorganization of the Durkains will be carried out, with the right to secession of certain regions or regions from the state or the formation of new confederates from them. There is a long work of politicians to reorganize Durcaina. Definitely, there will be no recognition or formation of Novorossiya on the territory of Ukraine in the coming months. There will be a long propaganda work and conducting surveys of the population, preparation of a referendum on the national state structure. There will be no NATO in Durkain, like a UN peacekeeping contingent, Putin did not start everything for this, our guys are not dying for NATO. Most likely there will be the entry of the CSTO peacekeeping contingent. You look, and there Father Grygorych will take over the Lutsk and Rivne regions, if suddenly they do not want to enter Galicia with its capital in Lemberg.
  • Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
    Ingvar7 (Ingvar) 4 March 2022 13: 30
    +3
    That's exactly how it should be. All Nazis must have a reservation, as was the case in the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
  • borisvt Offline borisvt
    borisvt (boris) 4 March 2022 13: 52
    +2
    Hmm, how it is, how it is!
    Give Rivne NPP? Carpathian region with Rusyns? I guess it's shortsighted. I think the continuation from Brest to the south is just around the corner, until the mercenaries poured in 10 yards of greenery to work out, which Biden requested from Congress, and 3 more which the IMF quickly allocated.
    If the locals are strongly against it, they don’t consider it necessary to put up with it and live in peace, then there is always an option to take a walk to the station with a suitcase to Warsaw))
  • Valentine Offline Valentine
    Valentine (Valentin) 4 March 2022 14: 48
    +2
    Guys, until we need to share what was once our fraternal republic, we, from our sofas, cannot see everything that is visible from the height of the Kremlin by our president, and soon we will see all this, because such actions are not done in 2- 3 weeks, and not with our "analytical" brains to give advice here about the reorganization of our world.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 4 March 2022 16: 12
      +1
      Guys, we don’t need to share what was once our fraternal republic

      This territory has never been fraternal. In the 90s, Bandera actively fought against ours in the Caucasus. In 2008 on the side of Georgia. And the policy from the first years of independence was nationalistic.
      And do not tell me that the locals are not to blame, they say that the authorities muddied all this.
      No. They elected and changed this power. And it always worked out like it is now with Zelensky.
      So this miscarriage of the political life of Europe must be buried and forgotten.
      We need to build new states.
    2. Rusa Offline Rusa
      Rusa 4 March 2022 17: 28
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      We ... do not see everything that is visible from the height of the Kremlin ...

      Maybe so, but the main thing is that it doesn’t work out that way, when territories and people are divided like a sack of potatoes, their opinion will have to be taken into account in the "reorganization of our world."
      1. Valentine Offline Valentine
        Valentine (Valentin) 4 March 2022 17: 53
        +2
        No, this will not happen, Putin is not the alcoholic Yeltsin, who with one stroke of the pen deprived about 1991 million Russian people of their homeland in Viskuli in 27 at once.
  • ustal51 Offline ustal51
    ustal51 (Alexander) 4 March 2022 16: 06
    +3
    a number of experts believe that CSTO and NATO units will soon be introduced into Ukraine

    - the experts lined up in a row and say all sorts of nonsense ...
  • throw Offline throw
    throw (suhov) 4 March 2022 17: 11
    0
    why there is no information about what will happen to Transnistria.? Will Russia recognize him or push him into the arms of the Moldovans??
  • Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 4 March 2022 18: 19
    +3
    The presence of Western fascists is a threat to Russia in any redistribution ... A good fascist is only a dead fascist ... Humanists, common people - bourgeois in the leadership, wake up ...
  • paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 5 March 2022 01: 33
    +2
    It will be a big mistake if the western regions of Ukraine are allowed to go to NATO and the EU. Thus, the Nazis will remain there and in the end it will be a territory super hostile to Russia. No peacekeepers from Europe should be allowed there. The borders must be restored at the time BEFORE the collapse of the USSR. And the Nazis need to be cleaned up, physically, no conclusions and UDO.
    1. Valentine Offline Valentine
      Valentine (Valentin) 5 March 2022 05: 41
      0
      And how can they be "cleansed" in Western Ukraine itself, where everyone hates Russia fiercely, and there are now thousands of coffins with "warriors of light" going there, what about their parents, families, and other relatives? Reservation with barbed wire and guards with watchdogs?
      1. Dimakh Offline Dimakh
        Dimakh (Hamijan) 5 March 2022 12: 01
        +1
        And they were aware of what was happening in the Donbass .. and the parents of these warriors of light once blessed them for these murders .... deck that let them feel how much a pound ... raisins ..... Completely to the very border with the Poles. .not an inch of land .... unwilling suitcase Warsaw railway station ..
      2. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 15 March 2022 06: 11
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        Russia must defend itself in every possible way. For those who hate RUSSIA fiercely, there are two options: 1) run away, 2) die. Russia cannot afford the luxury of living for enemies within the country. Such liberalism will create a lot of problems and take many lives of respectable citizens.
  • assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
    assault 2019 (assault 2019) 5 March 2022 05: 42
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    From the president's message, it was said that the main risk of Ukraine's entry into NATO would be the deployment of medium-range missiles (RSMs) near Kharkov.
    In the event of the partition of Ukraine and the transfer of its Western regions under the "protectorate" of NATO members, won't there be new risks of getting RSD near Rivne or Lutsk, with practically the same time of missiles reaching Moscow?
    It is not clear why the author of the article decided that after the end of hostilities, central and eastern Ukraine would suddenly become a state friendly to the Russian Federation? With the exception of the DPR and LPR, which have always been for Russia and will receive the main "bonuses" in the form of new territories within their former borders.
    For 10 days of intense fighting, less than a thousand people from the 150-strong group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered, women with flowers meeting Russian troops are also not visible.
    Perhaps the people of Ukraine are intimidated by the Nazis and therefore behave very restrainedly ...
    It could be worse if the previously neutral and pro-Russian part of the population of Ukraine, after the provocations of the Nazis, shelling and significant casualties of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, take an anti-Russian position.
    But "the Rubicon has already been crossed" and will be what is destined to be.
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 06: 09
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      For 10 days of intense fighting, less than a thousand people from the 150th group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered,

      Firstly, not in ten days, but in nine.
      Secondly, let's wait another ten days.
      Prisoners are generally an incomplete indicator. How many desert - that's what else matters.
      I am sure that the further, the more the number of surrendered and deserters will grow very rapidly.
      It's just that some hustlers want quick results. And the military still, for some reason, think about the loss of personnel. They have no plans to win the war in the shortest possible time.
    2. Rusa Offline Rusa
      Rusa 5 March 2022 10: 03
      +1
      Perhaps the people of Ukraine are intimidated by the Nazis and therefore behave very restrainedly ...

      This is true. Moreover, the Bandera and Nazis of Ukraine are holding the civilian population hostage, threatening and killing people.
    3. Just Olya Offline Just Olya
      Just Olya (Just Olya) 6 March 2022 20: 38
      +1
      They are not intimidated. They believe that they fought with Russia for 8 years, and that they have the Great Patriotic War now ... with all the consequences ...
  • VID 2 Offline VID 2
    VID 2 5 March 2022 07: 19
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    While Odessa, Kyiv, Nikolaev, Kharkov are under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
  • Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 5 March 2022 08: 36
    +1
    It only makes sense to complete demilitarization and denazification ... Everything else is to cut the tail in parts ...
    1. Victor Makeev Offline Victor Makeev
      Victor Makeev (Victor Makeev) 5 March 2022 08: 44
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      Yes, everything is so, but cut the tail to the very ears!
  • Victor Makeev Offline Victor Makeev
    Victor Makeev (Victor Makeev) 5 March 2022 08: 44
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    Good afternoon dear friends! I think that NATO should not be allowed near the borders of Russia, under any sauce, too fidgety guys. It is necessary to create a confrontation on all issues for this sharaga, not to concede in anything, in anything!
    1. art573 Offline art573
      art573 (Artyom Vladimirovich Yarovikov) 5 March 2022 15: 27
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      NATO stands on the border with Russia in all directions! What are you talking about? Estonia - a direct border with the Pskov Novgorod region of Russia, Norway - a border with Russia in the Murmansk region, a maritime border with Turkey, Romania and Bulgaria along the Black Sea, Chukotsky Aut. district of Russia - the border with the United States for 60 km, also NATO .. ​​Kaliningrad - the border with Poland, a member of NATO.
      1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 15 March 2022 06: 20
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        That's right, there is enough work for the Russian army)
  • Vladimir Daetoya (Vladimir Daetoya) 5 March 2022 09: 04
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    Quote: Just Cat
    Russia can not digest. The constantly shitting Urkan diaspora in Russia is enough.

    No one needs to be digested, we are not swallowed. Since childhood, knowing the Chechens, I was sure that problems would never end with this wild people. But Putin turned them in such a way that it became an honor for them to fight for Russia. Or did they suffer fewer losses than Ukraine, no matter how things went there? Or were the Chechens not so radical? Or are Ukrainians further from us in faith? In general, only propaganda separates us from the Ukrainians. We differ with them as the Russians of the independent 20s from the Russian colonial 90s. Propaganda has divided us, propaganda will unite us.
  • Sr Sk Offline Sr Sk
    Sr Sk (Sr Sk) 5 March 2022 11: 50
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    With what fright does this "miracle" give out the author of our lands drenched in blood, our fathers and grandfathers in the Great Patriotic War and for which today's descendants shed blood. As for the western regions and the people living in them, if they do not like our state structure, ideology and etc. and also if they carry out illegal actions, let them go to their historical homeland or we will help them leave or they will go to prison or to Hungary, Poland, etc. let them choose. Who are you to distribute our lands, at least you won something in your life, you just learned to be ready to trade that the generation of speculators (businessmen) and Pepsikola created the USSR.
  • Crunch Offline Crunch
    Crunch (Crunch) 5 March 2022 12: 51
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    Quote: Just Cat
    it is quite possible that they will also throw out what was bought from the Poles at a sale. Such a number, prone to jumps and betrayal, but not inclined to science, Russia can not digest. The constantly shitting Urkan diaspora in Russia is enough.

    When the target disappears, the movement speed decreases. The vector turns into Brownian motion. There will be no Ukrofascist non-country. And everyone will need to live in a new environment. Outbursts of idiocy, of course, will appear. But no one can always live in such a regime. It will settle down, we will bury especially stormy ones, we will correct those who are prospectively cured. The new ones will remember the past with shame. Look at the Germans. From fear in 1945 to indifference 90. I'm talking about the layman.
    1. art573 Offline art573
      art573 (Artyom Vladimirovich Yarovikov) 5 March 2022 15: 30
      +1
      Mikheev said that those who remember the last century and come out jumping "Glory to Ukraine" are psychopaths living in a primitive age 200 years ago. Politics Neanderthals.
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  • PshekAndProudOfIt (Pshek) 5 March 2022 21: 01
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    Poland is not going to and will not participate in the division of Ukraine. We don't need this Earth. It would be better for us and for you to close the border and never deal with each other again. If you don't want to sell gas and coal to Europe, sell to China and buy cars and electronics from them.
    1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 15 March 2022 06: 28
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      Nobody will ask Poland what it wants. The United States and Russia will decide
  • alexandre II Offline alexandre II
    alexandre II (Alexander) 6 March 2022 10: 55
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    yes, fuck these "westerners", all our lives we have been at enmity with them, west and east
  • zi2023ma Offline zi2023ma
    zi2023ma (Vlad Vlad) 6 March 2022 17: 40
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    I think that the West and NATO should not leave a single inch of Russian land ... what to do with Western Ukraine - you have to think ... probably a separate economic territory under the control of Russia ... or it can organize two territories - Lviv and Uzhgorod and Lutsk-Chernivtsi .. - only without names Ukraine ... Vinnitsa should go to Odessa ... our regions should be in contact with Transnistria ... but the population in the western part of Ukraine must be thoroughly shaken up and in no case should NATO be allowed ...
  • OZ38SP Offline OZ38SP
    OZ38SP (Ilya Dudarev) 7 March 2022 14: 50
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    Firstly, I propose to carefully look at the map of the outskirts.
    Have you looked?
    Now let's talk. None of the leadership of the Russian Federation will allow the division of the outskirts. There are Yalta and Potsdam conferences. Forget the pact. In the future, the Russian Federation can go to a certain bargain on the division of the outskirts only if the UN recognizes Crimea as an integral part of Russia.
    Secondly, the Russian Federation will never make territorial concessions during the division, given that on the territory of the modern outskirts there are four operating nuclear power plants and the Chernobyl sarcophagus. Putin clearly said that the outskirts should be denuclearized, hence the South Ukrainian nuclear power plant will soon be taken under control, leaving two - in the Khmelnytsky and Rivne regions. It is impossible to leave them to Bandera, to blow them up too, therefore, the Rivne and Khmelnytsky regions are automatically eliminated from the auction. Now we look at the map again - the Ukrainian-Lutsk region remains on the southern border of the Brest region, it rests like a ledge on the underbelly of Belarus. No one will allow this bridgehead. Therefore, the maximum that Bandera can fall off (in the best case) is Chernivtsi, Ternopil, Lvov and further to the west (it’s a pity for the Rusyns, but let’s hope that the Hungarians will take them for themselves).
    Therefore, take a ruler and draw an approximate line from the junction of three states - Belarus, Poland and the outskirts and down to the extreme southwestern junction point on the border of Khmelnitsky, Ternopil regions and Moldova (by the way, it is still unknown what will happen to Transnistria!?).
    And finally, the state status of this neoplasm ...
    Well, like PYSY - a tough sweep of the western outskirts ...
    1. paramaribo55 kmt (paramaribo55 kmt) 15 March 2022 06: 35
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      Bandera should have nothing left but life. And then, if they manage to escape with their families. In Ukraine, under their feet, the earth must burn.