Putin announced the recognition of the independence of the DNR and LNR


Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed the Russians, in which he announced the recognition by Russia of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. The corresponding decree has been signed.


From now on, the Russian Federation considers the DPR and LPR to be independent state entities, independent of Kiev. This means that Moscow will be able to sign bilateral treaties and agreements with Lugansk and Donetsk, including those of a defense nature.



30 minutes before Vladimir Putin's address, the European Union called on Moscow to refuse recognition of the Donbass republics. Brussels also warned Belarus that it would lose its sovereignty if Russia recognizes the LNR and the DNR.

Meanwhile, an emergency meeting of the National Security Council is currently taking place in Kiev.
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  1. Volga073 Offline Volga073
    Volga073 (MIKLE) 21 February 2022 22: 43
    -4
    They fooled the fool into 4 fists)))
    1. Vladimir Daetoya (Vladimir Daetoya) 22 February 2022 07: 55
      0
      Putin does not think not to surrender Donbas:
      https://tsargrad.tv/news/ujmite-kiev-rossija-vynesla-chjotkoe-preduprezhdenie-zapadu_499622
      He's just teasing ukrov - they say don't swallow, we'll get everything.
  2. faiver Offline faiver
    faiver (Andrei) 21 February 2022 22: 49
    +5
    Meanwhile, an emergency meeting of the National Security Council is currently taking place in Kiev.

    - and sho?
    1. tagil Offline tagil
      tagil (Sergei) 21 February 2022 22: 53
      +10

      They are thinking how to run, the western owners have forbidden flying over litaks over 404, so they are thinking on which chassis to attach themselves to.
  3. tagil Offline tagil
    tagil (Sergei) 21 February 2022 22: 58
    +9
    Putin said everything correctly and truly, it’s a pity that so much time has been lost, although I understand everything, but ....... better late than never. Most likely we will not liberate the entire former outskirts, but Donbass certainly. Although stupid Ukrainians are smart enough to hit the nearest Russian city with a point or a hurricane. Then 404 will definitely remain only in history forever. Like the clown, the last spinner of Ukrainians.
    1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
      Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 21 February 2022 23: 16
      +6
      Putin said everything correctly and truly, it’s a pity that so much time has been lost, although I understand everything, but ....... better late than never.

      They just hoped to the last that France and Germany would enlighten Ukraine, but once again it was confirmed that these were wolves in sheep's clothing, who cannot be trusted and for whom this massacre was very beneficial. And so everything is clear and on the shelves, the Commander-in-Chief laid out, who does not know his history has no future
      1. tagil Offline tagil
        tagil (Sergei) 21 February 2022 23: 22
        +5
        It's just that Ukrainians with their DRG made Russia a ROYAL GIFT. Now not a single Western and Anglo-Saxon mongrel can say that Russia, under a far-fetched pretext, attacked poor and innocent Ukraine.
        1. Muscool Offline Muscool
          Muscool (Glory) 22 February 2022 08: 19
          -1
          Can someone explain to me why they came to us?
  4. Bakht Offline Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 21 February 2022 23: 12
    0
    I think that Ukraine will ask for help from Western countries (primarily the US and Poland) to protect the country. It is possible that American troops will appear not only in the western regions of Ukraine, but throughout the entire territory.
    1. tagil Offline tagil
      tagil (Sergei) 21 February 2022 23: 23
      +2
      After the destruction of the Ukrainian DRG on Russian territory, the world will not understand this. This crap will not be justified later.
      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 21 February 2022 23: 30
        0
        Can you list a list of countries that do not approve (to put it mildly) Russia's decision?
        The decision on the borders of the LDNR will be made tomorrow at the Federation Council. Is the result predictable? And what to do? Start an attack on the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
        I am sure that the Russian army will crush the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But once you take the first step, you have to go all the way. Since we went for the recognition of the LDNR, then we must already destroy the Armed Forces of Ukraine and go at least as far as the Dnieper.
        And at the request of the LEGAL government of Ukraine (Syria is an example for you), American troops will appear there.
        And if everything is limited only to Donetsk and Lugansk, then say goodbye to Novorossiya. And Ukraine. And get American missiles on the border with Russia.
        Now the only hope is that Russia will be able to destroy Ukraine as a state. So far, I see no other options that are beneficial for Russia.
        1. tagil Offline tagil
          tagil (Sergei) 21 February 2022 23: 49
          +3
          Well, they will not approve the flag in their hands. Tell me, what will NATO members do if they are told that if at least one Russian soldier dies at their hands, strikes will be inflicted on countries that have provided their troops to protect a terrorist state (do not forget what saboteurs are intended for)? In my opinion, Putin just said that Russia will ensure its security without paying attention to the Anglo-Saxon and Western howls.
        2. Bloshka Offline Bloshka
          Bloshka (Konstantin) 22 February 2022 04: 06
          +2
          May America not send troops into a puppet state when America's very existence is at stake. Sanctions will be imposed, they will be disconnected from the sfift, as a result, everything will be bought for rubles.
      2. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 21 February 2022 23: 33
        -2
        According to the DRG. I know that the Ukrainian media cannot be trusted. As well as the official statements of the Ukrainian side. But didn’t anything alert you personally in the video clip shown? Didn't it seem strange?
        1. tagil Offline tagil
          tagil (Sergei) 21 February 2022 23: 54
          +3
          No, it didn’t seem, the only video was compressed in time. At first they showed burning infantry fighting vehicles immediately after destruction, in the future they burn after the detonation of the ammunition, and this is a spread in time. But it normal. I can’t say anything about the corpses and the prisoner, but Putin clearly said that a prisoner was captured, and this can only happen to an enemy soldier (in general, saboteurs are illegal and they are not listed in the Geneva Convention).
          1. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 21 February 2022 23: 56
            -3
            Is it winter or spring in the Rostov region now?
            1. tagil Offline tagil
              tagil (Sergei) 21 February 2022 23: 59
              +3
              What are you getting at? If to green foliage, then this is not an indicator. Our grass is already green and the trees are waking up. According to the calendar, winter is actually spring. It's always warm there. And what confuses you in green pines or fir-trees?
              1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 03
                -2
                Exactly to this. Today I watched a video of Ukrainian soldiers near Novoazovsk. There is not a single leaf on any bush.
                But that's none of my business. It just seemed strange to me. According to hydrometeorological reports in that area, the temperature at night is 0 degrees, in the daytime +4. Precipitation 1,2 mm.
                I just expressed my doubt. Maybe it really is spring.
                1. tagil Offline tagil
                  tagil (Sergei) 22 February 2022 00: 05
                  +3
                  You did not pay attention to the trees, these are Christmas trees in my opinion. Well, they are always green, the soil is sandy, the snow was washed away by the rains.
                  1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 05
                    -4
                    Yes, mostly conifers. But there are also deciduous trees.
                    1. tagil Offline tagil
                      tagil (Sergei) 22 February 2022 00: 07
                      +2
                      I watched the video again, there are no deciduous trees in the video.
                      1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 10
                        -1
                        It seems to me that at the 29th second there is
                      2. tagil Offline tagil
                        tagil (Sergei) 22 February 2022 00: 14
                        0
                        No, these are pine trees, so they always put up a Christmas tree for the new year, it is straight, and if it is not a ship’s pine, it can grow as God puts it on the soul.
                      3. Bakht Offline Bakht
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 15
                        -1
                        I won't argue. I just expressed my doubt.
                      4. tagil Offline tagil
                        tagil (Sergei) 22 February 2022 00: 17
                        0
                        It just makes no sense to fake the video, because the captured prisoner and the corpses have not gone anywhere, you can always identify and the autopsy will indicate the time of death.
                      5. Bakht Offline Bakht
                        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 18
                        -3
                        It's right. But Russia has always lost the information war.
                      6. tagil Offline tagil
                        tagil (Sergei) 22 February 2022 00: 21
                        0
                        You know, in our army they banned the use of phones and cameras, Ukrainians do not have this. So you can always find a "hero" in uniform and a description of his "heroic deeds" on the Internet. Plus, such people are tracked, as if he is not a conscript, then information on them is available.
                      7. tulip Offline tulip
                        tulip 22 February 2022 04: 16
                        +2
                        Russia does not care what they say about it in the West in the media - they always say only invented bad things. So you can be glad that you won the information war - Russia will be glad that she just won)))
  • alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
    alexxnumx (Alexander) 21 February 2022 23: 30
    +4
    Nobody because of Ukraine will fight with the most powerful nuclear power, which also has a nuclear triad and powerful electronic warfare equipment - understand this!
    Poland will send Ukrainians and the United States will not interfere either. Their entire fleet will sink to the bottom very quickly, and the aircraft carriers will not be able to approach the operational distance.
    Zelensky lost to Ukraine
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 21 February 2022 23: 31
      -4
      They will not fight. At the request of President Zelensky and the decision of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, NATO countries will deploy troops throughout the country. The account went to the clock. Whoever wins the tempo wins the kings.
      1. alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
        alexxnumx (Alexander) 21 February 2022 23: 54
        +3
        This is a direct military clash with Russia. This is insanely dangerous - for Russia is not Serbia
        Their latest aircraft are easy targets for Russian air defenses.
        Because of Ukraine, they won’t go to war - they don’t just have an overwhelming advantage, but even just their grouping is weaker - these are colossal losses.
        None of the major powers will want to carry them from
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 12
          0
          You don't want to hear me. This is not a clash with Russia. Neither the Americans will fight the Russians, nor the Russians with the Americans.
          If, at the request of the legitimate government of Ukraine, the 82nd US division lands in Kharkov, will Russian troops drive it out? Will Russia, in your words, want to fight with the most powerful nuclear power?
          I'm saying that the one who keeps the pace wins. And the bill is literally on the clock. Whoever enters first wins.
          1. 1_2 Offline 1_2
            1_2 (Ducks are flying) 22 February 2022 00: 23
            +1
            you hear Putin's words and yesterday's ICBM salvos))
          2. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 00: 42
            +2
            If, at the request of the legitimate government of Ukraine, the 82nd US division lands in Kharkov,

            Will land? Division? On parachutes or what?)).
            But what if the entire Ukrainian sky is closed in front of their noses, and even the airfields are suddenly damaged or already occupied by Russian paratroopers? (as in Pristina)
            1. Bakht Offline Bakht
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 46
              +1
              I told you the clock counts. Gaining momentum is everything now. "Whoever got up first - that and slippers."
              I read the news. According to some websites, there was information that a hasty evacuation of Ukronazis began in the cities in the East of Ukraine. But this has not been officially confirmed yet. At the same time, there are reports that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have stepped up shelling of Donbass.

              And officially, just now "Putin instructed the Russian army to ensure peace in the DNR and LNR"
              https://lenta.ru/news/2022/02/22/peace/

              How exactly will the RF Armed Forces ensure peace? Just sending troops to the territory of the LDNR is not enough. It is necessary to smash the APU. And the faster the better.
              1. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 01: 01
                +1
                I told you the clock counts.

                I do not think. NATO is a very bureaucratic structure. Decisions are made hard and slowly. For a war against such a swift adversary as Russia, it is practically helpless.
                Remember how long it took NATO to assemble a group for the bombing of Serbia? For three months, only equipment was placed in position. Same with Iraq & Co. Russia will not give them such a gift.
                1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                  Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 01: 08
                  0
                  Hope so. Apparently, Russian troops will already be on the Dnieper by morning. Now the main thing is not to stop. The Rubicon has already been crossed.
                  1. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 01: 18
                    +1
                    Now the main thing is not to stop. The Rubicon has already been crossed.

                    Haven't started yet.)

                    In fact, apparently (as Putin himself said) - everything is going according to plan.
                    It seems to me that the following will happen next: The recognized republics will demand from Ukraine the return of their regional territories. If, for good, they are not returned to them, they will be recaptured. Russia will provide them with all kinds of military-technical support, up to the delivery of remote strikes, without its own penetration into Ukrainian territory. (but it shouldn't be ruled out either...)
                    First, everything will end with the return of the regional territories. But if Ukraine gets on the rampage, then it will have to be flattened by an adult. Further it will be seen.
                    There may be another option - other areas are activated following the example of the LDNR .. I hope their path will be shorter than that of the Donbass.
                    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 01: 41
                      +1
                      There may be another option - other areas are activated following the example of the LDNR.

                      It would be a good option.
          3. alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
            alexxnumx (Alexander) 22 February 2022 00: 48
            +1
            Russian troops have already entered :)) well, you give - they were on the march
            Then there, apparently completely stoned saboteurs in the amount of 5 people decided to attack Russia - what did they think of a breakthrough with two armored personnel carriers ???
            They were only waiting for the signing of documents - all the troops had already entered
            What do you think, just because the scouts flew from NATO? - THEY looked, appreciated and crap
            Yes - if the Americans rock the boat - then they will be buried there - we are on our own land, and they are strangers here
            They couldn’t even hold Iraq and they can’t press Iran
            Have you forgotten how their ships fled from the Black Sea when they turned off their electronics with electronic warfare?
            Then their sailors began to leave the service from this ship
            Understand - the US only fights a weak enemy and only when they have an overwhelming advantage
            Let's remember how in the Second World War in Germany the German army tumbled the amyrikos so that they flew upside down
            Do you think in all seriousness now they have become much bolder? They will grab such July there! It will be such a shame from the army - they will not allow this - there will be economic sanctions, perhaps they will cut off sales markets for Russia - I don’t know, but I repeat - here the stakes are higher than sanctions for Russia
          4. tulip Offline tulip
            tulip 22 February 2022 04: 20
            0
            nobody cares about what the "legitimate government of Ukraine" asks)) They can ask to land at least 100 NATO divisions, at least strike at Moscow with nuclear weapons, at least attack Russia - no one in the West will consider these requests seriously. NATO embassies and citizens are being evacuated - what kind of NATO soldiers near Kharkov? Forget it))) Your project Ukraine is slamming shut, learn to fly on aircraft chassis))))
      2. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 00: 09
        +2
        NATO will send troops to the entire territory of the country. The account went to the clock.

        Do not forget that "the entire territory of the country" is about 600 thousand square meters. km. How many real NATO forces do you think are concentrated today, on the border with Ukraine, and besides, they are capable of “introducing” themselves at least somewhere in “hours” (!) (not to mention the entire territory)?
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 14
          -1
          They don't need to occupy the country. It is enough to put one soldier in the city. It is said that King Leonid sent only one Spartan to help the allies. It was enough
          1. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 00: 25
            +3
            They don't need to occupy the country. It is enough to put one soldier in the city. It is said that King Leonid sent only one Spartan to help the allies. It was enough

            Fatherly cuffs will be given to this "Spartan", disarmed, and sent home on the first civilian flight - to mother.)

            Bakhtiyar, I'm right, I stopped recognizing you.) You always expressed your thoughts in such an interesting way.

            The West (USA and EU) hastened to announce sanctions. But they wanted to introduce them only in the event of a Russian invasion.
            They will bring in, and then there will be nothing to scare.. Here is the green light for you to actually bring in Russian troops, with the subsequent destruction of Ukrainian statehood.
            And NATO was not going to fight against Russia. The gut is thin, so that she would really take risks for the sake of it is not clear who.
            1. Bakht Offline Bakht
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 35
              0
              Wait and see.
              Take Donbass is good. But losing Novorossia (especially all of Ukraine) is not something that is bad. It's horrible.
              Sanctions are not the worst. Russia will survive the sanctions. It will be hard, but it's not the worst. And the war, as such, is also unlikely to happen. There will be a division of Ukraine. But where this very border will pass - this is the "moment of truth".
              I hope that the West will get only a few areas. But I'm not going to predict. I do not believe the Anglo-Saxon assurances that their soldiers will not enter the territory of Ukraine.
              1. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 00: 54
                +1
                Take Donbass is good. But losing Novorossia (especially all of Ukraine) is not something that is bad.

                Here you are again about “taking”, but here so far you have only “recognised”.)

                Sanctions are not the worst.

                It’s not even the sanctions themselves that are terrible, namely, as a threat. The threat of the unknown. And when they are already introduced, then this threat loses all its meaning. The search for the leveling of these sanctions begins, and sooner or later it is found. The state that won the sanctions becomes many times stronger. Russia has a huge potential, therefore, sooner or later, any, the toughest sanctions, will win.

                There will be a division of Ukraine.

                Maybe. We'll see.
                1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                  Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 59
                  +2
                  "Recognized" and "taken" at the moment are synonymous.

                  I feel like I'm being misunderstood. It's from euphoria.

                  My position is that Ukraine as a state is anti-Russia. This is the enemy of Russia. Not people. It is the state. And if it ceases to exist, then I will not cry. My fears are connected only with the possibility of losing this territory. And people, of course.
                  Therefore, if the decision to recognize the LDNR is made, then we must go to the end. And the faster the better. Pace is the most important thing at this stage.
                  One more thing. Fear does not mean that I am afraid of something. This is a precaution. Axiom
                  "any battle, until it is won, must be considered lost." It will be possible to throw bonnets into the air according to the results of the entire operation. Not initial success.
                  1. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 01: 08
                    +2
                    My fears are connected only with the possibility of losing this territory. And people, of course.

                    I think if everything comes to a big war, then in the end everyone will remain with their “historical territories”. Western Ukraine will go to the west (Poland, Hungary, Romania), and eastern Ukraine will return to Russia. Ethnically there's no problem, so...
                    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 01: 10
                      0
                      I hope there will be no war. Western will go to Europe. It was understandable. Although I hoped for the whole of Ukraine. The main thing is that everything else remains with Russia.
                    2. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 01: 32
                      +1
                      I hope there will be no war. Western will go to Europe. It was understandable. Although I hoped for the whole of Ukraine.

                      Not .. without a war, there will be no partition .. a precedent is needed for the partition. Otherwise, how will the West explain that it is tearing apart the “sovereign state” declared by it?)

                      All Ukraine? And why does Russia need territories with ethnic groups inhabiting it, eternally hostile to it? There is their (these ethnic groups) land, they have always lived there, let them go home with it (with their land).

                      By the way, there is another meaning to give the same part of western Ukraine to the Poles. This would give the Germans a reason to regain their eastern lands taken by the Poles following the results of the Second World War.
                    3. Bakht Offline Bakht
                      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 01: 44
                      0
                      Poles have always had eyes larger than their stomachs. But the Germans are unlikely to change the borders. Moreover, the Poles are loyal vassals of Washington and they have a missile defense base. And there are rumors that they want to transfer nuclear bombs from Germany to Poland. So the Americans will not let Poland offend.
                    4. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 08: 59
                      +1
                      But the Germans are unlikely to change the borders.

                      Now they will definitely not go, but in the future, in the future, in the perspective of a (very) possible collapse (or reformatting) of the EU, they will definitely remind the Poles of their historical lands.

                      The Poles are loyal vassals of Washington and they have a missile defense base.

                      Time heals everything. And the Poles will be cured.)
                      The Poles cannot be faithful a priori. These are corrupt little souls, they always adapt to the surrounding situation. Now the United States has strength, the Poles are in their sixes. We'll see what happens tomorrow.)
  • 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 22 February 2022 00: 22
    0
    if you’re one of the Svidomos, I advise you not to dream about entering NATO, these roosters have drawn a red line on the western border, you can already say the former Ukraine, if they cross it, NATO will disappear, the Russian Federation is not the Taliban from which the Americans fled, the Russian Federation can destroy NATO without even using ICBMs, enough calibers with apple
  • tulip Offline tulip
    tulip 22 February 2022 04: 14
    0
    no American or French soldier will die for Bandera, do not flatter yourself))) They did not come to fight for the Bandera Crimea and they will not come here. They’ll hang around a bit, introduce another batch of “hellish” sanctions and that’s it)))
  • Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 21 February 2022 23: 13
    -12
    Mother dear! What an idiocy! A whole hour! And eight years! Rave!
    No, well, the right immersion in history. Well, was it worth it? An hour to listen to Putin? And eight years of war? It was interesting. But one hour against eight years of war !!!! This is zashkvar!
    God save us from such a surgeon, for example! Can you imagine such a miracle there will be appendicitis, for example, while cutting out a lecture for an hour to read! wassat What if the appendicitis resolves in the last seconds! wink laughing
  • steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 21 February 2022 23: 25
    -12
    Rotten performance. It was disgusting to listen to. It turns out that Lenin and Stalin are to blame for the fact that Bandera rule in Ukraine. He called 1917 a coup d'état, and recognized the coup in Ukraine in 2014. He did not say a single filthy word about Hunchback and EBN. With such views, he needs to act in the US Congress as EBN, and not in Russia.



    And again Putin is in his repertoire. Never finishes the job. Well, you said you did! And within what limits? If within the borders of the LDNR, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine are already occupiers and must get out of the occupied territories. Then it is necessary to put an ultimatum or immediately hit the sopatka, as in a "gateway", so that they roll back far far away. And again a question. Is Putin afraid to go to the end? Or will he rejoice like a gopnik who snatched a piece? In fact, nothing is over yet!
    1. alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
      alexxnumx (Alexander) 21 February 2022 23: 34
      +2
      You were not recognized initially - and your Bandera fascist government too. This has been said many times
      But they also tried to somehow resolve issues peacefully, but your clown lost the whole country the other day
      And the territories that you own were given to you by Russia at different times - but you don’t appreciate the good - know the club now
    2. 1_2 Offline 1_2
      1_2 (Ducks are flying) 22 February 2022 00: 25
      0
      UPAstan collapses like a house of cards, an example of Afghanistan
    3. The comment was deleted.
  • alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
    alexxnumx (Alexander) 21 February 2022 23: 31
    +1
    Zelensky lost Ukraine - now where are his jokes?
    1. Bakht Offline Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 21 February 2022 23: 34
      -2
      Who did Zelensky lose Ukraine to? It will become clear in a couple of days.
      1. alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
        alexxnumx (Alexander) 21 February 2022 23: 43
        0
        His military offensive in the LDNR is the beginning of the end - the United States does not need you if you cannot harm Russia. The economy is working for war, now you have cut off the water in the LDNR, and they will cut off all the resources that you received - for example, fuel - they will defeat your scumbags and now you will get strong discontent inside the country - pieces will be pulled away from you - for example, Transcarpathia will separate, you will lose Odessa
        1. Bakht Offline Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 00
          -1
          God bless. But I'm afraid that things will be much worse than you think.
          This is Zatulin's speech 6 days ago
          https://www.mk.ru/politics/2022/02/15/konstantin-zatulin-priznanie-dnr-i-lnr-razvyazyvaet-ukraine-ruki.html

          And this is the speech of the same Zatulin today
          https://www.mk.ru/politics/2022/02/21/zatulin-priznaniem-dnr-i-lnr-delo-mozhet-ne-ogranichitsya.html

          I, like Zatulin, believe that once such a decision has been made, it is necessary to act to the end. Recognition of the LDNR is war. And not a war in eastern Ukraine, but a war between Russia and Ukraine. I will repeat once again. I fear the appearance of Americans and British in Kharkov, Odessa, etc. All over Ukraine. When the Americans or the Angles said that they would not send soldiers to Ukraine, I did not believe them.
          Let's see tomorrow what steps will be taken.
          1. alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
            alexxnumx (Alexander) 22 February 2022 00: 17
            0
            You'll see - the United States does not even rock the boat. The Armed Forces of Ukraine urgently need to withdraw the troops, otherwise the situation will worsen and Ukraine needs to abandon NATO altogether - but you need to have the strength to suppress Kolomoisky’s thugs - in general, this will not happen - the war will apparently continue and then they will get very well in the neck
            But then Russia will already drink the cup to the bottom - Of course, this is an increase in prices within the country, this is as a result of sanctions on the debt market - it will be tough
            On the other hand, there was nowhere to retreat - it was necessary to solve the issue of Russia's security - since the bases are close at hand, it is very dangerous - you need a buffer to have time to answer and intercept
            Therefore, Russia will go to the bank to the end - the United States understands this and will not climb
            1. Bakht Offline Bakht
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 22 February 2022 00: 30
              -1
              God forbid I'm wrong. We'll find out in a couple of days.
          2. 1_2 Offline 1_2
            1_2 (Ducks are flying) 22 February 2022 00: 27
            +1
            you, as an "officer's daughter", are afraid of decisive actions by the Russian army, not war))
  • alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
    alexxnumx (Alexander) 22 February 2022 00: 02
    +3
    Yushchenko left Ukraine, almost the entire faction of Tymoshenko, Lytvyn. Biden also proposes the evacuation of Zelensky --- well, let's run already
    1. 1_2 Offline 1_2
      1_2 (Ducks are flying) 22 February 2022 00: 28
      0
      Banderstan will collapse like the pro-Western regime of Afghanistan))
  • shiva Offline shiva
    shiva (Ivan) 22 February 2022 00: 48
    0
    Well, everything, now Khan - we are waiting for sanctions. Windows will stop updating, McDuck and KFC will be closed, Coca-Cola will be banned, you can forget about cigarettes and whiskey. Schools will forbid learning English, and in spite of them we will learn Chinese...
    One fool from the European Parliament wondered why Gazprom does not supply more gas, since prices are so high? And everything is simple - in the geyropa, the storages are empty, try to quarrel with Russia now ...
    Scholz should have been told a long time ago - if a war starts in Ukraine, we will launch sp-2. Then Bidon would have thought a hundred times. And not vice versa. Fool, instead of two pipes he will not get one, and his freezing burghers and industrialists will eat him with a ram.
  • Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 22 February 2022 00: 49
    0
    To be honest, I have a mixed feeling from the president's speech. If the goal was to announce the beginning of the Cold War, then understandable. But if the goal was to justify this step and minimize the consequences, then somehow ...
    Historical retreats, the collapse of the USSR, all this looked in some kind of neo-imperial dimension, which, for example, the German media took as evidence of Russian plans to "collect the lost lands."

    In fact, the speech was only from the perspective of Russian interests. The fact that the inhabitants of Donbass have been living in a black box for 7 years, that the West has allowed a European country to shell civilians with impunity for 7 years, thereby becoming an accomplice. That the West did not care about these people for 7 years, there was very little or nothing about this. Russia actually has a reason for such a step, and this reason is in moral and human values, from which the West has cynically moved away. All this could be clearly shown, there is no need to invent anything. But unfortunately, the message turned out - the empire corrects the mistakes of the past. But if the goal is an aggravation or a prologue to further steps, then, of course, as it is.

    As one German commentator aptly pointed out, Russia has reached out to a generation that has almost passed away in Ukraine. Those young and middle-aged Ukrainians have a completely different picture in their heads. You can't convince them with nostalgia for the USSR. That part about Ukraine, corruption and dependence on the oligarchs and the West, went well. There could have been more of this and more prospects for Ukraine from friendship with Russia, about which, unfortunately, not a word either.

    By the way, the sanctions of the West are somehow ridiculous, they are directed against the recognized republics. Perhaps the West and Russia had an agreement and all that movement in recent days is just a show.
    1. tulip Offline tulip
      tulip 22 February 2022 04: 25
      0
      yes, there is no other picture for young and average Ukrainians, no need for mriy))) Judging by how the annual conscription to the Armed Forces of Ukraine failed, none of the young and average Ukrainians wants to fight for Bandera. Even in the west of Ukraine, military registration and enlistment offices could not get 50%))) So young and average Ukrainians, too, although they should live and not fight for some kind of united and indivisible Ukraine)))
    2. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 14: 32
      +2
      By the way, the sanctions of the West are somehow ridiculous, they are directed against the recognized republics. Perhaps the West and Russia had an agreement and all that movement in recent days is just a show.

      I think that, of course, the West will not limit itself to these sanctions. In any case, there will be attempts to win back at SP 2. (Which for the West, too, is a shot in one's own leg). Maybe they will intimidate SWIFT for persuasiveness .. And the Kremlin seems to be mentally ready for both. Therefore, as the dumb say: in Kauf genommen.
      I don't believe in an agreement.
      There was just a convulsive attempt by the West to talk about the topic of "Putin's ultimatum" and take it in a different direction, reducing it to the scale of the "Ukrainian problem."
      That is, in fact, they sacrificed Ukraine, in the hope that the topic of the “ultimatum” will be blown away on this.
      Russia simply could not fail to take advantage of such a gift. The LDNR was recognized with lightning speed, which did not prevent Putin in yesterday's speech from reminding the West of the main topic of the "ultimatum". The West realized that with the "victim" fooled. Tightened up. Think.)
      Therefore, the West is in no hurry with sanctions. They do not know what kind of trap they have prepared.
      And for today - an obvious (and regular) 1:0 in favor of Putin.
  • alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
    alexxnumx (Alexander) 22 February 2022 00: 52
    0
    Quote: Bakht
    They don't need to occupy the country. It is enough to put one soldier in the city. It is said that King Leonid sent only one Spartan to help the allies. It was enough

    HAHAAA - okay, but what then did the observers dump as much as their heels sparkled?
    In short, a Spartan and an American are generally different concepts and people. Americans are definitely not Spartans from the word at all :)
    Have you seen enough to save Private Ryan? :)
  • Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
    Roma Phil (Roma) 22 February 2022 01: 42
    +2
    Never finishes the job. Well, you said you did! And within what limits?

    ..The head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Vladimir Kolokoltsev, said that it is necessary to recognize the "LDNR" within "historical borders" - that is, within the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. The same was stated by the commander of the National Guard Valery Zolotov. And, according to him, you need to "go further." Where - did not say. But, apparently, he had in mind that he needed to go further to Ukraine. As Zolotov said, for the time being it is being pumped with conventional weapons, but in the future - with nuclear weapons.
  • alexxnumx Offline alexxnumx
    alexxnumx (Alexander) 22 February 2022 01: 57
    0
    The White House confirmed that the US has no plans to send troops to Ukraine. At the same time, they stressed that they could not promise that the Biden-Putin meeting would take place at a time when Russia appeared to be preparing for military action.
    --- Well, that's all - who was talking about the Spartans and believed that America would help with the troops ???
    This is all propaganda brainwashed you and you believed in NATO so much. USA and so on and where are your allies?
    Here they will introduce economic sanctions - well, yes /
    Do you know what else they include? - Confiscation of stolen capital from your oligarchs, you need to somehow reimburse the costs to your fascist regime
  • Roma Phil Offline Roma Phil
    Roma Phil (Roma) 22 February 2022 02: 22
    +2
    Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said that the European Union "tomorrow or the day after tomorrow" will decide on the imposition of sanctions against Russia for recognizing both "people's republics" of Donbass.
    And European officials are telling Western agencies that the EU will not impose sanctions against Russia in connection with the recognition of the "LDNR" not immediately, because it wants to see Moscow's next steps.

    It is likely that Moscow will respond to EU and US sanctions with new advances of Russian troops to the Crimean peninsula. They give us sanctions, and in response, the new territories of Ukraine will be included in the borders of the republics recognized by Russia.
    1. Vladimir Daetoya (Vladimir Daetoya) 22 February 2022 06: 59
      +1
      The more they put pressure on Russia, the more they squeeze liberals out of Russian power. The more stable and promising our economy and our future.
  • Dmitry Suslov Offline Dmitry Suslov
    Dmitry Suslov (Dmitry Suslov) 22 February 2022 03: 05
    +2
    TODAY, namely February 21, 2022 at 22.40. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the Recognition of the LDNR. THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING!!!
    For me personally, this is a significant day! I was born in 1971 in the Lugansk region (then Voroshilovgrad). In 1994 he moved to live in the Russian Federation in St. Petersburg, but the Lugansk region remained in my Heart the Small Motherland. I wish my countrymen to stand up in the fight against the Devil's gang in / in Ukraine! New Russia must be reborn from the ashes of History and raise the Flag over the entire Russian territory temporarily occupied by the Bandera trash. Live Donbass!!!
    Satanists and other creatures from the US and the EU and liberal mongrels from the local trash, headed by the shaggy Devil Venediktov, will now attack Russia ... But Russia DOESN'T DO SHIT on them, because we are MUCH!!!
  • gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 22 February 2022 05: 37
    -3
    - Oops, lost time again...
    - The heads of these new states of the LNR and DNR should have been here ;' without leaving the room where the signing of bilateral agreements with Russia (recognizing the independence of the DPR and LPR) took place - literally right here and immediately turn to Russia about Russia providing them (LPR and DPR) with military assistance !!!
    - And Russia immediately had to send troops to the territory of Novorossia ... - And moreover - as a result of the huge danger posed by the Ukrainian Armed Forces of Ukraine - immediately begin the advance of Russian troops across the territory of Ukraine - in order to occupy the area - up to the Dnieper ( and the whole Odessa region, etc.)...
    - With the landing of the Airborne Forces, the advancement of motorized infantry and tank troops and the active participation of the Russian Navy; with the occupation of airports, seaports and other communication facilities and points ... and
    - But - of course - nothing of the kind will be done - time will be uselessly dragged out ... - Ukraine will come to its senses very quickly; will receive help and support ... - And ... and ... and it will turn out - "as always" - a lot of things will simply lose their meaning and go into another very difficult phase of the confrontation "Russia-Ukraine" ....
    - We must act very quickly - until Ukraine is accepted into NATO ...
    - After all, now (after the rejection of the LNR and DNR) Ukraine no longer has "disputed territories" and it can be accepted into NATO without any delay !!!
    - And all efforts will become meaningless again ...
    1. Vladimir Daetoya (Vladimir Daetoya) 22 February 2022 06: 54
      -1
      Putin has such a property - to correct his mistakes only after he is convinced that they were disastrous enough for the Russian population. Then he does everything correctly and humanely. But it's better that way than vice versa, as Gorbachev and Yeltsin did.
      1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) 22 February 2022 07: 03
        -4
        Putin has such a property - to correct his mistakes only after he is convinced that they were disastrous enough for the Russian population.

        - There is a Russian proverb:

        - He took up the tug - don't say that it's not a dozen ...

        But, alas, it always turns out:

        Do not sit on a stump - do not eat a pie ...
    2. Sergey Pavlenko Offline Sergey Pavlenko
      Sergey Pavlenko (Sergey Pavlenko) 22 February 2022 07: 41
      -1
      Well, apparently, after such a statement, you can definitely be invited as a presidential adviser on security ....
  • Vladimir Daetoya (Vladimir Daetoya) 22 February 2022 06: 48
    +1
    We are waiting for the next package of Teutonic sanctions against the enemies of the people.
    1. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
      gorenina91 (Irina) 22 February 2022 07: 08
      -3
      We are waiting for the next package of Teutonic sanctions against the enemies of the people

      - That's it - everything is just for the sake of sanctions; which, supposedly - will make us stronger - because. we ourselves (of our own free will) cannot become stronger ...
      - Damn - a solid sect of "whips-masochists" - only under someone's pressure Russia is forced to do something for itself - towards improvement ...
  • Igor Igorevich Semirechensky 22 February 2022 07: 05
    0
    Old Testament roads have long been passed,
    But is their tragic lesson clear to everyone,
    That it is impossible to die for the Motherland
    For those who couldn't get it
    He will not bestow good on this world,
    Only sows evil, erecting profit in an idol,
    After all, the country was ohlam by Russia and donated,
    But like an ungrateful pig
    And under the ovs for the sake of profit lay down,
    And caused harm to Russia,
    Now Bandera degenerates are trembling,
    The militias of Donbass are taking revenge on them!
  • Sergey Pavlenko Offline Sergey Pavlenko
    Sergey Pavlenko (Sergey Pavlenko) 22 February 2022 07: 36
    -1
    It will be interesting to see if the dad recognizes these republics, or, as always, uses the moment when he comes for another squander for this?
  • Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 22 February 2022 07: 38
    0
    Brussels also warned Belarus that she will lose her sovereignty in case of recognition by Russia of the LPR and DPR.

    How's that?
  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 February 2022 09: 28
    -5
    Not bad. Played like clockwork.

    Indistinct small "offensives", without tanks and aircraft (like, 5 houses damaged)
    DRG, which for some reason almost rides on 2 armored personnel carriers openly for reconnaissance ... and which also died there

    And the result: recognition.

    A type of reconnaissance in combat.
    As a result, sanctions and confrontation will only strengthen them. But Kuzkina's mother!
    1. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 09: 39
      0
      DRG, which for some reason almost rides on 2 armored personnel carriers openly for reconnaissance ...

      Your next lie always begins, as if with minor trifles. Why are you distorting the facts?
      Two infantry fighting vehicles were sent to evacuate those already ambushed by the DRG.
      And oops!
      Immediately your petty tricky questions disappear by themselves. It is so?
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 February 2022 10: 18
        -5
        Did they read that in WW2 2 tanks were sent to evacuate scouts? yes across the border with Germany?

        what kind of saboteurs are these, and such an evacuation, across the border with 2 infantry fighting vehicles ....

        It's easier to remember Stirlitz with a parachute ...
        1. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 11: 05
          0
          Have you read

          Read. Which is what we sometimes recommend you do.

          As the department added, during the skirmish, two infantry fighting vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine entered the territory of Russia to evacuate saboteurs. Both BMPs were knocked out.

          https://ria.ru/amp/20220221/granitsa-1774091650.html

          Or do you have more detailed facts? (I'm not talking about your wild fantasies).
          1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
            Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 February 2022 13: 42
            -5
            Exactly.
            What saboteurs!!! such that they themselves enter Russia, and not in the LDNR, where, as it were, battles.
            They are pressed down, and they are sent across the border for them, without hiding (the boyto is already on the way), 2 infantry fighting vehicles, they are knocked out.

            This is cooler than in the joke about Stirlitz.
            There he just cracked Hitler's safe, but 2x T-34 support was not there.

            Well, since you read about this in WW2, that's great.
            1. Dear sofa expert. 22 February 2022 14: 11
              +1
              Exactly.
              What saboteurs!!! such that they themselves enter Russia, and not in the LDNR, where, as it were, battles.

              You take the globe in your hands and twist it. You may notice that all three territories border there at least in two places: Ukrainian, Donbass and Russian. Operating in such an area, the sabotage group during the battle, retreating, can easily be pushed back not to its own territory, but to someone else's (in this case, Russian). They most likely deliberately cut off the retreat routes to their territory, and drove them to the Russian one. There they were covered.
              And the fact that 2 infantry fighting vehicles were sent to evacuate them is quite a common practice for using these vehicles.
              I do not understand your misunderstanding, I apologize for the tautology.)