Political scientists: Putin chose the most radical solution to the Donbass


The meeting of the Security Council of Russia held the day before and the signing by Russian President Vladimir Putin of decrees recognizing the independence (statehood) of the LPR and DPR aroused increased interest in Russian society. The NEZYGAR Telegram channel interviewed a number of Russian experts to find out their opinion on what happened and forecasts about possible further consequences.


Vladimir Putin chose the most radical option to respond to the aggravation of the situation in the Donbass - the immediate recognition of the LDNR by Russia and the simultaneous signing of agreements on military-technical cooperation with the leaders of the republics

- political scientist Maxim Zharov is sure.

The expert drew attention to the fact that in his "Ukrainian speech" the Russian leader not only made an excursion into history, but also listed in detail the facts of the preparation of terrorist attacks by the Ukrainian authorities on the territory of Russia.

The simple recognition of the independence of the LDNR by Russia without the appropriate semantic support will mean the country's involvement in the war in the Donbass according to the "Afghan scenario". This is unacceptable in the current situation, so the Kremlin must show flexibility and ingenuity in explaining to the country and the world one of its key strategic decisions in the XNUMXst century

- the expert noted.

He believes that now there is a high probability of official recognition of Ukraine as a terrorist state by Russia. After that, Moscow will stop cooperating with Kiev within the framework of the Minsk agreements, and the entire militarytechnical assistance from the United States, Great Britain and other states to Ukraine will be considered sponsoring international terrorism.

This step should give thought to the countries that are now playing the role of a “third force” in the Ukrainian conflict, and thus the threat of a large-scale military conflict between Russia and NATO countries will be significantly reduced.

- summed up Zharov.

In turn, political scientist Sergei Markov thinks that with his "Ukrainian speech" the head of the Russian state shocked European leaders, who did not expect anything like that.

They believed that Putin would act like a gopnik, like a thief who wants to steal part of the territory of Ukraine. Putin, on the other hand, acts as a politician who is trying to comprehend the development trajectory of both Ukraine and Russia. Putin's speech is both an explanation of Russia's actions and a verdict on the Ukrainian elite - it is seen by Putin as traitors to his people

- he explained.

The expert noted that for the majority of citizens of Ukraine, it is the owner of the Kremlin who is the person who expresses their thoughts.

The tragedy of Putin is that he, as a philosopher on the throne, has practically no interlocutors - European policy are cultural dwarfs, and many of them are just political gopniks and temporary workers. Putin's speech is also an explanation of the crisis in which Europe found itself, because many European leaders abandoned European values ​​and culture, in fact, betrayed them

Markov summed up.
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  1. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
    Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 22 February 2022 16: 50
    -18
    Putin will act like a gopnik, like a thief who wants to steal part of the territory of Ukraine

    - well, what is - that is ... As they say - you can’t throw words out of a song.
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 22 February 2022 17: 05
      +8
      And now, from fierce anger, paint the trash can. In a yellow-blaky color scheme.
    2. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 22 February 2022 17: 15
      +5
      Wanted decommunization? receive and sign. They will take it back to the provinces, as before the communists.
    3. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
      Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 22 February 2022 17: 25
      +1
      you, pans, have one song, so that you don’t try to say - who doesn’t jump that Muscovite ...
      put you west on four bones and jump for a carrot, jump ...
    4. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 22 February 2022 17: 57
      -1
      - well, what is - that is ... As they say - you can’t throw words out of a song.

      But it’s easy to throw out the roguli. What is what is, otherwise they suddenly decided that it was all theirs, they didn’t guess to ask people’s opinions according to the old servile habit laughing
    5. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
      Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 22 February 2022 18: 12
      -4
      Judging by the comments, all those who answered agree with the first part about Putin ... About the song - disagreements arose ...
      1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
        Just a cat (Bayun) 22 February 2022 18: 19
        0
        I remember Professor Preobrazhensky trying to make a man out of psyakrev ... Communicated on the first human. The psyakrev tried to share someone else's apartment... But in the end, the psyakrev had to be returned to its rightful place... on the rug. What a bad professor. acted with representatives of the smaller brothers as a gopnik laughing Bulgakov wrote, and he was familiar with the people of Kiev ...
  2. Pandiurin Offline Pandiurin
    Pandiurin (Pandiurin) 22 February 2022 17: 13
    0
    Regarding the borders in which the LDNR was recognized, there is conflicting information from officials and various parliamentarians. Within the borders that the LDNR controls in fact (this is our Foreign Ministry represented by Lavrov) and within the borders that they controlled in 2014 and within the administrative boundaries of the regions, this is more than two times larger in area and includes Mariupol, is part of the Donetsk region.
    Representatives of the LDNR, of course, are talking about the administrative boundaries of the regions.

    Most interesting is Lavrov's position, it is the softest. If it turns out that all the same, recognition will take place in a strict version along administrative boundaries, then it will turn out that our Foreign Ministry is the weakest link, too toothless. I respect Lavrova, a professional with vast experience. But perhaps the situation has changed and tough people are needed in the Foreign Ministry, who by nature are not always looking for only a compromise solution.
    Lavrov is an excellent diplomat, but simply does not fit because of his mild diplomatic nature, in the new realities.
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 22 February 2022 17: 56
      -5
      And among the natives there is someone of the level of Pavlov or Tolstoy? who will sell the bowlers of local princes? Were not interested in how much the Russian budget will receive what is controlled in fact? I understand that the financial side of the issue for Russia is not of interest to the natives, as well as the lives of Russian soldiers. Historically, this has been the case.
  3. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 22 February 2022 18: 31
    0
    Quote: Pandiurin
    Lavrov is an excellent diplomat, but simply does not fit because of his mild diplomatic nature, in the new realities.

    Lavrov is now just the best fit. The President of the Russian Federation turned more to the Russian-speaking space, which is not entirely suitable as a message for the West. The West saw in the appeal Russia's desire to reconsider all the losses of the past that occurred due to the mistakes of the leadership of the USSR, Ukraine in general is a country of misunderstanding, in general, it caught up with fear that it will affect Europe's desire to hide behind the United States even more. NATO's cohesion by this message alone (not by recognition, but by appeal) will increase significantly. All this should be smoothed out by Lavrov and will reassure the Europeans.
    1. Pandiurin Offline Pandiurin
      Pandiurin (Pandiurin) 22 February 2022 20: 18
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      Quote: Siegfried
      Quote: Pandiurin
      Lavrov is an excellent diplomat, but simply does not fit because of his mild diplomatic nature, in the new realities.

      Lavrov is now just the best fit. The President of the Russian Federation turned more to the Russian-speaking space, which is not entirely suitable as a message for the West. The West saw in the appeal Russia's desire to reconsider all the losses of the past that occurred due to the mistakes of the leadership of the USSR, Ukraine in general is a country of misunderstanding, in general, it caught up with fear that it will affect Europe's desire to hide behind the United States even more. NATO's cohesion by this message alone (not by recognition, but by appeal) will increase significantly. All this should be smoothed out by Lavrov and will reassure the Europeans.

      If our Foreign Ministry has to communicate with boors, then only smoothing it out is not an option, sometimes you can, for example, ask to leave. It was possible to send the head of the British Foreign Office back to London saying that they are sending dialogue to keep people on an equal footing, and if Britain considers it possible to have an illiterate rude woman as a foreign minister, then Russia does not consider it possible to conduct a dialogue. Let them send literate and polite, if not literate, then those who will listen to what they are told.

      But the question is LDNR and borders.
      Russia recognizes them within the administrative boundaries of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions.
      This is a decided question, how it will be implemented militarily yet, within the framework of negotiations to begin with.

      Therefore, Lavrov's wobbling about what we recognize within the actual controlled borders of the LDNR looks rather strange. He has a very high position, access to information is supposed at the stage of making and preparing decisions. Those. should have known. If I did not want to voice about the administrative boundaries in which they recognized, then I would simply say that the issue is being worked out.

      Lavrov undermines Russia's position with such statements.
  4. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
    Kapany3 22 February 2022 19: 16
    0
    Quote: Just Cat
    And among the natives there is someone of the level of Pavlov or Tolstoy? who will sell the bowlers of local princes? Were not interested in how much the Russian budget will receive what is controlled in fact? I understand that the financial side of the issue for Russia is not of interest to the natives, as well as the lives of Russian soldiers. Historically, this has been the case.

    Since when do cats spit poison?
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