Ishchenko: The initiative to recognize Donbass is just another stage in the confrontation between the US and Russia

February 16 2022

On Tuesday, February 15, deputies of the Russian State Duma voted for a draft resolution on an appeal to the president regarding the recognition of the DPR and LPR. Many see this as the start of a process of recognition of the self-proclaimed republics of eastern Ukraine by Russia. Ukrainian and Russian political scientist Rostislav Ishchenko does not agree with such a formulation of the issue.

According to the expert, these processes began several years ago with the recognition by Russia of the documents and license plates of the LDNR. Further, Moscow decided to grant Russian citizenship to the residents of Donbass in a simplified manner. Thus, the inhabitants of the east of Ukraine, tired of the sluggish war, received an individual opportunity to integrate into the Russian Federation.

A number of analysts believe that the diplomatic recognition of the DPR and LPR will allow the deployment of Russian troops there and permanently resolve the issue of the security of these territories. However, according to Ishchenko, Russia can still use the right of "humanitarian intervention" and deploy its units there without prior permission from the UN (the Americans have done this many times). At the same time, the military should be used only in cases where there is no other alternative, and this does not weaken the geostrategic positions of the Russian Federation.

Thus, the Kremlin's official recognition of these republics "does not add or subtract anything." Meanwhile, the appeal of the Duma members to the president expands Russia's opportunities in the course of negotiations with the West. Since the recognition of the DNR and LNR will be the end of the Minsk agreements, the Kremlin may try to persuade the Western politicians not lead to such an outcome and push their "Ukrainian clients" to implement the Minsk format.

Recognition/non-recognition, like any other diplomatic and non-diplomatic steps, are only separate minor operations in the global confrontation between Russia and the United States, the elements of which are the Ukrainian and Donbas crises

- Rostislav Ishchenko noted in the material for the resource "Ukraine.ru".

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Online Marzhecki

Marzhecki (Sergei) 16 February 2022 19: 44

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However, according to Ishchenko, Russia can still use the right of "humanitarian intervention" and deploy its units there without prior permission from the UN (the Americans have done this many times).

Cool expert
1. Offline Bahadur
  
  Bahadur (Stanislas) 16 February 2022 21: 06
  
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  Yes.
  Rostislav Ishchenko is a cool expert.
  Unlike some of the aircraft carrier sect☺
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    Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 February 2022 07: 26
    
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    Rostislav Ishchenko is a cool expert.
    
    https://topcor.ru/23995-rossija-mozhet-vernut-ukrainu-bez-vojny-cherez-gumanitarnuju-intervenciju.html
    what is my irony
    IMHO, Ishchenko, as a political emigrant, just really wants to please the Russian audience and the authorities, so he says all sorts of nice things.
    
    Unlike some of the aircraft carrier sect☺
    
    P.S. anti-aircraft carriers, in my opinion, are not even a sect, but simply insane people who should be isolated from society and disconnected from the Internet.
2. Offline Fourth Horseman
  
  Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 16 February 2022 21: 44
  
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  Envy, bad feeling.
  1. Online Marzhecki
    
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 February 2022 07: 26
    
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    It's true. What, someone here is jealous of something? I wonder who and what exactly?
    1. Offline Fourth Horseman
      
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 17 February 2022 20: 57
      
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      Ishchenko, as a political emigrant, just really wants to please the Russian audience and the authorities.
      Well, what is it, if not envy?
      
      He is known to the general public, but is Marzhetsky situational?))
      He knows how to build logical chains, you often have bugs with this.
      You can agree or disagree with him. But he is better than you!
      Some kind of political immigrant.
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        Marzhecki (Sergei) 18 February 2022 09: 52
        
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        Ishchenko, as a political emigrant, just really wants to please the Russian audience and the authorities.
        Well, what is it, if not envy?
        
        What to envy? I have no goal to please anyone, so I am freer in my work. I feel sorry for him, to be honest. It can be seen that he is a fairly smart person, but he is forced to play up.
        
        He is known to the general public, but is Marzhetsky situational?))
        
        Well, I have a certain fame in narrow circles. Wide me unnecessarily, from the word at all. I am not a rock star, but a lawyer, journalist and aspiring political scientist.
        
        You can agree or disagree with him. But he is better than you!
        
        Nothing depends on his success or failure in my life. I'm just happy for him.
        
        He knows how to build logical chains, you often have bugs with this.
        
        Come on? Can I have a couple of examples?
        Maybe you have bugs in your head?
        
        P.S. I have already thrown off a link to the site of M. Khazin below, which is often referred to here. The funny thing is that Mikhail himself refers to me. Read at your leisure. I am translated and quoted abroad, moreover, in very serious offices.
        Even funnier is that Ishchenko himself apparently read my article on Reporter first. I posted the link above. This is evidenced by such a marker as the use of the phrase "humanitarian intervention", which is rather infrequently used in the context of Ukraine.
        However, what's the difference. Do not bother yourself.
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beeper 16 February 2022 23: 21

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Before that, with great difficulty and at the very last moment, having decided on "Crimea is ours" (only being forced to this by the inexorable "logic of events" of the inevitable shameful expulsion, in the most unthinkable terms, of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation from Sevastopol, accompanied by the Turkoman-Bandera massacre - the genocide of the Russian population of the peninsula, including many families of Russian military personnel), the Kremlin, having the initiative and with trump cards in its hands, as a result, itself mediocrely drove itself and the LDNR into the trap of the "Minsk agreements", from which, with honor, i.e. "having saved face", he still cannot get out (and it is unlikely that Western "partners" will give him such an opportunity now)!
I listened to this Ishchenko interview on YouTube - Rostislav is much more tolerant, streamlined, smooth, to say something pleasant for the authorities of the country of his residence (just like in the fairy tale of A.S. ... and you will listen, listening to the insinuating muttering of the "singer-storyteller" ), akin to conspiracy tales like him "about magical HPP".
To be honest, I, in the place of the Kremlin leaders, would bite my elbows with annoyance and would not know how to get out better if I drove from the winning position of "mate in two moves" into such a hopeless "zugzwang", and voluntarily and limply gave up the initiative " first move" hostile "our respected partners"!
Nevertheless, I was convinced more than once how true our folk saying about ourselves is:

Russians are strong in hindsight!

I think that V.V. Putin himself, who was “too clever” then, will agree with her, recalling how he happily rubbed his hands in anticipation of a “good deal”, and regrets that missed “chance out of a thousand” ...?!
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Alsur (Alexey) 17 February 2022 08: 52

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Quote: pishchak
Before that, with great difficulty and at the very last moment, having decided on "Crimea is ours" (only being forced to this by the inexorable "logic of events" of the inevitable shameful expulsion, in the most unthinkable terms, of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation from Sevastopol, accompanied by the Turkoman-Bandera massacre - the genocide of the Russian population of the peninsula, including many families of Russian military personnel), the Kremlin, having the initiative and with trump cards in its hands, as a result, itself mediocrely drove itself and the LDNR into the trap of the "Minsk agreements", from which, with honor, i.e. "having saved face", he still cannot get out (and it is unlikely that Western "partners" will give him such an opportunity now)!
I listened to this Ishchenko interview on YouTube - Rostislav is much more tolerant, streamlined, smooth, to say something pleasant for the authorities of the country of his residence (just like in the fairy tale of A.S. ... and you will listen, listening to the insinuating muttering of the "singer-storyteller" ), akin to conspiracy tales like him "about magical HPP".
To be honest, I, in the place of the Kremlin leaders, would bite my elbows with annoyance and would not know how to get out better if I drove from the winning position of "mate in two moves" into such a hopeless "zugzwang", and voluntarily and limply gave up the initiative " first move" hostile "our respected partners"!
Nevertheless, I was convinced more than once how true our folk saying about ourselves is:

Russians are strong in hindsight!

I think that V.V. Putin himself, who was “too clever” then, will agree with her, recalling how he happily rubbed his hands in anticipation of a “good deal”, and regrets that missed “chance out of a thousand” ...?!

There is no such saying among Russians: Russians are strong in hindsight!
Yes, Russians have such a notion that they are strong in hindsight, but this does not apply to a certain nationality, but to the quality of individuals, of any nationality. And what you wrote smacks of nationalism and is tantamount to the opinion that all Jews are cunning or greedy, etc.
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  beeper 17 February 2022 11: 02
  
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  Aka ALSur, eco, you immediately "carried over the bumps", right there, having personally "sniffed" - literally "sucked out of your finger", "Jews" were dragged impartially, do you have some kind of "fad" about nationalities ?!
  The topic of the article under discussion is about what ?!
  And for some reason you started to flood the wrong steppe?!
  PSIf you, aka ALSur, are obviously bad at knowing our Russian folklore, the meaning of Russian words (their synonyms) and are not familiar with Russian literary "classics", then what was stopping you before writing your hasty and absurd "comment ", elementary" google "is" such a concept (as you put it, probably slyly trying to "play with words" to justify your unfounded denial of the Russian proverb ?! )", are the authorities of your country really restricting you in this?!
  Read more Russian "classics" and increase your general erudition, aka ALSur, do not persist in your ignorance and do not broadcast it publicly - to the laughter of people, alas!
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    isofat (isofat) 17 February 2022 12: 20
    
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    You can argue endlessly, putting different meanings into Gogol's words.
    
    As for the desire to bite your elbows in the place of our leaders. I think you are mistaken, right now it is clearly visible that we were drawn into the war in Ukraine. And our leaders got the most out of that situation - Crimea. And no shooting!
    
    PS It is immodest of you to try on the clothes of a genius, and even bite your elbows at the same time.
    
    I understand your pain for what is happening in Ukraine and I share it. Today there is no republic that was torn away from Russia.
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      beeper 17 February 2022 14: 28
      
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      We touched on something too serious a topic, aka Isofat, I had a "glitch" on my smartphone and my detailed comment disappeared in response to yours.
      In principle, he would have "came out sideways" to me from both, Bandera and Russian, "competent" sides, and I'm already "zmerz yak tsutsyk", I click my teeth and my fingers are completely numb (maybe this piercing damp cold was the reason for the failure of the touch screen , heat-loving imported equipment does not stand up?) in my factory workshop to start writing in a new way (as I usually do in such cases).
      So, in short, "according to the meaning of Gogol's words" I did not argue and do not argue, because, basically, I write in my own words!
      And I don’t try on anyone’s “genius clothes (do you understand?!)”, but I write according to my own feelings - I don’t climb into someone else’s skull and don’t read “thinking”, there is a question mark at the end of the phrase, in front of an exclamation point, if you look closely!
      For your understanding of my long-standing Pain, I am sincerely grateful to you, aka Isofat!
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Alsur (Alexey) 17 February 2022 12: 09

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Quote: pishchak
Aka ALSur, eco, you immediately "carried over the bumps", right there, having personally "sniffed" - literally "sucked out of your finger", "Jews" were dragged impartially, do you have some kind of "fad" about nationalities ?!
The topic of the article under discussion is about what ?!
And for some reason you started to flood the wrong steppe?!
PSIf you, aka ALSur, are obviously bad at knowing our Russian folklore, the meaning of Russian words (their synonyms) and are not familiar with Russian literary "classics", then what was stopping you before writing your hasty and absurd "comment ", elementary" google "is" such a concept (as you put it, probably slyly trying to "play with words" to justify your unfounded denial of the Russian proverb ?! )", are the authorities of your country really restricting you in this?!
Read more Russian "classics" and increase your general erudition, aka ALSur, do not persist in your ignorance and do not broadcast it publicly - to the laughter of people, alas!

I just wrote that there is no such saying among Russians:
Russians are strong in hindsight!
Do you disagree with this or what is your question then. Maybe you will say that there is such a saying among Russians.
It was written about the Jews for example and clarity, that if a common trait is attributed to some people, then Nazism is not far away. For example, write Jews, they are strong in hindsight and try to promote it, as soon as they pay attention to you. And with the Russians, it's possible, isn't it? And so, in every nation people are very different, with different characters, qualities.
Do you have any more questions?
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  beeper 17 February 2022 12: 55
  
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  You persist, aka ALSur, you never "googled" your "question" according to the proverb (after all, many links immediately pop up, even "for those who are in the armored train" in detail and clearly, literally verbatim and with examples, "chewed", as for foreigners and the "Unified State Examination generation"), even for the sake of developing their own horizons?!
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Marzhecki (Sergei) 17 February 2022 13: 20

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Quote: Bahadur
Yes.
Rostislav Ishchenko is a cool expert.
Unlike some of the aircraft carrier sect☺

One lover of aircraft carriers considers it possible to quote on his website one well-known expert in the field of economics, Mikhail Khazin, by the way.
http://worldcrisis.ru/crisis/crisis/wc_tagged_list_t
This is so, information for reflection of all sorts of "jokers"
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Alsur (Alexey) 17 February 2022 13: 40

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You persist, aka ALSur, you never "googled" your "question" according to the proverb (after all, many links immediately pop up, even "for those who are in the armored train" in detail and clearly, literally verbatim and with examples, "chewed", as for foreigners and the "Unified State Examination generation"), even for the sake of developing their own horizons?!

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Ladder mind, wit on the stairs (French l'esprit d'escalier) is a phrase equivalent to the Russian saying "backward mind is strong", meaning that a person finds the right / good answer when the time for it has already been lost. Literally translated: "a worthy answer comes when a person has already left the room on the stairs or landing."

2. V.I. Dal. Proverbs of the Russian people

The man is strong in hindsight.

As you can see, there is no saying anywhere - Russians are strong in hindsight!
There is no need to assign any traits to the whole people.
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  beeper 17 February 2022 15: 00
  
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  Well, aka ALSur, you see how everything is just "googled (Yandex, of course, I love more, but all providers stupidly ban it for me - they strictly forbid it with "red letters")" - You yourself unequivocally confirmed my words, which at first were contradictory, after categorical "denial" of the existence of "such a saying", confirmed, calling it "such a concept"!
  I see that you have already chosen (that’s why I didn’t send your link - I wanted you to choose the option that suits you) for yourself a link from many similar ones, which differ only in spelling, but absolutely NOT distorting the self-ironic meaning
  written by me in a commentary (which caused your "violent reaction" and attempts to "denounce nationalism", and even anti-Semitism).
  Most of the intellectual work by you, aka ALSur, has already been done and now there is a very small, final step - please read the name of the collection, 100% authoritative researcher of our Russian folklore, V.I.-
  
  Proverbs of the Russian people!
  
  Well, at least we figured it out, aka ALSur, but this does not at all eliminate the need to know and study the Russian language better (in its rich semantic variety), along with our folklore!
  Good luck with this (and also in developing the flexibility of logical thinking and the ability to stop and correct in time, without persisting in your own mistakes!), aka ALSur!
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Bahadur (Stanislas) 17 February 2022 15: 57

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Quote: Marzhetsky
Quote: Bahadur
Yes.
Rostislav Ishchenko is a cool expert.
Unlike some of the aircraft carrier sect☺

One lover of aircraft carriers considers it possible to quote on his website one well-known expert in the field of economics, Mikhail Khazin, by the way.
http://worldcrisis.ru/crisis/crisis/wc_tagged_list_t
This is so, information for reflection of all sorts of "jokers"

- With humor, any homers of the simpsons have problems)))))))))
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Alsur (Alexey) 17 February 2022 16: 08

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I didn’t understand much in this stream of pure consciousness, so I ask again, there is still a saying - Russians are strong in hindsight!.
PS This time you don't have to write about my cultural level, I already understood.