Military operation in Ukraine: Working on the first mistakes


The sixth day of Russia's military operation to force Ukraine to demilitarize and denazify has arrived. A number of important tasks have already been achieved, but so far everything is not going as easily and smoothly as many would like. Ukraine, to put it mildly, was slightly underestimated, and the matter is complicated by the fact that the Russian Defense Ministry voluntarily assumed obligations to act “in white gloves”, that is, as humanely and respectfully as possible to its opponent. It is clear that the Kremlin has made a number of grave mistakes that need to be corrected while it is still possible to do so.


Can't leave you stay?


Now it is not customary to talk about this directly, but the cause of all today's problems in Ukraine and Russia lies in 2014. At that time, at least half of the population of Nezalezhnaya was pro-Russian, and Novorossia itself asked to join us as part of the Russian Federation, following the Crimea. It was enough to provide assistance to the legitimate President Yanukovych, and the Maidan project would have been curtailed according to the Belarusian or Kazakh scenario. There would be no water blockade of Crimea, no 8 years of constant shelling of the DPR and LPR, no severance of industrial ties with Russia, no long-term propaganda pumping of Ukrainians, no strengthening of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who finally learned how to fight. Alas, this was not done in a timely manner, and now this 8-year-old inaction has to be paid with great bloodshed on both sides and grave economic sanctions, the effect of which will soon make itself felt.

But what to do now that the military operation has begun? Stop the offensive, agree on some kind of compromise with Kiev and go home?

Unfortunately, there is no way back. Now we are officially an "evil empire", and the fraternal Ukrainian people now hate us fiercely. No one will lift the imposed Western sanctions. After the withdrawal of Russian troops, NATO will enter Nezalezhnaya. Strike missile weapons will appear there with a 100% guarantee. If the Kremlin again stops halfway, without bringing the matter to its logical conclusion, namely, the complete and unconditional surrender of Kyiv, this is fraught with subsequent profound shocks in Russia itself, up to the collapse of our country. So the Japanese started talking about the annexation of the Kuriles.

The situation has reached such a stage that it is impossible to take a single step back, despite the fact that the path ahead will be very difficult. And now it is necessary to talk about the mistakes already made during the military operation and whether it is possible to try to correct them somehow.

What is all this for?


In announcing the start of the military operation, President Putin referred to Russia's right to self-defense and set the goal of denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine. The past 5 days have shown that this was clearly not enough. Many Ukrainians did not perceive this as a liberation operation. Also, the reasons for what is happening were not understood by many of our compatriots who do not understand anything in policy, neither in the economy, nor in military affairs. They just feel sorry for their relatives in Ukraine and feel sorry for themselves, because it is already clear that the sanctions will hit hard on the wallets of ordinary Russians.

The Kremlin's huge mistake was not to explain to the Ukrainians exactly what the Russian troops are trying to achieve. What kind of denazification is this? Who specifically will be held accountable? The name of the “bloody pastor” Turchinov has already been mentioned, but I would like to hear in advance the entire list of the main potential defendants. Even worse, the Russian authorities do not feel the need to talk to ordinary Ukrainians in an attempt to explain what the Kremlin's ultimate goal is.

What kind of Ukraine does Moscow want to see in the end? Federal or Confederate? What powers will the regions receive after the reform? How will economic relations and military relations be built?technical cooperation? Will Russian be the second state language? Who can lead the country during the transitional period?

In other words, no constructive agenda, the need for which we have long they said, The Kremlin initially did not offer the Ukrainians. So is it any wonder that they behave like in the “Patriotic”, perceiving for the most part Russian soldiers far from being allies?

Ukrainian Liberation


Another mistake that follows directly from the first is the emphasis on the use of the Russian army. Literally on the eve of the announcement of the decision to start a military operation, we they said that it would be more correct if the Ukrainians themselves fought for Ukraine, albeit with the support of the RF Armed Forces. After the recognition of the DPR and LPR, on the basis of the militia and Russian volunteers, including from the "vacationers", it would be possible to create the Liberation Army of Ukraine. The confession unleashed the hands of the Kremlin, which was given the opportunity to provide it with any weapons. In the same place, in Donetsk, it was worth placing an alternative government of the new Ukraine.

If done wisely, it would be the Liberation Army of Ukraine that would conduct military operations, and the Russian army would simply help as an ally, occupying the liberated territories. You look, and there would be no such powerful sanctions, although they, of course, would still be. Now for everyone we are "interveners and occupiers."

Some errors


The day before, a certain Manifesto on the formation of a new state, the Federal Republic of Ukraine, was published in the media:

We, the free people of Kharkiv, Mykolaiv, Sumy, Chernihiv and other regions of Ukraine, declare and proclaim the formation of a new democratic state, the Federal Republic of Ukraine…

Our goal is to unite all the peoples of Ukraine who do not want to put up with the domination of neo-Nazism and bloody crimes on our land.

Our goal is to create a democratic federal state and carry out complete denazification and debanderization, introducing criminal liability for the rehabilitation of Nazism.

Our goal is to create a democratic federal state where every nation can speak its own language. The number of state languages ​​is not limited.

Our goal is to create a democratic federal state, where the main goals will be to ensure human rights and freedoms.

Our goal is to create a democratic federal state where freedom of religion will be ensured and the independence of the Church from the state will be guaranteed.

Our goal is to create a democratic federal state and punish war criminals who are guilty of unleashing a civil war and mass bloodshed.

Our goal is to create a democratic federal state with a free market economy.
Our goal is neutrality and friendly relations with all states of the world.

Now, this already looks like some kind of adequate political program. Note that the document mentions those Ukrainian regions where Russian troops are already stationed. If Moscow publicly supports the initiative, then the part of Ukrainian society that has retained its sanity will see that it has nothing to fight against. And this will be a true and correct step towards establishing peace in this unfortunate country.

As for the military component, it is not too late to start creating the Liberation Army and the People's Militia. The fact is that the Russian grouping is seriously inferior in number to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other paramilitary structures of Ukraine. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation relied on the encirclement and neutralization of the most combat-ready grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass, as well as on the encirclement and forcing the surrender of Kyiv. The Russian military is not trying to take major cities seriously, only those that are needed for free movement across the territory of the Independent. In general, from the point of view of humanity, the approach is correct. However, it also has its downside.

150 Russian troops are clearly not enough to control a huge country with an unfriendly population the size of France. At a critical moment, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard can leave the cities where they hid behind civilians and strike in the back. Under no circumstances should this be allowed. Since the Kremlin decided to carry out a military operation by the forces of the Russian Ministry of Defense, it is necessary to create an alternative Ukrainian army and the People's Militia to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Under our control, armed structures should appear, consisting of local volunteers who are close to the idea of ​​​​the emergence of the Federal Republic of Ukraine. It is they who will have to block those settlements where the enemy has settled, negotiate with them on the surrender on the rights of “their own”, be responsible for order in the liberated territories, where they will have to catch gangs of marauders armed by President Zelensky. This will also allow the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to protect its rear and free up forces for operations in the main areas.
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  1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
    Krapilin (Victor) 1 March 2022 11: 45
    +5
    ... 150 thousand Russian troops are clearly not enough to control a huge country with an unfriendly population the size of France ...

    And who said that they plan to control "the entire Ukrainian country"?
    Let the West control the Western regions, Russia control the Eastern ones. Was it Elba? Was... Why can't the Dnieper become such an Elbe? As an option…
    But for this it is necessary to smash to zero the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions, concentrated against the LPR and the DPR. In total, it takes 6 days, with a planned military operation for, as an option, for a month. Aviation is just getting started. Yes, the expectation of a mass surrender of weapons by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the very first day did not come true. But was there such an expectation exactly on the first day, and not, for example, on the 1th? The problem of the lack of further supply of ammo to the surrounded will objectively speed up the process. When there are no “bullets”, you won’t make war on slogans ...
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 1 March 2022 12: 12
      +10
      Let the West control the Western regions, Russia control the Eastern ones. Was it Elba? Was... Why can't the Dnieper become such an Elbe? As an option…

      Yeah. Get Russophobic Pravoberezhnaya. Will it be easier for you if American missiles are deployed on the other side of the Dnieper?

      The problem of the lack of further supply of ammo to the surrounded will objectively speed up the process. When there are no “bullets”, you won’t make war on slogans ...

      Western partners are already ready to help with bullets and airplanes.

      The West cannot leave a single piece of the former Ukraine.
      1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
        Krapilin (Victor) 1 March 2022 13: 47
        0
        Yes, it's easier, first of all.
        Secondly, why did you decide that even an attempt to place them at the time of just preparing the launch pads would not be covered by Caliber?
        Russia has crossed the Rubicon and will hammer at once, only having warned in advance that they should not rock the boat and "roar". The question is about the preservation of the country.
        Russia does not need the western patches of Ukraine for nothing with the center in Lvov.

        Bullets and shells in the cauldron? How do you see it in practice?
        The Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions were supposed to strike massively at the LPR and DPR, and NATO would immediately “fly” into Ukraine: with weapons, aviation, mercenaries, logistics, logistics, and so on, but only in a front-line manner. And all this Ukrainian horde would really flood into the Rostov and Belgorod provinces, having the initiative. The police of the DPR and LPR would not have kept them. Russia hit first. There were no other options. And now there is no other way than to drive the Ukrainian military infrastructure into the ground. Yes, this is war. It was started by Ukraine in 2014 against the Donbass, that is, against the Russian World. Patience is over - the "answer" flies. In this situation, the third, as they say, represented by NATO is superfluous. Or will also become a distribution. It would have happened anyway... The new reality is already with you...
        1. Dingo Offline Dingo
          Dingo (Victor) 1 March 2022 15: 14
          -2
          Did he even understand what he wrote? ... launch pads ... With calibers ... And get 3, nuclear? Get off the couch, get some air... Or sleep...
          1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
            Krapilin (Victor) 1 March 2022 15: 18
            0
            Don't be nervous... Or is your sofa on caterpillars?
            I understood that, but you are "generally in general" prostration and do not understand anything? Lucky...
      2. Ingvar7 Offline Ingvar7
        Ingvar7 (Ingvar) 4 March 2022 15: 52
        0
        This is better than the dissolution of Westerners in Kievan Rus. Robbery again...
    2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 1 March 2022 12: 14
      -8
      And who said that they plan to control "the entire Ukrainian country"?

      Then a new Somalia or Bandera Vilayat Ukrostan will be born. Only in Central Asia, but in the Russian Western Military District.

      The problem of the lack of further supply of ammo to the surrounded will objectively speed up the process. When there are no “bullets”, you won’t make war on slogans ...

      So NATO rushed to fix this matter while the borders are open. Not all weapon caches have been opened.
      1. Krapilin Offline Krapilin
        Krapilin (Victor) 1 March 2022 13: 54
        +2
        Around Russia, and so one continuous "Asian Somali" and "European monkey". And opposite the "Western" military district and opposite the "Southern". What do you suggest - to give up? To cook and eat?

        Nothing can be corrected by them, because the most combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions are in boilers.
        The caches are for terrorists. For the army - the logistics of constant supply.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 1 March 2022 23: 07
          -5
          There are doubts about the logistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I suggest you start thinking about your next move in this mess.
      2. Dingo Offline Dingo
        Dingo (Victor) 1 March 2022 15: 18
        0
        ... but this is already close to the topic. I read it in the Russian Spring - the Poles decided to supply the Nazis with the old MIG-29s left over from the Union. The pilots are already in Poland...
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 1 March 2022 15: 56
          +2
          On the part of the Poles, this is a good scheme not to pay for the disposal of junk, but rather to earn money. The sky over the baboons is blocked. The military airfields of the baboons have been destroyed. Will these planes be dragged along the ground? baboons do not look like Japanese kamikaze pilots.
        2. faiver Offline faiver
          faiver (Andrei) 1 March 2022 16: 16
          +1
          The gentlemen turned out to be not completely frostbitten - without waking the letaks ..
          1. EpIvIaK Offline EpIvIaK
            EpIvIaK (Ian) 1 March 2022 21: 13
            0
            I heard that they were refused about those 70 aircraft, sort of.
            PS and the article is generally interesting. I am an amateur for prof. level. It was interesting to read. Maybe our authorities should read such points of view, take something for themselves, correct some aspects.
  2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 1 March 2022 11: 53
    +3
    The Bulgarian seer said that she did not see Ukraine on the map, since a wanderer from a foreign land would bring discord and war into it:
    The Donetsk province, with its center in Lugansk, after the revolution turned into the Donetsk region, and then was artificially divided into the same name and Luhansk regions.
    F. Sergeev and S. Vasilchenko, creating the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic, was logical both in terms of language and cultural and historical grounds, with the capital in Kharkov, and then in Luhansk. A decree was adopted on the separation of the DKSR from Ukraine.
    ONR fought three times with Kiev for its freedom and won all three times.
    It is logical that the current territorial formation should shrink to the center and north, and the western regions will return to their former owners - to Europe, for which they seized the arsenals of weapons and their regional state administrations.

    ONR is the Odessa People's Republic. I wonder why they have not yet remembered their republic at the beginning of the 20th century and raised its flag? ONR is no worse than the UNR.
  3. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 1 March 2022 12: 11
    -10
    150 Russian troops are clearly not enough to control a huge country with an unfriendly population the size of France.

    Even if the Armed Forces of Ukraine go to the moon in one second, approximately 300 troops will be needed to cover the borders with Romania, Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary, to guard and defend communications, and to serve as a commandant. Not to mention the provision of operational activities. Helicopters for various purposes, heavy-type UAVs will be required.

    Many events are done with a huge delay. More like beating on tails, and direct response.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 1 March 2022 12: 15
      +2
      Even if the Armed Forces of Ukraine go to the moon in one second, approximately 300 troops will be needed to cover the borders with Romania, Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary, to guard and defend communications, and to serve as a commandant.

      For such a service, it is necessary to recruit a new army and people's militia from the locals. Already right now, in the occupied territories.
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 1 March 2022 12: 28
        -10
        Personnel for new structures should be selected, not recruited. The set is rowing for everyone. Who will select? Where? Who will check? Mobile territorial bodies of the FSB? MIA? Mobile military registration and enlistment offices, as in the years of the Second World War? So they took the policemen, accomplices of the Nazis, because they did not have the opportunity to check.
  4. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 1 March 2022 12: 18
    -5
    Our information MO works disgustingly! If they can’t work ahead of the curve, then at least they justify themselves promptly. There is a war, fighting and without losses is impossible! Moreover, we do not equate cities with the earth. It is necessary to speak and admit at least minimal losses. Kadyrov admitted that too. Not surprisingly, even Switzerland has moved out of neutral status.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 1 March 2022 12: 31
      -7
      Treat with a grain of salt the reports of losses or successes of the parties. One Podolyak works more efficiently than the whole DIPK of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Lack of funding. There are no mouths of propaganda, no mouths of special propaganda on the Ukrainian population, on prisoners of war of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    2. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 1 March 2022 23: 58
      -1
      Steel-maker, everything is done very simply, they ban everyone who does not support the policy of the Zelensky party. I was banned instantly, on all the Jewish channels that I found in Telegramm and where you can leave comments.

      And here Bindyuzhnik poured mud on Russia for more than one year. The rest probably fled.

      You Steel-maker, would have been quartered long ago, but with us you do not stop writing on the site.
  5. beeper Offline beeper
    beeper 1 March 2022 12: 25
    +3
    And there is no need for such an intelligible method of propaganda and agitation as dropping leaflets over the territories of the former Ukrainian SSR, still occupied by Bandera-fascists, over the same "cities in the rear" that have not yet been cleared from the Nazis!
    After all, Russian planes fly freely over the entire "Ukraine", including the western "Bandera" regions!
    If I saw such leaflets in the yard or on the street, I would pick it up and bring it to read (or you can also recall the experience of the Kuryniksy cartoons, especially since the visual images immediately penetrate, directly cut into, into the “subcortex” of the brain, I would secretly pin it on the fence or such a visual propaganda on the wall - let people watch and read, and the Nazis become evil in anger!) to acquaintances and neighbors, sitting at home alone with the total Bandera "zombie vision"!
    It is also possible to drop "passes into captivity" over parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    Why is this not being done?!
    All propaganda work and ideology is at the mercy of the raging liberda and odious (not only according to the "Mannerheim monument", but also according to the "Roskino products", very "ambiguous" in their interpretations of our common Soviet history) presidential advisers - "Medinsky" ?? !
    In war, as in war!
    It’s time for the Russian Federation itself to think about the State Ideology, because without it wars are NOT won, hence the unfinished appeasement of the “half-victory” enemies and the white, capitulatory, Olympic flag of the Russian Federation!
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 1 March 2022 13: 50
      0
      You have been begged for EIGHT years to become wiser and especially active in the first two days of the operation!!! And now that's it, there will be no gingerbread. It has been said more than once that there will be no occupation. The reports are already showing destroyed Ukrainian equipment in the residential sector. They do not stand on ceremony either with houses or with schools. Putin is clearly not chasing the approval of his actions from the Ukrainians. The life of a Russian soldier is more precious. But the desire that you are inexorably drawn to take a shit from horror at the slightest thought of spoiling Russia is clearly visible.
      1. beeper Offline beeper
        beeper 1 March 2022 15: 07
        +7
        How many times have I drawn your attention, aka Just the Cat, to the fact that with such "friends" (their own headless everyday Natsiks, in essence and rhetoric, the same as Ukrainian everyday Natsik-"Svidomites"), Russia and enemies are not necessary! request
        Softly, too softly, not at full strength, as if "for fun", as if on a walk, and not in a serious strategic operation, Russian troops are operating!
        The Russian authorities, as usual, "chew snot" and, in fact, do not cherish, do not spare their soldiers (dooming them to ineffective actions and losses from ambushes and strongholds of the Bandera-fascist Armed Forces not suppressed by heavy artillery! in addition, they miss the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are those but the national bandits are "on a contract", and not on an "oath to the people", as Putin and his generals like to ornate, cowardly, like "leopold cats", calling to "respect" these Bandera occupiers and letting them go "home on a subscription")!
        The Russian authorities "do not want to piss off" and feel sorry for the Ukrainian residents, vainly hoping for the goodwill of 30 years of anti-Russian (and 8 years of fierce pro-Bandera!!!) "processing" of the local population (acquaintances with Zapukria write to me these days that they are Galician Banderlogs , in fact, having occupied the entire former Ukrainian SSR for 30 years, everyone en masse "hates the Russian occupiers", while completely denying that they themselves are our real occupiers, the eternally servile lackeys of the West) ?!
        I have nowhere to run and I’m not going to - I was born and raised on this our Russian Land, the former Wild Field conquered by Russian troops - historical Novorossia, I hope that it will finally be freed from the dominance of the Galician Bandera-fascists, local "Svidomys" and Ukrainians " w / Bandera "! yes
        If only Putin and Shoigu (mentally purely civilian functionaries - "committee" and "Ministry of Emergency Situations") this time had enough "military spirit" to bring the matter of denazification and demilitarization to the very end, without fussing with their "respectable Maidan business partners" and again not " negotiating" with them in some thread of Minsk or Gomel, or somewhere else!
        And if a Russian shell or bomb, hitting nearby, still undestroyed, the headquarters of the national guards of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, together with it turns my house into ruins, mixing me with its wreckage, then so be it, I will know that I died for a Just Cause -for our Russian Victory, and not died like a dog under the Bandera yoke! wink
        The Kremlin should put the Victory over Washington fascism above its "brotherly snot" and from the very first days fight truly, ruthlessly apply the most effective military and propaganda methods of influencing the enemy to achieve Victory!
        Later, after the unconditional surrender of the Fashington puppets, it will be possible to take care of the remaining population of the former Ukrainian SSR - the restoration work will be found by everyone who wants to and does not want to! yes
        And the Inspiring State Ideology based on the ideas of Justice and Truth must necessarily be at the forefront (otherwise the enemies, as in the case of the "emasculated", virtually unprincipled, "perestroika USSR", will crush us sooner or later)!
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) 1 March 2022 15: 23
          0
          Here's an example for you for general development... https://rusvesna.su/news/1646130975
          how peaceful natives are re-educated. And where did all the indignation against Russia go... You can also look for how an armored plant was destroyed in the middle of Kharkov. Is it cold for Kharkov Ukrainians now to sit in apartments without windows? Or how in the same Kharkiv an armored personnel carrier was destroyed near a school. no armored personnel carrier now no school. At the expense of "brotherly snot" I strongly doubt it. the same carrot as with visa-free travel to Europe.
          1. beeper Offline beeper
            beeper 1 March 2022 15: 28
            0
            In war, as in war!

            And "snot" - for later, to someone alive!
            1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
              Just a cat (Bayun) 1 March 2022 15: 32
              0
              laughing Georgia did not let the Ukrainian plane pick up the volunteers... No snot. Georgians have a fresh memory, they don't want to anger Russia. And Moldova does not want to anger Russia. So Ukrainians, when everything is over without any allied states, the next time they will think before they jump. Now they will lower the whole urkaina to the level of the end of the 19th century and come out. And you are there with the loans that you scored somehow figure it out yourself.
        2. RADIK Offline RADIK
          RADIK (radik) 1 March 2022 23: 27
          +2
          Considering our absolute unpreparedness and complete fiasco in the information war, all our philanthropic actions towards the population and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will remain unnoticed and unappreciated by anyone. Our silence only plays into the hands of the fake news writers. Our complete incompetent management of propaganda and counter-propaganda nullifies all the merits and victories of the army, about which not only in the world, but also in the country they know nothing. Konashenkov, back in Syria, showed his complete mediocrity as a political informant and propagandist - for a week now he has been chewing cotton wool about outdated news, without confirming a single information with visual videos and frames. For a week there has been a war of a huge mass of people from both sides, and according to him, only 100 military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who surrendered and not a single one who suffered from the actions of some unknown weapon. Where are the photo and video documents confirming the destroyed objects of the military infrastructure of Ukraine, where are the reports of war correspondents from the battlefields. When coffins from Ukraine begin to arrive in Russian cities and villages, thanks to the toothlessness of our information services, distrust of the authorities and ongoing activities in the country itself will become more and more, as was the case during the war in Afghanistan. When, according to the statements of our media, our soldiers there helped the Afghan people, built roads, schools and houses, and "black tulips" with a load of 200 went to the Union. We do not learn anything and do not draw any conclusions, one empty blah blah. only Putin is taking the rap for the country.Why the hell, one wonders, does the Russian Defense Ministry contain a huge apparatus of deputy politicians, the Zvezda TV channel with a horde of correspondents and journalists that gobble up millions of rubles from the state budget?
    2. Dingo Offline Dingo
      Dingo (Victor) 1 March 2022 15: 30
      +3
      Yes, to be honest - I went nuts when I saw Medinsky as the head of the delegation ... What is this? Who is it? From which chair was the last time this shnik was kicked? From the Ministry of Culture, like?
      1. RADIK Offline RADIK
        RADIK (radik) 1 March 2022 23: 47
        +3
        It was thanks to him that all these "artists" were born in the depths of our Ministry of Culture, dissatisfied with the actions of the Russian authorities and who are ashamed of being Russian! However, the fact that Medinsky was sent to the negotiations speaks of how they are treated at the top and what is expected of them, in a word, PPR - as they used to say in the Soviet army - They came, they talked, they dispersed.
    3. molotkov60mkpu Offline molotkov60mkpu
      molotkov60mkpu (Yuri) 1 March 2022 16: 11
      +2
      Pishchak, for your sake, I regenerated the password in order to enter the forum and support. The topic is the most relevant from the very beginning. Without ideology, all the gestures of the country's leadership are in vain. All actions are not filled with meaning and course. The meaning that they want to give to any decisions is liquid and unconvincing. And all politics, both internal and external, are vague, half-hearted, amorphous. It is not even necessary to fight with us, and even economically, not only armed. It is enough for our opponents to educate the youth in the atmosphere of their values, and in a couple of generations this country can be taken with bare hands. Ukraine is a prime example. we still hold on because of our stable mentality, due to the expanses of the country, the Russian language, Russian traditions. But any substance has a limit of strength. The current situation is a chance for a decisive, radical, profound change in the course of the country's movement. People, education, science, production are waiting.
      1. RADIK Offline RADIK
        RADIK (radik) 1 March 2022 23: 56
        +4
        We hold on not because of our stable mentality, but on the upbringing of the people that grew up and were brought up in the Soviet Union! But it becomes less and less every year, and generations are already replacing it - victims of perestroika, the collapse of the country, permissive freedom and rampant democracy, as well as the young generation that suffered from reforms in education and the lack of a unified approach to education - Ivans who do not remember kinship to which everything is one: what is will, what is bondage!
    4. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 2 March 2022 00: 09
      -1
      It must be said that the Ukrainians are liberating the country from the invaders who seized power in 2014. You yourself do not need Ukraine, but someone does. A Jew called with threats, called the Russians animals. They think it's their country.

      But Jews cannot be touched, this is an old Jewish trap called the Holocaust.

      Let's shake the enemies. It was the Steelworker who turned me on.
  6. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 1 March 2022 12: 40
    +2
    A number of important tasks have already been achieved, but so far everything is not going as easily and smoothly as many would like. Ukraine, to put it mildly, was slightly underestimated, and the matter is complicated by the fact that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation voluntarily assumed obligations to act “in white gloves”, that is, as humanely and respectfully as possible to its opponent. It is clear that the Kremlin has made a number of grave mistakes that need to be corrected while it is still possible to do so.

    Maybe everything is easier? Reality does not fit into the pattern, is it not as "as many would like"?
    Those "who wanted to" underestimated it, now they wonder why everything does not go "so easily and smoothly"?
    Well, of course, the Ministry of Defense is to blame for everything, they didn’t ask for advice from those who know how to laughing "The maximum humane and respectful" it treats the population and seeks to minimize participation in battles, thereby preventing the loss of primarily personnel. The shelling of rockets, the use of aviation and artillery against the Ukrainian army probably does not fit well into the idea of ​​humanity and respect. Respectfully cover with hail and humanely cover with Caliber, it sounds strong!
    What mistakes should be corrected immediately? Take off the "white gloves" and walk knee-deep in blood, one's own and someone else's? Beat wherever they saw and bomb the city?

    Now it is not customary to talk about this directly, but the cause of all the current problems of Ukraine and Russia lies in 2014. At that time, at least half of the population of Nezalezhnaya was pro-Russian, and Novorossia itself asked to join us as part of the Russian Federation, following the Crimea. It was enough to provide assistance to the legitimate President Yanukovych, and the Maidan project would have been curtailed according to the Belarusian or Kazakh scenario.

    If it is not accepted, then why are you talking? smile The fact that you consider the supposedly wrong decision of 2014 to be the cause of all the problems does not mean that this is really the case. The legitimate President Yanukovych, as far as I remember, turned out to be a rag, he never asked for help.



    Did you want to help in spite of your will? That is, without asking the same legitimate president?

    Unfortunately, there is no way back. Now we are officially an "evil empire", and the fraternal Ukrainian people now hate us fiercely.

    So that's why you are now calling for blood pouring without sparing? Like there's nothing left to lose? I'm embarrassed to ask, but in 2014 we would not officially become an "evil empire"? What about the second half of the population, which was not pro-Russian, at that moment they did not cease to be a "fraternal people" and did not begin to "hate us fiercely"?

    Many Ukrainians did not perceive this as a liberation operation.

    The Kremlin's huge mistake was not to explain to the Ukrainians exactly what the Russian troops are trying to achieve. What kind of denazification is this? Who specifically will be held accountable? The name of the “bloody pastor” Turchinov has already been mentioned, but I would like to hear in advance the entire list of the main potential defendants. Even worse, the Russian authorities do not feel the need to talk to ordinary Ukrainians in an attempt to explain what the Kremlin's ultimate goal is.

    And what do you think needs to be corrected, to make them believe? They don't understand the difference between denazification and defication? Don't know who the Nazis are? How was it necessary to speak with ordinary Ukrainians? Give each wanted list a hand?

    What kind of Ukraine does Moscow want to see in the end? Federal or Confederate? What powers will the regions receive after the reform? How will economic relations and military-technical cooperation be built? Will Russian be the second state language? Who can lead the country during the transitional period?

    Don't you think that it would be nice to ask the Ukrainians themselves about this? Then you are indignant that they are not talking to them, but here you are not interested in their opinion.

    If done wisely, it would be the Liberation Army of Ukraine that would conduct military operations, and the Russian army would simply help as an ally, occupying the liberated territories. You look, and there would be no such powerful sanctions, although they, of course, would still be. Now for everyone we are "interveners and occupiers."

    Really? laughing And in 2014, it was not necessary to create a "people's liberation"? Do you think Russia's participation in the creation of a 200-250 thousandth army armed with tanks, aircraft, Caliber would have remained unnoticed, respectively, no sanctions? Would we now be white and fluffy in the eyes of the West?belay Are you seriously? winked

    150 Russian troops are clearly not enough to control a huge country with an unfriendly population the size of France. At a critical moment, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard can leave the cities where they hid behind civilians and strike in the back.

    Velcom fellow Videoconferencing will be held and the track will be illuminated yes Going out into the open would be just the perfect solution. good

    In general, the criticism is rather strange. The cities have not been taken, and you are already demanding the creation of a new government, army and police. Do you propose to complete them with villagers past whom the army passed? You do not rush things? It hasn't even been a week yet.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 1 March 2022 12: 47
      +1
      What mistakes should be corrected immediately? Take off the "white gloves" and walk knee-deep in blood, one's own and someone else's? Beat wherever they saw and bomb the city?

      Oh, how someone changed their shoes here. smile

      If it is not accepted, then why are you talking? smile The fact that you consider the supposedly wrong decision of 2014 to be the cause of all the problems does not mean that this is really so. The legitimate President Yanukovych, as far as I remember, turned out to be a rag, he never asked for help.

      Requested.

      Truth? laughing And in 2014 it was not necessary to create a "people's liberation"? Do you think Russia's participation in the creation of a 200-250 thousandth army armed with tanks, aircraft, Caliber would have remained unnoticed, respectively, no sanctions? Would we now be white and fluffy in the eyes of the West? belay Are you serious? winked

      In 2014, Ukraine did not have its own army. Kyiv had 1 combat-ready battalion for the whole country. It was enough at the request of Yanukovych, which WAS, to send troops.

      Don't you think that it would be nice to ask the Ukrainians themselves about this? Then you are indignant that they are not talking to them, but here you are not interested in their opinion.

      I heard their opinion.
      https://topcor.ru/24269-a-nas-za-sho-pochemu-ukrainskie-pop-zvezdy-teper-puskajut-krokodilovy-slezy.html

      You are a hypocritical demagogue and an opportunist. stop
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 1 March 2022 13: 33
        -1
        Oh, how did someone change their shoes here

        Details will be?

        Requested.
        In 2014, Ukraine did not have its own army. Kyiv had 1 combat-ready battalion for the whole country. It was enough at the request of Yanukovych, which WAS, to send troops

        The name of the battalion will be and something in confirmation?
        It would probably be nice if this word was accompanied by a quote and a reference to Yanukovych's appeal with a request to send troops. All that he asked - uncle Vova take me away from here.

        I heard their opinion.

        Do Ukrainians now express the opinion of singers? laughing

        You are a hypocritical demagogue and an opportunist.

        Such an assessment from a professional critic is like a balm for wounds yes
        1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 1 March 2022 14: 58
          +1
          Such an assessment from a professional critic is like a balm for wounds yes

          Poor assessment of my professional journalism from a professional troll. hi
          The ignoramus is not able to understand the difference between criticism and constructive criticism.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 1 March 2022 15: 48
            0
            Poor assessment of my professional journalism from a professional troll.
            The ignoramus is not able to understand the difference between criticism and constructive criticism.

            As I understand it, you will not show Yanukovych's appeals about the introduction of troops, will you limit yourself to name-calling? smile Serious reasoning for "constructive criticism" good laughing
            1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 March 2022 07: 29
              0
              As I understand it, you will not show Yanukovych's appeals about the introduction of troops, will you limit yourself to name-calling? smile Serious argumentation for "constructive criticism" good laughing

              Yeah, especially after, at the insistence of the Kremlin, Yanyk had to deny his own statements about the request to send Russian troops. Pop was covered.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 2 March 2022 08: 01
                +1
                Yeah, especially after, at the insistence of the Kremlin, Yanyk had to deny his own statements about the request to send Russian troops. Pop was covered.

                As I understand it, this is your personal opinion or what source will you refer to?
                Where are the statements from which it was necessary to deny?
  7. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 March 2022 12: 43
    +2
    There are no errors. The operation is proceeding calmly and measuredly.
    The APU is grinding. Partially scatters or surrenders. When the material base is completely destroyed, the process will go faster.

    Peace is possible only after demilitarization is carried out. That is, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine are destroyed or voluntarily lay down their arms.

    And then the process of denazification will begin. Which will also be difficult. Perhaps even more difficult than war. This is where it becomes clear who is who. And, yes, there will be many refugees.

    By the way, not so long ago, by historical standards, a similar operation took place in Chechnya. And don't tell me that Chechnya is much smaller and less populated. Then our army was completely different. Now we see the results of such an operation. Chechens are fighting on the territory of the former Ukraine.

    Note that the LDNR is already practically part of Russia. When applying for a new Ukraine, these areas are not even discussed. They are a piece cut off from Kyiv.
    And Kharkiv and others, as always, are engaged in empty declarations.
    In order for statements to have weight, you need to do something, and not hang out on the Internet.
  8. AICO Offline AICO
    AICO (Vyacheslav) 1 March 2022 12: 57
    +1
    - They don't load shit in a tuxedo - you can get dirty, just like there is no war in silk gloves !!!
  9. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 1 March 2022 13: 11
    0
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    In 2014, Ukraine did not have its own army. Kyiv had 1 combat-ready battalion for the whole country. It was enough at the request of Yanukovych, which WAS, to send troops.

    If Kyiv had only one combat-ready battalion, then why did you need the Russian army? Millions of pro-Russian residents of Ukraine could shower this battalion with their hats and spit. Despite the fact that among these millions there were tens of thousands of soldiers who, logically, wanted to unite with Russia.

    I have long suspected that Putin did not make mistakes in 2014. He just really looked at things. The policy was wrong until 2013, when Ukrainians were allowed to eat cookies and drink jam from Americans, Germans and other "partners".
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 1 March 2022 13: 36
      -9
      All this spectacle is directed by the State Department with the United States and its NATO affiliation. Putin has been watching this for 20 years. He did not litter the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine with his people. He gave NATO the opportunity to engage in the formation of formations. The situation is built in such a way that Putin had only one way, options. We are seeing this path. And recently the reduction of the Armed Forces of Russia was carried out. Aerospace Forces, Navy, Air Defense, Ground Forces have been reduced. Reduced medical facilities of the Ministry of Defense,
      GRU special forces brigades, which showed themselves excellently in the DRA, in the North Caucasus, in Dagestan. Shortage of officers and ensigns. But the troops of the National Guard of Russia are deployed. And is this a real way of looking at things?
      1. shiva Offline shiva
        shiva (Ivan) 1 March 2022 14: 18
        0
        No matter how the statement - so carbon copy is the same thing. I agree with you, but you are shit.
        How much do they charge you and where are you sitting - I'm just wondering? In what center of the fight against propaganda? Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Ukraine?
    2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 1 March 2022 14: 57
      +2
      If Kyiv had only one combat-ready battalion, then why did you need the Russian army?

      Why were the CSTO forces in Kazakhstan if the Kazakhs have their own army? Why did Putin promise Lukashenka to send retirees?
      for political support. With Russian troops on hand at Yanyk, no one would have flinched at all.

      Millions of pro-Russian residents of Ukraine could shower this battalion with their hats and spit. Despite the fact that among these millions there were tens of thousands of soldiers who, logically, wanted to unite with Russia

      Yeah. There, everyone has a hut on the edge. Look, there have long been rumors that Kharkov could be the first to become part of the Russian Federation. Back in February 2014, Kernes and Dobkin flew to the Kremlin to talk about this topic. So send them. There was no need for such goodness. For nothing.
      Putin did not want to fight in 2014, but now we are fighting with a twinkle in 2022.

      I have long suspected that Putin did not make mistakes in 2014.

      My opinion is different.
  10. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. 1 March 2022 13: 33
    -1
    ... "Vietnamization" is proposed?
    ...Even Napoleon was defeated in Spain and Russia, because the army cannot fight against the people.
    ...Afghanistan is another confirmation of this!
    ... If the respected Author believes that: "the fraternal Ukrainian people now hates us fiercely" (and this is far from the case!) - then from whom should the proposed "Liberation Army" proposed by him liberate Ukraine and what could be the consequences?
    ... But his reproach about the fact that: "the Kremlin did not initially offer a constructive agenda to the Ukrainians" is true!
    ...This is one of the reasons for the difficulties, and this error is worth working on!
  11. Dingo Offline Dingo
    Dingo (Victor) 1 March 2022 15: 52
    +5
    Sergei, author. What is even worse is the actions of a diplomat in the UN. However, I will insert his quote, with your permission.

    ...The head of the Russian delegation at the UN climate conference, Oleg Anisimov, apologized on behalf of the Russians for Russia's military operation in Ukraine.

    “Let me apologize on behalf of all Russians who were not able to prevent this conflict. Those who see what is happening cannot find any excuse to attack Ukraine,” Anisimov quoted AFP as saying.

    Later, in an AFP commentary, Anisimov clarified that his statement was his personal opinion. He urged not to consider it as the official position of Russia.


    Question to Lavrov - isn't it time to clean up your diplomatic corps? These are not clowns, not voiceless "singing cowards" - this is a diplomat representing Russia.
    1. Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
      Roma Phil (Roma) 1 March 2022 19: 35
      0
      Probably, such statements are also needed on behalf of not the state of Russia. but on behalf of the Russians.
      This once again proves that free people live in Russia with their own opinion, What is in fact Freedom of Speech, pluralism of opinions, and free criticism of their government. And no one is put behind bars for this, as the Western media are trying to present.
      Well, the man expressed his personal opinion. So what ? From this something has changed in the policy of Russia?
  12. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
    aquarius580 1 March 2022 16: 28
    -2
    namely, the complete and unconditional surrender of Kyiv

    - the author does not understand anything about how Ukraine works. Namely: no "surrender" will be recognized by any soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and not a single fighter of the Territorial Defense.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 March 2022 07: 26
      0
      Well, let's see. It seems that the "killed" border guards from Zmeinoye wanted to enroll in the RF Armed Forces.
    2. special correspondent (oleg) 2 March 2022 15: 14
      0
      Quote: aquarius580
      Namely: no "surrender" will be recognized by any soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and not a single fighter of the Territorial Defense.

      This has already been confirmed to you, to the last, in writing by these very "terr-defense fighters"?
  13. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
    aquarius580 1 March 2022 16: 29
    -3
    from local volunteers who are close to the idea of ​​the emergence of the Federal Republic of Ukraine

    - Well, maybe a hundred of these can be found throughout the country.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 March 2022 07: 28
      0
      Then, when it's over, we'll count.
    2. special correspondent (oleg) 2 March 2022 15: 16
      0
      amazing and how did you manage to count everyone so cool at such a time?
  14. Gosha Smirnov Offline Gosha Smirnov
    Gosha Smirnov (Smirnov) 1 March 2022 16: 49
    -2
    Better late than never. Good article and conclusions. But ... late. Regardless of the results of the military component, and it will be with very high losses for the Russian Federation, but the Russian Federation as a whole has already lost and it is completely incomprehensible how GDP is going from this it’s a shame to steer. Very many did not expect such a frank miscalculation and idiocy from the Russian leadership.
  15. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 1 March 2022 18: 34
    +2
    It is also not clear that we cannot stop shelling, people of the republics, children are dying. What a total helplessness...
  16. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
    Kapany3 1 March 2022 19: 36
    +1
    I read up to the "Ukrainian Liberation Army", but did not go any further. Only from the very idea it smacks of a lack of understanding of what it is all about.
  17. innuendo.od Offline innuendo.od
    innuendo.od (Slav Slavych) 1 March 2022 19: 42
    +2
    The Russian government is launching the information resource "Explain.rf" with verified information against the backdrop of fakes and rumors.
  18. Marshal Zhukov Offline Marshal Zhukov
    Marshal Zhukov (Marshal Zhukov) 1 March 2022 20: 21
    0
    From the side it is always more visible. Writing articles is not to smear the wheels. Especially looking for errors. War is not a game of Cossack robbers. And even more so in modern tanks. And the author will never lose. The results are already visible. The Balts have already paid attention to the Russian-speaking population. It turns out that we should also take into account.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 2 March 2022 07: 25
      -1
      Since 2014, the author has been writing about what will end with just this, with a lot of bloodshed on both sides. And in every possible way urged not to condone the Ukrainian regime. Here are the results of doing nothing.
  19. opportunist Offline opportunist
    opportunist (dim) 1 March 2022 21: 36
    -2
    Hey guys, listen to something, capture the territories of the new Russia, and that's it. What will happen in the west of Ukraine, if NATO troops enter there or not, we lost the game in 2014. take all of Azov and the Black Sea strategically and Ukraine will remain poor rural poor NATO fascist state and nothing else.
    1. special correspondent (oleg) 2 March 2022 15: 31
      0
      Yes, no one is going to capture (and then contain) the territory. This implies giving the people of Ukraine the opportunity to create their own power without pressure and terror from the ultra-Nazis. Provided, of course, complete demilitarization.
  20. Alex_Ko Offline Alex_Ko
    Alex_Ko (Alexander) 1 March 2022 22: 41
    +1
    If the Ukrainian Liberation Army had appeared out of nowhere. And it would have become the initiator of hostilities on the territory of Ukraine, this would have been a reason for the government of Ukraine to ask for military assistance from the Western allies. And they would bring in troops, immediately. In this situation, the only thing left was to play with open cards. By conducting a direct military operation to demilitarize Ukraine by Russia. After the liberation of one or two regions, in addition to the Luhansk and Donbass regions, it is quite a sound idea to create the same liberation army of Ukraine. This will provide an opportunity to form a human, personnel reserve for the post-war political landscape. You need to think about this in advance. Out of nowhere, politicians who will have to pass power will not appear.
  21. Denis radish Offline Denis radish
    Denis radish (Denis Moroz) 2 March 2022 03: 02
    0
    there is such a nuance: the sky is controlled by the Aerospace Forces. Absolutely and completely And also satellite reconnaissance. So no one can go anywhere and hit.
  22. FGJCNJK Offline FGJCNJK
    FGJCNJK (Nikolai) 2 March 2022 08: 03
    0
    I carefully read all the comments - CONCLUSION, the complete destruction of the national battalions, and only then all the talk about what will happen next. The most thorough filtering of those taken prisoner with their further sending not home to their wives and mothers - but to restore everything that was destroyed, and primarily in the Donbass.
  23. Miffer Offline Miffer
    Miffer (Sam Miffers) 2 March 2022 09: 03
    0
    Alas, this was not done in a timely manner, and now this 8-year inaction has to be paid for with great bloodshed on both sides and with heavy economic sanctions, the effect of which will soon make itself felt.

    1) We are all very strong. In hindsight and hindsight. If only, if only...
    2) The year 2014 is taken as the starting point. Why not 1991? Or 1922? Or 1917?

    3) There is the concept of "force major" - "higher power", force majeure circumstances. These include government actions that I (as a law-abiding citizen of Russia) do not condemn or discuss. Done the way it's done. And point.
  24. Yuri Neupokoev Offline Yuri Neupokoev
    Yuri Neupokoev (Yuri Neupokoev) 2 March 2022 13: 13
    +1
    A few thoughts about the special operation (purely personal opinion).
    1. The Russian Defense Ministry may not be purposefully waging a counterinformation war. The enemy does not need to know much. Making fakes is not our business, and there is no need to tell a lot of truth either. Better to do business. And the resources of NATO and the EU in the media are limitless. How they wash their citizens there, horror. And only this fact of the mass media ... war from the West suggests that we had no other way out. After some time, NATO through Ukraine would have flooded, definitely.
    2. The operation is slow - yes. The Armed Forces of Ukraine (with detachments of Natsiks) are stubbornly resisting - yes. But Ukrainians have always been famous for their perseverance (compliment). Yes, and for 30 years, many have been brainwashed like that ... Therefore, there is no need to rush too much, but you should not delay it either. The population should not suffer much. Until we finish off the main grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass, in other directions there will only be blocking of large cities (for now). And our grouping is still much smaller than the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, despite all these columns of equipment. Plus supply issues.
    3. Kharkov must be taken in any way. And the sooner the better. Without it and the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass, it will be impossible to really block Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa and seriously deal with Kiev.
    4. Regarding the reaction of the local population. Yes, there will be bitterness and rejection among many. This is a question of our competent actions in the future (a separate and difficult issue). As you move west, this will only intensify (fact). There are not so many especially exalted characters in the southeastern regions. They are quite stubborn and aggressive. But there are those who are for the Russian Federation. There are enough of them too, but they still don't stick out (and rightly so). Then (especially in the southeast) we will see all this. But the bulk are "hataskayniki". The propaganda of NATO and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the shelling of their residential areas are designed specifically for them (especially the poorly educated) - mobilization and hatred of the Russian Federation. But this is temporary. All these facts must then be investigated and it is significant to judge the perpetrators (who will be alive).
    5. It is necessary to clean up all of Ukraine up to the border (otherwise the operation does not make sense, because in a couple of years it will blaze again), but after cleaning the southeast. And the supply in the west is to stop the VKS. The supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is underway, but so far there is no real reaction of the Aerospace Forces.
    6. The main thing is that the operation is carried out in full. Signing any documents with this regime is pointless. But they must be led.
    The main question is what then, after the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the cleansing.
    Platoshkin proposed his own version, with which he fully agrees, but it is hardly feasible, because. the impudent Saxons will not agree with him.
  25. lomograph Offline lomograph
    lomograph (Igor) 2 March 2022 17: 52
    -1
    I think everything is done right.
    There is a task - to cut out Bandera and the armed forces that threatened the Russian Federation.
    This is being done.
    The issue of the state structure should be decided by Ukraine itself, so that after that no one would even think for a second that the new Ukraine is a product of the Kremlin.
    1. Mouse Offline Mouse
      Mouse (Andrei) 3 March 2022 02: 33
      -1
      Cut it out?)))) This is not a tree. Fix it, yes. There are correctional places and there are enough places.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 3 March 2022 04: 53
        0
        Cut out, cut out.
        Why should we waste resources on trying to correct Bandera? For "partners" to praise us and impose new sanctions?
        Bandera have every right to have their own beliefs. We have the right to cut them out, as they prevent us from growing new free republics.
      2. lomograph Offline lomograph
        lomograph (Igor) 4 March 2022 07: 31
        0
        When the branches of a fruit tree are affected by rot and fungus, they are cut down and burned.
        Who is there to re-educate? Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, Avakov?... (Long list follows)
    2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 3 March 2022 04: 50
      0

      The issue of the state structure should be decided by Ukraine itself, so that after that no one would even think for a second that the new Ukraine is a product of the Kremlin.

      No Ukraine.
      Local residents are building their new states. under the control of the Kremlin.
      We should not be concerned about the opinion of "partners".
      The own interests of the Russian Federation are above all, and all the Wishlist of local residents should be limited to our interests. Ignore the wishes of the "partners".
  26. Mouse Offline Mouse
    Mouse (Andrei) 3 March 2022 02: 32
    -1
    You can't sow anarchy. If the Russians came, then there is no need to let go, there is no need to shoot. There is a lot of space in Siberia. It has long been a place to correct freemen. The taming of the sharp-witted is worth it.
  27. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
    Astronaut (San Sanych) 3 March 2022 11: 05
    0
    This author underestimates the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, however, like all his self-confident opuses))
  28. Victor Muss Offline Victor Muss
    Victor Muss (Victor Muss) 5 March 2022 10: 51
    +1
    I, and some of my acquaintances, believe that Ukraine, as a terrorist state, urgently needs to be liquidated, all management structures that are part of its region, first by a decree of the President, and then by the law of the State Duma, be included in the Russian Federation! And then, slowly, already on their territory, burn out the national fascist ideology with a red-hot iron. If you go the other way (recognition of the regions as separate independent Republics), or divide it in another way (Little Russia, Novorossia, etc.), then over time the same thing can happen as happened with the Republics that are part of the USSR, that is, each entity will fight for a place in the sun according to your own ideas! It will not lead to anything good, problems will only pile up. As for the ruble exchange rate, there is a small article by some author and I suggest you read it:

    American funds have turned out to be a secret US weapon against Russia. They have accumulated enough Russian public debt to bring down the ruble. This is evidenced by the "Overview of the risks of financial markets" of the Central Bank of Russia for February.
    For the first time, the regulator disclosed data on foreign holders of federal loan bonds (OFZ), which account for 23,3 percent of government securities. More than half of the investments, 13,8 percent, belong to funds from the US and the UK.
    As it turned out, the Americans hold OFZ for 944 billion rubles, the British - for 947 billion. The remaining 410 billion from investors from Belgium, Singapore and a number of other countries. At the same time, the report indicates that the circle of large investors is very narrow. For example, in Belgium, almost all securities (98,5 percent) are held by one buyer. The largest US holder owns OFZs worth 784,5 billion rubles (83,1 percent of US investments).
    Investors legally registered in Belgium and the UK are ultimately owned by US multinational financial holdings. As a result, the main volume of foreign entry into the Russian state debt, 2,16 trillion rubles, falls on the investments of three such banking conglomerates.
    The Central Bank, warning about the vulnerability of the Russian market to geopolitical factors, has in mind possible sanctions from the United States and Great Britain against the Russian public debt. After the incident with Sergei Skripal, in which Washington blames Russia, such sanctions have already been partially introduced, but only in the placement of debt in dollars.
    Thus, the incident with Alexei Navalny (the founder of the Anti-Corruption Foundation, included by the Ministry of Justice in the register of organizations that act as foreign agents), who is associated in the West with a substance from the Novichok group, will be the second such case. Because of it, sanctions can be extended to the Russian public debt in rubles.
    The realization of such a threat will force US funds to arrange a sale of public debt, which will lead to a fall in the value of OFZ. In 2018, an outflow of 352 billion rubles from the public debt led to the ruble losing 20 percent of its value. This time the sale could be at least seven times bigger.
  29. Victor Muss Offline Victor Muss
    Victor Muss (Victor Muss) 5 March 2022 17: 09
    0
    Recognition of the independence of Ukraine in its modern form with a national-fascist ideology is generally impossible due to the constant conflict with the Republics of Donbass. This will not lead to anything good, problems will only accumulate. So the decision to join Russia by regions, in our opinion, is the only correct one.